Linux-Misc Digest #507, Volume #18 Thu, 7 Jan 99 22:13:08 EST
Contents:
Re: need better info on settting up SAMBA (T.L. (Terry Branscombe))
Diamond Viper 330 ("Sinclair Robertson")
ppp trouble ("logik")
Re: Anti-Linux FUD (BR)
Re: [Q] Corel WordPerfect 8.0 ... Any experiences? (Mike Werner)
Re: Unusual(?) pppd problem ("K. Vosburgh")
Re: APM causes system clock to "sleep"? ("Andy Piper")
Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (Chris Lee)
Re: Real Player Plugin and Netscape ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (Jeff Read)
Re: Whats the best *offline* usenet reader for Linux? (David Gerard)
Re: Floppy Disk Drive (Yan Seiner)
Re: Linux: Fight for survival or on victory march? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: (((((((NEED REDHAT5.2)))))))) ("Stuart Updegrave")
Re: Linux: Fight for survival or on victory march? ("93")
Re: RedHat Packgae Manager (Mike Werner)
Re: I am a Unix convert (Lars Koeller)
Re: newest devel kernel 2.3.0? (Johan Kullstam)
Re: Anti-Linux FUD (Darin Johnson)
Re: Newbie Idiocy (Benoit Goudreault-Emond)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (T.L. (Terry) Branscombe)
Subject: Re: need better info on settting up SAMBA
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Date: 7 Jan 99 07:24:51 GMT
Jeffrey Greer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Thanks for the info so far, but I'm not getting anywhere.
: I have the network card recognized and set to eth0, ip address 223.223.223.1.
: The nt box is set to ip 223.223.223.0. I have the netmasks on both machines set
: to 255.255.0.0. NT won't accept a netmask of 255.255.255.0. Do I need to
: change the netmasks or ip's?
I run roughly the same network: one Linux/Win95 box connected via Ethernet
with an NT Server box. With enough information on what your setup is, we
should be able to get you up and running.
Your statement that NT won't accept 255.255.255.0 as a netmask is
puzzling, since it defines a common Class-C network, the type most of us
would likely use in the circumstances. Does it give any message when you
try specifying this netmask?
Maybe it's one of the netcards. Can you ping the NT box from itself? The
Linux box from itself?
To simplify things and ease your mind, you do not need to setup DNS,
DHCP, Gateways, routers, WINS, or bind to run your network or connect
either of your hosts to the Internet. You DO need, on the NT side, to sort
out why NT won't accept a Class-C network, and on the Linux side, some
configuration files must be in good working order.
It's a feeble suggestion, but...
In the /etc/hosts file, confirm the following:
127.0.0.1 localhost
223.223.223.1 hostname1
223.223.223.0 hostname2
And, in the /etc/host.conf file, confirm the following:
order hosts,bind
multi on
That's all I can suggest until you can provide more information on error
messages, setup, etc. Good luck.
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Terrence Branscombe
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From: "Sinclair Robertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Diamond Viper 330
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 21:38:01 -0000
I am a newwbie, and trying to configure my vidoe card. It is under Xfree86
3.3.1.
The server I am told is SVGA, but will not work and gives error 111 when
trying to reboot. So I changed to a VGA but the resolution has gone to pot.
It is not fitting in to my 21' screen. I have tried to up grade to 3.3.3.
but note that one of the file is larger than 2Mb and so can not use dos disc
to transfer the file to my Linux box. As you have guessed trying to install
a modem and PPP is even harder than the vidoe card, so I am stuck. ALl I
need/want is for my resolution to be 600 x 800.
I have redhat 5.0.
My email is [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "logik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ppp trouble
Date: 8 Jan 1999 01:17:24 GMT
Hello, i am a fervent linux user, and i badly need help!
I want to connect to the internet with linux with pppd-2.3, but it doesn't
work; the ppp connection seems to be ok since i get my dynamic IP:
/var/log/message:
Jan 8 02:44:49 logik chat[525]: (195.114.65.18) to 212.11.30.135
beginning....
Jan 8 02:44:49 logik chat[525]: -- got it
Jan 8 02:44:49 logik chat[525]: send (^M)
Jan 8 02:44:49 logik pppd[520]: Serial connection established.
