>>"Urmil" == Urmil Parikh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

 Urmil> That is what I was trying to tell. When today's Real
 Urmil> Programmers were novice in the past, vi and emacs were the
 Urmil> best editors. That does not qualify them to be best
 Urmil> today. Zamana badal gaya hai.

        That happens to be your opinion. As a practicing professional,
 I beg to differ. I have yet to see an IDE that offers even a fraction
 of what Emacs does, combined judicously with tools like gdb, xdg, dd,
 id-utils, ctags, and gcc.


 Urmil> Don't you think those colouring and syntax checking are features of
 Urmil> IDEs rather than editors?

        No.

 Urmil> Don't you think yesterday's plain editors are drifting to
 Urmil> become IDEs?

        Hell no.

 Urmil> Today syntax highlighting / checking is introduced, tomorrow
 Urmil> you may find vi or emacs with compilation and debugging
 Urmil> facility. Isn't it what we call as an IDE?

        Then IDE's are merely wanna be emacsen, since I have compiled
 and jumped to error locations in my files using emacs for more than a
 decade (that is pre windows 3.1 days)

        Why should I go to a product that is playing catchup when I
 have something like emacs?


        manoj
-- 
 The Worst Prison Guards The largest number of convicts ever to escape
 simultaneously from a maximum security prison is 124.  This record is
 held by Alcoente Prison, near Lisbon in Portugal. During the weeks
 leading up to the escape in July 1978 the prison warders had noticed
 that attendances had fallen at film shows which included "The Great
 Escape", and also that 220 knives and a huge quantity of electric
 cable had disappeared.  A guard explained, "Yes, we were planning to
 look for them, but never got around to it."  The warders had not,
 however, noticed the gaping holes in the wall because they were
 "covered with posters".  Nor did they detect any of the spades,
 chisels, water hoses and electric drills amassed by the inmates in
 large quantities. The night before the breakout one guard had noticed
 that of the 36 prisoners in his block only 13 were present.  He said
 this was "normal" because inmates sometimes missed roll-call or hid,
 but usually came back the next morning. "We only found out about the
 escape at 6:30 the next morning when one of the prisoners told us," a
 warder said later.  [...]  When they eventually checked, the prison
 guards found that exactly half of the gaol's population was missing.
 By way of explanation the Justice Minister, Dr. Santos Pais, claimed
 that the escape was "normal" and part of the "legitimate desire of
 the prisoner to regain his liberty." Stephen Pile, "The Book of
 Heroic Failures"
Manoj Srivastava   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/>
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