Linux-Hardware Digest #486, Volume #14 Fri, 16 Mar 01 02:13:06 EST
Contents:
logitech and others... ("Jessica W.")
Re: Goin Shoppin ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Video Camera w/ DV (Firewire) (Randolph Jones)
Re: Oki 320T & Decwriter printers on RH 6.1 ? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: logitech and others... (Frank Miller)
detecting cache misses on amd ("Denis")
Re: SoundBlaster 128 PCI drivers ? (Dances With Crows)
Re: ATAPI CD-R won't write (Dances With Crows)
Re: detecting cache misses on amd (Robert Redelmeier)
Re: logitech and others... (Juergen Pfann)
Re: Processor ID (Matt Woodyard)
Re: S3 card?? ("Rick Barnds")
Re: What UPSs does RHL7 support out of the box? (Michael Meissner)
Need Help w/ CD-ROM and Hard Drive Jumpers (Cory Phillips)
Re: Tape Drive OnStream ECHO30 Internal IDE. Good Choice? (Joshua Baker-LePain)
Re: IDE->SCSI RAID (Joshua Baker-LePain)
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From: "Jessica W." <"gavrielkay "@ netscape.net>
Subject: logitech and others...
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 00:47:37 GMT
Hi all,
I'm finally preparing to make the move to linux only (SuSE 7.1 distro)
and have discovered some annoying facts about my hardware. It's
ridiculous how many hardware vendors make drivers and software only for
windows. Logitech's website makes it seem like they're proud to be
exclusive. I'm wondering lots if emails flooding in requesting support
for other OSs might sway these companies? Has it been tried? If anyone
thinks it will help, send a note to Logitech and other vendors so they
get reminded that there is money to be made providing hardware to the
non-windows world.
Sorry for the gripe, but I'm overly frustrated right now.
Jessica W.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Goin Shoppin
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 01:22:15 GMT
In comp.os.linux.questions Robert J. Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Don't bother with SCSI. I'll probably get flamed mercilessly for this, but
> UltraDMA/100 is soon coming to Linux, and if there's any significant
> difference performancewise between UDMA/100 and most SCSI cards, I haven't
> been able to see it.
I tend to agree on a single user box. However, I've seen IDE drives
that were just were fast as a SCSI drive for a single user get pounded
into the ground when serving files via NFS to multiple users.
As far as motherboards go, if you are going with an AMD, check out
their web page, they have MB and power supply recommendations. I just
built an 850 MHz Duron using an FIC MB they recommended, and could not
be happier.
--
Jim Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
=================== http://www.buchanan1.net/ ==========================
"A programmer's curriculum was complex, one in a million might fit. A typical
world might need twenty programmers." -Isaac Asimov, _Profession_
================= Visit: http://www.thehungersite.com ==================
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From: Randolph Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Video Camera w/ DV (Firewire)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 09:28:45 -0800
Thomas Harsch wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am just thinking of buying a Videocamera with a DV Out Jack to connect
> to my Notebook (Vaio F709).
> Are there any Cameras known as working with Linux (Debian, Kernel 2.4.2) ?
> I would be glad to get some links to Firewiresupport for Linux.
>
> --
> Thomas Harsch
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> --
> Hi, I'm an email virus. To help me spread, put me in your ~/.signature
> file :-)
http://www.linuxworld.com/linuxworld/expo/lw-thursday-firewire.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Oki 320T & Decwriter printers on RH 6.1 ?
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 01:55:39 GMT
Brian Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does anyone know which printer drivers/filters installed on a typical RH 6.1
> (2.2.12-20 kernel) load
> will support Okidata ML 320T and Decwriter III printers ? Using printtool
> from Gnome
I don't know about the DecWriter, but I assume it also has a Proprinter and
Epson emulation modes, just as the Oki does.. (I recall experiences with
some Decwriters, from quite some time ago, which included both Epson and
Proprinter emulation...)
So, if it is not direxctly supported, one or the other of those should work,
check the configuration of each printer to see what emulation they are
currently running....
Kris
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From: Frank Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: logitech and others...
