Linux-Misc Digest #391, Volume #18               Tue, 29 Dec 98 05:13:12 EST

Contents:
  Re: Not enough space to receive mail (Alexey Kats)
  Re: Deleting /var/log/messages... (junker)
  Re: spreadsheet? (John Overton)
  Star Office registation key,  Re: good office package for linux ("Cameron Spitzer")
  Re: Cloning Linux Systems (Leslie Mikesell)
  Re: Quake II for Linux (Mark Worsdall)
  Re: Downloading HOWTO (Feng Chang)
  Re: Anti-Linux FUD (Steve Mading)
  ISA/PCI Networking (Jim Finney)
  Re: Anti-Linux FUD (David Steuber)
  Re: Anti-Linux FUD (David Damerell)
  Re: Anti-Linux FUD (David Steuber)
  Re: bash error message ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  How to use Find (Daniel Bredy)
  Re: A crazy idea (FTP install via null modem?) (Rick Moen)
  Re: The goal of Open Source (David Steuber)
  Re: When will kernel 2.2 be released? (David Steuber)
  Re: making computer easyer too use and are unix better then windowes (David Steuber)
  Re: Am I stupid or am I stupid. PPP. ALMOST!!! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  multi-boot using scsi id (Bryan Bartone)
  What is the difference between glibc2.0.6 and libc5 (Daniel Bredy)

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From: Alexey Kats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Not enough space to receive mail
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 19:13:38 -0800

Hi,

Mark Wright wrote:
> 
> When I try to get e-mail from my ISP, fetchmail complains that there
> is not enough space for my larger e-mails.  I must have partitioned my
> system poorly (like most Linux newbies, I found the partitioning
> process mysterious).  How do I move the mail directories to a new
> partition?
> 

Well, if you don't like hard work you can do the following: move
/var/mail (or /var/spool/mail, whatever) to new location (probably
somewhere under /usr directory), be sure that you are logged in as root
for this operation, and then create SOFT link (NOT HARD LINK!!!) from
the old place to new. For example it could look like

login: root
password:

# cd /var/spool
# rm -f /usr/share/mail
# cp -fpRP mail /usr/share
# rm -fr mail
# ln -s /usr/share/mail mail
# ^D

Of course, it's only example. Your case can vary.

-- 
Bye
Alexey Kats
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: junker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Deleting /var/log/messages...
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 00:10:20 -0500

Charles Stack wrote:
> 
> What is the proper method for deleting the /var/log/messages logfile?  I
> know I read it somewhere and now can't find the reference.
> 
> Finally, what is the best way to setup ftpd so that it can see my CD-ROM?  I
> am assuming that I should place a link in /home/ftp/pub pointing to the
> mount point on the CD-ROM.  Is this correct?  Is so, how do I do this?
> 
> TIA,
> 
> Charles

echo>/var/log/messages

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From: John Overton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: spreadsheet?
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 07:20:57 GMT

Thanks for the note.  Where?  I just checked news.answers, searching for 
'spread' and did'nt find anything related.  Can you point me somewhere
else?

Thanks,
John


> It was the Mon, 28 Dec 1998 12:52:04 GMT, John Overton...
> ..and <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I'm looking for a good spreadsheet?  Does a FAQ exist?  Or can someone
> > point me at something?
> 
> Recently, I saw a spreadsheet FAQ in news.answers.
> 
> There was a whole section about free and commercial Linux spreadsheets.
> 
> mawa
> -- 
> Matthias Warkus    |    [EMAIL PROTECTED]    |    Dyson Spheres for sale!
> My Geek Code is no longer in my .signature. It's available on e-mail request.
> It's sad to live in a world where knowing how to program your VCR actually
> lowers your social status...

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From: "Cameron Spitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Star Office registation key,  Re: good office package for linux
Date: 29 Dec 1998 07:35:46 GMT

In article <1JYh2.310$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Dave Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Go to www.stardivision.com .  Be advised that it is a very LARGE download.
>Write down the installation key observing the capitalization.  The key is
>quite a mix of alpha/numeric characters.  If you don't get it right, you
>will download it again.

Just a minor nit here.  The Staroffice 5.0 download file is indeed
huge, and it may take you a couple of tries to get the registration key
right, but you only have to download the big file once.

