Linux-Hardware Digest #354, Volume #14 Fri, 16 Feb 01 09:13:08 EST
Contents:
Should I abandon SCSI? (jtnews)
XWindows on Compaq Presario 1400 Laptop ("Ed")
Can't mount any medium on Plexwriter 121032A (Bora Ugurlu)
Re: Getting a faster IDE controller (Eric P. McCoy)
Re: Networking advise (Eric P. McCoy)
Re: Should I abandon SCSI? ("Ron Reaugh")
Re: Should I abandon SCSI? (Ellen Geertsema)
DVD ("Markus Kiener")
Re: Should I abandon SCSI? (Donovan Rebbechi)
Re: Should I abandon SCSI? (jtnews)
Re: Should I abandon SCSI? ("all-scsi")
Re: Error Message Meaning (Michael Heiming)
ethernet card problem ("jim")
intel 810 chipset ("Marc van Duivenvoorde")
Re: Dual monitors -- how? preconfigured? ("John")
~~ MODEM ALWAYS BUSY~~ ("Justin Durrant")
Re: Should I abandon SCSI? (Tony)
Re: ethernet card problem (Michael Salomon)
Re: Should I abandon SCSI? (Paul Sherwin)
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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 04:25:09 -0500
From: jtnews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Should I abandon SCSI?
I'm at a crossroads now and I need some opinions
on whether or not I should abandon SCSI or
continue to invest in the technology.
I currently have two SCSI legacy devices,
an Exabyte 8200 SCSI tape drive and an HP Scanjet 3c.
Both of these devices used to work with my old Pentium
90Mhz machine with an Adaptec 2940. However, the
90Mhz machine is too slow now and I want to use
a 700Mhz machine. The Adaptec 2940 card will no
longer work in the new system.
I now have 4 new computers with CD-RW drives
and I'm planning on using these drives for archiving
files instead of the Exabyte 8200.
My HP Scanjet 3c is only capable of 600DPI.
I noticed many of the new scanners can do 1200DPI.
I can either dump both the Exabyte and HP Scanjet 3c
and purchase a new scanner or buy an Adaptec 29160
and continue to use my old peripherals. Since an
Adaptec 29160 and a SCSI-3 to SCSI-2 adapter
runs about $179+$23=$201, purchasing a new USB
scanner would cost roughly the same.
What do you think I should do?
I'm leaning towards dumping all my SCSI devices.
I've been looking at the tech specs for USB
and it appears to be more promising than SCSI,
even though with USB 2.0 you only get 60MB/sec instead
of 160MB/sec with SCSI-3.
My only problem is that once I decide to dump
SCSI, I'll have a perfectly good Exabyte 8200
drive and an HP Scanjet 3c I'll have to get rid of.
Will anyone still want one of those? I'd hate to
just throw them away. They both still work fine.
Is there any reason I should stay with SCSI?
If I want to build a RAID system or high
performance NFS file server later on,
can I do that with IDE or USB or is SCSI the
only way to go?
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From: "Ed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: XWindows on Compaq Presario 1400 Laptop
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 10:46:03 +0100
Hi all.
Has Anyone succeed in the setup of the XWindows
in the Compaq Presario 1400 Laptop???
I'm not able to make it work.
The characteristics of the laptop are:
Trident Cyberblade 7 AGP 2X
12,1" TFT XGA (800x600)
Any suggestions???
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From: Bora Ugurlu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Can't mount any medium on Plexwriter 121032A
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 10:52:03 +0100
Hi,
I installed a Plexwriter as a ide-scsi device, and Xcdroast can burn cds
with it.
The problem is, I can't mount any data-CDs with it.
Is that normal?
The error message I get is:
/dev/scd0 has a wrong major or minor device number.
My DVD-ROM device is /dev/scd1 and it can mount w/o problems.
My /etc/fstab looks like this.
