Linux-Hardware Digest #405, Volume #14 Mon, 26 Feb 01 14:13:09 EST
Contents:
Re: Best RAID controller for Linux (Vincent Fox)
Need LOTS of disks: Promise ATA RAID?? (John Rowe)
FastTrak100 - accessing and booting from RAID 0 array (iQXth)
TDK VeloCD in RH6.1 (Jason Noble)
PBX vs. Linux (Young4ert)
hisax ("mben123")
Re: phoneline network card supported? (Michael Meissner)
Re: Epson question (Wolfgang Fritz)
Re: hisax-problem (Wolfgang Fritz)
Re: phoneline network card supported? (Michael Meissner)
Re: Safe to use UDMA? ("Michael E. McColm")
Re: lilo -or- installing to a Mylex controller ("Steve Wolfe")
Re: lilo -or- installing to a Mylex controller ("Steve Wolfe")
Re: I search the Linux-Driver for the EUMEX404-PC ("Matthias Reis")
DLink DFE-530TX+ NIC OK with Linux ? (Sean)
Re: Need LOTS of disks: Promise ATA RAID?? (Jason Clifford)
Re: Need LOTS of disks: Promise ATA RAID?? ("C. Newport")
Re: Need LOTS of disks: Promise ATA RAID?? (Joshua Baker-LePain)
Re: Linux IDE RAID Cards ("Major Dondo")
Re: Problems with sound on Gigabyte GA-7ZX Motherboard (jwk)
Re: Need LOTS of disks: Promise ATA RAID?? (Paul Martin)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vincent Fox)
Crossposted-To: linux.dev.raid
Subject: Re: Best RAID controller for Linux
Date: 26 Feb 2001 16:35:36 GMT
In <97bsr5$40k$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Juergen Sauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
*snip*
I've started using the 3Ware IDE RAID controller and been
very impressed with it so far. Using a pair of IBM 75GXP drives
in mirroring mode, disk reads are very fast. The mirroring
works as advertised. I can "fail" a drive by unplugging it
and it keeps running. Rebuilding onto the failed drive
to return to full mirroring functionality can be done while
the system is running. Sweet.
Only weird thing I note is that if I put my Tekram D390U3W card
in with a Seagate X15 drive it seems I cannot access it. I think
the 3Ware and the Tekram card conflict.
--
"Who needs horror movies when we have Microsoft"?
-- Christine Comaford, PC Week, 27/9/95
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From: John Rowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Need LOTS of disks: Promise ATA RAID??
Date: 26 Feb 2001 16:54:09 +0000
A user needs at least 300GB of disk space and that's after formatting,
file system overhead, etc. So I'm reckoning I need at least 6 IBM 60GB
disks and I would prefer to have only one per channel, ie no hard
disks running as slaves. So I could use a little help!
* If I just use three ordinary ATA-100 cards will that cause me any
problems? (Performance, boot, etc.)
* Will I gain much by using Promise ATA RAID cards? Is there better
performance, does it reduce the number of IRQs I'm using? Are
there boot problems if I try to make a RAID device my boot device?
* Anything else I haven't thought if?
Thanks for taking the trouble.
John
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From: iQXth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: FastTrak100 - accessing and booting from RAID 0 array
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 17:07:28 GMT
OK, here is how my Promise FastTrak100 is setup:
Channel 1 master/slave has two 45GB drives striped to form an array
with geometry of 11213/255/63.
Channel 2 master has a 28GB drive by itself to form a single-disk span
array with geometry of 3467/255/63.
When installing Red Hat Linux 7.0, I can switch over to the command
prompt and do a 'cat /proc/pci' and get some info on the Promise
controller. Here is a snippet of the info:
0x9400
0x9800
0x9c00
0xa000
0xa400
With this info, I can use the boot parameter 'ide#=#x####,#x####' and
get access to individual drives only. So, when I go to install Red Hat
Linux 7.0, I use:
expert ide2=0x9400,9x9802 ide3=0x9c00,0xa002
Using this, it shows that I have access to 3 drives with geometry
5606/255/63, 5606/255/63, and 3467/255/63. The first two are obviously
members of the striped array and the third is the lone 28GB drive.
I can install to the 28GB drive and Red Hat'll install, boot, and run
just fine. But this is not how I originally wanted to do it, since the
28GB drive is a removable drive, I want Linux on the array. I hesitate
to install to one of the drives in the array because I have this
feeling that it'll corrupt the data that is already there since it is
not reporting the geometry correctly.
