Hi, I myself uses cables, but dialers are a hoax (at least for customers). In ADSL instead of making the modem/router of ADSL to speak ADSL and Ethernet, it speaks only ADSL, and the dialer make the talking of ADSL and Ethernet for you.
In cables, it seems that without a dialer, the cables company controls your connection, and with one, the ISP control it. I myself can not see or understand any reason why as a customer I need to be interested that the ISP have any issues with the cables companies. He chooses to support this technology, and it's the ISP problem only. I do not need any dialer and I do not need to control this type of thing. ADSL and cables can be 100% LAN for customers if they do not need any dialer. Just think about all the lack of disconnections that users will "experience" without any dialer for example. So again, as a customer, for me a dialer is a hoax that only make things complicated without any real need, and if I need to use a dialer, I do not think that I'll use Actcom anymore specially after reading other comments here. Ido On Wednesday 21 September 2005 23:30, Aaron wrote: > Hi, > I had this happen as far as price was concerned. I just compared the > price others were getting for the same or more service and threatened to > switch to the other company and I got a better price. > > The dialer issue I never even fought though, and you are right the > dailer is a pain, I had no idea there was a choice to connect without a > dialer. Are you talking adsl or cable? > > Aaron > On Wed, 2005-09-21 at 12:07 +0300, Ido Kanner wrote: > > Hi list, > > > > Recently I updated my 4 years old account in Actcom (this is my 4th year). > > After watching the price of the account in my office, I found out that I pay a > > lot more for a lot less. That is I pay 760 NIS for 750 without a dialer, while > > at work we pay a lot less for a faster connection. > > > > BTW I was told that if I'll move to a dialer, it will cost me 200 NIS less !!! > > > > After a long talk with the finance, I found out that the reason for that is > > that I do not use a dailer, and the CO of Actcom decided that users without a > > dialer should pay more, alto as most of you know, the infurstracture and the > > technical stuff for Radius and other servers that are working in the background > > requires a lot more work (not to mention the support team that need to handle > > very stupid issues such as passowrd lost, incurrect login issues etc) ... > > > > The finance person also mentioned that I need to pay more, because a dialer > > gives them (Actcom) the ability to monitor connections. But on LAN (you all know > > that cables connection is a LAN) you can monitor activities as well, and not to > > mention that a dialer and the rest of the servers that you pass along the way > > makes the connection slower. > > > > Now don't get me wrong, I really like Actcom, and the fact that they support our > > community is a hugh Plus for me, and thats even before I mention their very good > > tech and Linux support etc.. > > > > But I do not wish to have a dialer, And I do not like the fact that the user > > should handle PPP connections for such thing. ADSL btw also does not really > > requires user intervention (L2TP is the protocol that ADSL talks, and > > theoretically the ADSL router should make the converting between Ethernet and > > ADSL on it's own). > > > > BTW If they will not give a better price, I don't think that I will continue > > working with them next year ... > > > > What do you think ? > > > > Ido > > > > > > > > ================================================================= > > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -- Artificial Intelligence: Making computers behave like they do in the movies. ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