/dev/hda1 /C vfat noauto,user 0 0
/dev/hda5 /D vfat user 0 0
/dev/hda6 /boot ext2 defaults 1 2
/dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 2
/dev/hda8 / ext2 defaults 1 1
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
usbdevfs /proc/bus/usb usbdevfs defaults 0 0
devpts /dev/pts devpts defaults 0 0
/dev/scd0 /cdrom auto ro,noauto,user,exec 0 0
/dev/scd1 /dvd auto ro,noauto,user,exec 0 0
/dev/fd0 /floppy auto noauto,user 0 0
When I change 'auto' to 'iso9660' for the /dev/scd0, then I get the
followig error message (translating from german).
mount: Falscher Dateisystemtyp oder ung�ltige Optionen.
M�glicherweise ist auch der 'Superblock' von /dev/scd0 besch�digt,
oder es sind zu viele Dateisysteme gemountet.
--> mount: Wrong filesystem type or illegal options.
Possibly the 'superblock' of /dev/scd0 damaged, or there are too
many mounted filesystems.
Am I doing a dramatic mistake or what?
Bora Ugurlu
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Subject: Re: Getting a faster IDE controller
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric P. McCoy)
Date: 16 Feb 2001 04:58:45 -0500
Henrik Carlqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> If your raid disk doesn't give better performance than a single disk
> something seems to be wrong.
It does. When I manage to get my hard disks up to 6MB/s, I get 9MB/s
on the array. I consider that a reasonable figure.
> However, are you using hdparm as a benchmark? This program is supposed
> to test IDE disks. I'm not sure how it would react on a raid disk.
It doesn't work on md disks. It says something like "open() error:
Success."
> Maybe
> it would be better to do benchmarks like:
> time dd if=/dev/zero of=/path/to/test_file bs=1024k count=100
> time dd if=/path/to/test_file of=/dev/null
That's close to what I did. The hdparm stuff was related purely to
the individual (IDE) devices, not to the md device.
> Please note that this kind of benchmarks might give different results
> depending on how filled the disk is.
Just use /dev/md0 instead of /path/to/test_file. Might cause
different results depending on the disk geometry, but good enough.
--
Eric McCoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"Knowing that a lot of people across the world with Geocities sites
absolutely despise me is about the only thing that can add a positive
spin to this situation." - Something Awful, 1/11/2001
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Subject: Re: Networking advise
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric P. McCoy)
Date: 16 Feb 2001 05:01:19 -0500
"Fred Schroeder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi,
> I would like to set up a network of about 5 to 6 PCs running windows, all
> hooked up to a Linux server, which would act as a gateway to the internet
> for the other machines. My question is, what hardware will I need for this,
> all of the machines now have an ethernet card in them; and what brands
> and/or models would you recommend. This is the first network I have ever
> set up, so am not even certain what I need to buy. I am assuming I will
> need a switch and another ethernet card for the server.
You need a hub or switch and two network cards in the Linux computer.
That's it.
--
Eric McCoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"Knowing that a lot of people across the world with Geocities sites
absolutely despise me is about the only thing that can add a positive
spin to this situation." - Something Awful, 1/11/2001
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From: "Ron Reaugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Re: Should I abandon SCSI?
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 10:14:41 GMT
jtnews wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I'm at a crossroads now and I need some opinions
>on whether or not I should abandon SCSI or
>continue to invest in the technology.
That's a growing question. The latest rumors are that Plextor will not do
its 16X burner in SCSI and IF true then the likely marks the beginning of
the end for SCSI on single user workstations.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ellen Geertsema)
Crossposted-To: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Re: Should I abandon SCSI?
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:16:03 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001 04:25:09 -0500, jtnews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>90Mhz machine is too slow now and I want to use
>a 700Mhz machine. The Adaptec 2940 card will no
>longer work in the new system.
It won't??? Why not?
>I now have 4 new computers with CD-RW drives
>and I'm planning on using these drives for archiving
>files instead of the Exabyte 8200.
CD-RW drives are great for archiving selected files, but nor for
making system backups on a regular basis.
>My HP Scanjet 3c is only capable of 600DPI.
