On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 11:59:12AM +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > So I wonder, are those ISP's using Cisco's 1XXX/2XXX routers which > makes those packet loss? > An ISP should have a very fast equipment which shouldn't loose packet > like nuts. Thats unacceptable these days, specially when it comes to > any serious video streaming, for example. Few days ago I did a small > test from a hosted server in one of the big ISP's here and tried to do > some HD streaming for a test I'm performing. I have 5MBit ADSL, so I > thought that it should be sufficient.. > It was - but due to the packet loss, the stream becomes jerky playback > (not because of my machines here at home).
I have 5M cable, and it varries from host to host, day to day, time to time. For example, I have no noticeable packet loss using VoIP (SIP) to my provider, but had too much to make it useable to Vonage. Skype reports 5% packet loss often, and in the evening 15%-20%. Enough that I never use it unless I have to. Echolink is even worse (if you know what that is, if not suffice it to say it's a propritary VoIP package). > As much as I know (and it least according to my tests which I did 2 > minutes ago with traceroute), all of the ISP's are connected between > themselves with fiber optics directly. All? There are many ISP's in Israel besides the "big three". They probably are connected, but what about the small ones? Or Bynet? > Now that they are connected between themselves, I don't think IIX is > alive any more. anyone knows whats the status of IIX these days? > Doron? I'd like to find that out too. Please respond to the list. > Yeah, which makes any hosting video streaming outside Israel a joke, > unless you have lots of money either for a slice of optic from Med1 or > using anything like Akamai's services. That's life in the Internet. :-) > QOS for traceroute? never heard of this thing before... Sure, they would very likely traffic shape ping and traceroute to be really good, to make customers think it's not their ISP's problem. > I don't want to be sued, but my hunch tells me that all of the ISP's > are doing QOS for stuff like Bittorrent, emule/edonkey etc. but not > blocking those ports (which would be a joke when it comes to > bittorrent.. It doesn't care if you block 6881-6888 TCP as long as you > open something else). I know that Netvision does not block SIP nor, bit torrent but according to several users on other lists, 012 blocks (or did block) STEAM (a gaming site) and really slows down FTP. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel [EMAIL PROTECTED] N3OWJ/4X1GM ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