The first time I tried it, I spelled my last name wrong on the registration
and it didn't match the name I gave the install script.
When I tried it again and gave the registration Web form and
the SO% installer EXACTLY the same data, they worked.
Apparently there is a hash of your name and address in the
registration key, and the installer looks for it.

Also, the first time I tried it, Netscrape 3.01's pathetic Java
crashed the browser on the verification stuff in Star Division's form.
Works okay on Communicator 4.05.

Cameron

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Subject: Re: Cloning Linux Systems
Date: 28 Dec 1998 23:00:09 -0600

In article <768rtm$689$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>I am having a problem in cloning a Linux installation to other computers.  I
>have set up a system and configured it "Just right" and now want to duplicate
>this on other boxes.  I am using the DOS based program "ghost" from Symantec
>to get a copy of this image.  When I try to clone this image to another
>computer that has different hard drive parameters, LILO chokes and dies and
>the only thing that it shows before it hangs is:
>
>LI
>
>
>The cursor will sit there and blink and the system is completely frozen.  Is
>there any way that I can get around using a different size hard drive with a
>different geometry for the target system?
>
>Is there any other way to do this?  I have thought about using the "dd"
>command, but that brings up two other problems.
>1.) I have to have working Linux system to use it.
>2.) If there are errors on the target hard drive, the "dd" won't know about
>this.
>
>Any Suggestions?

If you connect the new HD to the same machine as the source, first
fdisk the new partitions, mke2fs them and mount them somewhere.
Then for each non-swap partition:
 cp -a --one-file-system /old /new
where /old is the source filesystem mount point and /new is the matching
destination.
Next, if the new machine will not be an exact match in the way the
partitions are mounted, edit the copied /etc/fstab to reflect the
new device names.  You may need to make corresponding changes to
the copied /etc/lilo.conf.  Make a proc directory on what will be the new
root partition. Then either run lilo with the options that tell it you
are going to move the drive or (easier, I think) move the drive to the
new machine and use a boot floppy to bring it up the first time, then
run /sbin/lilo to make the HD bootable.
There are other ways of doing the file system copies - tar copies 
on tape or over a network will if you have a boot floppy with some
tools to run from RAMdisk or install enough of the system to get started.

  Les Mikesell
    [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Mark Worsdall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Quake II for Linux
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 03:47:22 +0000

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mark Worsdall
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>Hi,
>
>There seems to be many Quake files within the id ftp site for linux all
>rather big.
>
>I am downloading:- quake2-3.20-i386-unknown-linux2.0.tar.gz
>
>Is this the only one and the correct one to download?
>
>
>Once I have it, can some one send a few commands necessary to install
>quakeII from this archive.
>
>Like where best to store it and what to do?
>

Should I download the glibc linux file aswell?



-- 
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TCP/IP gatewaying http://www.hinwick.demon.co.uk/computerDept/

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From: Feng Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Downloading HOWTO
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 07:26:16 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Mading)
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: Anti-Linux FUD
Date: 28 Dec 1998 23:34:39 -0600

Victor Danilchenko ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

: Egoism:               export DEITY=`whoami`
: Deism:                export DEITY=/dev/null

That should be: export DEITY=/bin/init
(Diety just exists for the sake of getting the universe started, and
setting some operational things in place, and thereafter it just sits
back and waits for its grand work to finish, not interferring.)
(DEITY=/bootkernel might make sense for deism too - Deity just creates
the laws of physics and then sits back and waits for them to get used.)

: Atheism:      export DEITY=

With my redefinition of Deism's DEITY up above, I'd then use /dev/null
for atheism.  Nullstring might make more sense for agnosticism (Deity is
an undefined value).  If you were using csh examples instead of sh
examples, then unsetenv DEITY would be good for agnosticism.  (Or perhaps,
DEITY=$RANDOM.)

: Satanism:     export DEITY=/proc/666

That's what runs all the daemons.

: Xianity:      export DEITY=/son:/father:/spook
: Islam:                for i in `printenv | cut -d= -f1`; do export $i= ; done; export
: DEITY="allah"
: Roman paganism:       import DEITY
: Hinduism:     export DEITY=$DEITY (or true recursive def, perhaps?.. in
: C?..)
: Buddhism:     export DEITY=`umount /`
: Taoism:               export DEITY=`cat core`

:       etc...