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 03:34:47 GMT
"Jessica W." wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm finally preparing to make the move to linux only (SuSE 7.1 distro)
> and have discovered some annoying facts about my hardware. It's
> ridiculous how many hardware vendors make drivers and software only for
> windows. Logitech's website makes it seem like they're proud to be
> exclusive. I'm wondering lots if emails flooding in requesting support
> for other OSs might sway these companies? Has it been tried? If anyone
> thinks it will help, send a note to Logitech and other vendors so they
> get reminded that there is money to be made providing hardware to the
> non-windows world.
>
> Sorry for the gripe, but I'm overly frustrated right now.
>
> Jessica W.
This has been Logitech's position for "many" years.
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From: "Denis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware.amd.thunderbird,comp.programming,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: detecting cache misses on amd
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:53:25 -0800
hello,
i apologize if i crossposted to a ng. where this would be off-topic...
can anyone tell me if it is possible, and if it is then, how would one
detect
the number of cache misses between two points in execution of a
program on an amd-k6 processor.... maybe some assembly language
hack? any register i could monitor?
numbers do not have to be very precise, but fairly close.
i looked in amd processor manual, but could not find anything.
i mean, is it even feasible to do such a thing? you'd have to keep a
register just for this.....
thanks.
denis
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: SoundBlaster 128 PCI drivers ?
Date: 16 Mar 2001 04:16:20 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 13 Mar 2001 18:44:51 +0300, Makarov A.N. staggered into the
Black Sun and said:
>Can anyone tell me where i can get Subj for RedHat 7.0 ?
>Chip on the soundcard is CT4810.
Try the es1371 or es1370 modules. If "modprobe es1371" doesn't return
"device or resource busy", that's the module to use. It's strange that
sndconfig didn't recognize the card, though....
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
=============================/ I hit a seg fault....
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: ATAPI CD-R won't write
Date: 16 Mar 2001 04:16:26 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 15 Mar 2001 08:23:35 GMT, Jeffrey Newmiller staggered into the
Black Sun and said:
>I have found a hint on the web that not all is well with ide-scsi and
>newer versions of cdrecord:
>http://groups.google.com/groups?q=cdrecord+ide-scsi+dummy&num=30\
>&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&rnum=10&seld=930816565&ic=1
>
>root@mirimichi:~ > cdrecord -scanbus
>Cdrecord 1.8 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2000 J�rg Schilling
^^^
They're up to 1.9 ... I assume you've tried that?
>Using libscg version 'schily-0.1'
>scsibus1:
> 1,0,0 100) 'SONY ' 'CD-RW CRX100E ' '1.0m' Removable CD-ROM
># the cd spins up, the countdown finishes, and then the cd stops
># spinning and the light goes out, and about 10 seconds later it spits
># out the error.
>root@mirimichi:~ > cdrecord -dummy speed=2 dev=1,0,0 -data /opt/x
A lot of CD-RWs are finicky about speed, and some will merely error out
in dummy mode. Try using the maximum speed the drive is rated for--I
had a Philips drive that would give similar errors if you tried to write
CD-Rs at anything other than its 4x maximum. CD-R blanks are cheap
these days, and if you're afraid of coasters, try this with a CD-RW!
(Still possible to make a coaster, but if you blank it, it's as good as
new...)
>root@mirimichi:~ > lsmod
>Module Size Used by
>sg 15800 0 (autoclean)
>sr_mod 15804 0 (unused)
>ide-scsi 7496 0
>cdrom 27452 0 [sr_mod]
>#note that I have eliminated ide-cd entirely from the kernel...
Good man.
This is a bit weird. I vaguely recall hearing about problems with
certain Sony drives, but not like this. Hard to believe that upgrading
the kernel did this to your drive. Hmm, here's a thought: cdrecord
itself depends on the kernel headers for parts of its functionality.
Did you compile cdrecord from source, pointing it at the kernel headers
of the kernel you're currently using? Try that if you haven't. HTH,
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
=============================/ I hit a seg fault....
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Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 22:27:01 -0600
From: Robert Redelmeier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: detecting cache misses on amd
[Newsgroups trimmed -- my newserver doesn't carry'em]
Denis wrote:
>
> can anyone tell me if it is possible, and if it is then,
> how would one detect the number of cache misses between
> two points in execution of a program on an amd-k6 processor....
