Linux-Misc Digest #491, Volume #18 Wed, 6 Jan 99 11:13:08 EST
Contents:
Re: SAP-GUI (Christopher Browne)
Re: Why is GNOME not called a window manager? (Christopher Browne)
Re: Emacs problem under AfterStep ("Raj R. Singh")
Re: ssh rpm? (J.H.M. Dassen (Ray))
Re: Anti-Linux FUD (Floyd Davidson)
SATAN INSTALLATION (Michael Tse)
Re: good office package for linux (Michel Catudal)
Re: afterStep with Linux 5.2 (rosie)
Undefined module symbols -- please help (Jesse Hughes)
Help!! We are looking for a new database system. (Joey Merrell)
Root RAID for Linux (was IDE RAID controllers for Linux) (Yan Seiner)
Re: good office package for linux (Michel Catudal)
Re: Encyclopaedia for Linux. (Rob Clark)
smail questions (Panajotis Karajannis)
Re: Excel to HTML converter? (Filip Hosten)
Restricting directory access with Apache (Mark Robinson)
HowTo Disable TextMode Screen Blanking (IG)
sound on Compaq 560 ("Clarence Hart Jr.")
StarOffice and Visio? (Kyle R Maxwell)
Re: Linux drivers for IOMEGA zip drive ("J�rgen Exner")
Re: Anti-Linux FUD (Floyd Davidson)
Re: QMAIL question - Where is my email disappearing to? (Chip Rose.)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: SAP-GUI
Date: 6 Jan 1999 02:06:28 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 06 Jan 1999 00:20:12 +0100, Karl Esau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>the only thing that I still miss is a Linux SAP-GUI for SAP R/3.
>SAP delivers X/GUIs for nearly every commercial Unix.
>
>Is there either a Linux SAP-GUI or is it possible to emulate X11
>for AIX, HPUX or DIGITAL Unix binaries on Linux?
I have run the Digital UNIX binaries on an OSF/1 box, and exported the
display to a Linux box. That's not the answer you wanted; the straight
answer is that *none* of the existing Motif-based binaries will run on
Linux. The packaging tools that SAP AG uses don't run happily on Linux;
that notably includes any attempt to run the Digital UNIX version on
Linux/Alpha. (I haven't had opportunity to try Linux/SPARC :-).)
There is rumor of someone getting a Windows version of SAPGUI running
atop WINE; I haven't had success thus far.
--
"640K ought to be enough for anybody" -- Bill Gates - 1981
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Why is GNOME not called a window manager?
Date: 6 Jan 1999 02:06:26 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 05 Jan 1999 23:43:04 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shalu1) wrote:
>> Silly question, I know, but please enlighten me.
>> Is it because it runs on "top" of X11?
>> Thanks
>>
>X11 is a library which implements windowing mechanism. Since
>all things portable run on X11, your thesis cannot be valid.
>
>Gnome is a windows manager, the apps, and the policies. It is
>more than a window manager. Perhaps it is also a way of life.
>Perhaps that is the reason why the Gnome people tend not to
>want to explain it too much.
Minor problem...
GNOME is *not* a window manager.
It doesn't manage windows in the X System.
It leaves that to a separate program, called a window manager, that
functions in the same fashion as other X window managers.
GNOME is much harder to see, in that the things about GNOME that are
important are not necessarily visible.
--> It provides a common set of libraries for use by applications,
including ones for manipulating data structures, XML files, and
configuration files.
--> It further intends to provide a "canvas" system so that applications
that need to print things can use the "GNOME Canvas," and thereby get
both visible output, and printable output.
--> It uses CORBA as a dynamic layer through which various sorts of
functionality may be registered, addressed, and interfaced.
--> It seeks to provide interfaces whereby applications can provide
scripting "for free."
These are the *REALLY IMPORTANT* parts of GNOME. Note that there's only
one of the above-mentioned items that represents something that you'd be
able to look at and see.
People have mistaken the fixation of the not-dissimilar KDE Project on
Qt, and, of some proponents of GNOME, on the GTk GUI toolkit, for being
representative of something important.
--
"640K ought to be enough for anybody" -- Bill Gates - 1981
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
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From: "Raj R. Singh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,comp.emacs.help,gnu.emacs.help
Subject: Re: Emacs problem under AfterStep
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 09:35:20 +0000
Afterstep screws with CTRL-V. For versions after 1.4(?) you need to edit
your "feel"
file, in $HOME/GNUstep/Library/AfterStep/feels/<yourfeelfile> (hint: the
binding
is at the bottom of the file).
For earlier versions, edit your .steprc file.
--
-Raj ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
***interesting .sig file coming soon***
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J.H.M. Dassen (Ray))
Subject: Re: ssh rpm?