-- 
Steve Mading:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.execpc.com/~madings


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From: Jim Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: ISA/PCI Networking
Date: 29 Dec 1998 05:51:16 GMT

Hello,

I cannot get my Linksys ISA 10mb lan card to be recognized by the
RedHat5.1 installation program.  I am trying to install it in a 100mHz
Compaq and it is telling me that it "cannot find the device anywhere on
the system".  I have tried several different IRQ and I/O settings but
have not had success.  The card is recognized and works OK under Windows
98.  It is an older machine with an ISA/PCI bridge in it.  It supposedly
will accept both ISA and PCI cards.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Jim...

--

Jim Finney
==============================
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.x,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Anti-Linux FUD
Date: 28 Dec 1998 19:11:07 -0500

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony Ord) writes:

> On Sun, 27 Dec 1998 08:00:13 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin
> Skj=F6ldebrand) wrote:
> >
> >Coming in late on this thread I can't really see why this is a BAD
> >THING. As long as uninstalling tarballs is a pain why not use an
> >each-program-in-its-own-dir modell?
> =

> Just as a general hint. Change the modification date on every
> executable file in the tarball to something like 1/1/1983. If you need
> to remove it later, you can use 'find' to pick them up.

If you make a habit of holding onto the tar file like I do, you can do =

something like:

tar tvf tarfile.tar | xargs rm

DISCLAIMER: The above is not tested for this posting.  Use at your own =

peril.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Damerell)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.x,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Anti-Linux FUD
Date: 29 Dec 1998 08:55:32 +0000 (GMT)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>John Winters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>Which programs in the sbin directories would "normal" users want
>>>in their path?
>>traceroute can be very useful.
>It belongs in /usr/bin.

Agreed; but there are a number of commands in sbin directories that normal
but technically oriented users might want to use occasionally, and if you
moved them all to bin directories, it would make the arrangement of things
very confusing. (Obviously, traceroute is felt to be one of these - I
disagree.)

Looking at chiark I see; ifconfig kernelversion killall5 mkdosfs modinfo
restore dump arp - not many, but you'd be confused if ifconfig moved to
/bin, I expect.

>If some distribution puts it into an sbin,

Don't they all?
-- 
David/Kirsty Damerell.                       [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~damerell/ w.sp.lic.#pi<largestprime>.2106
|___|       NetHack players of the world unite! You have nothing       |___|
| | |        to lose but your blessed rustproof +2 iron chains!        | | |

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From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: Anti-Linux FUD
Date: 28 Dec 1998 18:43:22 -0500

Victor Danilchenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>       I am sure that if I say something totally off-the-wall, others will
> correct me...
> 
> P.S. This is in addition to the fact that Unix, being more mature, is
> inherently more stable.

Linux was written from scratch, so its stability can not be attributed
to the stability of Unix.

However, unlike Microsoft, Linus et al learned from the experiences of 
25+ years of Unix.  Hell, Microsoft had a good original design for
NT.  They never implimented it.  Rather than sticking with a 'micro'
kernal and modular subsustems, they tangled everything together.  A
good idea gone bad, you might say.

It is not just the registry that makes Windows unstable.  Many
programs, especially ones from Microsoft, dump system dlls in the
%SYSTEM% tree when you install them.  This includes all those games
that use the DirectX APIs.  The practical upshot of all this is that
the very OS is being modified by user space programs.

Linux is avoiding those problems by using package managers and NOT
trashing the system .so files when installing regular software.

It is the modularity and independance of subsytems that helps Linux be 
really stable.  That and paying attention to history.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: bash error message
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 19:55:30 GMT

Mike Detlefsen wrote:
> I'm getting an error message when I log into any account that goes:
>
> bash: ecport: command not found
>
> Now, I deduce that in some script I have misspelled 'export' as
> 'ecport'.

Look in /etc/profile.
-- 
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI

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From: Daniel Bredy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to use Find
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 01:23:32 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject says it all -- how do I use this damn command so that I can find

a file which a program I am trying to install seems to think doesn't
exist.
As is usual with Linux commands the man pages are a great help --- NOT!

Please send e-mail as I rarely read this group.

Thanks,

Dan


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From: Rick Moen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: A crazy idea (FTP install via null modem?)
Date: 29 Dec 1998 07:50:16 GMT

[Followups snipped.  Pick _one_ newsgroup.]