Ideally, I want to be able to access and install to the array using
boot parameters. The result of this should be access to a drive of
geometry 11213/255/63.
Does anyone know how to do this? Could the '0xa400' be part of the
solution? That number was not used during the original boot parameter
to access the individual drives.
If you need more info please ask.
--- iQXth ---
Please respond to this thread
or post with 'ulvfboqj' in the
subject to get my attention.
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From: Jason Noble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: TDK VeloCD in RH6.1
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 17:03:05 GMT
I have been trying to get my TDK VeloCD burner working under RedHat 6.1
for some time now with no luck. It is an IDE drive and therefore needs
the ide-scsi driver. I am using the kernel that shipped with RH6.1. Do
I need to compile a new kernel? I have edited my lilo.conf and
conf.modules to look as follows:
lilo.conf
===========================
boot = /dev/hda
timeout = 50
prompt
default = WindowsME
vga = normal
read-only
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
image = /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.12-20
label = linux
initrd = /boot/initrd-2.2.12-20.img
append = "hdb=ide-scsi"
root = /dev/hda6
other = /dev/hda1
label = WindowsME
conf.modules
============================
options ide-cd ignore=hdb
pre-install sg modprobe ide-scsi
pre-install sr_mod modprobe ide-scsi
pre-install ide-scsi modprobe ide-cd
alias sound es1370
alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc
Thanks,
Jason Noble
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From: Young4ert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PBX vs. Linux
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 16:55:31 GMT
Hi,
I have an old 386-20 system, equipped with three modems, which is currently
connected to the Internet through a switch on a T-1 line acts as a FAX
server as well as a Telephone Answering Machine (TAD). I also have several
internet equipment, i.e. webTV, Aplio/Phone, Iopener, Dreamcast machine
etc. that I want them go online by means of my Linux machine as a dialup
router through a small PBX (hybrid) switch, acting as a bridge, without
incuring any telephone line. Does anyone know if this is doable? Can any
recommend an inexpensive small PBX (hybrid) switch that I can find in the
US, particularly in the greater Atlanta, GA area? I suppose a digital PBX
switch is out of question since it does not support an analog modem
connection, right?
TIA.
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From: "mben123" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: hisax
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 18:19:42 +0100
Von: "MBen123" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Betreff: HiSax Modul unter Suse 6.4
Datum: Sonntag, 25. Februar 2001 22:18
Hallo,
kann mir jemand sagen, wieso ich unter Suse Linux 6.4 (Kernel 2.2.14) im
Yast bei HiSax kein Modul angeben kann? Im Handbuch ist diese Funktion zwar
beschrieben und sogar abgebildet, aber bei mir steht dies nicht zur
verf�gung! Brauch es wegen der eumex anlage! Kann mnir jemand helfen??????
mfg
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: phoneline network card supported?
From: Michael Meissner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 26 Feb 2001 12:19:50 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows) writes:
> On Sat, 24 Feb 2001 21:06:54 GMT, . piet staggered into the Black Sun
> and said:
> >i am planning on buying 10 mb phoneline network cards? which cards are
> >supported by linux?
>
> Why? Real 10bT Ethernet cards have gotten dirt-cheap; I picked a couple
> of 3c509B cards for free 6 months ago. You can pick up NE2000 or
> rtl8139 cards for about $10--depending on how much Cat5 you string, and
> whether you do the crimping yourself, the cabling could cost more than
> the net cards!
I can imagine that stringing new wires is a problem, either due to order of the
building owner, and/or the spouse/girlfriend/boyfriend :-). Or possibly
general klutziness on the part of the installer. Given that phoneline cards
are somewhat pricey compared to normal ethernet cards, I suspect price of the
cards is not an issue. Price of an electrician stringing wire would be. When
I had an electrician string wires to 2 bedrooms and the living room, the cost
was $1,600 (that probably included running cables for the satellite dish to 2
tvs at the same time).
> If you go the Ethernet route in the first place and string Cat5, you'll
> spare yourself some pain when you decide to upgrade to 100bT.
If the only reason you are networking is to share an outside network
connection, it won't matter whether you upgrade to 100bT (unless you maybe have
an OC3 connection to your house, in which case the cost of stringing new wires
is small potatoes).