>I noticed many of the new scanners can do 1200DPI.
Still, the quality of the 3C's scans is probably better than that of a
lot of newer 1200dpi scanners. Besides, not too many people regularly
scan at 600dpi or higher...
Ellen
--
Ellen Geertsema "All my life I wanted to be someone;
[EMAIL PROTECTED] I guess I should have been more specific."
-- Jane Wagner
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From: "Markus Kiener" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: DVD
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 12:22:46 +0100
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Could anyone recommend a good program to watch DVD?
I use Mandrake 7.2.
Thanks in advance! Markus
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Crossposted-To: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Re: Should I abandon SCSI?
Date: 16 Feb 2001 11:36:42 GMT
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001 04:25:09 -0500, jtnews wrote:
>I'm at a crossroads now and I need some opinions
>on whether or not I should abandon SCSI or
>continue to invest in the technology.
I often end up at this same crossroads and even for
large RAID machines, it seems that while SCSI is great
in theory, it's too expensive. I'm not clear on why
you don't keep your existing SCSI setup.
[ snip ]
>Is there any reason I should stay with SCSI?
>If I want to build a RAID system or high
>performance NFS file server later on,
>can I do that with IDE or USB or is SCSI the
>only way to go?
You can build software RAIDs with IDE, in fact there are even
hardware RAID cards (for example, rpmfind.net is running on a
3ware IDE RAID). I've evaluated SCSI vs IDE for RAIDs, and while
SCSI would be nice, the cost per storage unit i way too much. For
example, a SCSI machine will not only cost more than the IDE
alternative, it will have about half the storage capacity.
--
Donovan Rebbechi * http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/ *
elflord at panix dot com
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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 06:38:25 -0500
From: jtnews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Re: Should I abandon SCSI?
Ellen Geertsema wrote:
>
> On Fri, 16 Feb 2001 04:25:09 -0500, jtnews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >90Mhz machine is too slow now and I want to use
> >a 700Mhz machine. The Adaptec 2940 card will no
> >longer work in the new system.
>
> It won't??? Why not?
I got one of the early Adaptec 2940's and it
apparently has a really old BIOS chip. I tried
it in a Dell Dimension L700cx and it won't
boot. Do you have an Adaptec 2940 that works
on a fast system (700Mhz or higher)?
Maybe I'll try fiddling with the parameters
on the card.
>
> >I now have 4 new computers with CD-RW drives
> >and I'm planning on using these drives for archiving
> >files instead of the Exabyte 8200.
>
> CD-RW drives are great for archiving selected files, but nor for
> making system backups on a regular basis.
What's wrong with making system backups on CD-RW
disks? It's a lot faster than my 2GB Exabyte 8200
tape drive. Plus I can use compression on a CD-RW
disk because once the data is written it won't
corrupt as easily as a tape can.
>
> >My HP Scanjet 3c is only capable of 600DPI.
> >I noticed many of the new scanners can do 1200DPI.
>
> Still, the quality of the 3C's scans is probably better than that of a
> lot of newer 1200dpi scanners. Besides, not too many people regularly
> scan at 600dpi or higher...
Why would my old 3c be better than an Epson Perfection 1240U?
The Epson Perfection 1240U is spec'ed at 1200x2400dpi 42 bit.
That sounds a lot better than my HP ScanJet 3c.
I'm hoping the colors will be better.
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From: "all-scsi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Re: Should I abandon SCSI?
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:57:27 GMT
I doubt Plextor will stop
the rumor is spreading quickly-, but it seems that it is more a lack of
components on the market than anything else
here is a copy of the message I received from plextor:
"Hello,
I honestly have no idea how these rumors get started, but let me say
categorically that what you heard from whom and when is completely without
justification. Plextor remains as committed to its SCSI product offerings as
much as it is to E-IDE (ATAPI). Even though the market potential for SCSI
devices is less than ten (10%) percent of the overall market, it is still a
niche that Plextor can support quite comfortably. Like yourself, there are
hundreds of thousands of other Plextor customers that share your viewpoint
and we are very sensitive to meeting the future needs of this large
installed base.
