Linux-Hardware Digest #532, Volume #14 Tue, 27 Mar 01 03:13:05 EST
Contents:
Re: motherboard Abit VP6 / Dual CPU PIII (jurriaan kalkman)
Rockwell modem on combo card, R3 SND 19 (Sound III 336SP) (Jonadab the Unsightly One)
Re: Any PC manufacturers sell pcs w/all hardware Linux compatible???? (Jonadab the
Unsightly One)
Re: motherboard Abit VP6 / Dual CPU PIII (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?St=E9phan?= Peccini)
Re: ATI Radeon + Linux (Joseph)
Re: How do I change the IRQ for my modem (Nader)
Re: Suse vs RH/Mandrake ? (or what's so great about 7.2) (Matthew Gardiner)
Re: Suse vs RH/Mandrake ? (or what's so great about 7.2) (Matthew Gardiner)
Re: Suse vs RH/Mandrake ? (or what's so great about 7.2) (Matthew Gardiner)
Re: Suse vs RH/Mandrake ? (or what's so great about 7.2) (GreyCloud)
Re: Switchboxes for keyboard, mice, video? (Lew Pitcher)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jurriaan kalkman)
Subject: Re: motherboard Abit VP6 / Dual CPU PIII
Date: 27 Mar 2001 05:33:37 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 26 Mar 2001 23:45:23 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Does anybody succeed to install linux on PC based on motherboard Avit VP6 ?
> Bugs, support for UDMA, USB ?
>
Yes, UDMA on the hpt370-ports works just fine, for some strange reason
my supposedly UDMA66-capable IBM DJNA harddisk only reaches UDMA33 on
the via686b ports. I don't use USB.
No problems whatsoever.
Good luck,
Jurriaan
--
Sir Humphrey: "Well Minister, if you ask me for a straight answer, then I
shall say that, as far as we can see, looking at it by and large, taking
one thing with another in terms of the average of departments, then in
the final analysis it is probably true to say, that at the end of the
day, in general terms, you would probably find that, not to put too fine
a point on it, there probably wasn't very much in it one way or the
other. As far as one can see, at this stage."
Yes Minister
GNU/Linux 2.4.2-ac24 SMP/ReiserFS 2x1743 bogomips load av: 0.02 0.05 0.02
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonadab the Unsightly One)
Subject: Rockwell modem on combo card, R3 SND 19 (Sound III 336SP)
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 05:36:19 GMT
I'm configuring a PC for a friend, and I'm hoping to get the modem
working in Linux. The people in the hardware newsgroup say it's
a hardware modem, but harddrake does not seem to find the modem.
According to Windoze, it's a "Sound III 336SP" modem on COM2 --
that should correspond to /dev/ttyS1, shouldn't it? But when I
try setting up ppp with that serial port during the (Mandrake)
installation process, I get an error message saying that the
computer is not connected to "the network". I'm guessing this
means I need a driver? Or is there a different problem?
Is there a driver for it for Linux? It's a Rockwell chipset;
the big chip reads thusly:
RCV336ACF/SP
R 6749-31
(C) Rockwell 96
9631 B 10200-6
MEXICO
The card is actually a combination sound/modem card that
came in the PC, a Packard Bell Platinum 55. (Yeah, yeah,
it was cheap.) I don't need the sound on the card to work,
because the PC also has a Creative Labs card that was added
by the previous owner. But I would like to get the modem
working, if possible. Should I try different serial ports?
Is the serial port that the card provides maybe not getting
detected properly? Does it matter whether the BIOS thinks
there's a PNP OS installed? I know PCI cards sometimes
work better if you switch which slot they're in; is that
worth trying with an ISA or EISA card?
TIA for any advice,
- jonadab
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonadab the Unsightly One)
Subject: Re: Any PC manufacturers sell pcs w/all hardware Linux compatible????
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 05:43:23 GMT
"John Pfaff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There's eLinux (http://www.elinux.com). I'm sure there are more.
berunner (http://www.berunner.com/) also guarantees that all the
compenents in their PCs are compatible with Linux (as well as
with the BeOS).