--
Michael Meissner, Red Hat, Inc. (GCC group)
PMB 198, 174 Littleton Road #3, Westford, Massachusetts 01886, USA
Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: +1 978-486-9304
Non-work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] fax: +1 978-692-4482
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From: Wolfgang Fritz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Epson question
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 17:59:35 +0100
Gary I Kahn wrote:
>
> John--
>
> You said that you needed to update to kernel 2.2.18 to get your Epson 636U
> scanner working smoothly. Would you elaborate, please? I'm asking because
> I've just ordered a rebuilt 610U, and I want to be prepared for it when it
> arrives. My Mandrake 7.2 distribution came with a heavily patched 2.2.17
> kernel, and it appears that it'll support the USB scanner. /proc/bus/usb/
> seems to have valid USB port information, and the 'usbcore.o' and
> 'scanner.o' modules came pre-compiled with the distribution. Is there
> something that you recommend I watch out for?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Gary
Hi,
Kernels < 2.2.18 needed a special USB patch to work properly. Kernel
2.2.18 has this patch included. BTW: my scanner is an Epson Perfection
1200U. Works great.
Wolfgang
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From: Wolfgang Fritz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: hisax-problem
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 18:02:38 +0100
mben123 wrote:
>
> Von: "MBen123" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Betreff: HiSax Modul unter Suse 6.4
> Datum: Sonntag, 25. Februar 2001 22:18
>
> Hallo,
>
> kann mir jemand sagen, wieso ich unter Suse Linux 6.4 (Kernel 2.2.14) im
> Yast bei HiSax kein Modul angeben kann? Im Handbuch ist diese Funktion zwar
> beschrieben und sogar abgebildet, aber bei mir steht dies nicht zur
> verf�gung! Brauch es wegen der eumex anlage! Kann mnir jemand helfen??????
>
Hallo,
ich kann Dir zwar Deine Frage nicht beantworten, weiss aber, wo die
Experten sitzen:
de.alt.comm.isdn4linux
> mfg
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dito,
Wolfgang
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: phoneline network card supported?
From: Michael Meissner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 26 Feb 2001 12:32:37 -0500
Michael Meissner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> If the only reason you are networking is to share an outside network
> connection, it won't matter whether you upgrade to 100bT (unless you maybe have
> an OC3 connection to your house, in which case the cost of stringing new wires
> is small potatoes).
I forgot to mention that wireless might be the solution instead of using
existing phones. Going to the 802.11 standard is somewhat more expensive than
the phoneline cards (about $400-600 to connect 2 computers). I'm currently
using a Orinocco card on my laptop to post this message. The following link
talks about the various wireless options:
http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Wireless.html
--
Michael Meissner, Red Hat, Inc. (GCC group)
PMB 198, 174 Littleton Road #3, Westford, Massachusetts 01886, USA
Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: +1 978-486-9304
Non-work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] fax: +1 978-692-4482
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From: "Michael E. McColm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Safe to use UDMA?
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 18:01:07 GMT
Eric P. McCoy wrote:
> "Michael E. McColm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>
>> I recently purchased a hard drive and would like to get the best
performance
>> from it that I safely can. The hard drive is a Western Digital
>> WD200BB and is installed as primary/master (/dev/hda) on my Soyo
>> SY-5EHM (rev. 1.3) mainboard. When I installed the drive I used the
>> included 'EZ-Install' program to set the drive to UDMA/33 mode (the
>> fastest mode supported by the mainboard). When I run `hdparm -i
/dev/hda`,
>> hdparm reports that dma is not enabled (I thought it would be
>> with CONFIG_IDEDMA_AUTO=y).
>
>
> I assume you have the proper chipset selected in your kernel? A lot of
> chipsets will seem to work with the incorrect driver selected, but will
> not use all the features or not use them properly.
The specifications list 'ETEQ 82C6638AT/6629 AGP' as the chipset,but I
have read that this is actually a re-branded Via Apollo MVP3 chipset. My
kernel configuration includes CONFIG_BLK_DEV_VIA82C586=y.
> Do you get any messages about ide0 resets and DMA being disabled? Boot
> your system in single-user mode (to reduce the chances of Bad Things
> happening), turn on DMA, and run hdparm's tests. Then use dmesg
> to check for DMA being disabled. If that happens, you probably can't
> use DMA, even if both your hard drive and chipset claim to support
> it. You can force the IDE driver to keep turning DMA back on, but
> that may cause nasty data corruption.
I did as you suggested and no messages appeared in the dmesg output.
