Linux-Hardware Digest #432, Volume #9 Sun, 14 Feb 99 22:13:36 EST
Contents:
Reseting an internal modem? (Egg LeFume)
Re: Is there in existence source code to a linux K56 fLex modem driver? ("~The
Seventh Sign ~")
Re: Linux & overclocked CPU ("David A. Frantz")
Re: Maximum Disk Size in 486 ("Charles Sullivan")
Re: epson stylus color 600 (John Thompson)
NFS-Root With a 3c905B (Sidney Berg)
Re: Ensoniq soundcard problem (Eric Turner)
Re: Ensoniq soundcard problem (Stephe)
Re: Lemarx ColorJet 1000 ("Nic Holbrook")
Re: Ensoniq soundcard problem (Mircea)
Re: video card compatibility (Stephe)
Re: Diamond Viper 550 Riva TNT ("Antonio Garc�a")
Re: ATI 3D Rage IIc - Getting on my tits! (Bill Unruh)
Re: ATI 3D Rage IIc - Getting on my tits! (Bill Unruh)
Re: What scanner? (Oliver Rauch)
3c509 + 3c59x = Barfff (Christian Aasland)
Re: Linux on a 586 PCI card in a PowerMac? (Thorolf Weisshuhn)
Problem with install ("Edward M. Beaudoin")
Help with IRQ ..... Please (Nasser)
Re: Ensoniq soundcard problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Need NIC Recommendation for Stock RH5.1 (Warrior)
Re: 56k modems. (Jonathan Adams)
Re: Modem (Howard Close)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Reseting an internal modem?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Egg LeFume)
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 05:59:38 GMT
Hi.
I seem to be having trouble with my internal modem (Newcom 33.6).
Half of the time after I turn my machine on, the modem doesn't work at
all; init strings don't work, ATZ doesn't work, dialing certainly doesn't
work, and minicom (or Telix if I'm using DOS) freezes while quitting (I
don't even get a prompt back). The only way to get the modem working is
to give the machine a "hard" reboot, hitting either the reset or power
button (after ctrl-alt-del, of course). The three-finger salute does
nothing for the modem.
I think I read somewhere (a mailing list? usenet? Not sure.)
about some program/utility that can reset an internal modem as if the
machine had been reset. Does anybody know of this, or have any other
ideas of how I can reset my modem without rebooting? (Besides "get an
external modem;" I plan to, but I have other more important things to get
first.) Please post any replies, or email to eggie at sunlink.net .
Thanks.
Jamie Kufrovich
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From: "~The Seventh Sign ~" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.2600
Subject: Re: Is there in existence source code to a linux K56 fLex modem driver?
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 01:02:18 -0500
Reply-To: "~The Seventh Sign ~" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
try comp.os.linux.hardware They seem to like Unix hardware problems a
bunch.
I have Seen many post with helpful people there.
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From: "David A. Frantz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Linux & overclocked CPU
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 20:33:31 -0500
A. G.
Your over clocking the chip and you don't have enough sense to make sure you
have fast enough RAM, so what do you think the problem is. Is it really
that difficult to unplug the slow ram and see what happens?????
dave
A.G. wrote in message ...
>Hi all:
>
>Problem:
>- ABIT BX6 MB + Celeron300A CPU. Overclocked to 450.
>- Linux 2.0.36 won't boot up after overclocking. It goes through all
>initialization stuff at startup, and then, just when it's supposed to
>display "login" prompt, it would reboot the 'puter. If I take the speed
back
>to 300Mhz, everything works. NT and w98 work perfectly on overclocked
>computer..
>
>I suspect it's the memory. I have 96M, 32 of which is non-100Mhz. Could
this
>be the thing? Maybe I should adjust smth in BIOS setup?
>
>Any input greately appreciated. If you can, please cc by email.
