Linux-Hardware Digest #380, Volume #14 Wed, 21 Feb 01 16:13:05 EST
Contents:
DLT1 under Redhat 6.2 (Bob Jones)
Re: upgrading RPM!! ("Rex Dieter")
hard drive overheat (John Hunter)
Re: Cheap PCI sound card supported by Linux and OS/2? (paul marwick)
Re: Replicate/Clone RH6.2 Linux (Zen Sorcerer)
Re: linux 2.4.1 and pppd ("Richard M. Denney")
Re: ASUS vs ABit motherboards ("Michael")
RAID - Is ICP Vortex the best? (Kiira Triea)
[OT] Was (Re: ASUS vs ABit motherboards) (Lee Webb)
Re: Ker-Clunk on Western Digital Drive - Normal for Linux? (Steven Conway)
Re: Ker-Clunk on Western Digital Drive - Normal for Linux? (Steven Conway)
Azza Motherboards - Reputation & Reliability? (Seve)
apm with linux 2.4.0; Suspends with switch, not with timer ("Richard M. Denney")
Trouble connecting SCSI AIT drive (Matt Clay)
Re: linux 2.4.1 and pppd ("Larry Sonderling")
redhat 7 scsi issues (SkuMM)
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From: Bob Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: DLT1 under Redhat 6.2
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 11:03:42 -0600
Ok, due to a misshipment I have available to me an internal DLT1 drive
from Dell. I want to put this in our Dell Poweredge 2400 streaming
media server (Real 7) running RedHat 6.2. According to the Redhat site
DLT1 drives only work under RedHat 7, but due to some issues with 7 we'd
rather not upgrade. Also, Real doesn't recommend going to the 2.4
kernel yet since it hasn't been tested.
So, finally to waht I'm after. Has anyone here gotten a DLT1 drive to
work under RedHat 6.2 and if so how did you go about doing it? Thanks
in advance for the help.
--
Bob Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"The one true Bob."
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From: "Rex Dieter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: upgrading RPM!!
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 11:28:42 -0600
"Peter B. Steiger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:03:37 GMT, Hatem sez:
> >I have an old version of RPM version 3, and need to upgrade it to 4..!!
> >the funny thing is that the new version(4) can not be extracted because
it
> >needs a newer version of RPM,
FYI,
The newest versions of both RPM v3 and RPM v4 are forward AND backward
compatible.
In short, the recommended (and easiest) path is to upgrade to the latest RPM
v3.
--
Rex Dieter
Computer System Administrator
Mathematics and Statistics
University of Nebraska Lincoln
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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.solaris
Subject: hard drive overheat
From: John Hunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 21 Feb 2001 12:32:26 -0600
I have a Quantum external SCSI hard drive that has failed on a
Sparc-Solaris 5.7 system. I came in and the fan had burned out so I
suspect the drive overheated. It's been a couple of weeks since I
last backed it up (I know, I know...) and there is some data I would
like to recover.
The system that it was on booted from this drive, and I am hoping that
there are some partitions that are still good which I can mount it
from another system. We have some linux boxes up and another
Sparc-Solaris 5.7 up which I can use to try and recover some of the
data. I don't really know how to go about it, though.
Can anyone offer some advice? Is there any hope? If I mount it on a
linux box, what fs type should I use in /etc/fstab? Should I try and
dump the data with dd, or fsck the drive?
Please advise. Thanks,
John Hunter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (paul marwick)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.multimedia
Subject: Re: Cheap PCI sound card supported by Linux and OS/2?
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:42:51 +0000
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Shane Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Subject line says it all.
>
> Any suggestions?
I have two cheap PCI based cards here. One is an ESS Solo 1, the other
is based on the Crystal 4614. Both are supported by OS/2 and Linux. Of
the two, I think the results from the ESS based card are somewhat
better, but the ESS drivers don't support WinOS2, whereas the Crystal
ones do. For the ESS, you'll need the Alsa drivers under Linux.
paul.
--
paul marwick - Chipping Norton, Oxfordshire, UK
remove the numbers for e-mail
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From: Zen Sorcerer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Replicate/Clone RH6.2 Linux
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 19:30:05 -0000
You can do a kickstart from CD-ROM or a local network(harddrive).
Installing from a local network is actually the most common method of
installation.
http://www.redhat.com/support/manuals/RHL-6.2-Manual/ref-guide/
Just scroll all the way down to section:
III. Appendixes/F. Kickstart Installations
It's very easy...
Zen
Steven Conway wrote:
>
> I have painstakingly set up old OS/2 Warp (urgh) workstation with
> RedHat 6.2.