- jonadab
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From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?St=E9phan?= Peccini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: motherboard Abit VP6 / Dual CPU PIII
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 07:46:40 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] a �crit :
> Hi,
>
> Does anybody succeed to install linux on PC based on motherboard Avit VP6
> ? Bugs, support for UDMA, USB ?
>
> Thanks for your answers.
> Eric
>
My configuration is :
VP6 with 2xPIII 1000@1073 MHz
RAM 576 Mo
17 Go udma33 on ide0
Tekram DC390 with Yamaha CRW6416, PIONEER DVD-ROM DVD-305, 2x2Go disk
2x40 Go WD Caviar udma100 on htp370 (all partitions type is reiserfs)
Rage Fury 128 for main screen
SB PCI 128
Matrox G200 marvel for acquiring video and secondary screen (on TV)
Realtek 8139 and 8029
Logitech radio mouse on USB
Kodak DC290 on USB
Epson Stylus photo 870 on USB
my base system is RH7.0 but with a lot of modifications. my kernel is
2.4.2, xfree 4.0.3 (from last CVS).
All is working fine under Linux except the hpt370 on-board raid capability.
I use soft raid provided by Linux ; the performance are quite ;-) good
(hdparm -> 45 MB/s)
--
Cordialement
Stephan
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Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 22:49:13 +0000
From: Joseph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ATI Radeon + Linux
as an interim fix RadeonAIW will work with the vesa driver, i use it
with with my irongate/ath-800. i have had mucho problems getting
the X-4.0.2 from XFree86.rog to run. may try sourceforge
1280x1024 24bit color is my usual mode.
Joseph
John Tobin wrote:
>
> Has anyone successfully gotten the Radeon working with X in at least 2D?
> I have an AMD Athlon 650 on the irongate chipset. I just swapped out my
> G400 for the Radeon and installed X 4.02 and the server goes to change
> into SVGA mode and then I get the good ole BSOD. If anyone knows of a
> fix please let me know.
>
> John
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From: Nader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do I change the IRQ for my modem
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 23:07:27 -0800
Follow the advice from Matan! Don't move hardware - you'll be chasing
IRQ changes every time. Kernel 2.2 doesn't support serial port PCI sharing. You
need to upgrade to serial 5.02 or 5.05. If you upgrade to kernel 2.4, it comes
with serial 5.02.
Those who have ACTUALLY experienced the problem you are having know that moving
hardware is unnecessary!!!!
Matan Ziv-Av wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Mar 2001 02:18:06 -0500,
> Blaine Mincey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I am having a problem with my modem. I am unable to get my modem to work
> > correctly because it appears I am having some configurations problems. I am
> > currently running RH 7.0 , kernel 2.2.16-22. I recently installed a US
> > Robotics 56K Performance Pro modem PCI, model 3CP5610A. When I perform
>
> The problem is probably not irq, since there is (almost) no problem with
> PCI devices sharing irq. The problem is that the serial driver of kernel 2.2
> does not support PCI serial ports. Either upgrade to kernel 2.4, or go to
> http://serial.sourceforge.net and follow the instructions.
>
> --
> Matan Ziv-Av. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Suse vs RH/Mandrake ? (or what's so great about 7.2)
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:12:33 +1200
Whats wrong with paying for SuSE Linux? Geeze, what are you? a cheap skate?
no wonder investers are werry about investing in Linux business with lusers
like you too tight to part with $US50.
Also, there is a lot of proprietry software included with SuSE Linux's
Distro, for example, the configuration tool (Yast2 and Yast1) are not open
source, also, there is some other packages that can't be freely distributed.
So, before you open your big gob, survey the situation first.
Matthew Gardiner
John Hong wrote:
> peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> >I've heard great things about the new Suse distro., but I was told by
> >someone that I should use the same distro that I use at work. At work
> >we use Red Hat, at home I just setup Mandrake 7.1, but everyone says
> >the new Suse distro is good and also Mandrake 7.2 is good.
