On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 16:05, Alex Shnitman wrote:

[ Note: I edited the order of paragraph in Alex's post from the original
]

> And you can very well think for yourself, be self-reliant, learn to
> solve problems, be creative, learn to protect your rights and ask smart
> questions, while at the same time using Windows for your computing
> needs. I respect and believe in the values of free software, but you're
> taking it way too far.

Obviously you are right but I was not saying otherwise - I was merly
pointing out the fact that popularity of a platform should not be the
single deciding factor in the decision whether to teach on it to
children or not. I DO think that it's much easier to get the positive
things I mentioned via open platforms and not via closed ones - more in
it ahead:

> Come on, Gilad, you're being a bit of a demagogue here. Operating a
> computer or a word processor has nothing to do with being a drone --
> it's a skill, just like any other. Like knitting or cooking or juggling
> balls, it's something you learn, practice, and become good at.
> 
> 
> Don't forget that not everyone in this world is meant to become a
> programmer. In fact, *all* the people in the modern world are mere
> consumers of most of the technologies and products that they use, be it
> computer software or canned tomato paste, and they neither know nor care
> about the way they're created.

This is where you and I completly differ. I don't like the concept of
being a consumer and that children are being brought up to be one. This
is exactly the "drone" mentality I as referring to.

>  People do not expect to be able to take
> apart their cell phone and put it back together like Lego, and they
> don't expect to do that with software either. For you, as a software
> developer, it's a natural desire, but you must understand the other
> people who couldn't care less, and it's just fine for them to think that
> way!

Everyone has a choice, of course. I do think that such an attitude is a
bad one though. No, not everyone needs to be a rocket scientist. But I
don't think you need a rocket scientist to have a basic understanding of
how things work.

I don't fix my own car, I don't fix my own TV set and I don't fix my
phone when it is broken - but I do know something about how they work
and I DO require and receive my right to inspect them, change them and
distribute them. I want people to have the same right for software and I
think one of the worst things about what closed source vendors though is
that they somehow convinced us all that we don't want that.

Sorry, I'm not buying it.

Gilad.

-- 
 Gilad Ben-Yossef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
 http://benyossef.com 

 Q: "What do you do if your Linux box goes down?" 
 A: "Sit around in the dark until the power comes back on" 



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