Jan 8 02:44:50 logik pppd[520]: Using interface ppp0
Jan 8 02:44:50 logik pppd[520]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/cua0
Jan 8 02:44:52 logik pppd[520]: local IP address 212.11.30.135
Jan 8 02:44:52 logik pppd[520]: remote IP address 195.114.65.18
and my ppp device seems well configured too (no problems in ifconfig)
however, i am not able to ping anyone (including the other side,
195.114.65.18)
any name resolving times out in the way that i don't receive any data from
the
modem:
Jan 8 02:45:23 logik pppd[520]: CCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
'route' does the same, and 'route -n' says (which i think is normal):
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use
Iface
195.114.65.18 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0
ppp0
198.68.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0
eth0
127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo
0.0.0.0 195.114.65.18 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 2
ppp0
it seems to me that everything works, but the dns servers don't respond to
me
My ISP tells me nothing changed on his side.
NOTE: I can connect with no problems under Windows95
So if someone could help me, i'll be very happy (since i HAVE to use Win95
to
use internet)...
Thanks for your feedback.
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From: BR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Anti-Linux FUD
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 12:43:30 -0500
Tim Smith wrote:
>
> BR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> | Instead of wiping the current URL, just paste the new URL into the
> >> | main part of the Netscape display, rather than the URL entry area.
> >> | Netscape accepts that as a command to go to the new location.
> ...
> >On 4.5 it ends up in the URL entry area along with the old URL.
>
> You misread. Paste the URL into the place where the page displays, *NOT*
> into the URL entry area. Netscape 4.5 (and 4.0x...I've not tried any 3.x
> versions on Linux) then goes to the pasted URL.
>
> --Tim Smith
Thanks for replying
Apparently it is particular were you pull the URL's from though.
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From: Mike Werner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Q] Corel WordPerfect 8.0 ... Any experiences?
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 20:31:14 -0500
Did a copy and paste - no problems. It's a funky looking string they're
using - I've seen numerous problems with that registration listed here.
Only fix seems to be keep trying. Maybe the phase of the moon in
relation to Vega being in conjunction with Mercury, Chrysler, and
Plymouth is a factor. ::shrug:: No idea.
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From: "K. Vosburgh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Unusual(?) pppd problem
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 23:46:39 -0800
What serial ports are the modem and mouse on? Is modem internal? May be that
you have two conflicting IRQs. I've never seen it on a Linux box, but I had
something similar happen a long time ago on a Win 3.1 machine.
Just a thought.
Kevin
Harry Nangle wrote:
> I'm experiencing difficulty with my internet connection when I go to a URL
> and I'm hoping someone can tell me what I'm doing wrong...
>
> I can dial out successfully and open a browser (Arena, Lynx or Netscape).
> However when the browser tries to open a URL it halts, waiting for
> me to move or click the mouse! Continually moving my mouse (or hitting
> a button) enables the web page to be downloaded. If I stop moving the mouse
> around, the page will cease downloading until I resume moving.
>
> I'm using SuSE Linux 5.2 and a Microsoft Intellimouse 1.1a, if that give any
> clues!
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From: "Andy Piper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: APM causes system clock to "sleep"?
Date: 7 Jan 1999 14:23:46 GMT
Reply-To: "Andy Piper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Tarcus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in article
<770l2k$bjl$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Andy Piper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > I know the machine's internal clock is fine, because when I
> > rebooted yesterday the time was correct again (I also checked the
> > BIOS settings to confirm that it was all OK). Yet I have no way
> > of re-syncing the clock now without rebooting :-(
>
> This sounds rather strange! Have you got APM enabled in the kernel?
Yes, I have. But there's also a load of BIOS settings for the level of
power saving to enable for hard disk spindown, etc., which I've set in the
machine's BIOS setup program.
> At any rate, read the manual page for the "clock" command, you can
> re-read the hardware clock and set the software clock from it.
Aha! Ding! I was looking at 'time' and 'date' to see if I could do
something similar. Thanks for the pointer.
Andy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Lee)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: 8 Jan 1999 01:08:31 GMT
In article <#nvtpZpO#[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>
>The latest consumer poll shows that 81 percent of consumers think Microsoft
>has been good for consumers, and 52 percent think the case was brought to
>help Microsoft's rivals.
>
>The poll also shows that 76 percent of consumers think U.S. District Judge
>Thomas Penfield Jackson should find Microsoft not guilty of violating the
>Sherman Antitrust Act when the trial concludes sometime in the next two or
>three months.
>
>The consumer has spoken, but will this affect Penfield Jackson�s rulings?
>Of course not, a biased and angry Penfield will rule against Microsoft on
>every count and impose the most severe penalty he believes possible. But
>not to worry, there is a contingency plan in place regardless the DOJ trial
>and appeals outcome. Long live Microsoft.
