Linux-Misc Digest #490, Volume #18 Wed, 6 Jan 99 08:13:07 EST
Contents:
Newbie asks: why Linux? (Gerhard Traeger)
Re: Why is GNOME not called a window manager? (Victor Danilchenko)
Password protect dirs (Mark Robinson)
Re: Install problem - Redhat Linux on Maxtor HD ("Jay Bramble")
Re: Anti-Linux FUD (David Damerell)
Re: Anti-Linux FUD (David Damerell)
K6-2 vs. P2 for g77 under Linux ("G. Hugh SONG")
Re: Anti-Linux FUD (David Damerell)
Re: Intel EtherExpress Pro/100B Problem (Alex Parfenov)
Re: Anti-Linux FUD (Tim Smith)
Re: Linux: Fight for survival or on victory march? (David Steuber)
Re: NOSPAM in addresses.. (Michael Powe)
Re: Linux: Fight for survival or on victory march? (David Steuber)
Re: help me choose license (David Steuber)
Re: Can't have fetchmail working (David Steuber)
rpm probs under RedHat 5.1 (Kyle R Maxwell)
Re: QMAIL question - Where is my email disappearing to? (Michael Powe)
Re: ssh rpm? (Michael Powe)
automatic startx under SuSE 5.3? (steve mcadams)
Re: 2038 and Linux (Christopher Browne)
Re: Anti-Linux FUD (BR)
Re: Howto signal incoming mail (biff?) ("Mould")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gerhard Traeger)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Newbie asks: why Linux?
Date: 6 Jan 1999 12:30:09 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] asked:
> Perhaps some of you could put my mind at ease as to whether or not
> Linux is an OS for programmers only. ... I do a good deal of image
> processing
As you seem to want to avoid close contact with your computer internals,
why do you first ask for OS?
I would expect you to ask for specific applications and possible OSes
for them and then compare scenarios, including the fact that not all
applications need to run on the same machine. The last point is trivial
for multisession systems like Linux/Unix/VMS, but is possible with WinNT
too. Things like WINDD from Tektronix let you remotely access WinNT,
Exceed from Hummingird gives you an X-server on WinNT to interface with
solaris, linux ... applications.
By "image processing" do you mean "image manipulation"? You may try
gimp/linux.
Mean "computer vision"? This can hardly be done without programming
skills.
I do "computer vision". There is my own "does everything" C++-hacked
programm running on my local linux box. As a standard image processing
tool I remotely run KBVision from AAI on a sun ultra. The third virtual
screen shows things like Lotus Notes, M$Access and M$Word which run on
an WinNT server with WINDD. In the background nntp, nfsd, samba and
apache run to satisfy our departments internal information needs.
There is no need for programming skills to get this configuration up
and running. But without the need to write my own programs, i would hardly
have done it.
cu,
gerhard.
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Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 17:05:38 -0500
From: Victor Danilchenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why is GNOME not called a window manager?
"Mat�as Orchard V." wrote:
>
> How can I use the logout from gnome panel to get out of XWindows?
Make gnome your X controller process. To do that, edit your .xsession
or .xinitrc so as gnome panel is the last line in the file, and all
other lines end in "&" (run in background). This way, once you log out
of the gnome panel, you log of your X session.
something like:
xbif &
dclock &
afterstep &
gnome-panel
--
| Victor A. Danilchenko CSCF support |
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] A313, 5-4231 |
+--------------------------------------------+
| Quando omni flunkus, moritati. |
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From: Mark Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Password protect dirs
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 02:19:35 GMT
I passwd protect
/home/httpd/html/kholdan/pass/
I want to use .htaccess and .htpasswd
What shoudl I put in my access.conf? (I would prefer a complete
example)
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From: "Jay Bramble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Install problem - Redhat Linux on Maxtor HD
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 06:39:08 -0500
First, try moving your bigger (and faster) HD to the Primary/Master device,
and move the slower 1.6G drive to the Secondary/Master. Then partition it
into 2Gig partitions. That way you will be able to use all of it. Use
Linux's Fdisk to partition it. I like to do it when I install it. The only
other program I will use to partition a disk is PQ Magic. The newest
version (V4) will make Ext2 partitions for you....