In comp.os.linux.setup JD Weiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:     See the subject for my crazy idea.  I was pondering installation
: under difficult situations, and I came across
: http://electron.phys.dal.ca/PPP-HOWTO-27.html  It got me
: thinking...would it be possible, during setup, to start a null modem
: connection, and use that link to do an FTP install?  I realize you
: might have to make a custom boot disk containing pppd, but I've heard
: of people doing PLIP installs, so I wondered if this was possible.

Of course it's _possible_, but then you have to take care of 
getty configurations, which are varied and potentially painful.
The reason people don't _do_ what you suggest is that PLIP is
faster and easier to deal with.

-- 
Cheers,                   The cynics among us might say:   "We laugh, 
Rick Moen                 monkeyboys -- Linux IS the mainstream UNIX now!
rick (at) linuxmafia.com  MuaHaHaHa!" but that would be rude. -- Jim Dennis

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From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The goal of Open Source
Date: 28 Dec 1998 23:22:26 -0500

Victor Danilchenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> P.S. The term "intellectual property" is just as misleading as many
> other terms -- one man's "terrorist" is another man's "freedom fighter",
> and "software piracy" is not piracy. Every time you use the term
> "intellectual property", you are comitting a very subtle form of the
> strawman fallacy.

I think the problem is really a lot more complex than you make it out
to be.  There are lots of different copy-rightable 'things' out there
beyond computer software.  I am not a lawyer, so I can't be precise
about what is legally protected by copyright law and what isn't.  But
since we are talking more along the lines of philosophy here, I don't
think that matters.

Among others, copyrighted productions include the following:

Books, and other printed materials.
Audio recordings and performances.
Motion Picture recordings and performances.
Computer software.
Paintings.
Cartoons and Comics.

Some of these things are very expensive to produce.  Some are also
expensive to distribute.  Others are expensive to produce while being
inexpensive to copy and distribute.  Nothing is produced without some
cost.

The original intent for copyright law in the United States
Constitution was "To promote the progress of science and useful arts,
by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive
right to their respective writings and discoveries;" <Article 1, Sec 8 
para 8>.  Under current law (USA), patents now last 20 years from the
time of application and copyright lasts 50 years post mortem the
original author.  Notice that this is in the First Article, not in the 
Ammendments.  That doesn't increase its importance.  It merely
reflects the fact that it was thought of sooner.

Promoting the progress of science and the useful arts is a good
thing.  The means is questionable.  Some things, like movies, are
expensive productions.  Investors expect a return on their
investment.  They won't make this investment if there is no provision
for protecting their work.  The same thing applies to inventing new
gadgets.  So from that point of view at least, providing exclusive
rights seems like the right thing to do.

On the topic of software, we are really in one hell of a neutral grey
area.  Exactly what is source code?  Is it a writing?  It is under
current copyright law.  That begs the question, how many ways are
there to implement quick-sort?  How about the MD5 hash?  Are these
different ways translations of the original work?  Are they plagerism?
Or are they saying something else?  But the end result is the same.

Maybe software is something else.  Some algorithms are patented.  Look 
at LZW.  GIF uses that algorithm for its compression.  If you want to
support GIF in a commercial application, you have to pay a fee to
Unisys, the current holder of the patent.  Strangely, the framers of
the US Constitution probably assumed inventors would produce gadgets,
not an algorithm.  So, no matter how you implement LZW, you have to
pay the license fee.

Computer code is both writing and machine.  This means that the
author(s) can get a lot of 'protection' with copyright and patents.
This is an exclusive right on a list of instructions.  To me it seems
like you can get a patent on long division if you think of it first.
You can copyright a process that implements it.  And because of the
swiftness with which technology moves, the 'limited' time might as
well be for all eternity.  In other words, the law itself may be
defeating its own purpose.  It stifles the progress of science and
useful art.

So is congress obliged to change the law?  No.  The constitution
merely grants them the power, not the obligation in this case.  Even
if congress does decide to change the law, again, what is the best way 
to achieve the goal of progress?