Please understand that Plextor America, Plextor Europe and Plextor Japan are
all separate subsidiaries of our parent company Shinano Kenshi of Japan.
Thank you for your interest in Plextor and its products.
Sincerely, Magdalena Wong
Marketing Communications Specialist
Plextor America"
--
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L'essentiel du Scsi en Fran�ais
http://www.all-scsi.com
Forum, dossiers techniques, tests, annonces, faq
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"Ron Reaugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:l47j6.12457$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> jtnews wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >I'm at a crossroads now and I need some opinions
> >on whether or not I should abandon SCSI or
> >continue to invest in the technology.
>
>
> That's a growing question. The latest rumors are that Plextor will not do
> its 16X burner in SCSI and IF true then the likely marks the beginning of
> the end for SCSI on single user workstations.
>
>
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From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Error Message Meaning
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 13:13:03 +0100
Mix wrote:
> Everytime I try to dial out, I get a response "NO CARRIER"! What exactly
>
> does
> it mean?
there is no signal on the line your modem can detect.
> I use "ATDW0,xxxx" to dialout, where xxxx is a telphone
> number.
what's that ATDW0?
I only now of ATDT or ADTP (tone/pulse modulation for dialout). But I don't
use modems
anymore, so my knowledge of the Hayes commandset maybe rusty...
Please read the Modem-HOWTO:
http://www.educ.umu.se/~bjorn/linux/howto/Modem-HOWTO.html
(and on many other places)
>
> I have tried variations on this, and I still get the same error.
> (I am using 56K external modem connetct to a PABX line where 0 has
> to be dialed to get an external line)
Good luck
Michael Heiming
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From: "jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ethernet card problem
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 12:48:08 -0000
Hi there,
A networking/ethernet card config problem:
I have installed Mandrake on a machine which has what Windows called a
"3Com Etherlink 10/100 PCI for Complete Pc Management NIC (3C905C-TX)."
However, on startup Linux identifies it as "3Com 3c905C Tornado" and gives
the error "***INVALID CHECKSUM 002f***".
It identifies the card as being at 0xd800 with IRQ 10, which is what Windows
thought too.
The driver installed is 3c59x.c and the card is installed (term?) as eth0.
When I try to use dhcpc to configure networking, it times out. I take it
this is due to the ethernet card not working - is this correct?
If so, what do I need to do to get it working? Bear in mind that I don't
know anything about Linux - for example, which files control the
configuration of the card.
Is there a HOWTO/troubleshooting guide for this type of thing?
Thanks.
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From: "Marc van Duivenvoorde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: intel 810 chipset
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 13:58:08 +0100
I have a dell optiplex gx 100 system with a intel 810 chipset for video. I'm
running mandrake 7.1 and I have a weird problem.
After editing the XFconfig file myself because mandrake didn't detect the
card at all I have a fine running X system when using the standard kernel
2.2.15. I want to use the 2.4.1 kernel, but when boot that one X starts
whining that it doesn't know the intel chipset while I do have the right
drivers.
Thanks a lot.
Marc
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From: "John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dual monitors -- how? preconfigured?
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 13:16:10 GMT
"Markus Gaugusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I'm buying a kick-butt development machine and I want dual monitors.
Will
> > the X server in RedHat 7 do dual monitors? What configuration is
required?
> XFree86 4.0 supports Xinerama (=dual head support),
Does that mean you can drag windows between monitors?
Thanks,
John
> don't know what's
> shipped with redhat, I only use SuSE ;-)
> > Can I buy a preconfigured system from someone like Dell that has 2
monitors?
> it depends on the graphics card ...
> Look at the xfree86 homepage or at the card manufacturers homepage (some
> do offer linux drivers)
>
> --
> Markus Gaugusch
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From: "Justin Durrant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ~~ MODEM ALWAYS BUSY~~
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 07:37:29 -0600
Hello Iam using a Diamond 56i SP Modem. Modem is IRQ5 on COM3.