>
> In my opinion, if you are comparing between Red Hat/Mandrake to
> SuSE, stay with Red Hat/Mandrake. SuSE has recently been becoming more of
> a commercial distribution with little willingness to put out any GPL'ed
> versions of their version of Linux. The only ISO they have available for
> anyone to download is a live evaluation one, meaning, you boot into Linux
> from the CDROM, but you can't actually install it into your computer.
> That is not to say that it is a bad distribution, it is in fact
> quite good. However, Red Hat and Mandrake both still release GPL'ed
> versions of their distributions that one can install into their machines.
> If you are already familiar with Red Hat/Mandrake, then there is little
> reason to go with SuSE.
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From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Suse vs RH/Mandrake ? (or what's so great about 7.2)
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:19:56 +1200
The keywords I like are, "personal preferance", when was the last time a Windows user
can configure a computer down at such a low level? probably never.
Matthew Gardiner
Tim Hanson wrote:
> Dances With Crows wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 26 Mar 2001 23:05:38 GMT, Chad Everett staggered into the Black
> > Sun and said:
> > >On Mon, 26 Mar 2001 22:57:07 GMT, Darin Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>"Mart van de Wege" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >>
> > >>> weird filesystem layout (come on,
> > >>> init files in /sbin?!)
> > >>
> > >>Hmm, I don't recall this in 7.1. The layout was different from
> > >>RedHat and RedHat clones, but not unusual or confusing. Init files
> > >>could be found under the /etc hierarchy (perhaps via links?).
> > >
> > >Nope. In SuSE 7.1 all init scripts are in /etc/init.d and turned
> > >on or off and configured in /etc/rc.config. Don't see any init
> > >scripts in /sbin on my SuSE 7.1
> >
> > FWIW, the original rationale for the scripts being in /sbin/init.d/ was
> > that the FHS said "executables do not belong in /etc." However, SuSE
> > 6.1 .. 7.0 all have symlinks pointing to /sbin/init.d/ from /etc/rc.d/.
> > I prefer having them in /sbin/init.d/ instead of in /etc/rc.d/init.d/
> > because the /sbin/ path has fewer characters in it, making it quicker to
> > type on the command line. But it's really a matter of personal
> > preference.
>
> I'll bet the Windows Weenies are really glazing over here. :-)
>
> > The "incompatible RPM layout" has only caused me problems when
> > trying to install large things like GNOME or KDE2 from non-SuSE RPMs.
> > This is not a particularly good thing; I think all the folks who make
> > distros that use RPM should get together and decide on a standard naming
> > convention/filesystem layout, but that's never gonna happen :-[ .
> > Hmmph, long live tarballs....
> >
> > --
> > Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
> > Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
> > http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
> > -----------------------------/ I hit a seg fault....
>
> --
> The only really good place to buy lumber is at a store where the lumber
> has already been cut and attached together in the form of furniture,
> finished, and put inside boxes.
> -- Dave Barry, "The Taming of the Screw"
>
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From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Suse vs RH/Mandrake ? (or what's so great about 7.2)
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:31:49 +1200
Whats wrong with StarOffice? even though alot of people dish-it, it is the
only Office Suite that is one more than one platform, and that, all of them
are at the same level of compatibility and features. As for all the
complaints, I use StarOffice on a regular basis, and find nothing wrong with
it. Compared to Office 2000, I would use StarOffice any day of the week.
Atleast there are no macro virus's for StarOffice, security holes, forced
registration, it is very stable (unlike Office 2000). NOW, if Lotus released
Smart Suite for Linux, I would definately buy it, as I have Lotus Smart Suite
loaded on my other b0x (Windows 2000 Pro, Duron 850 w/ 64 MB RAM), it works
like a dream. Its rather unfortunate that Lotus is too short sighted, as
they would make a killing if it was made available for Linux.
Matthew Gardiner
GreyCloud wrote:
> Tim Hanson wrote:
> >
> > I am an enthusiastic SuSE user, although I make no money off SuSE. Add
> > salt to taste.
> >
> > peter wrote:
> > >
> > > I've heard great things about the new Suse distro,
> >
> > That is correct. It is quite an advance and will be hard to compete
> > against, especially for getting new users to try Linux. For me, as a
> > user since 5.1, it is just an upgrade, although this time I bought a DVD
> > player so the update went much faster. The books alone are worth the
> > price.