RMS did something pretty clever when he wrote the GPL.  I don't agree
with everything he says, and I won't get into any quibbles now.  But
look at what the GPL does.  It requires that all the source from GPL'd 
code be made available.  It requires that derived works make their
source available.  In other words, once the best quick-sort routine is
written, it doesn't have to be written any more, except to port it to
another platform.  This applies to more complex code under GPL.  In
theory, the result of this is that fundamental computing algorithms
don't have to be coded over and over again.  We can move onto new
algorithms.  We can glue together the existing algorithms to create
real programs.

The same thing can be done with patents.  However, that shouldn't be
so necessary as it is supposed to be impossible to patent prior art.
However, the patent office has been known to not do its homework.

So what does the ISV who wants to write and sell proprietary software
do?  Well, he can't use any GPL code in his product.  He has to buy or 
implement all of his own algorithms.  In other words, his software
production costs are higher than an ISV that uses GPL and sells
services or distributions.

Maybe copyright does work after all, if used properly.

Of course, GPL isn't the only way to go.  There are other licenses
that allow derivative works without distributing source.  *BSD and
Perl use them.  There is also public domain source out there which is
the least restrictive of all.

So what is this intellectual property that we call software?  The
binary form is a BFN.  I don't think it is really right to put a
copyright on something that existed prior to the 'author'.  In Turing
terms, the source could also be considered a BFN too.  However, people 
often take pride in their words.  It would seem impolite to steal
their words with out at least giving them due credit.  I don't think
this is an issue that will be settled by law.  It is too big.  It also 
won't be settled by force.  It is immovable.  I think natural evolution 
will settle the issue.  My hunch is that open source will prevail,
probably in more than one form.  It has a more dynamic sex life.

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From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: When will kernel 2.2 be released?
Date: 28 Dec 1998 20:57:25 -0500

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Filip M. Gieszczykiewicz) writes:

> (what scares the crap out of me is the Navy moving their fleet from
> [stable] unix systems to NT... [shivvvvvver])

You can't expect a smart fleet without a digital nervous disorder...

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From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: making computer easyer too use and are unix better then windowes
Date: 28 Dec 1998 23:56:24 -0500

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (J=F8rgen Spangen) writes:

> EVRYTHING IS JUST A SATE OF MIND =


You quoted 227 lines just to say this?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.protocols.ppp
Subject: Re: Am I stupid or am I stupid. PPP. ALMOST!!!
Date: 28 Dec 1998 13:54:18 -0800

In article <768tsn$ig2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>
>In article <766p8s$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>People brag and shout how wonderfull and powerfull UNIX is, yet when it
>>comes to a common task such as this, it failes on its face, becuase no
>>one wants to write a simple GUI tool to automate this task once and for
>>all. (no, I am not going to write this tool, becuase I am not the
>>one who is screeming how wonderfull Linux is).
>
>Errr, RedHat includes at least 2 fill-in-the form tools for this
>and there are a couple of others available from the usual places.
>I've never had any trouble with one you find from the network
>icon in the RedHat control-panel.
>

this did not work for me (red hat 5.2).
filled in the blanks. the connection hangs right after connecton is made,
some error about PAM and authorization.
never had this problem on windoz though. there it just works everytime.
btw, the dial-out GUI is even better designed and looks better on 
windows than the control panel thing on linux.

Steve.
 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bryan Bartone)
Subject: multi-boot using scsi id
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 22:20:54 -0500

Hi --

I would like to be able to boot one of several OS's simply by choosing
the boot device in the SCSI bios.  Here is an example:

disk 0) Linux (lilo in MBR)
disk 1) Windows NT (NTLDR in MBR)
disk 2) Solaris x86 (Solaris boot manager in MBR)

During the boot phase I enter the SCSI bios and set the bootable device
to 0 for linux, or 1 for NT, or 2 for Solaris.  This seems to make sense
to me.  I tried this with just linux and NT.  NT seemed to have a
problem with the BIOS device number being incorrect.  In general will
this solution work?  Am I limited to specific OS's and hardware? How is
the BIOS device number determined for an all SCSI system?

Your input will be appreciated.




-- 
Bryan S. Bartone


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From: Daniel Bredy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: What is the difference between glibc2.0.6 and libc5
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 01:33:43 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject says it all. When I installed Slakware Linux I was told that the
C libraries where what's
called libc5, and that that Redhat used glibc2 which is where Linux is
heading? What's
the difference between the two, and what exactly are they used from?

Linux Newbie

Dan


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