>
>Arcady
>
>
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From: "Charles Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Maximum Disk Size in 486
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:12:36 -0500
It's not clear to me that the processor has much to do with it; it's more
the IDE
adapter. Linux can deal with more than the 1024 cylinder limit imposed by
the standard DOS BIOS call (INT 13h) because it doesn't use the BIOS,
but you'll have to specifically tell the kernel (and fdisk) the drive
geometry.
kernel versions prior to v2.2.0 (RH5.2 ships with v2.0.36) have a
(non-fatal)
problem with LBA geometry, but your older? BIOS probably doesn't support
LBA anyway. If you intend to devote your entire drive to Linux, you
needn't care;
your only concern will be to keep the kernel resident entirely below the
1024
cylinder boundary if you expect to boot from the hard drive with LILO.
Regards,
Charles Sullivan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message <7a5ip1$ito$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I am currently running redhat 5.2 on a 500 meg drive in a 486. I would like
>more disk space but am not sure what my options are. I believe that the 486
>architecture does not recognize drives larger than 500 or so megs under
dos. I
>am not sure what to expect or if it is advisable to just pop in a new
gigabyte
>plus drive. If someone could be kind enough to drop me a quick note i'd
>appreciate it. TIA.
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: epson stylus color 600
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 06:17:39 -0600
stephan wrote:
>
> hello all
> i got redhat 5.2 running fine on my computer. I want to know how I can
> configure my priter to run on linux and I have no idea on how to do it.
> I also want my printer to be accessible from my normal user account.
> also, I have star office installed and running.
> can anyone help please?
Ghostscript supports the ESC600 pretty well. I don't think
that the version that ships with RH is very new, though, so
you may want to download a newer version if the one you have
is older than v5.10. Tell StarOffice you have a "generic
postscript printer" and it should be fine.
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-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 17:44:54 +0000
From: Sidney Berg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: NFS-Root With a 3c905B
I am having problems setting up a diskless computer to boot off of
my network. I have compiled a kernel including the driver for my 3c905B
and including nfs-root and bootp support. I set up a bootp server and a
root filesystem is being exported via nfs. The major problem seems to
be that the 3c905B driver won't initialise. Then the kernel isn't able
to use bootp to find out the appropriate addresses.
When I boot using my disk the kernel gives me the message:
3c59x.c:v0.99H 11/17/98 Donald Becker
http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/vortex.html
IP-Config: No network devices available.
When I boot using the hard disk as the root filesystem the 3c905B driver
acts a little different by saying:
3c59x.c:v0.99H 11/17/98 Donald Becker
http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/vortex.html
eth0: 3Com 3c905B Cyclone 100baseTx at 0xd800, 00:10:5a:c6:8d:a8, IRQ
11
8k byte-wide RAM 5:3 Rx:Tx split, 10baseT interface.
Enabling bus-master transmits and whole-frame receives.
eth0: Overriding PCI latency timer (CFLT) setting of 0, new value is 32.
It seems to me that the kernel on the boot disk won't set up my card as
eth0 for some reason. It just loads the driver then trys to access the
network but it can't find a device because it hasn't setup eth0 with the
appropriate hardware address and such.
Any help would be much appreciated. I'm pretty confident that I have
gotten all of the settings right but it just doesn't seem to want to
work.
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Sidney Berg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: Eric Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.questions,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Ensoniq soundcard problem
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 16:53:11 -0800
I'm running Slackware and have had the same problem. There are
commercial drivers for the Ensonic Audio PCI (available from OSS). I
tried the demo driver and it work great, but I'd rather not pay for a
friggin DRIVER! A while back I heard there was supposed to be support in
the 2.2.x kernels, but I haven't had the time to check into it since the
new release...
Eric
Mark Smith wrote:
>
> Anyone out there able to get Red Hat 5.2 to recognize your Ensonic Audio PCI
> card? Even though there are no specific drivers to support this (it IS
> Soundblaster compatible) the kernel doesn't even recognize a sound device at
> boot-time.