> >
> > > but I was told by
> > > someone that I should use the same distro that I use at work.
> >
> > There will be some differences and some similarities. Linus Torvalds
> > has said he uses Red Hat at work (Transmeta) and SuSE at home. I don't
> > know if that's still true or not.
> >
> > Generally, there will be a slight but not overpowering learning curve.
> > Both are rpm-type systems. SuSE uses one big /etc/rc.config file. SuSE
> > has gotten more KDE-centric over the last year, although GNOME is
> > up-to-date and available on the disk. For myself, old dog that I am, I
> > still use FVWM2, although I like and use a lot of the GNOME
> > applications.
> >
> > I have a copy of Debian on one of my computers, which was a little more
> > difficult.
> >
> > > At work
> > > we use Red Hat, at home I just setup Mandrake 7.1, but everyone says
> > > the new Suse distro is good and also Mandrake 7.2 is good.
> >
> > I think both are iterations of the 2.4 kernel.
> >
> > SuSE's advantage is raw bang for the buck and lately add ease of
> > installation for newbies. The Professional Edition has seven packed CDs
> > or one DVD (all supplied). Through YaST you can add and subtract
> > packages without worrying about dependencies and conflicts. For me that
> > has meant the ability to just leave the DVD in the drive permanently and
> > install things when needed. For someone with a modem connection, all
> > those packages locally will save a _lot_ of download time.
> >
> > > What are the differences of these distros and versions ?
> > >
> > > Is there a different file structure or something different in each
> > > distro that will mess up my learning curve ?
> >
> > I don't know about the other distros, but with SuSE you can get a
> > running system going now and worry about the learning curve later.
> >
> > >
> > > Is the new software in mandrake 7.2 (or Suse) all that ?
> > >
> > > Which is faster, I've got a few older machine I would like to install
> > > Linux on (P166/32 megs, etc) ?
> >
> > I don't think it matters that much. All three of these use mostly the
> > same stuff. I think Star Office is a lost cause. :-)
> >
> > >
> > > Thanks
> >
> > --
> > Show respect for age. Drink good Scotch for a change.
> >
> >
> Good scotch,... yes.
>
> I used to have Star Office 5.1 installed, but didn't like it.
> Sun has since taken over Star Office and it is now 5.2. I don't have it
> but I hear its a big improvement. And Sun offers it either as a free
> download or buy the CD. Suns' people are now in progress of
> implementing a better interface for it as i've been told. But I can't
> give any usability reports on it. Maybe someone else who has 5.2 can
> relate?
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Suse vs RH/Mandrake ? (or what's so great about 7.2)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 23:51:43 -0800
Matthew Gardiner wrote:
>
> Whats wrong with StarOffice? even though alot of people dish-it, it is the
> only Office Suite that is one more than one platform, and that, all of them
> are at the same level of compatibility and features. As for all the
> complaints, I use StarOffice on a regular basis, and find nothing wrong with
> it. Compared to Office 2000, I would use StarOffice any day of the week.
> Atleast there are no macro virus's for StarOffice, security holes, forced
> registration, it is very stable (unlike Office 2000). NOW, if Lotus released
> Smart Suite for Linux, I would definately buy it, as I have Lotus Smart Suite
> loaded on my other b0x (Windows 2000 Pro, Duron 850 w/ 64 MB RAM), it works
> like a dream. Its rather unfortunate that Lotus is too short sighted, as
> they would make a killing if it was made available for Linux.
>
> Matthew Gardiner
>
Aye! I've got Lotus Smart Suite also and came bundled with my IBM. Very
Good package.
The one program I really like is the Day Planner. Yes, it would be
nice... hmmmmm....
I wonder, since IBM is supporting Linux and pretty much supports Lotus
and the $2billion investments, do you suppose that that is happening???
> GreyCloud wrote:
>
> > Tim Hanson wrote:
> > >
> > > I am an enthusiastic SuSE user, although I make no money off SuSE. Add
> > > salt to taste.
