Linux-Misc Digest #500, Volume #18 Thu, 7 Jan 99 05:13:09 EST
Contents:
Re: K6-2 vs. P2 for g77 under Linux (Tein H. Yuan(�K���A))
Linux, Windows 95/98, and CD-ROM drives (Chris Welch)
ScanPort SQ-1030 scanner and Linux? (Van Snyder)
Re: newest stable kernel 2.2.0 ? (Peter Granroth)
Re: APM causes system clock to "sleep"? (Andreas Hinz)
APM causes system clock to "sleep"? (Andy Piper)
Re: Single Floppy Linux on HD-less PC ?? (Timothy J. Lee)
DHCP sleep too much ? (Arun Sharma)
WordPerfect 8 Installation Issue (Anping Pan)
Re: Linux: Fight for survival or on victory march? (Phil Lewis)
Re: shutting down screenless server - when done?? (Tom Evans)
Re: Shell scripts ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Installation CDROM extern (Heinz Schnitzler)
Re: Should I install Linux on my new computer? (Codifex Maximus)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tein H. Yuan(�K���A))
Crossposted-To: comp.benchmarks,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips
Subject: Re: K6-2 vs. P2 for g77 under Linux
Date: 7 Jan 1999 07:05:26 GMT
G. Hugh SONG (ghsong@\"Spamspoiler\"kjist.ac.kr) wrote:
: I have seen a small benchmark indicating
: that K6-2 is actually faster than P2 at the same
: clock speed for g77 under Linux.
: However, I lost the reference where I read that result.
: Unfortunately, that was the only one benchmark
: for such a task. I am specially interested in
: the g77-under-Linux performance.
: Has anybody worked on such comparison?
I don't believe that K6-2 will faster than PII. Because
at least PII has a 512 KB 1:2 L2 cache. And K6-2 only have
100MHz speed.
Of course, it is possible to get a test that K6-2 is better than PII.
And I believe the test program would be very small and small enough
to put it in L1 cache. So, I believe there is a few applications
will fall into such kind of type.
I had done Linpack test under Linux w/ egcs g77, pgi f77, absoft f77
on ASUS P2L97+PII 300. Although this page is not what you want, ...
The page is at http://www.pcf.sinica.edu.tw/benchmark/system/f77/f77perf.html
-- Tein
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From: Chris Welch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux, Windows 95/98, and CD-ROM drives
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 07:46:36 +0000
On the rare occasion I boot Windows, if I do it after booting Linux
without actually turning off the computer, Windows can't find my
CD-ROM drives. Does anyone know why?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Van Snyder)
Subject: ScanPort SQ-1030 scanner and Linux?
Date: 6 Jan 1999 18:49:50 GMT
I was given a ScanPort SQ-1030 scanner (parallel port). It comes with
WinDoze software. Their tech support line is always busy, so I can't
get through to ask if they have Linux support. I looked at
http://www.vividata.com/scanshop.html, places linked from the SANE
page (http://www.mostang.com/sane/) and DejaNews, and didn't find
anything.
Do you know of any software to support ScanPort scanners, in particular
ScanPort SQ-1030?
Please send an e-mail copy of your posting to me. My news server seems
to capture only 50-75% of the news articles.
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From: Peter Granroth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: newest stable kernel 2.2.0 ?
Date: 06 Jan 1999 19:52:39 +0100
Jan Stifter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> is the kernel 2.2.0 already out ? if yes, where can I get the sources?
>
[19:49]:[ttyp4]:[devnull@granis]:[~]
$ finger @linux.kernel.org
[linux.kernel.org]
The latest stable version of the Linux kernel is: 2.0.36
The latest beta version of the Linux kernel is: 2.1.132
The latest prepatch (alpha) version *appears* to be: 2.2.0-pre4
i.e no, so either download 2.2.0-pre4 (works fine for me), or wait a
while for the stable 2.2 release.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Hinz)
Subject: Re: APM causes system clock to "sleep"?
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 07:56:14 GMT
On Wed, 06 Jan 1999 14:31:39 +0000, Andy Piper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I know the machine's internal clock is fine, because when I
>rebooted yesterday the time was correct again (I also checked the
>BIOS settings to confirm that it was all OK). Yet I have no way
>of re-syncing the clock now without rebooting :-(
>
Ih ad the ssame problem when I first started using Linux. You have to
recompile the kernel with APM support.
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Med venlig hilsen / Best regards
Andreas Hinz
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From: Andy Piper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: APM causes system clock to "sleep"?
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 14:31:39 +0000
I've just noticed that when I'm away from my machine, and the
BIOS APM features activate (e.g. hard disk spindown, monitor
power saving), the system clock 'stops'. Yesterday I noticed that
I seemed to 'lose' 15 minutes, and today I've been away for a few
hours and the time is currently showing as three hours behind.
I know the machine's internal clock is fine, because when I
rebooted yesterday the time was correct again (I also checked the
BIOS settings to confirm that it was all OK). Yet I have no way
of re-syncing the clock now without rebooting :-(
Is this a known "feature" of using power management? I'm running
kernel 2.0.36, and I've had absolutely no other problems
whatsoever, but in the longer term I don't want to have to reboot
my machine periodically in order to ensure that it gets its time
correct!
