Linux-Hardware Digest #431, Volume #14 Sat, 3 Mar 01 05:13:07 EST
Contents:
Re: Harddisk performance (Plato)
Re: NetGear FA310TX (Monte Milanuk)
Re: Sound card blues: Resource ALWAYS busy (MindPatrol)
Re: Is the PCI bus going away? (MindPatrol)
Re: Bad RAM (MindPatrol)
Re: replacing startx with startx -- +xinerama ("g.montgomery")
Re: Install help: Crusoe laptop with only a PCMCIA CD-ROM drive? ("g.montgomery")
Any WMA decoder in linux so far? ("Astroboy")
Re: Bad RAM (Dances With Crows)
Re: Any WMA decoder in linux so far? (Erik de Castro Lopo)
Re: Should I abandon SCSI? ("Ron Reaugh")
Re: Harddisk performance (Plato)
installing over pcmcia network card (Chris Linstid)
Detecting an IRQ problem ("Winston Smith")
Re: Should I abandon SCSI? (Stefano Ghirlanda)
Seagate 20GB IDE Tape problem -- DSC Timeouts ("Pavel Bocek")
Re: Should I abandon SCSI? (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
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From: Plato <|@|.|>
Crossposted-To:
alt.comp.hardware.overclocking.amd,alt.windows98,alt.windows-me,hk.comp.pc,microsoft.public.win98.setup
Subject: Re: Harddisk performance
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 23:38:19 -0500
Dheera Venkatraman wrote:
>
> Is there anything really wrong with HTML posts? I always thought most
> newsreaders supported it...
A great many things are wrong with html posts in a plain text NG
http://www.bootdisk.com/html.htm
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Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 19:47:44 -0700
From: Monte Milanuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: NetGear FA310TX
Man, I don't know what's up w/ your situation. I am putzing around w/
an old Gateway P133 hooked up to my kvm switch. It has a Netgear
FA310TX card in it, and it was detected w/o a hitch, and works
flawlessly.
I am running static IP, in my lan behind a firewall. Eventually this
box will be a DHCP server, among other things. Why exactly are you
using DHCP to configure this interface? Is it your external (i.e. goes
to the Internet) interface, or does it go to a LAN? If so, are you
_sure_ that the LAN has DHCP running? Do you have a rough idea of what
the IP _should_ be based on using the winipcfg utility in Windows? i.e.
Start -> Run -> winipcfg If this is an interface to a LAN that you have
some say in, or you know what the netmask and IP range is roughly, you
might try assigning a static IP that is within the subnet/netmask range,
but perhaps outside the dhcp range, temporarily, to see if you can get
it to work.
I stripped most of the stuff off of my box, like linuxconf and whatnot,
so I can't help a lot with that. But here is a print-out of a few
commands on my box, if it helps any:
[root@gatekeeper monte]# /sbin/ifconfig
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:A0:CC:3C:DE:FE
inet addr:10.0.0.3 Bcast:10.255.255.255 Mask:255.0.0.0
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:3118 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:2176 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
Interrupt:10 Base address:0xf800
lo Link encap:Local Loopback
inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:3924 Metric:1
RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
[root@gatekeeper monte]# /sbin/lsmod
Module Size Used by
tulip 31872 1 (autoclean)
[root@gatekeeper monte]# locate tulip
/lib/modules/2.2.16-22/net/old_tulip.o
/lib/modules/2.2.16-22/net/tulip.o
/lib/modules/2.2.16-22/pcmcia/tulip_cb.o
[root@gatekeeper monte]#
HTH,
Monte
Tim Lyth wrote:
>
> > It is possible that the problem is that you are not properly assigning an IP to
>it. Did you give it a static IP, or do you need to get a DHCP IP with something like
>dhcpcd or pump (can't help you with that)?
>
> Yeah, my ip address is assigned by dhcp.
> I hadn't read all the replies till I sent my second message.
>
> I use netconf to edit the network settings, set the adapter to DHCP and I get an
> error message saying something about IP initialisation failure, but I don't get
> any error messages when I specify to manually set the IP.