> I'm also suspicious about the "EZ-Install" program. The drive should
be able to automatically put itself in the correct mode depending on
> what the BIOS/OS tells it to do.
> > be able to automatically put itself in the correct mode depending
> on what the BIOS/OS tells it to do.
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From: "Steve Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: lilo -or- installing to a Mylex controller
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 10:42:39 -0700
> First, I haven't had any experience with the 170, but I am running a 250,
> which should be similar, as the primary controller under RH6.2 and booting
> off the RAID 5 logical drive. Next, the driver in question is not a SCSI
> driver, but a BLOCK driver; there is a difference.
Right.
> Also, if you're booting
> off a logical RAID drive, you must set up the logical drive before you try
> to install and OS.
Right.
> I don't remember exactly what I did to get it to recognize the driver,
but
> I seem to remember that I had to use the 'custom' install and tell the
install
> that the primary controller was the a Mylex RAID controller. If you
haven't
> used the 'custom' install, try that otherwise ???. I know these
controllers
> are used quite a bit as they're very fast atleast partially due to the
block
> device driver, so you might try searching groups.google.com (old Deja).
I tried that, google's been screwing it up pretty thoroughly. Some days I
can get a few weeks back, others only a few days. It's too bad....
> image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.2
> label=l242
> append="console=ttyS0,9600"
> read-only
> root=/dev/rd/c0d0p2
Right. The problem is that I'm booting from /dev/sda, using it as root,
and trying to get lilo to make /dev/rd/c0d0p2 the new root, and it's giving
me fits. : ) I'll try the "custom" install, and see how that goes. Thanks
for the tips!
steve
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From: "Steve Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: lilo -or- installing to a Mylex controller
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 10:43:17 -0700
> If this controller is on a unique major drive number in /dev, then LILO
will
> require modification before it will recognize the controller.
>
> One new controller was added to the latest version of LILO (21.7) by a
> contributor. Offhand, I don't remember which controller it was, but it is
> major device 80(decimal).
According to the docs, support for the Mylex card was added to LILO in
version 21, which is what I have.
steve
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From: "Matthias Reis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I search the Linux-Driver for the EUMEX404-PC
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 19:12:32 +0100
Im Artikel <97boph$men$03$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb "MBen123"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I search the Linux-Driver for the EUMEX404-PC !!!! Where can help me???
> E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
http://www.atlas.uni-wuppertal.de/~harenber/eumex.html ....
Matthias
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From: Sean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: DLink DFE-530TX+ NIC OK with Linux ?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 18:05:06 +0000
I currently have a couple of DLink DFE-530TX NICs working OK with my
SuSE 6.4 setup using the via-rhine driver.
I was going to get some more of these cards but I notice that D-Link
only seem to have the DFE-530TX+ available now.
Can anyone tell me if this new card works OK with Linux ? If so, what
driver does it use ? Is it still the via-rhine driver ?
Cheers,
Sean.
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From: Jason Clifford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Need LOTS of disks: Promise ATA RAID??
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 18:17:02 +0000
On 26 Feb 2001, John Rowe wrote:
> A user needs at least 300GB of disk space and that's after formatting,
> file system overhead, etc. So I'm reckoning I need at least 6 IBM 60GB
> disks and I would prefer to have only one per channel, ie no hard
> disks running as slaves. So I could use a little help!
Have you considered that for a requirement of so much disk space access
times to data is also important.
While a RAID5 of 6 60GB EIDE drives would provide the necessary space
would performance be up to the requirement? If so then fine, go ahead and
buy a couple of 4 channel ATA-100 IDE controllers and be happy.
If not then I strongly recommend that you get a real hardware raid card
and a quantity of 10,000 rpm hard drives.
Also bear in mind that you probably want hot swap capability so factor
that in from the outset - it's VERY expensive to have to cobble it on
later.
Jason Clifford
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From: "C. Newport" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Need LOTS of disks: Promise ATA RAID??
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 18:26:12 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
John Rowe wrote:
>
> A user needs at least 300GB of disk space and that's after formatting,
> file system overhead, etc. So I'm reckoning I need at least 6 IBM 60GB
> disks and I would prefer to have only one per channel, ie no hard
> disks running as slaves. So I could use a little help!
>
> * If I just use three ordinary ATA-100 cards will that cause me any
> problems? (Performance, boot, etc.)
>
> * Will I gain much by using Promise ATA RAID cards? Is there better
> performance, does it reduce the number of IRQs I'm using? Are
> there boot problems if I try to make a RAID device my boot device?
