Linux-Hardware Digest #705, Volume #14 Mon, 30 Apr 01 03:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: Could Linux be used in this factory environment ? (hac)
Re: About to buy Abit KT7A Raid system - any Linux 2.4 problems? (Joel Comeaux)
Re: Which adaptor card to buy for simple 2-PC home network? (Mitch Foxworth)
Abit KT7A: how to setup the PC133 RAM? (Joel Comeaux)
Re: Linux on Compaq Prolinea ?? (Mike & Terri)
Re: AMD cpus, linux and die temp reading --> idle state ("Bobby D. Bryant")
Re: Microsoft Sidewinder Gamepad Setup - Mandrake 8.0 (mrsmith)
Re: Flat panel (TFT/LCD) with Linux anyone? (Norman Levin)
Promise Ultra100 Ide Controller and Caldera EDesktop 2.4 ("Wm. G. McGrath")
Re: Samba - nmbd (Leon Garde)
Re: Hot-swapping IDE drives (Leon Garde)
Re: Could Linux be used in this factory environment ? ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Question on Nvidia drivers with Suse 7.0 ("me")
problem with chipset i850 and IRQ ("Alain Houelle")
need to get new kernel sources? ("me")
Re: Serial port problems (Nader)
Re: Modems HELP (Nader)
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From: hac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Could Linux be used in this factory environment ?
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 01:21:00 GMT
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>
> "Jonadab the Unsightly One" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > > That's silly. All you need is to queue the upgrade to
> > > > any given page until nobody's looking at it.
> > >
> > > And you magically know when nobody is looking at it, how?
> >
> > The OS should know that.
>
> It should? I didn't realize they had optical sensors that allowed the
> terminals to notice when someone was looking at the terminal or not.
>
Even an idiot should realize that no one is looking at a page that
isn't displayed. Ergo, pages not displayed may be updated. Which is
what he clearly intended to convey, before you went out of your way to
be obtuse and argumentative. Unless, of course, you really are that
stupid. You seem bent on convincing everyone that you are.
--
Howard Christeller Irvine, CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Joel Comeaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: About to buy Abit KT7A Raid system - any Linux 2.4 problems?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 20:56:31 -0500
Garry Heaton wrote:
> I'm about to buy a system with an Abit KT7A Raid FB 266Mhz motherboard.
> Are there any known problems running Linux 2.4 kernel (Mandrake 8.0)? If
> so, please advise on a more compatible motherboard. Thanks.
>
> Garry Heaton
>
>
>
>
Garry,
I just put together a KT7A, sans the RAID......which, not surprisingly,
works perfectly. They use the same chipsets, so I'm certain everything
except the raid will work.......
Joel
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From: Mitch Foxworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Which adaptor card to buy for simple 2-PC home network?
Date: 30 Apr 2001 01:53:34 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I've been really happy with the 3Com cards I have, 3c900B and
3c905B...supported in the kernel since time immemorial, rock solid,
available in both ISA and PCI flavors, and common as dirt (so can often be
found used for <$10). These are advertised as "Etherlink XL" or "Fast
Etherlink XL."
cheers,
Mitch
Garry Heaton wrote:
> Can anyone advise me or point me to information on purchasing a pair of
> Linux 2.4 compatible network cards to create a simple 2-PC desktop
> network? Thanks
>
> Garry Heaton
>
>
>
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From: Joel Comeaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Abit KT7A: how to setup the PC133 RAM?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 21:12:45 -0500
Hi all,
Sure could use a little help here; In the BIOS setting of the KT7A (or I
think any via kt133 chipset?) - in order for windows to recognize the RAM
as PC133 you have to change the Dram clock for "CLK" to "PCI+HCLK" or
somesuch....don't remember exactly.
Well.....I remove that windows software from my system....tried installing
slackware, and had some major problems....kept crashing. I kindof figured
it was the memory setting - so I changed it back to the default setting of
"CLK".
So....is there any way to get the PC133 to do it's stuff under linux?
Or....did I maybe get some crappy RAM? The dealer said that it was micron,
CAS2....hmmm....i dunno though...didn't see "Micron" any where on any label.
