Linux-Hardware Digest #660, Volume #14 Sat, 21 Apr 01 03:13:06 EDT
Contents:
Re: A Linux emulator for Linux, does this exist? (Jonadab the Unsightly One)
Help with RH7 cannot detect USR/3com ISA 56k modem model 005687-03 ("Josue Silverio")
Re: LS120 (Juergen Pfann)
Help with RH7.0 did not detect USRobotics/3com 56k model 005687-03 (silveraxe)
Re: Via82c driver for sound ("Richard A. Bilonick")
Re: Microsoft gets hard ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Microsoft gets hard ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Microsoft gets hard ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Microsoft gets hard ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonadab the Unsightly One)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: A Linux emulator for Linux, does this exist?
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 05:31:10 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mario Klebsch) wrote:
> What about hot-swappable programs?
That leads me to a feature I've been thinking about that I'd
like to have...
At some kind of signal from the user, the kernel writes
the entire contents of RAM, plus the CPU registers and
any other relevant data, to a big file on disk, saves
a pointer to this so that it'll see it at boot time,
and then just powers down.
Next boot time, it sees that flag file, loads the big
file off the disk to RAM, restores everything, and
picks up right where it left off, in the middle of
whatever it was doing.
A few things wouldn't work properly when restored,
most notably apps that rely on the outside world
(like internet stuff), printing that's in progress,
and anything that earns its living paying very close
attention to the time of day. Some kinds of external
devices might also have issues.
But most things should be just fine. And it would
be an *extremely* handy feature. You could get to
the other OS for a while, or turn the computer off
and unplug it for an electrical storm, or move
across state lines, or whatever, without having
to finish up all your open tasks.
Okay, I know it would be a lot of work to implement,
so I'm going to go hide now...
- jonadab
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Josue Silverio")
Subject: Help with RH7 cannot detect USR/3com ISA 56k modem model 005687-03
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 06:09:04 +0000 (UTC)
<html><DIV>I would appreciate your help for this newbie, and remember if i need to
edit something please let know how to do that too. And this is an ISA modem it
is installed in an ISA plug, this is not winmodem or PCI.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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From: Juergen Pfann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LS120
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 08:04:21 +0200
Martha H Adams wrote:
>
> (...)
> *Also* these disks were sold formatted to four 32 MB msdos partitions,
> which is hardly appropriate to today's world. But you can do something
> about that. First, install your LS120 drive in the (linux) hdab, hdac,
> or hdad position. Then cat zeroes into it, fill it up with zeroes:
>
Wouldn't these 4 partitions (e.g. on the primary slave IDE port)
be called /dev/hdb1.../dev/hdb4 ?
> cat /dev/zero > /dev/hdax
>
Can't you treat the LS-120 media as (small, but removable) IDE
"hard disks" - i.e. just use fdisk to partition them ?
> (...Explanation of mkfs and mount)
OK, Martha, I do know these issues, using Linux since Spring '95
or so...thanks anyway.
>
> *However,* I'm not sure it makes sense any more to use LS120 disks, when
> you can buy a CD-RW drive for as low as $80 (seen this week in Micro
> Center in Cambridge MA).
I guess, you're right about this point for most of us. And, for my 4
private boxes, I've already got an older 4xCD-R and a 12/4/32 CD-RW,
I use mainly to get direct access to some downloaded stuff etc. -
things that don't need to occupy HD space *all* of the time.
And, besides that, I do _real_ backup with tape drives (DDS-3, DDS-1
and an old TR-1 floppy tape). So you see, I've already got enough
removable media/drives.
But, as said in my other posting, I'm always curious to get
experience with different HW; my questions about the LS-120,
particularly, are such like : is it possible to boot from that,
using 1.44 MB floppies or 120MB media ? is the drive more than a
hard disk to the system, or more like a floppy ? - and so on...
This would be some luxury to check that out, not really anything
I need badly.
OTOH, perhaps, 2 of the 4 systems supporting SCSI, a MO disk drive
or even DVD-RAM might be much more useful than that, anyway -
but that's another pricing region, I'm afraid.
> (...)
> Just remember, when you cat those zeroes into your LS120 drive, to
> make quadruple damned sure *that's where you send them.*
>
<*bg*>
> Cheers -- Martha Adams
Many thanks for your hints, Martha !
Well, maybe really no need to waste 50, 60 bucks just for
curiosity...
Juergen
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From: silveraxe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help with RH7.0 did not detect USRobotics/3com 56k model 005687-03
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 06:30:03 -0000
I would appreciate your help to this newbie who is given linux a try.
Thanks
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From: "Richard A. Bilonick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Via82c driver for sound
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 06:31:03 GMT
Peter,
This guide made it simple to install alsa for the via chipset. It works
great even though I'm using the older stable version. Thanks!
Rick Bilonick
Peter Christy wrote:
> Tha ALSA drivers work well - I'm using the 0.9.0beta3 drivers very
> successfully. There is a good guide to installing these on
> www.linuxnewbie.org
>
> --
> Pete
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.arch,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft gets hard
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 03:03:37 -0400
JS PL wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>
> > I'm a clean-cut, professionally dressed soldier....
>
> who uses Windows98 at all times.....
Look, Martha...he *still* can't see through the camo...
>
> > > in their parents basements vs MS associated with the largest businesses
> in
>
> > ...who moved out of the house at age 17....
