I already have an ADSL Alcatel HomeConnect(?) modem I bought from Bezeq
working fine with PPTP.  Is there ANY reason for me to consider bothering
with PPPoE (except that it sounds like it's more standard).  Is it more
relayable
or anything like that?

Thanks for putting up that document.

Cheers,

--Amos

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Doron Shikmoni 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 2:15 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: ADSL/Cable in Israel
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hetz Ben-Hamo wrote:
> 
> >>>3. There is no ISP in Israel that supports PPPoE connections (for 
> >>>appliances like routers,etc..)
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>ISP support for PPPoE is not needed. In fact, as Doron 
> Shikmoni pointed
> >>out on this list in the past you can even set the Bezeq 
> supplied Alcatel
> >>modems to workj in PPPoE mode quite easily if you're willing to 
> >>fiddle with the ADSL modem's setting via it's web interface.
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >All ISP's in Israel supports PPPoE. Fact is, it's not 
> related to them so 
> >much - it's more related to Bezeq, which now officially 
> supports PPPoE with 
> >their Samsung external modems (as well as hacked Alcatel 
> modems - but you're 
> >on your own now).
> >
> 
> Just a slight correction to the above statement: In the ADSL realm,
> as Gilad correctly noted, the ISPs do not need to "support" PPPoE -
> and neither does Bezeq. They both don't get to "see" the PPPoE
> (or PPTP for that matter). If your modem can bridge PPPoE into
> the ATM cloud, then you can happily do PPPoE. The Alcatel unit does
> not need to be "hacked" to do it - you just need to conifgure it 
> differently
> from its default setting (see URL below for instructions). The Samsung
> units are supplied this way by default (in fact, they just 
> don't support 
> PPTP
> relay into PPPoA). I tend to believe the same is doable even with the 
> Orckit
> units - I haven't tried it though.
> 
> Short form of the above: in ADSL, you can do PPPoE, provided your
> modem can do the bridging.
> 
> Instructions for configuring the Alcatel unit for PPPoE:
> http://www.isoc.org.il/~doron/PPPoE.html
> 
> Good luck,
> Doron
> 
> 
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