Hope this helps..........
Jeff Grossman wrote in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>>I am trying to install Redhat Linux 5.2 for the first time on my box. I
have
>>two Maxtor HD. One is 1.6GB and the second is 7.0GB EIDE. Due to the
>>limitation in the BIOS. I am able to use only 2GB of the 7.0GB. When, I
>>tried to install Redhat Linux, the machine hangs after this following
>>section:
>>
>>hdb: hdb: dma_intr: Status =0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest
Error }
>>hdb: dma_intr error=0x04 { DriveStatus Error }
>>
>>It goes through fine for the 1.6GB (hda)
>>Model of 7.0GB : Maxtor EIDE 90720D5 (Ultra DMA Mode 2)
>
>I am getting the same exact error. Please let me know of the answer
>also.
>
>Thanks,
>Jeff
>---
>Jeff Grossman ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Damerell)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Anti-Linux FUD
Date: 06 Jan 1999 11:37:38 +0000 (GMT)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Matthew Kirkwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 5 Jan 1999, David Damerell wrote:
>>>Having sbin directories in a normal users path is not required in
>>>order for a normal user to know the system's IP address.
>>What's a better way to do it than 'ifconfig', then?
>host `hostname`
That tells you what the DNS or /etc/hosts thinks the IP addresses of
your machine are, or perhaps a subset thereof - useful information, but
not the same as the set of IP addresses your machine's network interfaces
are actually using.
>>>However, I would question that a normal user needs to know it
>>>anyway... None of the examples you give require sbin in the path.
>>mkdosfs is in an sbin directory.
>But mformat isn't.
*cough* I knew that. Honest.
--
David/Kirsty Damerell, [EMAIL PROTECTED] All Hail Discordia!
| | And then they came and took me out, The men of doom and malice: | |
|---|Destroyed my life, removed my sense, Gave me the poisoned chalice.|---|
| | | My betrayal's life to me... Elder Sign: Treachery | | |
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Damerell)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Anti-Linux FUD
Date: 06 Jan 1999 11:41:32 +0000 (GMT)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>David Damerell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>Having sbin directories in a normal users path is not required in
>>>order for a normal user to know the system's IP address.
>>What's a better way to do it than 'ifconfig', then?
>There are at least two ways. The most obvious is to run
>ifconfig with a full path name.
Yes, yes, you think anyone doesn't know that.
>The most obvious way for normal users to find *any* ip address,
>is nslookup.
Rubbish. nslookup does something completely different, as you ought to
know.
>>mkdosfs is in an sbin directory.
>But that 1) does not mean that sbin directories should be in
>a user's path, nor does it mean mkdosfs is needed at all!
>A variety of tools are available, and it varies from one
>system to another. I use /usr/bin/fdformat, ymmv.
MM suggests that formatting a formatted floppy in order to make a file
system on it is pointless.
>>>>[By this, I refer to someone who obviously could have root if they wanted
>>>>it, but is a housemate or family member or suchlike who doesn't want or
>>>>need it; such a person may have a user account with privileges which
>>>>equate to being root.]
>>>But that is NOT a "normal" user
>>On a home system - where an increasing proportion of Linux users are -
>>that is a normal user. _Anyone_ with physical access to the box can give
>No that is NOT a "normal" user.
Repeating yourself does no good. Given that it is necessary to trust
anyone who lives with the box, in what sense is such a person not a normal
user?
--
David/Kirsty Damerell, [EMAIL PROTECTED] All Hail Discordia!
| | And then they came and took me out, The men of doom and malice: | |
|---|Destroyed my life, removed my sense, Gave me the poisoned chalice.|---|
| | | My betrayal's life to me... Elder Sign: Treachery | | |
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From: "G. Hugh SONG" <ghsong@\"Spamspoiler\"kjist.ac.kr>
Crossposted-To: comp.benchmarks,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips
Subject: K6-2 vs. P2 for g77 under Linux
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 11:22:49 +0900
I have seen a small benchmark indicating
that K6-2 is actually faster than P2 at the same
clock speed for g77 under Linux.