>
> Any ideas? Fart-arse around with the route table?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tim Lyth
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (MindPatrol)
Subject: Re: Sound card blues: Resource ALWAYS busy
Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 04:33:32 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 1 Mar 2001 11:53:11 -0800, Christian Sandvig
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Please, take pity on a novice that doesn't know where to turn!
Try a newer kernel like 2.4.2. It doesn't need isapnp tools
(has all the PNP stuff builtin) and worked great with my
funky sound card.
Good luck,
John
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (MindPatrol)
Subject: Re: Is the PCI bus going away?
Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 04:33:32 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 02 Mar 2001 01:04:34 GMT, jtnews
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Is the PCI bus going away?
I have to agree with everyone else that PCI still has a few
more years of life, but I can hardly wait for widespread
production of Infiniband devices.
2.5 Gb/sec and 10 Gb/sec over fiber or circuit traces in the
initial versions. How about a "cluster in a box" with a
bunch of modules containing just a CPU and some memory, that
plug into an Infiniband switch that gives each CPU module
access to I/O devices in other modules. Want another CPU,
just plug in a power supply and a single fiber cable to the
switch. This will make it possible to build highly modular
systems that plug together like Legos (tm).
Infiniband will change everything about building computers.
Linux clustering software is going to become extremely
important in a few years.
Regards,
John
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (MindPatrol)
Subject: Re: Bad RAM
Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 04:33:31 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 1 Mar 2001 14:04:56 -0000, "Thom Lawrence"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>saying i have 65536k of ram. if however, i let the thing run as far as
>its own self test, it will say 65280k is okay. it doesn't say 256k is
>_bad_, it just doesn't count all the way. either way, all the signs are
>that the ram is bad: i am getting weird gcc errors (that signal 11
>thing), seg faults and all the right gubbins.
Is it possible that you bios is reserving 256K of memory for
somthing "special" (some kind of laptop voodoo) and this is
screwing with Linux? Have you tried disabling all the power
management stuff in the BIOS setup?
What kernel are you running? Have you tried 2.4.2?
DISCLAIMER: I don't know what I'm talking about.
John
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From: "g.montgomery" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: replacing startx with startx -- +xinerama
Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 04:46:39 GMT
Chris Nelson wrote:
<snip>
>
>
> P.S. Any idea how I can have the system default to KDE as opposed to
> gnome? Thought I would throw this in as well
>
<snip>
Try switchdesk - gives you lots of options - gnome, kde, fvwm, enlightenment,
windowmaker,
and twm.
$ which switchdesk
/usr/bin/switchdesk
I've only used it a couple of times, as I stick to KDE mostly, but it seems to
work.
Gene.
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From: "g.montgomery" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Install help: Crusoe laptop with only a PCMCIA CD-ROM drive?
Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 04:55:29 GMT
Richard wrote:
> Steven M. Casagrande wrote:
>
> > I've just bought a Fujitsu P1000 (Crusoe), with USB floppy and PCMCIA
> > CD-ROM drive. The P1000 won't boot from the CD-ROM, but I can get it
> > to boot the RH6.2 Linux install floppy. However, once there I can't
> > figure out how to get it to recognize the PCMCIA CD-ROM drive so I can
> > continue with the rest of the installation.
> >
> > Also, if anyone has tried Linux on one of these types of boxes, I'd
> > love to hear from you (or get a pointer to a how-to). This box is
> > relatively new (bought in Hong Kong), not available in USA yet except
> > through grey market (maybe under the Japanese model Loox-S). It has:
> >
Just a thought:
Have you tried to trigger Linus or his compatriots at Transmeta on this -
after all, they have the kernel wizard and the hardware gurus there. And,
I betcha they've seen and solved your problem before.
<snip>
Gene.
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From: "Astroboy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.embedded,comp.os.linux.m68k,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.powerpc
Subject: Any WMA decoder in linux so far?
Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 13:27:38 +0800
Is their any Windows Media Audio decoder written on i386 linux? text mode is
ok. is there any?
Astroboy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Bad RAM
Date: 3 Mar 2001 05:42:40 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 03 Mar 2001 04:33:31 GMT, MindPatrol staggered into the Black
Sun and said:
>On Thu, 1 Mar 2001 14:04:56 -0000, "Thom Lawrence"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>saying i have 65536k of ram. if however, i let the thing run as far as
>>its own self test, it will say 65280k is okay. it doesn't say 256k is
>>_bad_, it just doesn't count all the way. either way, all the signs are
>>that the ram is bad: i am getting weird gcc errors (that signal 11
>>thing), seg faults and all the right gubbins.
