Linux-Misc Digest #365, Volume #18 Sun, 27 Dec 98 10:13:10 EST
Contents:
Re: Netscape on debian wanting libraries (Peter S. Frouman)
Re: Anti-Linux FUD (Richard Steiner)
Re: XFree86 and Intel i740 graphics card (Patrick W)
Re: Just a minor
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Maclean)
Re: Monitor Flashing (Peter S. Frouman)
Re: Remote boot (James Knott)
Initio scsi controller - krnl 2.1.132 - locks up on boot ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Windows umulation (was: Unix vs Windows NT) ("Rev. Don Kool")
Re: Anti-Linux FUD (Floyd Davidson)
Re: Problem finding all of disk. (rks)
Re: Unix vs Windows NT (Shani Oren)
Re: Anti-Linux FUD (Martin Skj�ldebrand)
Re: My Computer is Satan - please help (rks)
Re: Help: Unable to open initial display!! (rks)
Re: Linux on an IBM ThinkPAD (Keith Phillips)
Re: Anti-Linux FUD (Filipe Custodio)
Re: Problems compiling things with AutoMake+AutoConf (Falk Hueffner)
Re: A crazy idea (FTP install via null modem?) (Wildman, the Cuberstalker)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter S. Frouman)
Subject: Re: Netscape on debian wanting libraries
Date: 27 Dec 1998 11:41:56 GMT
On 27 Dec 1998 10:02:59 GMT, Xeno Campanoli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I just installed Debian on one of my workstations. I needed to install
>Netscape, which I could not find on the Debian ftp site, so I downloaded
>the one available from netscape. It starts asking for all sorts of
>libraries that I couldn't find among the Debian distribution (libc6
>series, and the topper was something called libg++.so.27). Well I finally
Netscape is linked with libc5 and Debian uses glibc (libc6) so you need
some of the libraries (xpm,libX11,libg++, etc.) in the oldlibs section
which should show up when you run dselect. For netscape 4.08 I get the
following from 'ldd netscape' on a Debian 2.0 system.
/lib/nfslock.so.0 => /lib/nfslock.so.0 (0x4000d000)
libXt.so.6 => /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXt.so.6 (0x4000f000)
libSM.so.6 => /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libSM.so.6 (0x40051000)
libICE.so.6 => /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libICE.so.6 (0x4005a000)
libXmu.so.6 => /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXmu.so.6 (0x4006f000)
libXpm.so.4 => /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXpm.so.4 (0x40081000)
libXext.so.6 => /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXext.so.6 (0x4008f000)
libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libX11.so.6 (0x4009a000)
libdl.so.1 => /lib/libdl.so.1 (0x40138000)
libc.so.5 => /lib/libc.so.5 (0x4013b000)
libg++.so.27 => /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libg++.so.27 (0x401f9000)
libstdc++.so.27 => /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libstdc++.so.27 (0x40231000)
libm.so.5 => /lib/libm.so.5 (0x40262000)
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-Peter Frouman | finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key
Zippy says:
I feel ... JUGULAR ...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner)
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: Anti-Linux FUD
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1998 14:56:01 -0600
Here in comp.os.linux.misc, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Floyd Davidson)
spake unto us, saying:
>However, one nice thing about Linux, or any multi-user OS, is
>being able to access it in other ways to clear such problems.
>If you had had even a plain old ascii terminal tied to a serial
>port you could have logged in and killed the X server to clear
>the problems. A more interesting way is to have more than one
>computer handy, and have them networked. Then you can just
>telnet in and do the same thing.
That's what I'd do now (I have a pair of PPros). I didn't then, tho,
so unfortunately it wasn't an option.
>That concept can be expanded to a number of things too, like
>offloading a lot of miscellanious stuff onto the other computer.
>And since the second computer isn't really too important, it can
>be any old cheap, slow, or whatever is available clunker you can
>find. Let it run the modem, the printer, the scanner, the CDR,
>the tape drive, the sound system, do some big long compile job,
>or whatever.
My third box (a 486) is my firewall now, and it has the RADSL modem and
the other modem (still needed for work) attached to it. The second box
(PPro) is my play-around box, and it has all sorts of weird OSes on it
now. :-) And the primary box is basically OS/2 except when I decide
to boot into Red Hat, or boot into Windows 95 to play StarCraft.
Having multiple PCs is a good thing. :-)
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-Rich Steiner >>>---> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>---> Bloomington, MN
OS/2 + Linux (Slackware+RedHat+SuSE) + FreeBSD + Solaris +
WinNT4 + Win95 + PC/GEOS + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven!