Date: 6 Jan 1999 12:42:55 GMT
Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>> "Dan" == <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Dan> I looked at a couple mirror sites, sdcc33.ucsd.edu and
> Dan> meta-something-or-other and couldn't find it. Does this exist
> Dan> or does it have a special name? Much obliged.
>
>The ssh distribution site is ftp.cs.hut.fi /pub/ssh. I don't know about
>any rpms. They just have tarballs.
Replay has SSH RPMs; see http://www.replay.com/redhat/ .
HTH,
Ray
--
POPULATION EXPLOSION Unique in human experience, an event which happened
yesterday but which everyone swears won't happen until tomorrow.
- The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Floyd Davidson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Anti-Linux FUD
Date: 6 Jan 1999 12:21:18 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
David Damerell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Matthew Kirkwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>On 5 Jan 1999, David Damerell wrote:
>>>>Having sbin directories in a normal users path is not required in
>>>>order for a normal user to know the system's IP address.
>>>What's a better way to do it than 'ifconfig', then?
>>host `hostname`
>
>That tells you what the DNS or /etc/hosts thinks the IP addresses of
>your machine are, or perhaps a subset thereof - useful information, but
>not the same as the set of IP addresses your machine's network interfaces
>are actually using.
The command "/sbin/ifconfig<RETURN>" will indeed get exactly
that information. There is no need to put "/sbin" in that
user's PATH.
I am hard pressed to understand why a normal user that is not
doing systems admin work would need to know the IP addresses for
individual interfaces. What value is that knowledge?
Floyd
--
Floyd L. Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pictures of the North Slope at <http://www.ptialaska.net/~floyd>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Tse)
Subject: SATAN INSTALLATION
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 13:23:09 GMT
HI:
I have installed SATAN in my Linux box. When I enter SATAN, NETSCAPE
also run and the control panel web page appear as follows:
SATAN CONTROL PANEL
1.SATAN DATA MANAGEMENT
2.SATAN TARGET SELECTION
3.SATAN REPORTING AND DATA ANALYSIS
4.SATAN CONFIGURATION MANAGEMENT
5.SATAN DOCUMENTATION
6.SATAN TROUBLESHOOTING
However, I cannot link to Item 1 to 4. I check that the link for item
2 is http://jack.com/satan-1.1.1.html/running/satan-run-form.pl where
jack,com is my box name. WHY??
I cannor run satan in mu box. Please help.
Thank
MIKE
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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,pl.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: good office package for linux
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 03:16:14 +0000
"Peter T. Caffin" wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.misc Christian Huebner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > David wrote:
> >> Applixware is a great office suite. The recommend 32M.
> >> Thomas F. Ewald wrote in message
> >> <01be2d20$90bf1d80$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > Applixware is not quite my favourite. Try Star Office.
>
> I haven't tried Applixware yet. Next priority :).
>
> > Its free for personal use and it can fully replace M$ Office.
> > It also is much more reliable than M$ Office
>
> The 'minimum' RAM required for Star Office 5.0 is 32M (I've tried 16M with
> swap.. forget it) but it apparently likes 48M and up.
>
> Word Perfect 8 is running nicely on this machine with 16M, however, it
> doesn't have the full quota of utilities, file filters, etc. It's great as
> a general word processor tho :).
Except that the \ is replaced by a ? and the ? is not replaced by a \
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (rosie)
Subject: Re: afterStep with Linux 5.2
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 06:23:00 GMT
On 5 Jan 1999 14:24:06 GMT, Sanjay Poria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>afterstep doesn't seem to create a
> ~/GNUstep/Library/AfterStep/start menu structure when i run it.
>It only created a ~/GNUstep/Library/AfterStep/non-configurable
>subdirectory which means that I cannot configure it to my preference.
>
>If anyone has suggestions, please let me know.
>
>thanks
>sanjay
try looking in /usr/share/afterstep...you'll find all the necessary
directories and files to configure afterstep (i.e. wharf)
rosie
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From: Jesse Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Undefined module symbols -- please help
Date: 06 Jan 1999 08:42:16 -0500
My earlier post got no replies, so I'll repost.
I think this may be a simple problem. When I try to run modprobe on
any module, I see the following result:
root:/$ modprobe dummy
gcc2_compiled. undefined
Failed to load module! The symbols from kernel 2.0.36 don't match 2.0.36
Any clues, please?
Thanks.
--
Jesse Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/user/jesse/jesse.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joey Merrell)
Subject: Help!! We are looking for a new database system.
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 09:39:57 -0800
Gleim Publications, Inc. (www.gleim.com) is a
publisher of accounting and aviation test prep books,
software, and audio�s in Gainesville, Florida. Gleim
needs a new customer database/order entry/inventory
control office system.