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From: Stephe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.questions,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Ensoniq soundcard problem
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 02:36:03 -0500
Jeremiah wrote:
>
> BoogerLord wrote:
>
> > I ran sndconfig from root & it auto-detected the
> > Ensoniq Audio PCI w/no input from me- I did the
> > Creative Labs upgrade on the card (from Ensoniq's
> > old site) before I ever loaded Linux, don't know if that
> > would make a difference...
>
> I didn't do the upgrade (hadn't even heard about it 'til now),
> but sndconfig auto-detected my Ensoniq (1370) with no problems.
> It played the sample fine too... it's just that the drivers with
> RH 5.2 suck... :(
>
I agree. I went sound card shopping today. Got a shuttle PCI with
this 1370 chip and a generic ISA card with the crystal CS4232
chip and tried both. The 1370 chip sounded REAL bad while the
card with the crystal CS4232 chip sounds great! Have no idea if
linux just doesn't like PCI sound cards or if the driver for this
chip is just lame.. Lucky I can return the shuttle card and the
generic one was only $10!!! Both plug and played fine..
--
Stephe
Having fun with Linux!
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From: "Nic Holbrook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lemarx ColorJet 1000
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 19:10:02 -0700
I have a lexmark 5700 series, and it doesn't run under linux, either. I
called the company, and they it uses the same sort of driver setup as a
winmodem.....???? WinPrinters??? I think so. If i'd known this, I
wouldn't have bought the damn thing..........
Nic Holbrook
Mark Hollett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>Has anyone managed to get one of these working properly under linux?
>I've been playing with mine for months now, with no luck. Any hints or
>suggestions would be welcome. TIA
>
>mark h
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From: Mircea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.questions,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Ensoniq soundcard problem
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 02:46:30 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Well, the only thing I can say is my ES1371 works great with the drivers
in the 2.2.1 kernel.
MST
Stephe wrote:
> >
>
> I agree. I went sound card shopping today. Got a shuttle PCI with
> this 1370 chip and a generic ISA card with the crystal CS4232
> chip and tried both. The 1370 chip sounded REAL bad while the
> card with the crystal CS4232 chip sounds great! Have no idea if
> linux just doesn't like PCI sound cards or if the driver for this
> chip is just lame.. Lucky I can return the shuttle card and the
> generic one was only $10!!! Both plug and played fine..
> --
>
> Stephe
>
> Having fun with Linux!
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From: Stephe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: video card compatibility
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 02:47:34 -0500
Alex Sbityakov wrote:
>
> Hi,
> can anyone direct me to a list of video cards supported by Linux (namely
> Redhat 5.1). I tried the LDP, but couldn't find it. Thanks.
Go to http://www.redhat.com/support/docs/hardware.html
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Stephe
Having fun with Linux!
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From: "Antonio Garc�a" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Diamond Viper 550 Riva TNT
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 01:47:56 -0000
Jack Knife escribi� en mensaje
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Can anyone help me with the answer to my problem (or where I can find the
>answer ??). I am trying to run xwindows but whatever graphicscard I choose
>it only results in a screen resolution of 320X200.
>I am quite new to Linux...but I am enjoying it....
>
>I use a Diamond Viper 550 Riva TNT
I think that you have use one drivers for xwindows that function with one
Riva TNT card. If you use the server Xfree86 3.3.3, then the card woulb be
work with the SVGA server. If you have problems can go to:
http://www.xfree86.org
http://www.rivazone.com
I expect that this help you.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: ATI 3D Rage IIc - Getting on my tits!
Date: 15 Feb 1999 02:22:46 GMT
In <7a7mmc$7mm$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I wonder if anyone can help me? I've just got this nice new machine with an
>ATI 3D Rage IIc graphics card (Mach64GT, Internal DAC Type) and can I get it
>to run XFree under RedHat 5.2 (apollo)?
