Hi,

>  Not at all. Remember that the packets have to go through gateways.

So I wonder, are those ISP's using Cisco's 1XXX/2XXX routers which
makes those packet loss?
An ISP should have a very fast equipment which shouldn't loose packet
like nuts. Thats unacceptable these days, specially when it comes to
any serious video streaming, for example. Few days ago I did a small
test from a hosted server in one of the big ISP's here and tried to do
some HD streaming for a test I'm performing. I have 5MBit ADSL, so I
thought that it should be sufficient..
It was - but due to the packet loss, the stream becomes jerky playback
(not because of my machines here at home).

>  If your ISP has a direct connection to another ISP, or is part of
>  the same network, for example ActCom and BBL, or 013 and Netvision,
>  then things will go very smoothly. If they are not, you are dependent
>  upon their interconnection.

As much as I know (and it least according to my tests which I did 2
minutes ago with traceroute), all of the ISP's are connected between
themselves with fiber optics directly.

>  At one time all packets between ISPs went via the IIX, which tends to
>  become overloaded in the afternoon. I don't know if that has changed,
>  and if it has for all packets, or just ones that the ISPs want to have
>  high priority.

Now that they are connected between themselves, I don't think IIX is
alive any more. anyone knows whats the status of IIX these days?
Doron?

>  International sites are different. Your ISP connects to another ISP,
>  which connects to another ISP and so on. For example, I can get
>  ping times of less than 200ms to some sites in the U.S. and
>  over a second to others.

Yeah, which makes any hosting video streaming outside Israel a joke,
unless you have lots of money either for a slice of optic from Med1 or
using anything like Akamai's services.

>  Hopefully BEZEQ passes all tunneled data equally, it's up to your ISP
>  to forward the data as it sees fit. Israel has no regulations about
>  port and protocol blocking or traffic shaping (QOS routing).

QOS for traceroute? never heard of this thing before...

>  All ISPs do traffic shaping and 012 is notorious for it.

I don't want to be sued, but my hunch tells me that all of the ISP's
are doing QOS for stuff like Bittorrent, emule/edonkey etc. but not
blocking those ports (which would be a joke when it comes to
bittorrent.. It doesn't care if you block 6881-6888 TCP as long as you
open something else).

Thanks,
Hetz

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