Oh....I'm using a Duron 750MHz, and I just use the standard cpu speed
setting in the soft menu bios setting...i.e., I don't enter in any
multipliers or bus speeds....should I?
Thanks in advance,
Joel Comeaux
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From: Mike & Terri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux on Compaq Prolinea ??
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 22:51:39 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
bowman wrote:
> "Mike & Terri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > The hard drive was setup on another system and dropped in here.
The hard drive was setup with RH 6.2 on another basic system, and then dropped
into this Compaq as it was a stripped box ( just a floppy ). The drive has
only had RH on it.
The system is not recognizing any cards ( I should say NIC'S ) PCI or ISA I
have tried a WD (jumper type ISA card, don't "think" PNP would stop this from
being seen) and 2 PCI cards, these cards were tested / used / working on RH.
This is why I posted here as I have never run into this problem before, but
have never used a Compaq Prolinea before either.
I have actually done quite a bit of reading, and visits to Compaq's web site
also.
> Was the other system a MSWindows box? Go into the BIOS (hit F10 during
> startup on this model, iirc) and turn off Plug and Play and allow the BIOS
> to determine the IO address and IRQ's. There are some pretty good HOW-TO's
> for PnP and PCI. You've read these?
Thanks for your comments..
Mike
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From: "Bobby D. Bryant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: AMD cpus, linux and die temp reading --> idle state
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 21:40:08 +0600
lino wrote:
> System: Abit KT7A-RAID, Athlon TB 900, 256 MB ram, Linux 2.2.17 and
> 2.4.2, Mandrake 7.2.
> ...
> Under Linux, whatever I do (with both the kernels and with a load of
> zero% (no running program)), the CPU temp goes to 45C and stops there!
> I've tried to insert the apm support with the idle calls abilied in the=
> kernel, but the CPU temp is always that of a system working at 100%.
> With kernel 2.4.2 the process "kapm-idled" (pid=3D3) uses 60% CPU.
>
> Is this a know bug? Is this a bug at all? Any solution to put the CPU
> in a real idle state?
This won't help you much, but "No, it shouldn't do that."
I also run a T-Bird, and I see a swing of around 15=B0 C between idle and=
full crunch.
Per your other post, I'm not sure whether kapm-idled is really eating CPU=
time or not. Use a search engine to find a thread in the kernel mailing
list archive with the subject line "kapm-idled : is this a bug?" from las=
t
December, and read what it says. (However, that was with respect to 2.4.=
0,
and things might have changed for 2.4.2. Also, I'm on 2.4.4 now, so
comparing what I see to what you see has limited value.)
However, your temperatures seem to indicate that something really is
keeping the CPU from halting, so you should review your .config and APM
settings to make sure everything is set right. I won't be much help on
that, but I did want to let you know that you shouldn't be running hot al=
l
the time.
Good luck,
Bobby Bryant
Austin, Texas
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From: mrsmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft Sidewinder Gamepad Setup - Mandrake 8.0
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 23:03:57 -0500
On 30 Apr 2001 01:01:06 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
wrote:
>>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "mrsmith"
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> 1. /sbin/lsmod (no listing for joystick)
>>> 2. /sbin/modprobe joydev
>>> 3. /sbin/modprobe sidewinder
>>> 4. /sbin/lsmod (entries are now there for "sidewinder", "gameport", and
>>> joydev.
>>>
>>> I cannot run the "jscal" or "jstest" programs because they apparently
>>> are not on my system. So, when I go to a game, Rocks and Diamonds for
>>> example, and try to use the joystick, it does not work.
>>> My question is, what am I missing in getting this to work?
>>>
>Is this a USB joystick, or one with the old 15-pin connector, or what?
This is a 15 pin Sidewinder plugged into the gameport of an onboard
ES-Solo1 chipset.
>You are running the 2.4.x kernel (a fact which you should've mentioned)
>but anyway,
Sorry, it is the 2.4 kernel.
> If this is a 15-pinner, you need to make sure that the soundcard module
>was loaded with joystick support (I use "modprobe es1371 joystick=0x200")
Using the system information applet from the KDE desktop, under I/O
ports (I believe) it shows the gameport as being detected.
>and you need to load the "ns558" module.
When I do this, I get the usual error message advising this module
can't be loaded and possible standard reasons why.