Hop...Wham!...Splash...Yikes!...Hop...Wham!...
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From: Patrick W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,linux.dev.newbie
Subject: Re: XFree86 and Intel i740 graphics card
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 13:05:22 +0100
John Minear wrote:
> Sol Swords wrote:
>
> > Does anyone know how to get this combination to work? I'm assuming this
> > is the reason my new intstall isn't working; Linux works fine but I
> > can't startX; it gives me an error about "no screens found." I say this
> > is probably my problem because I have tried many different options and
> > get slightly different results with each, but none actually work.
> >
> > Thanks very very much for any help
> >
> > - Sol
>
> I had the some proplem. I have a "Diamond Viper AGP v-500" What I did to
> fix the problem was to upgrade to Xfree86 3.3.3 then run xconf.
Intel704 for Redhat at ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub7/X11/XBF/
--
May the Source be with you!
//Patrick - http://i.am/westerlund/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Caspian Maclean)
Subject: Re: Just a minor
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Date: 27 Dec 1998 19:26:05 +0800
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Matthias Warkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Some people on #linux IRC convinced me that running INN on a dialup machine
>is really overkill. I realised that there is a difference between posting
>news and sending batches, too (go figure - while suck says "it posts news
>locally with IHAVE", people told me reader boxes don't accept IHAVE and you
>need to post there - shrug).
This sounds like a misunderstanding. Your ISP's news server probably
only accepts reader connections (with nnrp) from you, so you can't post
to it using IHAVE. INN on your own computer can be set up to accept
nntp connections from other programs on your own computer, including
from suck. If this is done, suck can send the news it downloaded from
your ISP to your copy of INN using IHAVE. Whether that counts as
posting I'm not sure, but that's what suck would have meant by it.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter S. Frouman)
Subject: Re: Monitor Flashing
Date: 27 Dec 1998 12:13:51 GMT
On Sun, 27 Dec 1998 04:28:42 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>to exit out. However, I had changed my inittab file to make it start up in X
>Windows every time. So when I try to exit out, it puts me right back in
>again. I can't get past that first prompt to get into inittab to change
>anything around. Is there anything I can do to stop it and get it back to
>normal, or am I going to have to wipe everything away, and just start over
>again? Oh, and I tried the old kernel to see if it would boot up that way. No
You can bring the system up in single user mode to fix the problem.
Assuming you have LILO installed, type 'linux single' (substitute 'linux'
with the label of the new kernel, pressing tab will show a list) at the
prompt and it should start in runlevel 1. Then you can edit /etc/inittab
and check /var/log/xdm-error.log to find out what the problem is. Once
you have established that the X server and xdm works, you can change
inittab to start X automatically.
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-Peter Frouman | finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key
Zippy says:
Go on, EMOTE! I was RAISED on thought balloons!!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Knott)
Subject: Re: Remote boot
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1998 18:52:14 -0500
Reply-To: James Knott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
In article <01be28e4$32e0cb40$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Andreas Moroder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>we have many diskless machines in our hospital that boot form an ancient
>Netware 3.12 Machine. Is there a way to let them boot from Linux. Does one
>of the various Netware emulations allow this ?
Why not download the Netware server for Linux from Caldera and find
out?
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_________________________________________________________________________
The above opinions are my own and not those of ISM Corp., a subsidiary of
IBM Canada Ltd.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Initio scsi controller - krnl 2.1.132 - locks up on boot
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 13:02:59 GMT
I have a initio 9100u pci scsi controller
I downloaded the latest dev kernel 2.1.132 because it supports my controller
and also I wanted 2 see what new stuff is comming up.
After configuring it, compiling it and installing it I rebooted (naturally).
I was presented with the following during boot up
===============================================================
i91u : PCI Base=0x6200, IRQ 10, BIOS=0xff000, SCSI ID=7
i91u : Reset SCSI Bus....
scsi : Initio INI-9X00U/UW SCSI device driver; Revision 1.03b
scsi : 1 host
===============================================================
and after that it just sits there, iritatingly refusing to contnue with the
boot process. Has any1 else encounterd similar problems, is there things I
should be checking or should I opt for a stable kernel release. I tried
2.0.36 with the initio drivers applied and it spat it with me 8(
Any help would be greatly appreciated,
thank you.