Andy
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Andy Piper [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fareham, Hampshire
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy J. Lee)
Subject: Re: Single Floppy Linux on HD-less PC ??
Reply-To: see-signature-for-email-address---junk-not-welcome
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 19:20:00 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Douglas I-Hsi Chen) writes:
|For you Linux gurus. I'd like to know if there's a tiny distribution of
|Linux which can run happily on a floppy disk(s) on a machine without a HD?
Maybe Trinux (http://www.trinux.org)?
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Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: DHCP sleep too much ?
From: Arun Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 19:27:44 GMT
I noticed that the DHCP timeout in Redhat Linux is set to around 30-45
secs, which seems to be a bit too long for a frequently rebooted
machine (like a laptop).
Trying to lower that number makes DHCP fail. Does anyone know why ?
How does Win95 manage to boot with DHCP in a slightly shorter period
of time ?
-Arun
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anping Pan)
Subject: WordPerfect 8 Installation Issue
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 21:08:32 GMT
Hi,
I am a linux fan and happy to try the newly available WP8 on my linux
2.0.36. After I install wp successfully to /usr/local/wp, I tried to
run xwp and got error of "File cannot be found: admintxt.us". I can
see the file admintxt.us under shlib10. What is wrong? Any help is
appreciated.
Regards,
Pan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phil Lewis)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux: Fight for survival or on victory march?
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 08:50:00 GMT
On Tue, 05 Jan 1999 23:36:34 +0000, mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>User, have used Windows, don't care for computer wars, they want
>something reliable and only car about spreadsheets, wordprocessor,
>e-mail, and a web browser. If all they need is done with Linux, I would
>set up Linux, if they need a specific program that Linux did not have I
>would be forced to use recommend Windows, but, insist that they pay for
>support.
Are you seriously implyinmg that this class of user would not need
support if given Linux?
Get real.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Evans)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: shutting down screenless server - when done??
Date: 6 Jan 1999 18:39:23 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Gerard Roos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Now I'm looking for a solution in which the kernel (or somewhat) tells
> me e.g. by (de)activating a LED that it has shut down (like the
> appearing 'Shut down' message). Does anybody have something similar
> running or has an idea how to do it?
There is a program (setled) available that will set leds, place it in
the appropriate rc script.
regards,
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Tom Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED]
All disclaimers apply...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Shell scripts
Date: 7 Jan 1999 08:49:46 GMT
Rick Glunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The man pages fro sendmail and fetchmail both indicate they return codes
> that will tell a script wheter they have completed properly or not. How do
> I access these codes from a shell script? I want fetchmail to run, then
> have sendmail start after fetchmail completes. Any sample code?
The return code from a command is contained in the shell's special
parameter $?. (See the PARAMETERS section of the bash(1) man page.)
The value of $? can then be tested in an "if" statement, for example.
Here is some sample code that tests the return status of 'grep' (since
I'm not all that familiar with either 'sendmail' or 'fetchmail'.)
grep -q somestring somefile
if [ $? -eq 0 ]
then
echo "somestring found"
else
echo "somestring not found"
fi
The return status of a command can also be tested directly, without
using $?.
if grep -q somestring somefile
then
echo "somestring found"
else
echo "somestring not found"
fi
If you are going to be doing much shell programming, I would highly
recommend getting a good book on the subject. It will explain this and
many other useful things that can be difficult to understand from just
reading the man page.
Gary
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Heinz Schnitzler)
Subject: Installation CDROM extern
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 09:37:02 +0100
Hello,
I'm 14 years old and I got an old computer from a friend of my father.
(386)
I got Linux Redhat Version 5 but I'm not able to install my FREECOM
IDE-ATAPI CDROM. (It's a german firm)
Important: My CDROM is an extern CDROM.
In my handbook I read: "If you can't install the CDROM and it is ein
ATAPI cancel installation (or close installation) and start with "LINUX
HDA (can also change) = CDROM"
But I'm not able to cancel/close my installation.
Does anybody know a solution for my problem.
Thanks by advance and sorry for my bad english but it's really difficult
for me to translate and explain my problem.
Thank you.
Nils Schnitzler
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From: Codifex Maximus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Should I install Linux on my new computer?
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 14:18:15 -0600
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Ted Unnikumaran wrote:
> I am about to purchase my first computer, and I am not sure as to what
> operating system I should install. For the most part I am new to
> computers so I would like some help. I really don't play a lot of
> computer games and plan on using my computer to learn more about
> programming and to use the internet.
>
> This is what I know
> The reason I hear Linux is better is that
> 1. It is free
Free as in: the source code is available to you; the OS is inexpensive.
> 2. I would be on a similar environment as most of my school projects
Good reason to use it then.
> 3. With windows i won't be able to afford a lot of software available and
> with linux most of the software is either free or cheap.
Linux is a remarkable learning tool that wont cost you an arm-and-a-leg.