However, I lost the reference where I read that result.
Unfortunately, that was the only one benchmark
for such a task. I am specially interested in
the g77-under-Linux performance.
Has anybody worked on such comparison?
Thank you.
--
G. Hugh Song
PS: Please remove "Spamspoiler" when replying
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Damerell)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Anti-Linux FUD
Date: 06 Jan 1999 11:46:56 +0000 (GMT)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>David Damerell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>David Damerell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>Nix <$}xin{[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>Oh, and steering clear of PATHization also lets you install things
>>>>>>without requiring everyone to log out and log in again (ugh, shades of
>>>>>>Windows).
>>>>>So why would anyone log out to make it effective? That is
>>>>>absolutely not necessary.
>>>>Consider Joe Luser on a large multiuser system. He doesn't know what
>>>>you're doing; he isn't going to get the new system PATH until his next
>>>>login. But he will get immediate access to symlinked binaries.
>>>What makes that bad?
>>Look at the question I am answering. I am answering the question as to
>>whether a logout is necessary. I didn't even start to say this was good or
>>bad, mauve or orange; and talking about that is a pretty lousy distraction
>>from having been wrong when you said 'So why would anyone log out to make
>>it effective? That is absolutely not necessary.'
>That is *still* absolutely not necessary. Your suggestion is not only
>not prefered, it isn't desirable at all.
Perhaps you missed the bit where I said that I am not discussing whether
this is good or bad (or preferred or desirable.) Let me summarise;
Nix claims that PATHization forces people to log out and in again.
You disagree.
I point out a situation in which it might be necessary, and would not be
necessary with symlinked binaries.
Please do not introduce this good/bad diversion; confine yourself to the
points being discussed. In what sense would our naive user not need to log
out and in again to access the new binaries (in the fashion he expects -
without absolute paths) in the situation where the system PATH is amended?
I must emphasise _again_ that I am not discussing which of these
approaches is good or bad.
--
David/Kirsty Damerell, [EMAIL PROTECTED] All Hail Discordia!
| | And then they came and took me out, The men of doom and malice: | |
|---|Destroyed my life, removed my sense, Gave me the poisoned chalice.|---|
| | | My betrayal's life to me... Elder Sign: Treachery | | |
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From: Alex Parfenov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Intel EtherExpress Pro/100B Problem
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 21:24:37 -0500
Instead of typing 'ifconfig' type 'ifconfig eth0'
if it complains that device is unknown/invalid/etc. you are in trouble: probably
your driver is not compatible. If the interface exists, it will probably come up
as 'DOWN' - that's why typing 'ifconfig' does not work, 'ifconfig' without
parameters only displays active interfaces.
So, if the interface exists, go ahead and try to configure your interface
using ifconfig command( look in /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 for format and explanations on
what do exactly).
Once you are able to configure interface using ifconfig, then start over and try
to get dhcp to automatically configure it for you.
Doug Goldstein wrote:
> Another thing. I'm also not setting up an intranet or anything. I'm trying to
> get 2 machines to pull IPs off from the DHCP server. Do I need to setup the
> Linux box to foward and give it 2 cards? 1 to connect to the modem and another
> to go to the hub?
>
> Chad Cunningham wrote:
>
> > You don't need the rrdhcpcd, normal DHCP works fine. I'll bet your on
> > roadrunner, right? This happens to me sometimes because their dhcp
> > servers are slow to send out the info, and it times out. I don't
> > remember exactly how to do it, but if you don't get an answer, ask
> > around about setting a sleep() command for DHCP during the bootup.
> > There's somewhere you can put it to make it wait longer.