There is a procedure listed ( or at least was) to get the Rage IIc
working under XFREE 3.3.2 However, the best idea is to get XFREE 3.3.3,
which has RageIIc support built in.
(I returned a RageIIc card before I found out tht I could have used it.
Same symptoms as yours-- 4 coppies of the left edge of the screen)
You could also just try using the Mach64 driver from the 3.3.3
distribution and see if that works under 3.3.2
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: ATI 3D Rage IIc - Getting on my tits!
Date: 15 Feb 1999 02:24:52 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ryan Cumming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
>My friend ran a ATI Rage II fine under apollo with the accelerated Mach64 server.
3.3.2 supports Rage II fine. It is the Rage IIc (note the little c)
which has trouble. 3.3.3 fixes teh trouble I am told.
Isn;t it nice that ATI changes the cards and warns you only with one
little letter.
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From: Oliver Rauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What scanner?
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 23:50:41 +0100
Hue-Bond wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I'm about to buy a scanner for my box and I want it to be
> supported by Linux. In the Hardware-HOWTO there are a few ones
> (�all?) but I'd like to see a more comprehensive list. Is there a
> good URL? I'd like as well that you told me what brand and model of
> scanner you have (flatbed, 24bit, one pass).
>
> Thanks.
>
Hi,
take a look at: http://www.mostang.com/sane
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From: Christian Aasland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.install
Subject: 3c509 + 3c59x = Barfff
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 08:54:02 GMT
Hello, any help would be appreciated (please email too):
I have a 3Com 3c509b that works great by itself. But as soon as I plug
in a 3Com
3c59x (in this case 3c900 (Boomerang) or 3c905 (Vortex)) PCI cards I
lose the
3c5x9 ISA card. I've turned off PnP bios on the card and mboard and set
the card
to a non-conflcting IRQ/ioport. Still not getting anything!
Anyone care to lead me in the right direction (or at least let me know
if it can be done) ???
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thorolf Weisshuhn)
Subject: Re: Linux on a 586 PCI card in a PowerMac?
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 08:45:13 +0100
Hi!
I should have made clear, that I'm not looking for one of the
Mac-Linuxes. I've seen the LinuxPPC stuff, and it is fine.
However, I am thinking wether it is possible to use standard distributed
stuff for x86 (SUSE, RedHat, and precompiled applications); and the only
stuff to adjust being some drivers.
So I want to know whether someone has done that before or wether it is
definitely impossible.
Yours,
Thorolf
> Hi!
>
> Can I run Linux on Apple's 586 PCI card?
>
> And if so, a standard distribution won't do, right?
>
>
> Yours,
>
> Thorolf
>
>
>
> Reply-to is set to comp.os.linux.hardware
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From: "Edward M. Beaudoin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Problem with install
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 02:40:01 GMT
I'm trying to install RedHat 5.2 on my Pentium 166. I'm booting off of
floppy. I get the Welcome to RedHat Linux menu, I hit enter and it
starts booting. While booting everything looks normal. It stops at the
following:
RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0.
In a while I get the following:
EXT2-fs warning: checktime reached, running e2fsck is recommended
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem)
bdflush() activated ... sleeping again
bdflush() activated ... sleeping again
bdflush() activated ... sleeping again
And everything stops there.
I've used the same disk to install on my 486 Pac. Bell with no problems.
Could the problem be with the PnP extension in my Award BIOS (I don't
know how to disable it)? Hopefully it's something simple that I'm
overlooking.
Other info: TR5510 AIO M/B, i430FX chipset w/ UM8669 Super I/O, Award
BIOS V4.51PG, PnP BIOS extension V1.0A. Let me know if I need to provide
any other info.
Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Ed Beaudoin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Nasser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help with IRQ ..... Please
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:43:25 -0800
Hi,
i'm too excited that this is my first time i'm posting via Linux .....