> 4. I want to practice developing a database before my database class and
> I have heard it is easier to do so using linux.
Developing databases in Windows is easy... making them robust and error free
is another thing altogether.Developing databases in Linux is easy too... you
have your client-server environment, many free and nearly free database
management systems (some, like Oracle, DB2, Informix and Sybase, are
considered world class), lots of free tools and unrivaled support from the
community. Many Visual IDE's are becoming available too.
> 5. It crashes a lot less
OK. Since I started using Linux, my piece of mind has come back to me. The
only frustration I feel these days is when I'm trying to get some new
cutting-edge app going on my Linux box; later this frustration turns to
elation when I get the new thing going. Then I just use it without worrying
about crashing all the time.
> The only reason I would want to put Windows 98 or Windows Nt on my
> computer is because I really don't know that much about Windows and this
> would force me to learn it so it would help me get a real job after I
> graduate. additionally at my present job. I program using visual
> basic and I am going to start programming using visual c++, and would like
> to start using visual j++, and windows would allow me to work at home
If you want to do Java, Linux is a great to do it! Use the Blackdown port of
JDK1.1.7, the TYA1.2 JIT, and NetBeans2.0 and you have a complete Java
Development Workstation. Information on these packages can be found at
freshmeat.net.
> Also I want to use the new quicken 99 to help me manage my family's
> finances and as far as I know they don't have a version for linux.
> Is it possible to use those programs with linux? If not is there a way to
> have both linux and windows on my computer because I think I remember
> seeing some program that allows you to do that.
>
> anyways, sorry it was soo long, and hopefully you all can help me.
>
> Thanks
> Ted
Sounds like you may want to dual boot for 1999 until the new software starts
rolling in. I'd say, for Linux, around March. (my little prediction)
Also, after XML takes hold, proprietary file formats should be a thing of the
past (or at least moreso) and client software should become more
cross-platform/internet-aware. This is where Java and Linux begin to really
shine.
--
Codifex Maximus
I tried to drown my problems but they can swim!
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Ted Unnikumaran wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>I am about to purchase my first computer, and I am
not sure as to what
<BR>operating system I should install. For the most part I am new
to
<BR>computers so I would like some help. I really don't play a lot
of
<BR>computer games and plan on using my computer to learn more about
<BR>programming and to use the internet.
<P>This is what I know
<BR>The reason I hear Linux is better is that
<BR>1. It is free</BLOCKQUOTE>
Free as in: the source code is available to you; the OS is inexpensive.
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>2. I would be on a similar environment as most
of my school projects</BLOCKQUOTE>
Good reason to use it then.
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>3. With windows i won't be able to afford a
lot of software available and
<BR>with linux most of the software is either free or cheap.</BLOCKQUOTE>
Linux is a remarkable learning tool that wont cost you an arm-and-a-leg.
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>4. I want to practice developing a database
before my database class and
<BR>I have heard it is easier to do so using linux.</BLOCKQUOTE>
Developing databases in Windows is easy... making them robust and error
free is another thing altogether.Developing databases in Linux is easy
too... you have your client-server environment, many free and nearly free
database management systems (some, like Oracle, DB2, Informix and Sybase,
are considered world class), lots of free tools and unrivaled support from
the community. Many Visual IDE's are becoming available too.
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>5. It crashes a lot less</BLOCKQUOTE>
OK. Since I started using Linux, my piece of mind has come back to
me. The only frustration I feel these days is when I'm trying to
get some new cutting-edge app going on my Linux box; later this frustration
turns to elation when I get the new thing going. Then I just use
it without worrying about crashing all the time.
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>The only reason I would want to put Windows 98 or
Windows Nt on my
<BR>computer is because I really don't know that much about Windows and
this
<BR>would force me to learn it so it would help me get a real job after
I
<BR>graduate. additionally at my present job. I program using visual
<BR>basic and I am going to start programming using visual c++, and would
like
<BR>to start using visual j++, and windows would allow me to work at home</BLOCKQUOTE>
If you want to do Java, Linux is a great to do it! Use the Blackdown
port of JDK1.1.7, the TYA1.2 JIT, and NetBeans2.0 and you have a complete
Java Development Workstation. Information on these packages can be
found at freshmeat.net.
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>Also I want to use the new quicken 99 to help me
manage my family's
<BR>finances and as far as I know they don't have a version for linux.
<BR>Is it possible to use those programs with linux? If not is there
a way to
<BR>have both linux and windows on my computer because I think I remember
<BR>seeing some program that allows you to do that.
<P>anyways, sorry it was soo long, and hopefully you all can help me.
<P>Thanks
<BR>Ted</BLOCKQUOTE>
Sounds like you may want to dual boot for 1999 until the new software starts
rolling in. I'd say, for Linux, around March. (my little prediction)
<BR>Also, after XML takes hold, proprietary file formats should be a thing
of the past (or at least moreso) and client software should become more
cross-platform/internet-aware. This is where Java and Linux begin
to really shine.
<PRE>--
Codifex Maximus
I tried to drown my problems but they can swim!
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