> >
> > Doug Goldstein wrote:
> > >
> > > I just recently got into Linux for my company. I got the task of setting
> > > up our web server on the network. Which we have the Intel EtherExpress
> > > Pro/100B cards and Intel InBusiness Hubs. I purchased a book including
> > > RedHat 5.1 and installed it along with the card. Rebuilt the kernel so
> > > it's a driver. Only problem is that during booting up the card is
> > > detected and passes all the tests. But our network is connected to the
> > > web via a cable modem so this server needs to connect to the DHCP server
> > > to get an IP address. But for some reason everytime it tries during boot
> > > up it fails. I was required to get a different DHCP client called
> > > rrDHCPcd, cause that's what works with the cable provider. Try as I do I
> > > can not get it to connect to the server. Nor when I type /sbin/ifconfig
> > > does the eth0 device show up. The eth0 does show when typing cat
> > > /proc/net/dev. If there is anyone that can help I'd really appreciate
> > > it. Or if there is any other info I need to provide just tell me.
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Doug Goldstein
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
Alex Parfenov
http://pigseye.kennesaw.edu/~aparfeno
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Smith)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Anti-Linux FUD
Date: 6 Jan 1999 03:26:50 -0800
BR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> | Instead of wiping the current URL, just paste the new URL into the
>> | main part of the Netscape display, rather than the URL entry area.
>> | Netscape accepts that as a command to go to the new location.
...
>On 4.5 it ends up in the URL entry area along with the old URL.
You misread. Paste the URL into the place where the page displays, *NOT*
into the URL entry area. Netscape 4.5 (and 4.0x...I've not tried any 3.x
versions on Linux) then goes to the pasted URL.
--Tim Smith
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From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux: Fight for survival or on victory march?
Date: 05 Jan 1999 22:43:30 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
-> We haven't had two opposing headlines like this since we began the daily news
-> service for Linux enthusiasts: Today's newsflash is "Linux to survive?". The
-> question has been raised by an article on CNN interactive pointing out that
-> Linux's survival hangs on a DOJ thread. It is an interesting article and one
-> that I would recommend to Linux lovers to read.
I think that article would be no less credible if it was on MSNBC.
See the FRT.
--
David Steuber
http://www.david-steuber.com
s/trashcan/david/ to reply by mail
"Hackers penetrate and ravage delicate, private, and publicly owned
computer systems, infecting them with viruses and stealing materials
for their own ends. These people, they're, they're terrorists."
-- Secret Service Agent Richard Gill
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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: NOSPAM in addresses..
Date: 06 Jan 1999 01:22:35 -0800
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Hash: SHA1
>>>>> "Steve" == Steve Simmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Steve> My method for dealing with it -- procmail, and a separate
Steve> but valid email address. This post comes from
Steve> [EMAIL PROTECTED] That mail goes directly to
Steve> my true mailbox, which sets aside all such mail into a
Steve> separate folder for later processing. When I accumulate
You can also use 'plus' addressing, like I do
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) to sort away mail that uses your usenet
address.
Steve> ``If you find yourself in a hole the first thing to do is
Steve> stop diggin'.'' From `Don't Squat With Yer Spurs On: A
Steve> Cowboy's Guide To Life' by Texas Bix Bender
Yes! The New Riders! ;-)
8<---------------how-easy-is-it-to-demunge-an-address?------------------->8
#! /usr/bin/perl # if you are [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Another Luser):
while ($line = <>){ if ($line =~ m/^\s*$/ ){ last; }
if ($line =~ m/^From: (\S+) \(([^()]*)\)/){ $from_address = $1; } }
if ($from_address =~ m/\S+NOSPAM\S+/){ $x = index($from_address, NOSPAM);
substr($from_address, $x, 6+1) = ""; printf("The real address is %s\n",
$from_address);}else { printf("No munge, just plain %s\n",$from_address);}
printf("\nBrought to you by the Truth In Mail Headers Foundation\n");
8<-----------------------here's-one-example------------------------------>8
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Michael Powe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.trollope.org
Portland, Oregon USA
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From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux: Fight for survival or on victory march?
Date: 05 Jan 1999 22:32:34 -0500
See the FRT. Market share is not important to Linux. People who like
it will use it. People who don't, won't.
