On 09/18, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>
> On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 03:28:44PM +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > On 09/18, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > >
> > >   ns = pid->numbers[pid->level].ns;
> > >   if ((atomic_read(&pid->count) == 1) ||
> > >        atomic_dec_and_test(&pid->count)) {
> > >
> > > +         smp_read_barrier_depends(); /* ctrl-dep */
> >
> > Not sure... Firstly it is not clear what this barrier pairs with. And I
> > have to admit that I can not understand if _CTRL() logic applies here.
> > The same for atomic_read_ctrl().
>
> The control dependency barrier pairs with the full barrier of
> atomic_dec_and_test.

Yes thanks. I already got it. I hope ;)

> > OK, please forget about put_pid() for the moment. Suppose we have
> >
> >     X = 1;
> >     synchronize_sched();
> >     Y = 1;
> >
> > Or
> >     X = 1;
> >     call_rcu_sched( func => { Y = 1; } );
> >
> >
> >
> > Now. In theory this this code is wrong:
> >
> >     if (Y) {
> >             BUG_ON(X == 0);
> >     }
> >
> > But this is correct:
> >
> >     if (Y) {
> >             rcu_read_lock_sched();
> >             rcu_read_unlock_sched();
> >             BUG_ON(X == 0);
> >     }
> >
> > So perhaps something like this
> >
> >     /*
> >      * Comment to explain it is eq to read_lock + read_unlock,
> >      * in a sense that this guarantees a full barrier wrt to
> >      * the previous synchronize_sched().
> >      */
> >     #define rcu_read_barrier_sched()        barrier()
> >
> > make sense?
> >
> >
> > And again, I simply can't understand if this code
> >
> >     if (READ_ONCE_CTRL(Y))
> >             BUG_ON(X == 0);
> >
> > to me it does _not_ look correct in theory.
>
> So control dependencies provide a load-store barrier. Your examples
> above rely on a load-load barrier; BUG_ON(X == 0) is a load.

Yes, yes...

What I tried to say is that we could fix it another way. And even look
at this problem from another angle. No, it is not that I think it would
be better in this particular case, but still...

put_pid() could do

        if (atomic_read(&pid->count) == 1) {

                rcu_read_lock();
                rcu_read_unlock();
                
                kmem_cache_free(pid);
        }

if we observe atomic_read() == 1, we know that we have at least one
gp pass after all other writes to this memory (namely hlist_del_rcu()
which removes it from rcu-list). Because we can see atomic_read() == 1
until delayed_put_pid() (called by RCU) drops its reference.

and perhaps this lock + unlock pair (which is nop at least for _sched)
makes some sense in general...

Oleg.

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