Currently we have an SCO OpenServer 5 using
Unify 2000 database and an Accell/SQL 4GL front-end
developed in-house. We would very much like to
abandon SCO and run the new database system on either
RedHat 5.x (preferred) or NetWare 5.x. The front end
must be 32-bit Windows compatible.
General requirements:
Store customer records, sales history, etc for
10,000+customer base
Process 500 to 1,000 orders daily (phone,
mail, Internet)
Must be customizable in an up-to-date
programming language
JDBC and ODBC drivers� available/compatible
with database
Inventory general ledger, payroll, marketing,
data extraction, custom queries etc.
Four-tier setup currently in use:
1. Order Entry
2. Order Processing
3. Utilities
4. Desktop
1. Order Entry. Upon customer call, normal
information about the customer is gathered and entered
into the database. If the customer is a reseller,
then we must be able to "attach" multiple contacts via
additional table to the client to track who is placing
the current order.
2. Order Processing. Only a few personnel to
review orders before they are shipped and to perform
day-to-day maintenance on tables use this. From here,
custom reports are printed, including reports on the
number of orders processed and shipped, exception
reports, new client reports, inventory and sales
reports, backorder reports and letters, shipping
manifests, invoices, posting reports, packing slips,
etc.
3. Utilities. Used to manipulate inventory
and similar items in the tables. Basically, manual
manipulation/review of all tables in the database.
Used only by a few people and is very limited.
4. Desktop. This is a separate listing of
clients that are colleges and universities. It
contains the institution, the professors at the
institution, and the bookstores that service the
institution. This is currently linked to the other
customer records but could be very carefully combined
with the main database so that it would not need to be
a separate subsystem.
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From: Yan Seiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Root RAID for Linux (was IDE RAID controllers for Linux)
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 06:53:23 -0500
The only software root-RAID5 I've found for Linux has some horrible kludges
for booting, and the software is in alpha.
Do you have any sources for RAID5 software other than what's in the HOWTOs?
Thanks.
Yan
James Youngman wrote:
You can do this with Software RAID under Linux nowadays. Including hot
reconstruction.
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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,pl.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: good office package for linux
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 03:19:42 +0000
Dave Nelson wrote:
>
> Go to www.stardivision.com . Be advised that it is a very LARGE download.
> Write down the installation key observing the capitalization. The key is
> quite a mix of alpha/numeric characters. If you don't get it right, you
> will download it again. After installing it, go to help and register it to
> remove the 90 day limit. The best thing to do is buy the personal edition
> on CD. It's cheap enough. You will need at least 32MB to really appreciate
> it. It runs great on 64MB. It will occupy up to 150MB of disk space. If
> you are familiar with Win95/98, you will be very comfortable with it. It
> occupies a lot of space, but it does everything pretty well, even windows.
> It is a serious work environment.
>
There is no way in hell that could be downloaded, the line will go
dead way before it's done. What we need is to be able to get it
with NcFTP. Anyone who put huge file like that on the web is brain
dead. Most people are not using a satellite or cable hookup. Most
of us are stuck with shitty phone lines. At best we could get the
file at 98%.
--
Tann� du plantage avec Ti-Mou?
Alors essayez donc Linux ou OS/2
http://www.netonecom.net/~bbcat/
We have software, food, music, news, search,
history, electronics and genealogy pages.
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Subject: Re: Encyclopaedia for Linux.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob Clark)
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 03:21:47 GMT
>2) Does anyone know how to figure out the file format that EB uses so I
>can write my own front-end if necessary? The CD is stamped with an
>"RC4 symmetric Stream Cipher" logo, and comes with a 12-digit license key
>that is needed by the installation software (which didn't work at first,
>when I called tech support they gave me a second one, without needing to
>know the first one, so perhaps there are multiple keys to unlock it).
There is probably a third-party company who provides this program to EB
and similar programs to other "content providers." They would be the ones
to ask about the format of the database.
You could probably try it under Wine or DOSEMU, just for laughs. I've got
CD-ROMs like this, too, and I'm beginning to resign myself to the idea of
keeping an old computer with Win 3.1 on it just to run this kind of stuff.
Out of curiosity, does the Encyclopedia Brittanica describe Bill Gates as
a "great humanitarian?" :)
Rob Clark, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Panajotis Karajannis)
Subject: smail questions
Date: 6 Jan 1999 10:53:51 GMT
Hi !
When smail tries to send a message to a smart-host it gives:
mail from: panos@my-host
however the message is rejected because the line must be:
mail from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How can be done this ?
Also I want the smail MTA to use syslog for logging.
Is there any other MTA, better suited for dial-up connections ? I tried ssmtp
but it cannot handle local mail (i.e. from CRON ).
Thank you for any help.
Panos
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From: Filip Hosten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.perl.misc
Subject: Re: Excel to HTML converter?