--
David Steuber
http://www.david-steuber.com
s/trashcan/david/ to reply by mail
"Hackers penetrate and ravage delicate, private, and publicly owned
computer systems, infecting them with viruses and stealing materials
for their own ends. These people, they're, they're terrorists."
-- Secret Service Agent Richard Gill
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From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: help me choose license
Date: 05 Jan 1999 22:26:51 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
-> There are arguments both ways on this, but I don't think they'd risk it.
-> Even if they won in court they would take a huge PR hit.
Well, a company beginning with M lost a court to with Stac
Electronics for stealing disk compression code. They are even bigger
now. Where is Stac?
--
David Steuber
http://www.david-steuber.com
s/trashcan/david/ to reply by mail
"Hackers penetrate and ravage delicate, private, and publicly owned
computer systems, infecting them with viruses and stealing materials
for their own ends. These people, they're, they're terrorists."
-- Secret Service Agent Richard Gill
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From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Can't have fetchmail working
Date: 05 Jan 1999 22:23:05 -0500
Set up a user account for your self so you aren't running as route all
the time. You can always su if you need to do something as route.
Is sendmail or some other MTA running? Fetchmail needs an MTA to
deliver your mail to you on the local host.
Could you post a transcript of the fetchmail session?
Your .fetchmailrc file looks ok as far as I can tell.
--
David Steuber
http://www.david-steuber.com
s/trashcan/david/ to reply by mail
"Hackers penetrate and ravage delicate, private, and publicly owned
computer systems, infecting them with viruses and stealing materials
for their own ends. These people, they're, they're terrorists."
-- Secret Service Agent Richard Gill
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From: Kyle R Maxwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: rpm probs under RedHat 5.1
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 16:14:24 -0600
Installing (almost) any package using rpm under RedHat 5.1 yields a
message telling me that the packages.rpm file (under //var/lib/packages,
I think) is not a valid RPM file. glint just hangs. Any ideas on what my
problem might be?
--
Kyle Maxwell
Lead Internet Installer
The Beam
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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: QMAIL question - Where is my email disappearing to?
Date: 06 Jan 1999 02:30:55 -0800
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>>>>> "Chip" == <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Chip> Help! Since switching to Qmail from Sendmail (I used
Chip> Redhat5.0 rpm's), my email is disappearing into a black hole
Chip> and I can't find any of them. They used to go into ~/mail,
Chip> but I've searched /var/spool and /var/qmail, etc., and no
Chip> luck.
At my ISP, which unfortunately made the switch to Qmail, the mail goes
to ~/.mail -- no doubt this is configurable.
mp
8<---------------how-easy-is-it-to-demunge-an-address?------------------->8
#! /usr/bin/perl # if you are [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Another Luser):
while ($line = <>){ if ($line =~ m/^\s*$/ ){ last; }
if ($line =~ m/^From: (\S+) \(([^()]*)\)/){ $from_address = $1; } }
if ($from_address =~ m/\S+NOSPAM\S+/){ $x = index($from_address, NOSPAM);
substr($from_address, $x, 6+1) = ""; printf("The real address is %s\n",
$from_address);}else { printf("No munge, just plain %s\n",$from_address);}
printf("\nBrought to you by the Truth In Mail Headers Foundation\n");
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Michael Powe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.trollope.org
Portland, Oregon USA
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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ssh rpm?
Date: 06 Jan 1999 02:07:28 -0800
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>>>>> "Dan" == <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Dan> I looked at a couple mirror sites, sdcc33.ucsd.edu and
Dan> meta-something-or-other and couldn't find it. Does this exist
Dan> or does it have a special name? Much obliged.
The ssh distribution site is ftp.cs.hut.fi /pub/ssh. I don't know
about any rpms. They just have tarballs.
mp
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#! /usr/bin/perl # if you are [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Another Luser):
while ($line = <>){ if ($line =~ m/^\s*$/ ){ last; }
if ($line =~ m/^From: (\S+) \(([^()]*)\)/){ $from_address = $1; } }
if ($from_address =~ m/\S+NOSPAM\S+/){ $x = index($from_address, NOSPAM);
substr($from_address, $x, 6+1) = ""; printf("The real address is %s\n",
$from_address);}else { printf("No munge, just plain %s\n",$from_address);}
printf("\nBrought to you by the Truth In Mail Headers Foundation\n");
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Michael Powe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.trollope.org
Portland, Oregon USA
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (steve mcadams)
Subject: automatic startx under SuSE 5.3?