I hope this additional information is helpful. I would like to make
this work.
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Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 20:47:19 -0500
From: Norman Levin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Flat panel (TFT/LCD) with Linux anyone?
e_buy wrote:
>
> Yes of course , I have Redhat 7.0 on a IBM 300PL (Number Nine SR9/Savage4 video
>chipset ) & IBM 17" FlatPanel ....
** what server are you using? I ran into this model last week and the svga
set up looked good, until I moved a window or xterm. Screen broke up all over
the place. I finally had to use the frame buffer server. Worked fine.
Norman Levin
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From: "Wm. G. McGrath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Promise Ultra100 Ide Controller and Caldera EDesktop 2.4
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 04:27:16 GMT
Howdy all,
I wonder if anyone can provide any assistance regarding the
installation of the Promise Ultra100 ide controller under Caldera
eDesktop 2.4?
I've Googled the net and there isn't much info. Promise is of no use
and the Ultra100 isn't listed under the Hardware Compatability List.
Anyone else gotten this controller to work?
Any and all assistance appreciated.
bill
--
Knowledge shared is knowledge squared.
Hence the power of Linux.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leon Garde)
Subject: Re: Samba - nmbd
Date: 30 Apr 2001 04:49:59 GMT
bgfgf (gfgfgf) wrote:
: Please help-me
: I have the CL 6.0 linux and whem i go to samba status appears the mensage:
: smb running
: nmbd not running
: so i restart de samba and not happens... the clients ( win98) can't do the
: logon in the linux server? It's because this?
: The clients are in samba password list and unix password list!!!
: Can somebody help-me please!!1 it's urgent
no.
wrong group
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leon Garde)
Subject: Re: Hot-swapping IDE drives
Date: 30 Apr 2001 04:54:26 GMT
Mitch Foxworth ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Halloo all,
: I have 2 hard-drives that I have installed in removable hard-drive racks,
: and want to be able to hot-swap them while my SuSE 7.1 system is running.
: Assuming I umount the filesystems that the drives are mounted in before
: removing the drive, can anyone think of any problems that might be caused
: because of this? Any advice would be appreciated.
if the drivers are slave or master to something they may interrupt
the system.
and they have to be exactly the same drives.
because the linux kernel wont know you have swapped them.
you could boot up with the small one in place
but then the large one would shrink to small one's size.
and you have to run "sync" between unmounting the filesystem
and removing the drive.
otherwise the circuits are pretty tough.
but there is a small danger you blow something up still.
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From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Could Linux be used in this factory environment ?
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 00:38:24 -0500
"hac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> >
> > "Jonadab the Unsightly One" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > > That's silly. All you need is to queue the upgrade to
> > > > > any given page until nobody's looking at it.
> > > >
> > > > And you magically know when nobody is looking at it, how?
> > >
> > > The OS should know that.
> >
> > It should? I didn't realize they had optical sensors that allowed the
> > terminals to notice when someone was looking at the terminal or not.
> >
> Even an idiot should realize that no one is looking at a page that
> isn't displayed. Ergo, pages not displayed may be updated. Which is
> what he clearly intended to convey, before you went out of your way to
> be obtuse and argumentative. Unless, of course, you really are that
> stupid. You seem bent on convincing everyone that you are.
How exactly do you "update the page" of a standalone application?
His argument was about how a single app on a server accessed by terminals is
easier to maintain than an HTML based system.
My argument is that yes, you can update the exe in one fell swoop, but
getting every terminal to be using that updated exe is not quite so easy in
a 24x7 environment because you can't just kill the app because it might be
in use.
I still don't understand what you or he are trying to say exactly, since you
can't update a "page" in a standalone exe.
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From: "me" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.suse
Subject: Question on Nvidia drivers with Suse 7.0
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 05:47:59 GMT
My Config:
Suse 7.0 Pro
2.2.16
Geforce 2 GTS video card
Xfree86 4.0.2
Latest Nvidia driver for Linux loaded off of Nvidia's site.
When I try to run startx all I get is a black screen and I have to
Ctrl-Alt-F1 out. When I look at the log I see the last line is something
like "Write-combining range" with some memory addresses. If I try the "nv"
driver that comes with Suse, no problem starting. However if I try the
nvidia one (I change the driver name to "nvidia" in my config file) no go.
