Shachar Shemesh wrote:

> It's certanly possible, but I believe you are missing some important
> point here. The purpose of these applets is not to get easy access to
> the machine using a new and innovative technique. The purpose is to
> provide clientless SSH.
> 
> For example, I am one of the admins on the now notorious fiasco server.
> We have a Fiasco member that usually connects from internet cafe's from
> around the world. That does not stop him from wanting to use SSH to
> connect. Well, guess what? The internet Cafe didn't install SSH. A
> crying oversight, no doubt, but a sad reality nontheless.
> 
> By installing this Java applet, I can give him a URL that will allow him
> to SSH to the machine. no need to install anything on the client.

I fully agree.
But everything you wrote, is right also when the connection between the
Java applet and the SSHD is done over HTTP/HTTPS.

Ira Abramov wrote in another response:

> Eli, you have been doing HTTP work in the past, can't you see the
> problems? HTTP works only one way - client asks, server answers. there
> is no way for the server to shove information asynchronously to the
> user, how can such interactive protocols work? you really want to load
> the line with 1 second polls from the client, or see screen updates only
> after you type or move a mouse?

Actually, there is a simple trick to do it under a standard HTTP/HTTPS
(without using any non-standard extension). Out of the scope for this
list.

But your response answered my question. I asked why all those Java
applets use only their own protocol instead of using HTTP/HTTPS, and
thanks to your response I know the answer: Their developer just don't
know this trick.

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