>
> 1) I have correctly configured all of the devices by downloading
> patches, recompiling, etc.
>
> 2) Updated and changed the kernel.
>
> 3) Updated the numerous packages with the latest patches (up2date)
> RPMS & .tar.gz).
>
> 4) Installed, and tested numerous other third party software packages.
>
> 5) tested, tweeked and finally have the computer working exactly how I
> want it to.
>
> I now need to replicate/clone this workstation to 25 IDENTICAL
> workstations that are all connected over a Private internal network.
>
> I was told to look at RedHats Kickstart but I am not sure if this
> approach is the best way to do this as it assumes you are installing
> off of a CD and not off of an existing system. Am I correct in this
> assumption? Can I even do what I am trying to do.
>
>
>
> Steven Conway
>
--
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http://www.help.com/
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 01:41:21 -0600
From: "Richard M. Denney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: linux 2.4.1 and pppd
Larry Sonderling wrote:
> I have recently upgraded from kernel 2.2.16 to 2.4.1 and I when I try to
> connect to my ISP pppd dies with a syslog message of "ioctl(PPPIOCGFLAGS)
> invalid arguement" after successfully connecting. This never occurred under
> 2.2.16 and I cannot find a clue in the documentation that I have. i am
> using pppd 2.1.13. Is there a newer version of pppd that I should use with
> kernel 2.4.1 or have I missed something obvious?
>
> thanks,
>
> Larry
I got ppp-2.4.0b2-2.rpm from RedHat site and am using it successfully with with
kernel.org's 2.4.0 kernel compiled for my RH7 system.
Rick
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From: "Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ASUS vs ABit motherboards
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 13:40:41 -0600
ASUS warranty is three years.
ABIT warranty is one year.
"Jamie Peppers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:vLGk6.48066$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Go with Asus I have the Abit and ahve plenty of problems!
> "Fred Marsico" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I am using the Asus A7Pro with Athlon 1.2 GHZ running Red Hat 7. All
> > devices were auto detected, only I had to key in the sync rates for the
> > bargain monitor and the Palit-Daytona video card that uses the SiS 300
> > chipset. Pretty hefty video for a server, but the people that will take
> > over the daily administator duties are Windoze only users, so I had to
> > make everything GUI based.
> >
> > Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
> >
> > > I use ASUS boards on Intel and haven't tried the AMD yet but I have
been
> > > very happy with the Asus boards.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Brett I. Holcomb
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Microsoft MVP
> > > AKA Grunt<><
> > >
> > >
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:fMRj6.467$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> I'm in the process of shopping around to upgrade my system. I
currently
> > >
> > > have a
> > >
> > >> P-120 with an ATI Mach64 card, a couple of IDE drives, Creative Labs
8x
> CD
> > >
> > > and
> > >
> > >> a Soundblaster card (don't remember what but it's PnP/PCI).
> > >>
> > >> I want to upgrade to an Athlon 1GHz and 512MB of memory. I'm trying
to
> > >
> > > figure
> > >
> > >> out if I should go with an ASUS or an ABit board. I'm also going to
get
> a
> > >> Thunderbird CPU. I see that there have been a flurry of newer boards
> from
> > >
> > > ASUS
> > >
> > >> and ABit. Has anyone purchased those noards? What type of problems
(if
> > >
> > > any)
> > >
> > >> did you have?
> > >>
> > >> I'm also going to buy an IBM Deskstar 45 or 70GB drive. In certain
> posts
> > >
> > > I've
> > >
> > >> seen that the drive can cause a problem. If it matters any, I plan on
> > >> installing Mandrake 7.2.
> > >>
> > >> Will I be able to keep some of the hardware from the old system? What
> type
> > >
> > > of
> > >
> > >> hardware will I be able to keep?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >>
> > >> L
> >
>
>
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From: Kiira Triea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RAID - Is ICP Vortex the best?
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 20:02:13 GMT
Hi,
I need to build a big ass database server for my company and I'm
thinking of using the ICP Vortex 64 bit controller, something like the
GDT 8623RZ . Looking at everything it really seems to be the best
choice for Linux.
Anyone have any terrible experiences with these using a recent kernel
(2.2.16)?
thanks!
Kiira
Systems Analyst - BSAS, Inc.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lee Webb)
Subject: [OT] Was (Re: ASUS vs ABit motherboards)
Date: 21 Feb 2001 19:59:11 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 20 Feb 2001 08:54:16 GMT, Kenneth R�rvik wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lee Webb) wrote in
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>>>Abit seems to have a slight advantage over Abit in terms of performance
>> ^^^^ ^^^^
>
>>I think you meant to say "Abit seems to have a slight advantage over
>>Asus in terms of performance too."