Wow very cool OS and much superior than WinNT in term of security,
multitasking, and connection speed (internet) .... and in top of all
that it's almost free (only shelled out $1.60 for TurboLinux, which by
the way is a kick ass distribution for bigenners like me) ...
every things seems ok with me .. except that every time i boot up Linux,
i must use setserial to reflect the corresponding IRQ for my modem ,,,,
the port my internal modem uses is com 3 with IRQ 5 .....
is there any way to make Linux assign IRQ to my modem automatically at
the start up ..... hate to do it manually every time i boot up my shiny
Linux .....
Have SupraExpressed 56i ... jumpered to ttyS2 and IRQ 5 ....
thanks
Nasser
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.questions,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Ensoniq soundcard problem
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 07:58:18 GMT
In article <1%ox2.1357$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Mark Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anyone out there able to get Red Hat 5.2 to recognize your Ensonic Audio PCI
> card? Even though there are no specific drivers to support this (it IS
> Soundblaster compatible) the kernel doesn't even recognize a sound device at
> boot-time.
>
>You mus compile a new kernel. But sound support is built in to the newest
kernels, such as 2.2.0 and 2.2.1 Get 'em.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Warrior)
Subject: Re: Need NIC Recommendation for Stock RH5.1
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 12:33:11 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <xMzx2.435$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"John Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> From: "John Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Need NIC Recommendation for Stock RH5.1
>
> I installed dual NetGear 10/100 PCI cards in three machines under RedHat 5.1
> with no problems. The cards are inexpensive ( ~$25.00 US) and supported
> using the Digital Tulip drivers.
> synthetic wrote in message <7a53cp$767$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>
> I would like to solicit comments on the best NIC(pci) to install in a
> stock RH5.1 box. I am trying to choose between Intel, 3Com, and SMC (unless
> someone knows of any better brand name cards). I would like to use 100m/b
> pci cards to network 2 win98 boxes to a Linux server.
I'll second this. I've NetGear FA310TX 10/100 pci and never had a single problem with
it. Comes with a linux
driver, works `out of the box', fast and reliable.
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From: Jonathan Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 56k modems.
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 23:13:00 -0800
Thanks to everyone who responded to this. I am now up and running on a
Zoom 2919. Got one on sale.
Set the jumpers, boot, setserial in /etc/rc.d/rc.local, reboot and
we're set to go!
> Zoom 2949 external. Best I have tried out of 6 modems. Or a external US
> Robotics.
> Zoom was 84.00 dollars dual mode 56K V90 and Flex
>
> Jonathan Adams wrote:
>
> > Can some one recomend a "hassle free" LINUX compatable 56K modem.
> > Thanks!
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From: Howard Close <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Modem
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 12:25:47 +0000
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I should have added :
Redhat 5.2
linux 2.2.1
mouse /dev/ttyS0 irq4 ) Maybe these irqs are
modem /dev/ttyS1 irq3 ) the other way around
eznet
Howard Close wrote:
> At about the time I discovered the wonders(?) of Linux and
> repartitioned my disk to take both Win/MS and Linux, my old
> 28.8 modem expired and I bought what was described as a
> "Rockwell 56k Modem". It has worked exceptionally well with
> Windoze. As I began to become more acquainted with Linux I
> naturally wanted to access the net via my new OS and become
> less reliant on BillG and began to wade my way through the
> swamp that is lovingly called pppd. After months of trying I
> have failed to connect and despite help from D. Richard Hipp,
> the author of "Eznet" (highly recommended to those equally
> struggling in the swamp - see http://www.hwaci.com/drh/ )
> which has been much appreciated I am still drowning. The idea
> has come to me that this modem is what I have heard described
> as a "Winmodem" i.e. it requires the dreaded MS OS to be
> present to work..
> Can anyone to tell me what tests I can run to test this
> hypothesis ? I thank you all for your help past and present.
> It is wonderful to be a member of this community.
>
> Howard Close
>
> --
> "We may see the small value God has for riches by the people
> he gives them to" Alexander Pope
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gives them to" Alexander Pope
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