Linux-Misc Digest #389, Volume #18 Tue, 29 Dec 98 01:13:09 EST
Contents:
Re: Am I stupid or am I stupid. PPP. ALMOST!!! (Leslie Mikesell)
Re: Anti-Linux FUD (Steve Mading)
MPDN - Minnesota Public Digital Network (Lyno Sullivan)
Re: IRQ conflict between Video and Ethernet (Dale Miracle)
Re: BIG PROBLEM WITH PPP SOLVED (HANGUP AFTER LOGGING IN) ("eb")
Re: Pussy shot from behind 1232 (spmccann)
Re: Microchannel Archetecture q's ("Ken McCord")
Re: Am I stupid or am I stupid. PPP. ALMOST!!! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: things I'd pay to have developed for Linux... (Christopher B. Browne)
Re: HELP: Partitioning question (Jerry Lapham)
Re: BIG PROBLEM WITH PPP SOLVED (HANGUP AFTER LOGGING IN) (PG)
Re: good office package for linux ("Dave Nelson")
Re: help! mounting cdrom! (Mike Werner)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.protocols.ppp
Subject: Re: Am I stupid or am I stupid. PPP. ALMOST!!!
Date: 28 Dec 1998 21:21:57 -0600
In article <768uma$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>Errr, RedHat includes at least 2 fill-in-the form tools for this
>>and there are a couple of others available from the usual places.
>>I've never had any trouble with one you find from the network
>>icon in the RedHat control-panel.
>>
>
>this did not work for me (red hat 5.2).
>filled in the blanks. the connection hangs right after connecton is made,
>some error about PAM and authorization.
Did you try the 'debug connection' option?
>never had this problem on windoz though. there it just works everytime.
>btw, the dial-out GUI is even better designed and looks better on
>windows than the control panel thing on linux.
I haven't seen that problem before on Linux either. For some reason
people only post here when they have a problem and don't bother
to mention it when they find the answer.
Note that you really don't need to go to the control panel to dial
out once the scripts are working. Just do:
/sbin/ifup ppp0 &
I use a script to do this, start netscape, and open a couple of xterms
with different foreground/background colors for telnet sessions in
a single command. I find it harder to do that in ms-windows.
Les Mikesell
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Mading)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.x,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Anti-Linux FUD
Date: 28 Dec 1998 23:18:11 -0600
Martin Skj�ldebrand ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: On 27 Dec 1998 15:03:28 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Floyd
: Davidson) wrote:
: > However, that doesn't work well
: >for netpbm or for X as a couple of examples.
: Hmm, I suspected something like that. But there must be a way to keep
: track of where all files in tarballs go.
If that's your concern, then just do this every time you install a
tarball:
prompt% tar tvf foo.tar > /my_installed_tars_dir/foo.tarout
prompt% tar xvf foo.tar
If you get in the habit of doing this all the time, then you'll
have records of where all the files in every installed tarball went.
For better certainty, make a wrapper script for tar that does the above
automatically whenever anyone runs tar.
(That's still not perfect because it doesn't provide a way to revert to
an older version of a file that got clobbered by a tarball, but it handles
the case where all the files in the tarball are new files. Versioning and
recovery of old stuff is not practical for general usage because it eats up
too much disk space (for some people it is needed, but it shouldn't be the
default behaviour, since it is very wasteful.).
--
Steve Mading: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.execpc.com/~madings
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lyno Sullivan)
Subject: MPDN - Minnesota Public Digital Network
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 04:47:26 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I would appreciate your support of the following
initiative. Specifically, I will need the help of
the free software community during discussions of
item 4 and the excerpt listed below.
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December 27, 1998
To: Free Software Community
Fr: "Lyno Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: MPDN - Minnesota Public Digital Network
The full MPDN announcement may be viewed at:
<http://www.freedomain.org/^lls/free-mn/19981222-mpdn.html>
This post constitutes an invitation to join discussions
concerning the MPDN. Beginning in January, 1999, I will
present each goal of the MPDN for discussion within
the MN-NETGOV listserv. If you are a stakeholder to
these goals, please join the listserv.