>>(Which it does, but it *is* slight - hence my choice of the Asus A7V.)
>
>D'oh! I've got to stop staying up late on sundays :)
Nah! The "staying up late on Sundays" isn't a problem for me:
It's the "getting up early for work on Mondays" that I want to stop ;-)
Lee.
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From: Steven Conway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ker-Clunk on Western Digital Drive - Normal for Linux?
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 15:36:31 -0500
On Wed, 21 Feb 2001 05:52:07 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lewis)
wrote:
>Folks,
>
>I know that's a real technical term (ker-clunk, that is), but that is
>what I am hearing from my drive.
>
>It is a WD400BB, a 40GB IDE drive from Western Digital. This is my
>fifth Western Digital drive (the other 4 are still in service with no
>problems), and I have been very impressed and happy with their quality
>(thus far).
>
I my experience with WD Drives is that the "Ker-clunk" as you put it
is the first sign that the drive is about to fail. Do a fsck.ext2 -F
repeatedly on the drive/partiotion to see if you can replicate the
Ker-clunk (BACK UP FIRST). I have dealt with a lot of drives, WD the
most because of their excellent RMA service. Yes they do seem to fail
more than other drives but they offer 3 Year warranties on the drives
and they have always replaced the drives after they have gone bad...
Steven conway
>However, occasionally I will hear a 'ker-clunk' sound from the drive.
>And after I have thought about it, I seem to only hear it when using
>Linux.
>
>The only thing I can think of is that I put my /boot partition near
>the front of the drive, and the rest of the linux files are at the
>back of the drive, and the sound I get is when it goes back and forth.
>(I did this because I was installing Redhat v6.2, and could not get
>LILO to work otherwise, as the main partition was past the 1024 cyl.)
>
>Is this normal? I have never had this happen before, but then again,
>I never have had to split the /boot and / partitions for linux. Does
>the system have to occasionally go back to the /boot drive, and thus
>causing this problem?
>
>Anybody else had this experience? If you have, has it only been in
>linux with this configuration, or has it been with Windows 9X., NT,
>etc.?
>
>I've called WDC and asked them about this, and they say the problem
>must be in the controller, the cable, or the power supply (I think he
>was reading off the web site!) To be fair, I did run extended
>diagnostics on the drive, and it reports ok.
>
>I've got maybe a week to take it back (bought it 1/28/01), then I'd
>have to RMA it with WDC.
>
>Any suggestions on what's going on or what I should do?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>RJ
>
>
>---------------------------------------------------
>The Lewis's
>
>Remove "NoSpam_" from email address if replying by email.
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From: Steven Conway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ker-Clunk on Western Digital Drive - Normal for Linux?
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 15:36:35 -0500
On Wed, 21 Feb 2001 05:52:07 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lewis)
wrote:
>Folks,
>
>I know that's a real technical term (ker-clunk, that is), but that is
>what I am hearing from my drive.
>
It may not be the correct technical term, but anyone who has heard
that Ker-clunk (WD) knows what you are describing.
Steven
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From: Seve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Azza Motherboards - Reputation & Reliability?
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 12:36:28 -0800
Have any of you used Azza motherboards? How are they?
Seve
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 02:38:01 -0600
From: "Richard M. Denney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: apm with linux 2.4.0; Suspends with switch, not with timer
I am running a RH 7 system with updated kernel.org 2.4.0 kernel and apmd
version -3Ob2-2 (from RedHat). The BIOS is APM compliant and with APM
configured in the kernel, my system suspends with the CPU power key
(touch it, it suspends or awakens; hold down 4 seconds and it powers on
or off). So far, so good. The problem is, even though the BIOS (in Setup
during boottime) is set to power down after 30 minutes, the computer
under linux doesn't do this. A ps ax | grep apm shows:
442 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/apmd -p 10 -w 5 -W -P
/etc/sysconfig/apm-sc.
I have looked through the apmd manual, but find it hard to understand.
Some things definitely do not seem to work on my system. For example,
the manual says that "apm -n" or "apm --noignore" should tell the system
to carry out apm tasks when signaled by the system even when the system
is AC power. When I give this command, I get:
usage: apm [-vmsSin] [--verbose] [--minutes] [--suspend] [--standby] --
suggesting that "apm -n" is not a valid command, despite the message.
(In fact, the apmd manual says this is the default mode.)
I get the same usage: apm message when I give the command:
apm -i.
On the other hand, "apm -s" suspends the system (just like touching the
power button on the cpu), as it should.
