On Monday 03 May 2004 22:48, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> On Mon, May 03, 2004 at 08:40:02PM +0300, Dan Fruehauf wrote:
> > I've been googling for a while and couldnt find it, so here i am.
> > for some reasons i prefer not to go into, i have to synchronize clocks
> > between machines where one machine has it's clock on GMT and the other
> > doesnt (it's clock is GMT + x hours forward / backward).
>
> Actually: Israel's time zone is not defined as "GMT+2" or "GMT+3". It is
> defined as "Israel's official time zone. And its offset from GMT thus
> varies over the year.
>
> > my question is, is it possible to configure ntpd (or any other ntp
> > client) to fetch the time from some distant ntp server and to apply an
> > offset (like -1 hour, -2 hours, or something similar) on the time it
> > recieves from the server?
>
> Basically: no. Naturally it can be done. But it seems you misunderstand
> what time zones are.
can ntp do that?
>
> THe whole purpose of the time zones is to be able to use the same clock
> as everybody else in the world, and only display it locally as the
> correct time for the location.
spare this arguement from me, i know what is the purpose of timezones, and a 
clock set to GMT (or UTC).
>
> Time is usually saved and transfered as an offset from a certain time in
> the past. E.g: he number of seconds since a certain Epoch. In unix time
> is usually kept as the number of seconds since 1.1.1970 GMT (or UTC?
> nm). In ntp the time is usually kept as the number of seconds since
> 1.1.1980 GMT, IIRC. If the computers don't agree on the time bad things
> happen: you can send a mail to somone and the recipient gets a mail "from
> the future". Or gets the response "an hour too late (and he has the logs
> to show it).
i need an answer to my question, not a definition of timezones =D
>
> So the ntp clients and server don't really care about the local time
> zone. They only want to make the
>
> (the above is actually slightly over-simplistic. But the cunclusion
> below should hold anyway)
>
> So what you need to do is to fix the time-zone definition of the local
> system. Not further break your synchronizaiion with the world.

Thanks for relating to it.

Dan.

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