-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 15 Jul 2004, Vipul Mathur wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 15, 2004 at 12:03:01PM +0545, Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote: > > > > On Thu, 15 Jul 2004, Vipul Mathur wrote: > > > > > > Okay you lost me there. What "technical soundness" are you talking about? > > > The process of keeping sid updated is almost the same as keeping stable > > > updated. An occasional apt-get update; apt-get (dist-)upgrade; will do it > > > for you. There is no rocket science here. One just has to be a little more > > > carefull than stable. > > > > Doesn't that "be a little more careful" sentence require you to be > > having good expertise and experience with Debian ? > > It is many a times told on Debian too that sid is mainly for experienced > > users where as people concerning security and stability should consider > > stable. My concern again is mainly with stable. I want to use stable. Why ? > > Becuase of it's reputation. It doesn't break offen as sid and testing > > do. Ya, you might say that that can be fixed. Again, you require > > experience and expertise for all that. Does everyone have it ? > > Stable <-- critical updates only > <-- old packages > <-- best for servers (security is critical) > > Unstable <-- MUCH more frequent updates > <-- latest packages > <-- more suited for desktops > > I also admit the fact, as does the head of the Debian team, that their > release cycle is waaay slow. In fact Debian is working actively on speeding > up the release cycle. As crazy as that may sound to Debian purists, it is > true ;-) (Refer to the archives for an earlier mail from me about this) > > If it is your choice to install stable on a desktop, you can't really crib > can you ;-) > > > But what about usability ? Isn't gaim included in stable (woody), or > > wouldn't it be included into sarge(when it get's into stable). What then > > ? If the problem (connectivity to Yahoo) again appears, what are we > > going to do ? > > How come you are not complaining about not having the latest and > greatest KDE/GNOME/X in stable then? > > > Pinning ? Ah! again it would be a little more cumbersome for a normal > > user. > > * /etc/apt/preferences > Package: mozilla-firefox > Pin: version 0.8* > Pin-Priority: 1001 > > That is something I did 10 minutes ago. Is that so cumbersome as to > overshadow all the other advantages of sid? > > Hmmm.. you sound like you will not use the solutions as you think they > are cumbersome and you still want to crib. I don't want to sound rude, > but I know *lots* of people who happily use Debian unstable on their > desktops and are ready to live with the occasional hiccup. > > The practical suggestion from me, keeping in mind the current state of things > is: that if you *definitely* cannot handle unstable (why? the list is always > there to help when you get stuck!) and you are not happy with any other > Debian tree, then move to another distribution. > > > > "Oh! some of the packages in Debian stable, because of it's POLICY remain > > unusable." :-) What would be the use of keeping such packages into the > > stable branch when they aren't worth it? > > Aah! Now there is an idea that we can use. Remove packages which have an > extremely short life-cycle from stable. Worth it if you ask me. > > Vipul, Thank you for all your responses. One last question. Is pinning really successful ? I was suggested sometime before on the DUML not to use pinning as it later leads to problems. What have your experiences been with it ? - -- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFA9liK4Rhi6gTxMLwRAuP1AJ0dsinPQstJSnjRGhkMA6TY8TauugCgmZRp hdyA7yCqHpX4eSpkomYVEN0= =EOna -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic Workshop FREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools! Get your free copy of BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 today. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=4721&alloc_id=10040&op=click _______________________________________________ linux-india-help mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-india-help