Anyone can join that listserv by sending an email to
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Members may view past messages, calendars, and other group
features at:
<http://www.egroups.com/list/mn-netgov/>
ABSTRACT
In preparation for my requesting Legislative hearings
in 1999, this article explains my vision of the
Minnesota Public Digital Network (MPDN), which is:
1) to provide every Minnesota citizen with a
secure and authenticated email address within
the mn.us hierarchy,
2) to assure that every citizen can use email
to dialogue with the elected and the appointed
offices of government,
3) to assure that every local community has a
high speed digital network and a repository for
the creative works and letters of the Minnesota
people, and
4) to collect the free software tools necessary
to attain these goals, within the Government
Information Freedom Toolbox (the GIFT), which will
be created as a byproduct of Minnesota State
government's conversion to free software.
EXCERPT
GOAL 1) Effective immediately, freeze (at current
levels or lower) all spending for non-free, closed
source, software. Establish a Legislative audit to
determine the Total Cost of Operation (TCO) costs
of non-free server and desktop software. Establish
a cost reduction plan that will result in the
elimination of spending on non-free software.
Collect all those monies, identified by the TCO
analysis, together into a revolving Software
Freedom Fund, to be administered by the Office
of Technology. Require that all further purchases
and upgrades of non-free, closed source server and
desktop software must be approved by the Minnesota
Office of Technology's, Information Policy Council
(IPC). The IPC will be charged to develop a
statewide model of the MPDN. The IPC will be
charged to connect every public sector worker in
Minnesota to the MPDN. Savings within the
Software Freedom Fund may be spent on writing free
software. Revenues of the Software Freedom Fund
must be spent, to endow the creation of free software
and free content, all of which, must be licensed
under the GNU General Public License (GPL) or a
suitable copyleft license.
--
Copyright(c) 1998 Lyno Sullivan; this work is free
and may be copied, modified and distributed under
the GNU Library General Public License (LGPL)
<http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/lgpl.html> and it comes
with absolutely NO WARRANTY;
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Dale Miracle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: IRQ conflict between Video and Ethernet
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 22:21:31 -0500
Jim Orfanakos wrote:
>
> I am having an irq conflict between my Linksys EtherCard 10/100 and my STB
> Velocity 128 video card.
>
> When I check /proc/interrupts and /proc/ioaddress...I have no conflicts.
>
> When I check my settings in WIN98...both the Ethernet card and the video
> card are using irq 11. I tried changing the irq's in WIN98...but WIN98
> won't let me.
>
Most mother boards (at least the one I have and my friends have that I
have worked on) have an option in bios to give an irq to the video card
or not. I would make it so it doesn't give an irq to the video card and
then try it. I know on some motherboard their plug'n'play support has a
slightly problem where it has a tendency to assign irq's to two devices
at once. My spacewalker shuttle board was like that until I flashed the
bios and installed the irq patch for windows95. If your problem goes
away I would remove the network card and video. Remove them from
windows95 and add them one by one. They should get an irq of their own
then. See if this helps.
--
Dale Miracle "No matter where you go, there you are",
System Administrator Oliver's Law of Location
The Edge of Insanity "Real funny Scotty, now beam down my
[EMAIL PROTECTED] clothes"
"I've gone to look for my self, if I return before I get
back keep me here."
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From: "eb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.protocols.ppp
Subject: Re: BIG PROBLEM WITH PPP SOLVED (HANGUP AFTER LOGGING IN)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 22:15:26 -0700
PG, what version of Linux are you using? If it is redhat, use linuxconf, it
will walk you throught the entire process of setting up a dial-up. Just
type linuxconf at the prompt, or find it on your utilities menu in Xwindows.
BTW, make sure you are logged in as root, or you will never get it working.
Eric
>Hmmm... I still have this problem after two weeks. There *must* be a
>damn simple solution to this but every Linux resource seems to say:
>"Ask the next guy..."
>
>In the meantime, I've installed Win98 on the other half of the hard
>time. Dailing in took all of 1 minute but Win98 has already crashed
>innumerable times (and I mean innumerable). It will be nice if my
>Linux ever works (the ppp part of it, that is). It's never once
>crashed.
>
>I tried wvdial but it also ended with the dreaded "PPPDeamon quit". I
>tried EZPPP but still haven't managed to install it correctly (or it
>has failed to install itself correctly...) I'll try KPPP.