> maybe some assembly language hack? any register i could monitor?
Unfortunately, I don't believe the K6-2 contains the MSRs
or PMCs you need. My datasheet had no mention of them
with the other MSRs. Perhaps the K6-2ctx or K6-3 does
have them, though.
OTOH, the AMD K7 (Athlon, T'bird, Duron) _does_ have
what you need. You need to program one or more of
the PerfEvtSel MSRs using `wrmsr` in a module because
it requires Ring0 priviliges. Unless there's some
other MSR interface, like thru /proc . Fortunately once
programmed, you can read it in your userland program
with `rdpmc` as much as you want.
Intel processors have similar facilities.
-- Robert author `cpuburn` http://users.ev1.net/~redelm
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From: Juergen Pfann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: logitech and others...
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 05:35:36 +0100
Frank Miller wrote:
>
> "Jessica W." wrote:
> >
> > I'm finally preparing to make the move to linux only (SuSE 7.1 distro)
> > and have discovered some annoying facts about my hardware. It's
> > ridiculous how many hardware vendors make drivers and software only for
> > windows. Logitech's website makes it seem like they're proud to be
> > exclusive. I'm wondering lots if emails flooding in requesting support
> > for other OSs might sway these companies? Has it been tried? If anyone
> > thinks it will help, send a note to Logitech and other vendors so they
> > get reminded that there is money to be made providing hardware to the
> > non-windows world.
> >
> > Sorry for the gripe, but I'm overly frustrated right now.
> >
> > Jessica W.
> This has been Logitech's position for "many" years.
To be honest, as long as the HW does work without problems in Linux
(which is the case for my Logitech serial mice for "many" years),
I don't really care for that.
Sorry to say, but I do take care for "many" years if any new HW
will work in Linux _before_ buying it, thus simply having no need
to be frustrated...
OTOH, regard the positive aspects, that some companies formerly
also "Micros~-only", such as Creative Labs, changed their minds.
I do have the time to wait for L. to do so as well - till then,
there's no point for me in a boycott of their HW - provided it works.
Just my $.02
Juergen
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Subject: Re: Processor ID
From: Matt Woodyard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 05:43:19 GMT
You can't track the MAC addr anywhere but the local lan segment .
As for being afraid of the software... (insert anti intel spew)
Most hardware vendors don�t supply developers with API's that allow people
to track transactions by hardware part numbers over the internet. That�s
about the last thing we need, next you'll have processor specific liscenses
and "dongling".
On 3/15/01 1:54 PM, in article [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Kasper
Dupont" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> Kasper Dupont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> MAC addresses of ethernet cards on the other
>>> hand are sent over the network every time you
>>> send a packet.
>>
>> No, MAC addresses are sent only over your local
>> network *segment*.
>
> Correct, but that is much longer than the CPUid
> which is not sent anywhere.
>
>>
>>> Can anybody explain WHY people are so unhappy
>>> about the CPUid?
>>
>> One example: web browsers could start sending the id
>> as part of the http protocol which would increase
>> the ability of web sites to track users.
>
> The http protocol does not specify that the
> client sends a CPUid.
>
> Oh sure the browser could send a CPUid to a
> server. But remember that the browser could also
> send your MAC address to the server, together
> with a copy of the 5 last emails you wrote, the
> 10 most frequently used names form your address
> book, a listing of the last 20 transactions from
> your homebanking system, your private RSA key,
> and whatever other information you have stored
> on your computer.
>
> I have never heard about a browser doing any of
> this, and I doubt anybody would be using it if
> it existed.
>
> So if you want to be paranoid look on the
> software instead of some serial number on your
> CPU, there are much worse thing software could
> do.
>
>>
>> --
>> http://www.spinics.net/linux/
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From: "Rick Barnds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: S3 card??