> > >
> > > peter wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I've heard great things about the new Suse distro,
> > >
> > > That is correct. It is quite an advance and will be hard to compete
> > > against, especially for getting new users to try Linux. For me, as a
> > > user since 5.1, it is just an upgrade, although this time I bought a DVD
> > > player so the update went much faster. The books alone are worth the
> > > price.
> > >
> > > > but I was told by
> > > > someone that I should use the same distro that I use at work.
> > >
> > > There will be some differences and some similarities. Linus Torvalds
> > > has said he uses Red Hat at work (Transmeta) and SuSE at home. I don't
> > > know if that's still true or not.
> > >
> > > Generally, there will be a slight but not overpowering learning curve.
> > > Both are rpm-type systems. SuSE uses one big /etc/rc.config file. SuSE
> > > has gotten more KDE-centric over the last year, although GNOME is
> > > up-to-date and available on the disk. For myself, old dog that I am, I
> > > still use FVWM2, although I like and use a lot of the GNOME
> > > applications.
> > >
> > > I have a copy of Debian on one of my computers, which was a little more
> > > difficult.
> > >
> > > > At work
> > > > we use Red Hat, at home I just setup Mandrake 7.1, but everyone says
> > > > the new Suse distro is good and also Mandrake 7.2 is good.
> > >
> > > I think both are iterations of the 2.4 kernel.
> > >
> > > SuSE's advantage is raw bang for the buck and lately add ease of
> > > installation for newbies. The Professional Edition has seven packed CDs
> > > or one DVD (all supplied). Through YaST you can add and subtract
> > > packages without worrying about dependencies and conflicts. For me that
> > > has meant the ability to just leave the DVD in the drive permanently and
> > > install things when needed. For someone with a modem connection, all
> > > those packages locally will save a _lot_ of download time.
> > >
> > > > What are the differences of these distros and versions ?
> > > >
> > > > Is there a different file structure or something different in each
> > > > distro that will mess up my learning curve ?
> > >
> > > I don't know about the other distros, but with SuSE you can get a
> > > running system going now and worry about the learning curve later.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Is the new software in mandrake 7.2 (or Suse) all that ?
> > > >
> > > > Which is faster, I've got a few older machine I would like to install
> > > > Linux on (P166/32 megs, etc) ?
> > >
> > > I don't think it matters that much. All three of these use mostly the
> > > same stuff. I think Star Office is a lost cause. :-)
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > >
> > > --
> > > Show respect for age. Drink good Scotch for a change.
> > >
> > >
> > Good scotch,... yes.
> >
> > I used to have Star Office 5.1 installed, but didn't like it.
> > Sun has since taken over Star Office and it is now 5.2. I don't have it
> > but I hear its a big improvement. And Sun offers it either as a free
> > download or buy the CD. Suns' people are now in progress of
> > implementing a better interface for it as i've been told. But I can't
> > give any usability reports on it. Maybe someone else who has 5.2 can
> > relate?
--
V
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From: Lew Pitcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips
Subject: Re: Switchboxes for keyboard, mice, video?
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 20:44:32 -0500
"B.Y." wrote:
>
> Dear People:
>
> I have several machines and a shortage of space for keyboard,
> mice and so on. I would also like to use the same monitor for more
> than one machine. Can I use the same set for both machines through a
> switch-box that I see sold in computer stores, one that has mice/KB/
> video forking switches? My concern is that while I understand video
> connectors to be relatively benign as far as being unplugged "hot" is
> concerned, I have heard that hot-unplugging PS/2 peripherals can and
> have been known to cause catastrophic failures.
FWIW, I can attest to 'catastrophic failures' in hot-plugging PS/2 mice.
On the mobo of the IBM machines at my work, IBM shared some power and
signal lines between the PS/2 mouse port and the keyboard port. The
manuals insist that you power down before unplugging the mouse or
keyboard, but I neglected to do that one day, and fried the mobo circuit
that runs both. IBM replaced the mobo (under warrantee, thank goodness),
and I didn't do that again.
> Note that this is a
> mechanical switch, not an electronic one ...
>
> -- B.Y.
--
Lew Pitcher
Master Codewright and JOAT-in-training
Registered Linux User #112576
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