>
>I printed out the PPP HOWTO. What exactly is an LCP. The HOWTO states
>that using the PASSIVE switch prevents the PPPD from exiting if it
>does not recieve a valid LCP from the peer. Could this be the problem?
>
>On Mon, 28 Dec 1998 09:48:25 -0500, "Sergei Gerasenko"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>To everybody who read my previous message with the subject "Am I stupid or
>>am I stupid" and who experienced the same program. it's 2 a.m. right now
and
>>I finally connected to my ISP. Thrilled? O.K., I still don't know why I
>>couldn't connect with the scrips, but I downloaded a program called WVdial
>>from http://worldvisions.ca/wvdial/ and wow!!! it worked. The program is
>>very simple to use and doesn't seem to do anything fancy, but it works.
So,
>>try it. I wonder what command line the program issued. Best of luck.
>>P.S. I still want my scripts to work, 'cause otherwise I don't have the
>>sweet taste of victory.
>>Sergei
>>
>>
>
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From: spmccann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Pussy shot from behind 1232
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 02:57:51 +0000
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>
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>
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>
> -- Norman Jordan -- Electrical Engineering Student
>
> The Linux Resource Center
>
Yes it is a real pain. Its just somethjing that we need to start to take
to task. A dOS attck springs to mind except that they have they right to
publish meck on their web pages if they want.
Sean
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From: "Ken McCord" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microchannel Archetecture q's
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 21:07:57 -0500
Err, Linux *will* work on 386sx's. Just don't try to compile a kernel on
it...
Ken
Ben Russo wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>"Ken C. Moellman Jr." wrote:
>
>> --
>>
>> I was given an IBM 386sx16. It uses Microchannel Archetecture. I had
>> wanted to use this box for ipfwadm and such. Any chance this will work
>> for me? I've heard linux just barely has support for MicroChannel
>> Archetecture (which normally wouldn't be an issue, since microchannel is
>> dead).
>>
>> thanks,
>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
>
>You might be able to get the MCA stuff working, but I don't think you can
>use a
>386sx. I'm pretty sure you must have a DX.
>
>Linux requires the 32 bit 386 DX..
>
>
>-Ben.
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.protocols.ppp
Subject: Re: Am I stupid or am I stupid. PPP. ALMOST!!!
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 05:40:03 GMT
Who in the hell wants to learn connect scripts? Everyone who wants to
explore the joys of /etc/ppp/options and resolv.conf raise your hands!
Did you remember to last nights homework on the thrills of tail -f?
Not a lot of enthusiasm in this class..
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: things I'd pay to have developed for Linux...
Date: 29 Dec 1998 04:34:43 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 20 Dec 1998 20:24:06 GMT, Kyler Laird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
posted:
>I recently made an offer to the Purdue Linux
>Users Group - $500 if they'd develop an SMB
>server for Linux. ($200 for food to get
>started. $300 upon completion. The server
>is just a mod of SAMBA that runs from the
>command line using stdio. It's something
>that would come in handy for students here.)
>
>I haven't yet gotten a response from them,
>but I've been thinking that there should be
>a place where Linux users can "put their
>money where their mouths are." There are
>several projects I'd like to encourage and
>I suspect others would like to do the same.
>This would be a much better course of action
>than whining about things Linux doesn't do.
Try: <http://visar.csustan.edu/bazaar/bazaar.html> which describes
almost exactly what you're asking for, or the (not quite implemented)
URL below...
--
Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
-- Henry Spencer <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/fssp.html>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - "What have you contributed to Linux today?..."
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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat.list,comp.os.linux.setup
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jerry Lapham)
Subject: Re: HELP: Partitioning question
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:37:58 -0500
In <MTIh2.21530$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 12/28/98
at 10:16 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> I'm assuming that you already have Linux (RH or some distrib) already
> on your first partition. Now, if thats true, the way to access the D:
> and E: drives are to use the '-t vfat' option in the mount util.
> ie: mount -t vfat /dev/hdx /mountpoint
> As for your partitions, it depends, but most likely your D: is
> /dev/hda2 in linux, and E: is /dev/hda3, etc .. etc .. use a disk
> utility to make sure and check which each one is.