I've configured everything according to the installation from NVidia and
Tom's hardware. I've tryed disabling AGP (I can verify via the log that it
disables it) to see if that was the problem as well.
One question I have is that I downloaded a kernel from Suse's site
(k_eide.rpm) that specifically was for issues with the Promise EIDE
controller I have onboard and Nvidia Geforce cards. I booted (via a boot
image) and went thru the install. Since with Geforce2 cards YAST2 is not
possible I used YAST. Cause I am new to Linux I performed the following
after the install (I guess redundant)
rpm -ihv --force --nodeps k_eide.rpm
mk_initrd
lilo -v
This was in Suse's instructions for a post install kernel update I think.
Anyway my point is if I update the kernel with a boot image and via rpm, are
the correct sources installed? (I installed the source package that comes
with Suse in the install) I'm wondering because I have to make sure I
compiled the Nvidia driver with the right sources. Are the original sources
valid for the same kernel version with patches I guess?
In the end I need to get past the "Write-combining range" part of startx.
Thanks.
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From: "Alain Houelle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: problem with chipset i850 and IRQ
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 08:39:43 +0200
Hello,
I have problems with suse 7.1 and my new computer, a DELL Dimension 8100
(P4, chipet i850).
When i launch two process, only one works (the last launched) and stops
(freeze) the other one. So, the time shared is no more....
Do you have any solutions or clues? any adresses to get answers?
Thanks!
Alain Houelle
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From: "me" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.suse
Subject: need to get new kernel sources?
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 06:28:26 GMT
I got a new k_eide.rpm for my Suse 7.0 Pro because out of the box it didn't
recognize the Promise onboard controller on my motherboard plus it was
needed for Geforce problems. Anway they provide a boot image plus the rp. So
since I was installing I created the boot image and installed ok. I guess I
redundantly installed by RPM as well. Not sure if I needed to do that. I am
still using the same version of the kernel (2.2.16) that came with it but I
guess it's a new patch. Not sure how that works in Linux. This is importan
because the Nvidia Geforce card is provided in RPM for my kernel and also
the sources are provided.
1. Is it ok to use the RPM from Nvidia as along as it's for the same base
kernel I started with (2.2.16)?
2. If it isn't ok and I went and made the NVidia source and it compiled
without errors does that mean that it worked with anway with my kernel? IF
not where do I get these sources for my kernel? I take it that's what I
need. I have the original sources for 2.2.16 already installed.
Thanks.
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From: Nader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Serial port problems
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 00:03:36 -0700
You do have some IRQ sharing, although that may not affect your serial port
since you indicated it is on IRQ 4 and I don't see anything else on 4.
Two suggestions:
1) Upgrade your serial driver to 5.05. The 2.2.16 kernel has an older
version. You can get the latest at http://serial.sourceforge.net/
2) Upgrade your kernel to 2.4.2. I've experienced strange hardware
problems corrected by moving from 2.2.16 to 2.4.2. There have been a lot
of IDE and Serial changes.
Let us know if the problem persists after trying these.
Erik Max Francis wrote:
> Nader wrote:
>
> > What kernel version are you running? What is in your /proc/pci?
>
> Kernel 2.2.16. /proc/pci contains:
>
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From: Nader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Modems HELP
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 00:05:23 -0700
Try the Modem HOW-TO at http://linux.nf/
LittleFish wrote:
> Run modemtool and set it too Com1 dev/ttyS0 and try the modem with Minicom
> type ATZ and you should get O.K. back or something like that. I fit doesn't
> work run modemtool again and try the next port until you get a response from
> Minicom.
> Littlefish
> "Daniel Moody" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:3ae68dd2$0$25505$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I have a Netcomm Mega-i-modem 56 (external, Serial on COM1 or in linux
> terms
> > dev/ttyS0)
> >
> > i boought this modem cause i had a winmodem and i wanted to use Linux and
> > now i have this modem i till cant use net.
> >
> > when i try to connect it says Sorry cant find modem (or something like
> that)
> >
> > Im using Mandrake 7.2
> >
> > Please help
> >
> >
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