The command "apm" gives the message:
AC on-line, no battery
===========
Obviously I am missing something. Can anyone point me in the right
direction?
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From: Matt Clay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Trouble connecting SCSI AIT drive
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 14:21:47 -0600
I'm having trouble connecting an externally mounted Seagate
Sidewinder-50 AIT drive to a RH 7.0 box. The machine is using an Adaptec
29160N SCSI controller card and has all the latest RH updates.
I've heard that there may be some incompatibilities between the 29160
card and the Sidewinder-50 and was wondering if anyone had found
anything similar?
The problem is that when the external AIT drive is connected to the Dell
workstation, and I try to boot into Linux, I get the following series of
errors during the Linux boot process right after Linux detects the SCSI
host
card and hard drive:
=========
detected scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id0, lun0
SCSI : aborting command due to timeout : pid2, scsi0, channel 0, id1,
lun0
Test Unit Ready 00 00 00 00 00
SCSI host 0 abort (pid2) timed out - resetting
SCSI bus is being reset for host 0, channel 0
(these two lines repeat 3 more times)
Probably an unrecoverable SCSI bus or device hang
(scsi:0:0:1:0) Parity error during Message-In phase
==========
At this point the computer simply hangs.
The Adaptec BIOS is configured for parity-checking, host SCSI ID 7, hard
drive
ID 0, and AIT ID 1. I have also tried setting the AIT drive to ID 2
with no
better results. I have had some results, however, disabling parity
checking
at the BIOS level. If I do this, Linux boots but I can't write to the
tape
drive. I can erase it by "mt -f /dev/nst0 erase" but if I try to write
to it
by "tar -cvf /dev/nst0 /root" then the system hangs and the error
terminal
reports the following:
==========
aborting command due to timeout pid 4595, scsi0, channel0, id0, lun0
Write (10) 00 02 14 39 08 00 00 04 00
==========
This then repeats approximately 5 times then stops. If I turn off the
AIT
drive, it is external so I can turn it on and off=20 separately from the
main
system, then the computer unfreezes and returns to normal operation.
I have checked and the jumper that controls parity checking is not set
to
disable, aka parity checking should be enabled on the drive.
One other piece of information: The Adaptec BIOS displays different
speeds for
the AIT drive depending on whether parity checking is turned on or off.
During
boot-up, it displays what devices it has found and their speed. It shows
the
Hard Drive with speed 160 (the maximum). Withparity checking on, it
displays a
speed of 10.0 for the AIT drive, but a speed of ASYN (asynchronous) when
parity checking is disabled.
Thank you for your help,
Matt
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Reply-To: "Larry Sonderling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Larry Sonderling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux 2.4.1 and pppd
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 20:41:10 GMT
Thanks to all who answered my question, and apologies for posting in the
wrong newsgroup - I meant to post in comp.os.linux.questions. The thunk
you hear was me not having thought to read the Changes doc. Thank you all
again.
Larry
"Daryl Fonseca-Holt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> /usr/src/linux-2.4.0/Documentation/Changes says you have to have a least
> version 2.4.0 of pppd.
>
> You can get the source at ftp://linuxcare.com.au/pub/ppp/. Don't know
about an
> RPM, never use them.
>
> HTH,
> Wyatt
>
> On Wed, 21 Feb 2001 01:50:43 GMT, Larry Sonderling
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >I have recently upgraded from kernel 2.2.16 to 2.4.1 and I when I try to
> >connect to my ISP pppd dies with a syslog message of "ioctl(PPPIOCGFLAGS)
> >invalid arguement" after successfully connecting. This never occurred
under
> >2.2.16 and I cannot find a clue in the documentation that I have. i am
> >using pppd 2.1.13. Is there a newer version of pppd that I should use
with
> >kernel 2.4.1 or have I missed something obvious?
> >
> >thanks,
> >
> >Larry
> >
> >
> >
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (SkuMM)
Subject: redhat 7 scsi issues
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 21:05:07 GMT
Ok I can't seem to get the scsi adapter to take in a new redhat 7.1
installation...
I get the following errors...
The card is an adaptec 29160
the kernel has the aic7xxx built into it.
I have 1 VXA tape backup robot connected to it (properly terminated)
aborting command due to timeout: pid 0 scsi 0 channel 0 id 0 lun 0
scsi bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0 trying harder
Inquirt 00 00 00 ff 00 scsi host 0 abort (pid 0) timed out. resetting
I need help here. I neither need to replace the card or get this
riunning. If i should replace the card, what should I replace it with?
Mike.
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