Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote: > Hi Shachar, > Spamhaus and SORBS routinely list yahoo, google, hotmail, tiscali and > other freemail addresses. So the problem isn't just SpamCop. The main question is WHY they are being blocked.
Spamcop has been leading a crusade to make bouncing of incoming messages a blacklist offense. I see this practice as abusive of Internet protocols, and is inherently punishes any large scale SMTP operator (ISPs included). The best I can do to fight this, however, is to recommend to everyone not to use such brain-dead black hole operators. If Spamhause and SORBS also adopted this foul habit, they should be dropped too. Black listing someone for following the SMTP protocol is not something that should be tolerated, and its effect on the mail validity will likely be worse than that of spam. > Secondly, talking with ISP's is a waste of time, Yes, that part of my mail was mostly wishful thinking. > I manage this problem on the TkOS mail servers by overriding the SORBS > and SpamHaus blocks for yahoo, gmail, hotmail, etc. This may have solved your problem as far as receiving mail from those specific servers, but did nothing to alleviate my original reservation from SpamCop's service, that of punishing anyone who does not follow a procedure made up by a closed comity, without any care or consideration for proper standards and internet protocols, not to mention public criticism. Again, I don't know whether Spamhause and SORBS have the same problem. If they do, however, your false positive rate has far greater problems than merely gmail, yahoo and hotmail. Since you are running a server for internal consumption, that is your prerogative to decide you don't care about this problem. An ISP, however, does not have that prerogative, IMHO. > Regards, > > - yba Shachar -- Shachar Shemesh Lingnu Open Source Consulting ltd. Have you backed up today's work? http://www.lingnu.com/backup.html ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