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 06:10:42 GMT
"Tiscalinet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hello all: I'm new to RedHat and I can't seem to get Xconfigurator to make
> my S3 86C365 Trio3D vid card work the way it should. All I can get is
> 480X680 and looks like 'less' than 256 colors. The card does better than
> that in WinMe. I have it set to Generic Multisync monitor (monitor's not
> listed, it's a A Plus Info Corp Digital/Non-Interlaced 14") and it doesn't
> matter which S3 option I set in Xconfigurator I don't get a decent screen.
> Sometimes I get one that's MASSIVE, and can only see just the centre. Most
> of the time it's smaller than the monitor, nice black border all around
the
> image, and 256 colors. I've read the info for XF86Config and I've had a go
> at editing the file but I think I don't understand it well enough. Please
> help.
> Thanks
> Brian
>
>
I'm having the same problem with the Diamond Speedstar A55 (S3 trio3d/2x.) I
get the same problem on 10 different systems that use this card. They are
all different hardware setups. I have one machine that use's the A50 (SiS
6326) and it works just fine. I have been tot he Diamond site and the S3
site and cannot find any linux drivers. Help please!
Thanks
Rick
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Subject: Re: What UPSs does RHL7 support out of the box?
From: Michael Meissner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 16 Mar 2001 01:14:20 -0500
"Me" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Ronald Cole"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have used APC BacK-UPS Pro on redhat and mandrake. Make sure that you
> use the 'gray' cable, and download Powerchute from APC...
> > I've looked at the UPS howto, but it's well over three years old. Surely
> > the state of the art has advanced since then!
> >
> > So, what UPSs does RHL7 support out of the box? /etc/inittab has a
> > blurb about powerd, but I am unable to find an executable called
> > "powerd" on either disc 1 or disc 2.
> >
> > What's the story?
(Note, I'm from the GCC group, not the OS group)
Red Hat 7 has switched to 'nut' (Network UPS Tools) to support UPSes. The
homepage for nut is:
http://www.exploits.org/nut/
There are 3 rpms of interest on the second cd:
nut-0.44.0-4.i386.rpm
nut-client-0.44.0-4.i386.rpm
nut-cgi-0.44.0-4.i386.rpm
--
Michael Meissner, Red Hat, Inc. (GCC group)
PMB 198, 174 Littleton Road #3, Westford, Massachusetts 01886, USA
Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: +1 978-486-9304
Non-work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] fax: +1 978-692-4482
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cory Phillips)
Subject: Need Help w/ CD-ROM and Hard Drive Jumpers
Date: 16 Mar 2001 00:16:34 -0600
I just built my first computer. Unfortunately I can't find my instructions
to my Creative CD-ROM drive, so I'm not sure how to jumper it. I have one
hard drive on port IDE 1 and the drive is configured for Master. How should
my CD-ROM be configured? I tried IDE 2 and jumpered for Slave but it did
work. Any suggestions? I also tried the Creative.com web site, but it
wasn't very helpful.
--
Cory Phillips
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Please send mail in plain text (no HTML mail)
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From: Joshua Baker-LePain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Tape Drive OnStream ECHO30 Internal IDE. Good Choice?
Date: 16 Mar 2001 05:37:59 GMT
Will Sergent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have to make a tape drive recommendation for someone and found this
> drive:
> http://www.onstream.com/desktop/di30_d.html Anyone have experience with
> this drive?
> I checked the kernel docs and their are drivers for it.
> Would this drive make a good choice for once a day backups of only a few
> gigs or so?
I've heard bad things about Onstream's IDE drives. Very bad things.
For backup, go SCSI. The Onstream SCSI models seem to be better.
There's also some nice 8mm units that aren't too pricy.
--
Joshua Baker-LePain
Department of Biomedical Engineering
Duke University
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From: Joshua Baker-LePain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: IDE->SCSI RAID
Date: 16 Mar 2001 05:33:12 GMT
Gunnar Lindholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I would like to know if any body has tried the IDE->SCSI RAID
> things that are produced by infortrend.com or easyraid.com.
Well, I'll be receiving "my" Syneraid 800 within the next week or so.
8 80 GB drives in a RAID 5 means 560GB of usable space on a U2W
host connection. For $6K.
Another group here has a Zero-D system that they like quite a lot.
--
Joshua Baker-LePain
Department of Biomedical Engineering
Duke University
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