>
> at the request of my family....
I don't recall your family having any influence on my decision.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
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K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.arch,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft gets hard
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 03:06:47 -0400
Matthew Gardiner wrote:
>
> Bernd Paysan wrote:
> >
> > > > Interesting... so given that linux is associated with dirty haired hippies
> > >
> > > I'm a clean-cut, professionally dressed soldier....
> > >
> > > > in their parents basements vs MS associated with the largest businesses in
> > >
> > > ...who moved out of the house at age 17....
> >
> > Ah, and the photo of micro-soft in the early days looks like 80% of the
> > employees are hairy hippies, except a few people like Ballmer, who have
> > difficulties to grow their hair at all.
> >
> Steve Balmer didn't join Microsoft until much later, until then he
> worked for the likes of Unilever.
> Its rather funny that when all else fails, a wintroll will start
> personal insults. At least I can tollerate people with different views.
> For example, I don't agree fully with RMS, however, I respect him even
> though I may disagree. Its quite humorous that Eric and co. resort to
> using the lowest common denominator in society as the bench mark for
> which Linux should be aiming for. When Linux fails on a weird
> configured machine, with obscure pieces of hardware, some how Linux has
> failed. What Eric and co. don't relise is that 99% of drivers in the
> linux kernel are written by volunteers, in fact, you may actually find
> their could be some ex-microsoft employees who left because of Bill
> Gates idiocy. What makes Linux great in the diversity of ideas, when
> compared to Microsoft developers which have a one track mind and never
> think out side the square. The arrogance displayed as such that they
> never acknowledge that many of Windows 2000 features have be derived
> from UNIX. The deny the existance of better OS's to the nth degree.
> Had Microsoft acknowledged that these OS's do have some great features,
> and then incorporated into the OS, whilst acknowledging the original
> authors, maybe then you will find that Microsoft software will increase
> in quality.
>
Eventually, after fucking things up 17 different ways, they eventually
steal the Unix source code, and put it in their OS.
Microsoft adds a whole new meaning to the phrase "not invented here"
> Matthew Gardiner
>
> --
> I am the resident BOFH (Bastard Operator From Hell)
>
> If you don't like it, you can go [# rm -rf /home/luser] yourself
>
> Running SuSE Linux 7.1
>
> The best of German engineering, now in software form
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.arch,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft gets hard
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 03:07:54 -0400
Bob Hauck wrote:
>
> On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 22:54:37 +1200, Matthew Gardiner
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Steve Balmer didn't join Microsoft until much later, until then he
> > worked for the likes of Unilever.
>
> Ballmer has been with MS at least since the beginning of the DOS era.
> No, he wasn't around when Gates and Allen were selling BASIC for the
> Altair, but he's not exactly a recent acquisition.
>
> > Had Microsoft acknowledged that these OS's do have some great features,
> > and then incorporated into the OS, whilst acknowledging the original
> > authors, maybe then you will find that Microsoft software will increase
> > in quality.
>
> I agree that the way MS pretends to be innovative, while in fact they
> are merely re-implementing other people's ideas, is one of the most
> annoying characteristics of the company.
I wonder if the Federal Trade Commission could be called in to police
their advertisements for these blatant lies.
>
> --
> -| Bob Hauck
> -| Codem Systems, Inc.
> -| http://www.codem.com/
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.arch,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft gets hard
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 03:09:42 -0400
Jon Johansan wrote:
>
> "Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Jan Johanson wrote:
> > >
> > > "Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > <snype>
> > > > > I do things which truly astound and bill for it.
> > > >
> > > > Admin NT servers, the most astound things? my guess, getting them to
> > > > stay up for longer than one week whilst maintaining the same
> throughput.
> > > >
> > > > Answer the question sonny. Until you start admining s/900z, s/390, and
> > > > clusters of UNIX servers, I suggest that you should keep your trap
> shut.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Now that is funny - I love it when the best come back a unix-nut has is:
> > > until you've suffered as I've suffered and continue to suffer you are
> > > nothing. The fact you can do what I can do in 1/4 the time with 1/8th
> the
> > > effort means you _obviously_ must be an idiot and I am a genius for
> slaving
> > > away working on much bigger and more compliated proprietary hardware.
> > >
> > > as if run time had anything to do with throughput - silly...
> > Nope, I can just setup a server and mainframe and it just keeps on
> > work'in, where as the poor o'l NT admin is praying that the server wont
> > suddenly in the middle of the night crash because of a minor issue. I
> > can get things done 3 times faster in that I don't need to keep hanging
> > around making sure the darn thing doesn't crash. With UNIX, you setup,
> > test, they fuck off home in the knowledge that it will just keep on
> > work'in.
> >
>
> My experiences competely disagree with yours. I run Ghost and install from
> an image onto a new hardrive. W2K boots up, detects all the hardware and
> uses DHCP to get on the net. I change the machine name and on it goes. Then
> it runs and runs and runs... 99.99% uptime is effortless and considered our
> norm. Much more commonly the ONLY reboots occur for hardware related issues
> or hotfixes that require a (planned) reboot. We've never had a W2K crash.
In how many *months* compared to YEARS of solid unix performance, going back
to before Microsoft even had an OS, let alone the parade of crash-happy
versions of DOS and Windows.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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