>
>Is it possible that you bios is reserving 256K of memory for somthing
>"special" (some kind of laptop voodoo) and this is screwing with Linux?
>Have you tried disabling all the power management stuff in the BIOS
>setup?
>What kernel are you running? Have you tried 2.4.2?
>DISCLAIMER: I don't know what I'm talking about.
IBM Thinkpads in particular do this; my 600X has 128M but at boot
reports 130496K rather than 131072K available--apparently 576K of RAM
gets reserved for IBM-knows-what; something related to their BIOS setup
program or PS2.EXE most likely. The quick fix is to look at that
self-test reported number and pass that as an option to the kernel, in
your case,
LILO: linux mem=65280k
The kernel will believe what you say on the command line, the 256K that
is being reserved for unknown things will stay that way, and you should
be much happier.
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
=============================/ I hit a seg fault....
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From: Erik de Castro Lopo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.embedded,comp.os.linux.m68k,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.powerpc
Subject: Re: Any WMA decoder in linux so far?
Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 06:24:44 GMT
Astroboy wrote:
>
> Is their any Windows Media Audio decoder written on i386 linux? text mode is
> ok. is there any?
Not yet, but I'm working on one.
I see WMA as part of Microsoft's attempts to decommoditize protocols
as set out in the first of the Halloween documents:
http://www.opensource.org/halloween/halloween1.html
Erik
--
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Erik de Castro Lopo [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yes its valid)
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"He who writes the code gets to choose his license, and nobody
else gets to complain" -- Linus Torvalds
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From: "Ron Reaugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Re: Should I abandon SCSI?
Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 06:21:30 GMT
Fred wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Damn the performance issues; the ATA- Standards group is trying to place
>commands in the ATA spec to prevent you from storing certain data types
>on them, and place an unique ID on each and every disk, and implement a
>command to disable the disk by their software... ala the Intel debacle.
>www.cryptome.org
That initaitive must be resisted with all possible fervor.
>Ron Reaugh wrote:
>>
>> Eric P. McCoy wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>> >
>> >For my personal situation, I am guaranteed to encounter a
>> >non-recoverable data error about every year, for each disk. With two
>> >disks in a RAID0 array, I'd get twice the number of errors in the same
>> >amount of time.
>>
>> Well, the rate per terabyte read would still be the same. So twice as
fast
>> gets one to an error sooner but that's an advantage and not a
disadvantage.
>> Such errors can appear for both SCSI or EIDE single drives or RAID 0.
Now
>> what are the undetected and unrecoverable error rates for a RAID 1 array
or
>> RAID 5 array?
>>
>> >I have _already_ suffered data errors on _both_ disks in this
>> >computer, and one disk is less than a month old. While it seems like
>> >I've gotten some flakey hardware, I think it should still serve to
>> >show that the likelihood of failure is _not_ small.
>>
>> No, it just shows that you should get a professional to configure your
>> machines next time.
>>
>> >> >So what if a disk fails? That's what RAID is really for, not for
>> >> >performance.
>> >
>> >> Not true for RAID 0.
>> >
>> >Which is why the "really" is in there. RAID0 is a red herring.
>>
>> Nope, it's a performance enhancing disk configuration. The reason it was
>> called RAID is that it is an array of disks that was so substantially
>> similar to other RAID arrays that the word RAID was chosen because of
>> fundamental similarities inspite of the R. Any cretin can recognize that
>> fact.
>>
>> Every RAID FAQ/site includes RAID 0 so just rant on.
>>
>> >> > And it's why striping is RAID zero: because it's not
>> >> >really RAID at all.
>> >
>> >> RAID 0 is not really RAID and a logician could have fun with a red
rose
>> is
>> >> not really a rose.
>> >
>> >RAID = Redundant Array of Inexpensive Disks.
>> >
>> >RAID0 is not redundant at all. Therefore its classification as a RAID
>> >level is a misnomer. Every introductory book to RAID there is
>> >comments on this; stop being pedantic.
>>
>> Every book an RAID says that striping is called RAID 0...get a clue.