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 14:23:50 +0100
Hi,
for those convertors, I have a question :
Is it possible to set up netscape that when you click on a doc-file, the
convertor starts and then the output is given back in netscape browser?
(some kind of plugin)
Filip
"Damon K. Haley" wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Is there an excel to html converter out there?
> I found MSWordview which does a great jobs
> of converting Word97 to html.
> http://www.gnu.org/~caolan/docs/MSWordView.html
>
> I also found this page (http://arturo.directmail.org/filters/)
> of MS converters but didn't find an excel2html
> converter that is available yet.
>
> Does anyone know of one or when one will be released?
>
> Thanks
>
> Damon Haley
--
Filip Hosten, Dep. : VE119, Alcatel Design Centre Antwerp Belgium,
Internat. phone : +32 3 240 7769,
Alcanet phone : 2 605 7769, Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Mark Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Restricting directory access with Apache
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 03:44:02 GMT
I want to restrict directory access to
/home/httpd/html/kholdan/pass/
So that it uses .htaccess and .htpasswd
Could someone send me an example of the lines I will have to add to
access.conf?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (IG)
Subject: HowTo Disable TextMode Screen Blanking
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 16:44:58 GMT
I'm using RedHat V5.2. After logging in and the current terminal
session has sat idle at the shell prompt for about 10 minutes, the
screen will go blank. I assume that this caused by a time based
blanking or poweroff setting. However when I execute the commands:
setterm -blank 0
setterm -powersave off
this does not disable this screen/console "blanking" feature. Am I
executing the wrong command? Is there another way to disable or change
this screen/console "blanking". Could this also be related to APM? If
so how could this be rectified?
Thanks for any assistance offered
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From: "Clarence Hart Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: sound on Compaq 560
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 09:37:17 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I cannot seem to get sound to work under Caldera on my Compaq 560.. I
switched to caldera
from redhat because I had the same problems.
Anyonne else have problems like this?
Clarence
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From: Kyle R Maxwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: StarOffice and Visio?
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 09:30:30 -0600
Does the Star Office drawing program support Visio files? I can't find
any mention of it on their website...
--
Kyle Maxwell
Lead Internet Installer
The Beam
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From: "J�rgen Exner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Linux drivers for IOMEGA zip drive
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 18:59:07 -0800
>In article <753i7a$3kd$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark O Thomas) wrote:
>>
>> Where can I find drivers for the Zip and Jaz drives?
You don't need any.
It's just another drive and all drivers you need are the standard drivers
as for any other HD.
jue
--
J�rgen Exner; microsoft.com, UID: jurgenex
Sorry for this anti-spam inconvenience
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Floyd Davidson)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Anti-Linux FUD
Date: 6 Jan 1999 14:27:56 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Matthew Kirkwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 6 Jan 1999, David Damerell wrote:
>
>> Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >David Damerell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>mkdosfs is in an sbin directory.
>> >But that 1) does not mean that sbin directories should be in
>> >a user's path, nor does it mean mkdosfs is needed at all!
>> >A variety of tools are available, and it varies from one
>> >system to another. I use /usr/bin/fdformat, ymmv.
>>
>> MM suggests that formatting a formatted floppy in order to make a file
>> system on it is pointless.
>>
>Worse than that, the formatting ioctl is root-only, isn't it?
>That would make fdformat a strong candidate for /usr/sbin/
If that were true, how would it make fdformat a candidate for
an sbin directory?
However, it isn't true.
Floyd
--
Floyd L. Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pictures of the North Slope at <http://www.ptialaska.net/~floyd>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chip Rose.)
Subject: Re: QMAIL question - Where is my email disappearing to?
Date: 6 Jan 1999 03:52:51 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 5 Jan 1999 12:51:14 -0800, Sam E. Trenholme
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Help! Since switching to Qmail from Sendmail (I used Redhat5.0 rpm's),
>>my email is disappearing into a black hole and I can't find any of them.
>>They used to go into ~/mail, but I've searched /var/spool and /var/qmail,
>>etc., and no luck.
>
>Try this file:
>
> ~/Mailbox
>
>Also, look in /var/log/maillog to see if there are any delivery problems.
>
=============================
I don't have a ~/Mailbox directory. I installed using the qmail rpm.
Here's what is in my /var/log/maillog:
ian 3 10:37:25 localhost qmail: 915377845.624940 alert: cannot start:
unable to switch to queue directory
Jan 3 12:39:58 localhost qmail: 915385198.683298 alert: cannot start:
unable to switch to queue directory
Jan 4 18:17:45 localhost qmail: 915491865.412881 alert: cannot start:
unable to switch to queue directory >
I'm still busily reading up on it. Feels like I'm getting closer - thanks!
Chip Rose.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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