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From: "Rev. Don Kool" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: Windows umulation (was: Unix vs Windows NT)
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 13:21:33 GMT
Steve Revilak wrote:
> dstephen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 98 percent of the software that I like to use is 95 or Nt only. A lot of
> > really great games that I like to play mostly. I perfer Nt over 95 for
> > gaming (if the game runs under NT, otherwise use 95 ) since the game
> > crashes but not the os (I've gotten NT to a real stable point)
>
> This may be a silly notion, but has anyone written a windows emulator
> for windows? Perhaps I'm crazy, but one would think that such a
> creature would make Linux a much more attractive offering, particularly
> to an organization with a large base of existing ms apps.
>
> I'm aware of several usable incarnations that run on the macintosh, so
> it should be a doable thing.
SoftWindows
WinDD
...
Yours in Christ,
Don
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********************** You a bounty hunter?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Floyd Davidson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.x,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Anti-Linux FUD
Date: 27 Dec 1998 13:02:42 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
David M. Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 25 Dec 1998 12:27:51 GMT, Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>It probably should be mentioned that normal users do not
>>need the sbin directories in their PATH.
>
>If you use things like traceroute a lot it's nice to have these in your path.
As I mentioned in another article, put it where it belongs.
Floyd
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Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pictures of the North Slope at <http://www.ptialaska.net/~floyd>
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From: rks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problem finding all of disk.
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 14:59:13 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello Leonard,
I am not completly sure, butt his seems the problem of the bios that only
supports hd�s till 8.4Gb. You need to make a change in your bios to use LBA
for hd's.
Leonard Evens wrote:
> I am trying to install RedHat 5.2 on a PC purchsed locally. The vendor
> partitioned
> the disk for me with 6 Gig devoted to Windows 98. The disk is
> supposedly a
> Western Digital 10 Gigabyte disk, but when installing linux, I could
> only find
> a bit over 8 Gig, thus leaving only 2 Gig for linux. Fdisk finds 1024
> cylinders.
>
> On the other hand, we have several machines in our department with large
>
> disks and more than 1024 cylinders. Can anyone suggest what the
> problem
> might be.
>
> The machine also has a 56 K US Robotics Fax Modem which Windows says
> is at Com3. But I can't seem to find it with Linux. Minicom, which I
> am
> unfortunately not all that familiar with, can't even get a response
> with AT.
>
> Are there any other tools for looking for the modem under linux?
>
> I am currently using exactly the same modem in a VA Research machine,
> so I know it can work with Linux, but I am a loss at not even being able
>
> to talk to it. Could the settings of the serial ports be part of the
> problem?
> My machine has the modem at Com2 under Windows, which I believe is
> more common.
>
> --
>
> Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
> Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: Shani Oren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: Unix vs Windows NT
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:26:38 +0200
What?! No nethack on linux?!
There must be nethack for linux, and it's the best ever, ya know...
O.S.
Destrius wrote:
> ...and it was written on the heavens that on 26 Dec 1998 04:15:34 GMT,
> the entity named David Stanaway ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> inscribed the following words in comp.os.linux.misc:
>
> -clip-
> >>At the moment, tho, I really wish there were more RPGs for Linux... :)
> >
> >Well, there are the Mud's .. but not much solo play stuff.
> -clip-
>
> Mud's and the rest of the gang are quite fun, but nothing can beat a
> full-fledged CRPG. So that's why I'm working on creating one for
> Linux. Of course, with my programming skills, the very first alpha version
> would be released late next century. :)
>
> --
> +-------------------+-----------------------------------------------------+
> | Destrius Dragon | -=*[UnSPLUT!]*=- |
> | Official Mad Mage | Web: http://destrius.simplenet.com |
> | -=*[~UDIC~]*=- | Email: d e s t r i us@ge o c i t i e s . c o m |
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Skj�ldebrand)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.x,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Anti-Linux FUD
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 14:10:45 GMT
On 27 Dec 1998 03:25:13 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Mading)
wrote:
>Martin Skj�ldebrand ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>: Coming in late on this thread I can't really see why this is a BAD
>: THING. As long as uninstalling tarballs is a pain why not use an
>: each-program-in-its-own-dir modell?
>
>Rather than sound like a broken record, I'll just refer you to the
>top of this post, which includes my reason why I don't like it from
>one of my previous posts, which you handily left in place for me.
Is this it?
>: Steve Mading wrote:
>: >: [...]
>: >: >and 2 - I don't want a $PATH
>: >: > variable that's over 1000 letters long because of all the /opt/yadda
>: >: > directories in it.
I don't think the argument holds really. Why can't you simply install
a linked file in, say, /usr/local/bin that says "/opt/yadda/app &"?