No matter what setserial or dev command i use i get the modem is always
busy???
I checked /etc/inetab and nothing is using or taking up the modem!
What is the difference between using the ttys and cua? Which is better and
why?
Any help would be apreciated!!!
Justin
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From: Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Re: Should I abandon SCSI?
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 13:53:25 GMT
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jtnews wrote:
> I'm at a crossroads now and I need some opinions
>
> 90Mhz machine with an Adaptec 2940. However, the
> 90Mhz machine is too slow now and I want to use
> a 700Mhz machine. The Adaptec 2940 card will no
> longer work in the new system.
I do not agree, I'm using the Adaptec 2940 in a Pentium III
800Mhz connected to a CD-ROM, CD-RW, a Zip 250 and
an HP Scanjet 3c, all working perfectly. BTW until recently
I used to hang two SCSI2 drives from the same card, I since
switched to an IBM EIDE.
Why do you think it wont work?, is it not supported in Linux?.
Also don't give up the Scanjet 3c, it's a great scanner (one
of the VERY few things that HP managed to do well).
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<blockquote TYPE=CITE>I'm at a crossroads now and I need some opinions</blockquote>
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<br>90Mhz machine with an Adaptec 2940. However, the
<br>90Mhz machine is too slow now and I want to use
<br>a 700Mhz machine. The Adaptec 2940 card will no
<br>longer work in the new system.</blockquote>
I do not agree, I'm using the Adaptec 2940 in a Pentium III
<br>800Mhz connected to a CD-ROM, CD-RW, a Zip 250 and
<br>an HP Scanjet 3c, all working perfectly. BTW until recently
<br>I used to hang two SCSI2 drives from the same card, I since
<br>switched to an IBM EIDE.
<p>Why do you think it wont work?, is it not supported in Linux?.
<p>Also don't give up the Scanjet 3c, it's a great scanner (one
<br>of the VERY few things that HP managed to do well).
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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 13:54:49 +0000
From: Michael Salomon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ethernet card problem
visit the 3com site. ( www.3com.com)
(can't remeber exact url of driver, but search for 3c90x +linux +driver )
they have a driver ( source and compiled module ) specifically for that card.
will be testing it myself a bit later.
m.
jim wrote:
>
> Hi there,
>
> A networking/ethernet card config problem:
>
> I have installed Mandrake on a machine which has what Windows called a
> "3Com Etherlink 10/100 PCI for Complete Pc Management NIC (3C905C-TX)."
> However, on startup Linux identifies it as "3Com 3c905C Tornado" and gives
> the error "***INVALID CHECKSUM 002f***".
> It identifies the card as being at 0xd800 with IRQ 10, which is what Windows
> thought too.
> The driver installed is 3c59x.c and the card is installed (term?) as eth0.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Sherwin)
Crossposted-To: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Re: Should I abandon SCSI?
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 13:57:33 GMT
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001 06:38:25 -0500, jtnews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Ellen Geertsema wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 16 Feb 2001 04:25:09 -0500, jtnews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >90Mhz machine is too slow now and I want to use
>> >a 700Mhz machine. The Adaptec 2940 card will no
>> >longer work in the new system.
>>
>> It won't??? Why not?
>
>I got one of the early Adaptec 2940's and it
>apparently has a really old BIOS chip. I tried
>it in a Dell Dimension L700cx and it won't
>boot. Do you have an Adaptec 2940 that works
>on a fast system (700Mhz or higher)?
>Maybe I'll try fiddling with the parameters
>on the card.
>
The CPU clock speed shouldn't be an issue. PCI is PCI. If you're
having trouble it's most likely the BIOS setup or possibly the BIOS on
the 2940. I'd investigate further.
HTH, Paul
Paul Sherwin Consulting 22 Monmouth Road, Oxford OX1 4TD, UK
Phone +44 (0)1865 721438 http://www.psherwin.strayduck.com
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