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From: Plato <|@|.|>
Crossposted-To:
alt.comp.hardware.overclocking.amd,alt.windows98,alt.windows-me,hk.comp.pc,microsoft.public.win98.setup
Subject: Re: Harddisk performance
Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 02:16:26 -0500
RMS wrote:
>
> Microshaft newsgroups use HTML posts exclusively.
Yeah? What happens if you post in just plain text there. Do you get
flamed?
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Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 03:46:08 -0500
From: Chris Linstid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: installing over pcmcia network card
I've got a Linksys PCM200 network card... it uses the tulip_cb module
for the driver, but I don't have a CD-rom drive in my laptop. So,
I need to install over the network. The problem is that I haven't
gotten a system to install that works with it yet. I tried Debian with
the first 17 disks on floppies (ouch) and installed the base system. It
almost worked, but I found that I needed a newer version of the tulip_cb
driver in order to for it to completely work. The problem with that is
that I can't compile the tulip_cb driver/module with the development
packages... which I can't install, because I can't access the network.
I tried compiling it on a different machine (using the same kernel
source), but to no avail. Any help or insight on this I could get would
be excellent. Thanks! :)
- Chris
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From: "Winston Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Detecting an IRQ problem
Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 10:30:44 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
I would like to know how I can find out if my sound card don't work
under linux because of an IRQ conflict (as it was the case under
windows). And if so, I would also like to know how I can disable
the SB 16 compatibility of my sound card (it's a SB Live!) because
it should free an IRQ (at least it does with windows) and I think it's
not actually a usefull feature today.
Thanks
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From: Stefano Ghirlanda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Re: Should I abandon SCSI?
Date: 03 Mar 2001 11:03:25 +0100
"Ron Reaugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Fred wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >Damn the performance issues; the ATA- Standards group is trying to place
> >commands in the ATA spec to prevent you from storing certain data types
> >on them, and place an unique ID on each and every disk, and implement a
> >command to disable the disk by their software... ala the Intel debacle.
> >www.cryptome.org
>
>
> That initaitive must be resisted with all possible fervor.
IBM might be jumping off that train, there was some news at
www.userlocal.com.
--
Stefano - Hodie quinto Nonas Martias MMI est
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From: "Pavel Bocek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Seagate 20GB IDE Tape problem -- DSC Timeouts
Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 10:50:42 +0100
Hi,
I got a Seagate ST20000A Tape Drive (ATAPI, 20/10 GB capacity ). With small
files there are no problems, however when trying to get a larger file (90
meg for example) from tape the file is not copied completely.
In system log I see:
Mar 3 09:34:01 trade kernel: ide-tape: hdc <-> ht0, 1000KBps, 6*54kB buffer,
5400kB pipeline, 130ms tDSC
Mar 3 10:28:51 trade kernel: ide-tape: ht0: DSC timeout
Mar 3 10:28:51 trade kernel: hdc: ATAPI reset complete
Mar 3 10:28:51 trade kernel: ide-tape: ht0: I/O error, pc = 8, key = 2,
asc=4, ascq = 1
I tried different kernels, 2.2.16. and 2.2.18 (same bahaviour) and hedrick's
IDE patches (here timeouts even on tape rewinds & status)
Does anybody have any idea to solve this problem?
Thanks
Pavel
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Crossposted-To: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Re: Should I abandon SCSI?
Date: 3 Mar 2001 10:08:30 GMT
I said:
> I wouldn't say [RAID 0 is] useless--that depends on the data stored on the
> volume and how well the site has prepared for failure. But I agree--RAID 0
> is a high price to pay for failure.
Ron Reaugh replied:
> Nope, just keep good backups like is required with a single HD.
Of course backups are good. There are situations when restoring a full
backup of a huge RAID 0 is too time consuming and backups are not easy to
make because the data is changing all the time. If a client is in the shop
and a drive in the array fails, the last thing they want to hear is "Wait
while I restore the array from a backup.". Hardware that can hot swap and
automatically rebuild a single failed drive in a RAID 3 or 5 while users
continue using the volume is a valuable compromise. To get that level of
insurance out of RAID 0 you'd need RAID 0+1 which doubles the price of the
array for no increase in storage space.
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