Then you only add /usr/local/bin to $PATH.
Or am I missing something?
M.
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From: rks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: My Computer is Satan - please help
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:05:23 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Maybe you forgot to type it, but after compiling the kernel.... did you do
"lilo"?
Chad Cunningham wrote:
> I've had about as much as I can take, and my computer is about to get an
> ax through the hard drive. Basically, I tried installing a second NIC
> card, which caused all sorts of problems. My computer began to hang when
> booting and I started getting errors to the effect that some modules
> could not be loaded. So, since I had no idea what else to do, I figured
> that I might as well recompile my kernel to try and get rid of the
> module problems which might fix my other problems... So i recompile my
> kernel, and reboot to the message "error: invalid compression format"
> which made me laugh out loud in a rather depraved and maniac way.
> Needless to say, this is about the 100th time I've compiled a kernel,
> and this is the first time I've seen this. I do the normal procedure
> make config, make dep, make clean, make zImage, make modules, make
> modules_install, cp /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/zImage /boot and then
> reboot.
>
> I am really at the end of my rope here, I have no idea what to do, and
> my machine is one small step away from fdisk. I would really appreciate
> any advice. Really.
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From: rks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help: Unable to open initial display!!
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:07:19 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
There seems a library missing or a link has been changed.....
Kenneth wrote:
> My machine run on RedHat 5.2 with SiS6326 AGP.
> When I boot Linux, it halt with following message:
> Unable to open initial display.
>
> (Before I rebooted, I was trying to setup X, and
> console fonts, dunno whether it is the reason..)
>
> I can mount the fs with rescue disks... but dunno
> which setting is wrong. Please Help.
> (just dont want to reinstall linux whenever there
> is problem...)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Keith Phillips)
Subject: Re: Linux on an IBM ThinkPAD
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 27 Dec 1998 14:29:02 -0500
Yes; I installed it on a 780ED in an unused partition.
System specs:
ThinkPad 780ED (166Mhz CPU)
80MB RAM
5GB hard drive
The first two partitions are used by Winslug95. RH 5.1 got an 800MB partition.
There's a good website for ThinkPads and X Windows; search on "ThinkPad" AND
"Linux". Overall, the installation went with no problems; getting X
configured was the tricky part. My 380 has a Token-Ring PCMCIA card, and I
haven't got it working yet (just lack of desire -- we don't use Linux at
work *sob* :( )
On Sun, 27 Dec 1998 09:55:16 +0200, Shani Oren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
spoke unto us, saying:
>Hi,
>
>Has anyone installed Linux on an IBM ThinkPAD?
>
>If so, would love to get a recepie and some tips.
>
>Tnx,
>
>Oren Shani
>
Keith Phillips, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Filipe Custodio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: Anti-Linux FUD
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 13:29:35 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
John Allen wrote:
> In over three years of post registry Windows usage I have only seen
> a corrupt registry ONCE, and this was caused by a screwy hard disk
> which not long afterwards exited stage left.
In over three years of Windows usage (including Windows 95, NT
Workstation and NT Server), I've seen my share of registry corruption;
For instance, once I did the following on my NT Workstation at work:
- Open the CD tray
- Start a reboot
- Forget to close the tray
After this, Every time I tried to login as my user, I would get a BSOD.
The solution was to get the latest USER.DAT file from backup and
overwrite the existing.
Just my $.02
Filipe
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Falk Hueffner)
Subject: Re: Problems compiling things with AutoMake+AutoConf
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 14:29:20 GMT
On 26 Dec 1998 04:36:03 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Lee Ludwig) wrote:
>./configure: syntax error near unexpected token
>`AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE($PACKAGE,'
>./configure: ./configure: line 579: `AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE($PACKAGE, $VERSION,
>no-define)'
This means autoconf didn�t find the macro definition. Try running
aclocal.
Falk
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wildman, the Cuberstalker)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: A crazy idea (FTP install via null modem?)
Date: 27 Dec 1998 14:38:24 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 26 Dec 1998 21:37:42 GMT, Equinox
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>A null modem connection is a direct connection between the serial
>ports of two computers. It requires a specially-wired serial cable
>(usually referred to as a "null-modem cable"). I think you're
>right... a serial connection would be rather slow. It would probably
>be better to stick to parallel (for PLIP) or Ethernet connections.
Well, a null-modem connection is as fast as the machines involved can
handle, so it isn't speed that would be an issue. The lack of TCP/IP on
which to run the FTP would be the problem.
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