This was a paid advertisement by Microsoft.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Real Player Plugin and Netscape
Date: 7 Jan 1999 18:41:00 -0700
Kurt Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
% Using recycled bits, pestilence blurted out:
% %As far as i have heard RealPlayer isn't support as a plugin but as a standalone
% %program.
% Bzzzt! Thanks for playing. The tarball comes with a nice set of instructions
% for installing RealPlayer as a plugin. Works just fine for me.
I think this is very interesting. One of the things I needed to figure out
to dump my other OS was how to get RA to work. If I can't listen to audio
on the net I go nuts. (I know short trip.) I downloaded the tar ball,
followed the instructions, worked first time without a problem. The only
time I have ever had problmes is when I recompiled my kernel without the
correct codec.
Anyone know when they will be out with a Linux version of the G2 player?
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From: Jeff Read <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 20:51:39 -0500
Netnerd wrote:
>
> The latest consumer poll shows that 81 percent of consumers think Microsoft
> has been good for consumers, and 52 percent think the case was brought to
> help Microsoft's rivals.
Polls also show that Bill Clinton is a good president. Is public opinion
more valid than the facts? I think not.
> The consumer has spoken, but will this affect Penfield Jackson?s rulings?
> Of course not, a biased and angry Penfield will rule against Microsoft on
> every count and impose the most severe penalty he believes possible. But
> not to worry, there is a contingency plan in place regardless the DOJ trial
> and appeals outcome. Long live Microsoft.
Again, the Clinton analogy is unmistakable. I become incensed whenever I
hear about "those damnable Republicans". BTW, I'm an independent. Bill
Clinton has committed an offense which is unmistakably criminal. As has
Bill Gates. Neither Bill will be able to keep watering the milk much
longer.
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Unix / Linux / Windows Hacker, / Boycott Microsoft!
Anime & Sonic Fan, / Use Linux/GNU!
All Around Nice Guy / Let's keep the Net and the Land FREE!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Gerard)
Crossposted-To: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: Whats the best *offline* usenet reader for Linux?
Date: 8 Jan 1999 02:27:23 GMT
On Thu, 7 Jan 1999 15:15:31 +1100, Ian Tester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:yikes. How well does the FAT filesystem handle the lotsa-little-files
:problem so common with news spools? Most modern generic Unix filesystems
:don't handle it overly well. FAT32 would greatly reduce the overhead from
:slack space. But I understand that FAT was originally written for floppies
:in mind and so is really simple but doesn't handle large directories very
:well (i.e fast or efficient).
Yep, a spool takes up a lot of space under FAT - news articles mostly
being 1K-2K, and the cluster size (on my disk) being 8K.
I still consider slrn/slrnpull worth the disk space for the spool.
Though I'd quite like something that will be a local news-server
(a leafnode/slrnpull sorta thing) but keep the articles in a database,
which is much more space-efficient (the way Agent, etc, keep their
article store).
I suspect it would be a lot better under FAT32 (smaller cluster size)
or NTFS (where the file system is a database IIRC).
:(When I get more disk space, I want to try out the reiserfs. It's
:supposed to be very good for lots of little files)
What is this creature?
--
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CD burners and MP3s: the utter annihilation of the music industry by the
computer industry continues apace. Hip! Hip! Hooray! Hip! Hip! Hooray!
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From: Yan Seiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Floppy Disk Drive
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 20:44:50 -0500
umount /dev/floppy and then change disks; then issue mount /dev/floppy
Yan
Paul Davies wrote:
> To read to floppy disk, I use mount /mnt/floppy
>
> However, when I change the disk to new disk is not picked up - an "ls"
> reveals files that were on the old disk.
>
> When I try and remount, I keep getting a "device is busy" message which
> takes about 20 mins to disappear before it reads the new floppy.
>
> Surely there must be a simpler way to read new floppies!
>
> Any help appreciated.
>
> Paul
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux: Fight for survival or on victory march?
Date: 7 Jan 1999 17:25:30 -0800
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jerry says...
>
>How does Linux fit in?
>First, Linux is both the server and workstation OS. It is essentially
>free.
first, the cost is the last thing a home user will look at.
the proof is simple. Linux has been free for how many years now? 9 years?
ok, let say 3 years just to be fair. (we have to give Linux some slack).