>From the quote below it looks like they may be logical partitions. Won't
that make them hda5 and hda6?
> : How can I keep/access my D and E drives (the MSDOG "extended partitions")?
-Jerry
--
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Jerry Lapham, Monroe, OH
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Written Monday, December 28, 1998 - 04:37 PM (EST)
============================================================
MR/2 Ice tag: Happiness won't buy money.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (PG)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.protocols.ppp
Subject: Re: BIG PROBLEM WITH PPP SOLVED (HANGUP AFTER LOGGING IN)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 02:21:35 GMT
Hmmm... I still have this problem after two weeks. There *must* be a
damn simple solution to this but every Linux resource seems to say:
"Ask the next guy..."
In the meantime, I've installed Win98 on the other half of the hard
time. Dailing in took all of 1 minute but Win98 has already crashed
innumerable times (and I mean innumerable). It will be nice if my
Linux ever works (the ppp part of it, that is). It's never once
crashed.
I tried wvdial but it also ended with the dreaded "PPPDeamon quit". I
tried EZPPP but still haven't managed to install it correctly (or it
has failed to install itself correctly...) I'll try KPPP.
I printed out the PPP HOWTO. What exactly is an LCP. The HOWTO states
that using the PASSIVE switch prevents the PPPD from exiting if it
does not recieve a valid LCP from the peer. Could this be the problem?
On Mon, 28 Dec 1998 09:48:25 -0500, "Sergei Gerasenko"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>To everybody who read my previous message with the subject "Am I stupid or
>am I stupid" and who experienced the same program. it's 2 a.m. right now and
>I finally connected to my ISP. Thrilled? O.K., I still don't know why I
>couldn't connect with the scrips, but I downloaded a program called WVdial
>from http://worldvisions.ca/wvdial/ and wow!!! it worked. The program is
>very simple to use and doesn't seem to do anything fancy, but it works. So,
>try it. I wonder what command line the program issued. Best of luck.
>P.S. I still want my scripts to work, 'cause otherwise I don't have the
>sweet taste of victory.
>Sergei
>
>
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From: "Dave Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,pl.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: good office package for linux
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 22:16:37 -0600
Go to www.stardivision.com . Be advised that it is a very LARGE download.
Write down the installation key observing the capitalization. The key is
quite a mix of alpha/numeric characters. If you don't get it right, you
will download it again. After installing it, go to help and register it to
remove the 90 day limit. The best thing to do is buy the personal edition
on CD. It's cheap enough. You will need at least 32MB to really appreciate
it. It runs great on 64MB. It will occupy up to 150MB of disk space. If
you are familiar with Win95/98, you will be very comfortable with it. It
occupies a lot of space, but it does everything pretty well, even windows.
It is a serious work environment.
Dave Nelson
Mark Worsdall wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Christian Huebner
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>>David wrote:
>>>
>>> Applixware is a great office suite. The recommend 32M.
>>>
>>> Thomas F. Ewald wrote in message
>>> <01be2d20$90bf1d80$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>>> >128 MB of RAM? Are you serious? Sure that isn't just hard drive
space?
>>> >I'm new to Linux, but that sounds pretty serious!
>>> >
>>
>>Applixware is not quite my favourite. Try Star Office.
>>Its free for personal use and it can fully replace M$ Office.
>>It also is much more reliable than M$ Office
>>
>
>Where does one get it from ftp wise or is it one the Application CD from
>RedHat?
>
>
>--
>Mark Worsdall - Oh no, I've run out of underpants :(
>Home:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB site:-
http://www.worsdall.demon.co.uk
>Shadow:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB site:- http://www.shadow.org.uk
>Work:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB site:-
http://www.hinwick.demon.co.uk
>TCP/IP gatewaying http://www.hinwick.demon.co.uk/computerDept/
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From: Mike Werner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: help! mounting cdrom!
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 04:13:12 GMT
vancaf wrote:
> I use RHL 5.1 and I want to mount my cd-rom, but I can't... I used command:
> mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom , only response I get is " mount= fs
> type iso9960 not supported by kernel".. any solutions?
Sure. Recompile your kernel with ISO9660 support. According to your
error message, that file system is not supported by your kernel.
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