>
Your only realistic option is SCSI, preferably using an external
RAID array.
Take a look at http://www.transtec.co.uk/ for typical configs.
--
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm
not sure about the universe. [Albert Einstein].
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From: Joshua Baker-LePain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Need LOTS of disks: Promise ATA RAID??
Date: 26 Feb 2001 18:45:55 GMT
In comp.os.linux.hardware C. Newport <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> John Rowe wrote:
>>
>> A user needs at least 300GB of disk space and that's after formatting,
>> file system overhead, etc. So I'm reckoning I need at least 6 IBM 60GB
>> disks and I would prefer to have only one per channel, ie no hard
>> disks running as slaves. So I could use a little help!
>>
>> * If I just use three ordinary ATA-100 cards will that cause me any
>> problems? (Performance, boot, etc.)
>>
>> * Will I gain much by using Promise ATA RAID cards? Is there better
>> performance, does it reduce the number of IRQs I'm using? Are
>> there boot problems if I try to make a RAID device my boot device?
>>
> Your only realistic option is SCSI, preferably using an external
> RAID array.
I'm in the market for disk space of this magnitude at the moment as
well. While the above statement used to be the case, I have heard
a number of *very* informed opinions in support of IDE-SCSI RAID
towers, such as the ones at www.zero-d.com. It's a tower/rack-mount
full of IDE disks that'll do RAID 0, 1, or 5 (possibly 10, I don't
recall at the moment). They have hot swappable drives, power supplies
and fans. Finally, they connect to the host via a SCSI (typically UW or
U2W) connection, so are OS independent.
There was a thread on this on the beowulf mailing list just a bit ago.
You can look at it here:
http://www.beowulf.org/pipermail/beowulf/2001-February/thread.html
These are *far* cheaper than SCSI arrays of similar size. From initial
quotes I've gotten, I can get 560GB of RAID 5 storage (8*80GB drives)
for ~$6K. 8 73GB SCSI drives alone will run you close to $10K, never
mind the controllers, power supplies, case, etc.
If you don't want an external solution, 3ware sells a PCI card that'll do
RAID 0, 1, and 5 as well. They have 4 and 8 channel versions, and
fully open source Linux drivers.
Good luck.
--
Joshua Baker-LePain
Department of Biomedical Engineering
Duke University
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From: "Major Dondo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux IDE RAID Cards
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 13:15:28 +0500
Hey count me in for the beta testers - I just installed yet another
arcoide in a linux box. It's so simple, an idiot could set it up (just
as long as you use short cables).
:-)
--Yan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jwk)
Subject: Re: Problems with sound on Gigabyte GA-7ZX Motherboard
Date: 26 Feb 2001 19:03:56 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 17:30:14 +0200, Michael Horwitz
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I have installed a Redhat 7.0 system on a 1 GHz Athlon based system, and am
>having problems getting the sound to work under Linux (it works fine under
>Windows). The motherboard has a builtin Creative CT5880 sound chip, which is
>meant to work as a Soundblaster 128 PCI card. Both the bios and lspci pick
>up the card just fine.
>
>In configuring the card I have tried both the built-in and the Alsa sound
>drivers. The builtin es1371 driver loads without problem (it reports no
>errors) but whenever I try to play a sound file to either through cat *.au >
>/dev/audio or using the player that comes with socks, everything simply
>locks up.
>
Post it to the kernel list along with a lspci -vv of your sound device -
perhaps it's a newer revision that isn't supported....
Jurriaan
--
In the middle of a good time
Truth gave me her icy kiss
Look around, you must be joking
Oysterband - All that way for this
GNU/Linux 2.4.2-ac3 SMP/ReiserFS 2x1756 bogomips load av: 0.19 0.05 0.01
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Martin)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Need LOTS of disks: Promise ATA RAID??
Date: 26 Feb 2001 18:59:23 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
John Rowe wrote:
>A user needs at least 300GB of disk space and that's after formatting,
>file system overhead, etc. So I'm reckoning I need at least 6 IBM 60GB
>disks and I would prefer to have only one per channel, ie no hard
>disks running as slaves. So I could use a little help!
If they're going to get heavy use (multiple simultaneous accesses),
then I wouldn't recommend IDE.
What use will this 300Gbyte be put to? Is the data ephemeral or would
there be some need for protection against one of the drives going phut?
--
Paul Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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