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 03:07:58 GMT
I'm running SuSE 5.3 and have been trying to figure out how to get
-one- of my userids to come up and do an automatic startx.
I tried putting "startx" at the bottom of my .profile, and although it
comes up, there is a message in the xterm saying that the X server is
already running; the xterm then closes itself. fvwm2 continues to
work, but I'd like it to come up cleanly.
Tried YaST but couldn't find anything in it that seemed to help,
looked in 3 books and couldn't find anything there either. Apparently
this is so easy everybody else knows it already<g> tia. -steve
p.s. When you're running X, how do you toggle to another virtual
console, or is that option gone the moment you startx?
========================================================
Tools for programmers: http://www.codetools.com/showcase
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: 2038 and Linux
Date: 6 Jan 1999 02:06:22 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 5 Jan 1999 19:15:32 +0100, Villy Kruse
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <76t9dk$5vk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>Linux has been a 64 bit kernel on Alpha for a long time, and IIRC has become
>>64 bits on Sparc prior to the availability of a 64 bit version of
>>Solaris/Sparc.
>
>Can you even make an OS for alpha that is not 64bit. In other words:
>anything running on alpha is 64bit; you don't have a choice.
Sure, you can build an Alpha-based OS that's not "64 bit."
Microsoft has; Windows NT for Alpha is a 32 bit system.
Digital has, probably multiple times.
- VMS may have been transformed into "64-bit-ness," but initially was
certainly not 64 bit, as it represented an emulation of the
not-64-bit-VAX.
- Early versions of Digital UNIX/OSF/1 probably were 32 bit UNIXes.
- The initial Digital-based Linux port effort was a 32 bit effort, so as
to seek to minimize porting efforts. It never got usefully released,
but is nonetheless fairly well documented, and you might even be able to
find some (likely useless!) source code for it.
--
M$ is for people who want a half-way implementation of yesterday's
ideas tomorrow.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
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From: BR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Anti-Linux FUD
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 04:18:39 -0500
Thad Floryan wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Smith) wrote:
> | Iain Georgeson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | >Find useful URL in text somewhere.
> | >Select it.
> | >Wipe URL currently in Netscape's location box by selecting it, and
> | >pasting the first one on top.
> | >
> | >Oops...
> |
> | Instead of wiping the current URL, just paste the new URL into the
> | main part of the Netscape display, rather than the URL entry area.
> | Netscape accepts that as a command to go to the new location.
> |
> | --Tim Smith
>
> That's a good idea; where did you see that documented? I thought I read
> everything, but maybe I'm going blind. :-)
>
> What I've been doing is typing Ctrl-U (^U) in the URL entry area to erase
> the old, then right mouse button to paste in the new.
>
> Thad
On 4.5 it ends up in the URL entry area along with the old URL.
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From: "Mould" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Howto signal incoming mail (biff?)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 14:02:03 +0100
Matthias Warkus schrieb in Nachricht ...
>Perhaps it can't be done with biff, but it surely can be done. Usually,
>everytime mail comes in, the comsat daemon is notified of every mail by one
>datagram of the form "user@mailbox-offset", where mailbox-offset is an
>offset into the mailbox that indicates where the new mail can be found.
>
>It should be possible to hack a server process that runs on the comsat port
>and that does not notify users via biff, but just beeps.
>
>Does that help?
Hm. I don't know how to do this. :-(
But :-) I found another solution:
I wrote a little script that checks every file in /var/spool/mail/* whether
it's empty (test -s filename does that). If not so, it beeps ten times. The
script is launched every hour by cron... that's it!!
Maybe it's just a workaround, but for me it works (around)!
Thanks for your help,
Michael
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