This thing has been free for 3 years, and yet %90 of home users still use
windows and applications written for windows. I see them at Fry's each day,
buying windows based shrink wrapped applications and games like crazy, boxes
and boxes of them. They leave and yet come back for more. and none of it
is free!
isn't that amazing?
may be ease of use and good office application and higher quality of end
user type applications on windows has something to do with it?
Bob
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From: "Stuart Updegrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: (((((((NEED REDHAT5.2))))))))
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 18:41:36 -0800
Stuart Updegrave wrote in message <773q7v$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
:Jani wrote in message <7730bp$kgl$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
::I need Redhat 5.2 .....on a fast server...please
:
:http://www.readhat.com/mirrors.html
oops .........^
make that: http://www.redhat.com/mirrors.html
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From: "93" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux: Fight for survival or on victory march?
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 16:57:05 -0000
Verbal seems to be getting a bit of a hammering ;)
Verbal Kent wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Linux rules, Linux Sucks,
>
> Before everyone goes yelping on the Linux Band wagon, and downs
>MS Windows, Linux has about as much shot as taking out MS (whatever), as
>hell freezing over!
The server-end of the market is where Linux is most likely to take out
Microsoft. Surely, since Microsoft have already merged the server & consumer
markets with Windows 2000, which is in fact NT, Linux stands a chance in the
consumer stakes as well. Okay, the server and consumer versions will be
quite different products, but if one side fails, it may drag the other side
with it.
>I use both win98 and Linux, and I tell you now,
>these 2 oses serve 2 distinct purposes, for power users, "hackers",
>Linux, is on par with Windows NT, but if you give Linux to My mom she
>wouldn't know what the hell to do, cause half of the time I don't know
>what the hell to do in Linux!!!
Graphical desktop control ("Windows") is certainly the easiest way for a
computer newcomer to use a machine and the numerous Linux project simply
keep getting better and better - KDE, Gnome, etc. From my experience of the
machines that I have built for friends and neighbours, to a computer
newcomer it doesn't matter whether the GUI is MS Windows or any X wm or the
shell is MS DOS or Linux - they still have to learn how to use it. The key
to mainstream consumer success is marketing. Products need to be in shops,
simply put.
As Linux progresses into the mainstream, I think it will become more
newcomer-friendly. We are on the brink of Linux being a known phenomenon;
previously only computer owners/users knew about Linux after a little
digging on the Internet. Once Linux boxes are sold on the high street I
think we'll see a more consumer-friendly product.
I'm not sure I like the idea of this though. Linux in NOT a "product" (okay,
it's the product of a lot of hard work, time and team work), IT IS a
phenomenon.
>Windows 98 is not a bad product it
>covers the ins and outs of its market base, very well, I plug in a modem
>it works, I plug in a sound card it works, on most occasions! You try
>the same thing in Linux, and yeah right, worx my ass! You've got to go
>reconfigure this, and that, compile this and that, and worst case
>scenario there isn't a driver for your product, in which case you'll
>have to go pick a Linux Device Driver book, which I have done, and if
>you can write a driver that works, the gods have blessed you!!!!! or
>even worse yet pay someone to write it for you, or you might get lucky
>and someone has already done so!!!
This is precisely why any Linux hardware distributer has to configure a
custom built machine. There is a bit of swing back to pre-configured, custom
built machines at the moment (eg iMAC or Intel's potential "pyramid") and I
think computer manufacturers will once again return to this hegemony as the
"upgradability" of current PCs simply turns out to be one big headache and
disappointment.
>Now I'll take an IRQ conflict in
>windows, any day over this, well not really cause I enjoy stuff like
>that!
You're brave. I'd rather spend an hour or so "configuring this, configuring
that" in Linux than an eternity of rebooting and fiddling under Windows.
>On the otherhand, if your writing perl programs, or running a web
>server, and such Linux kicks ass! For those of you who need a finally
>tuned machine, of course, Linux is the move, but if you want to Play
>Games and AOL is your bag, I'd pick Win98 hands down! All, and all, I
>see Linux as being a definite threat to NT's server/work station market,
>but it has a long way to go to threatening, if ever, MS's consumer
>market!
Sure it has a long way, but it has come a long way in eight years. Really,
it just needs some of the rough edges sanding down and a lick o' paint for
the high street. Hot on the heels of Linux is the new Amiga [hooray! -ed]
(expected for release in early 2000) with QNX writing the kernel for the new
OS. This is going to blow the remains of the Microsoft empire away :)))
[well, we live in hope -ed]
In summary, I think 1999 is going to prove Linux once and for all. The
market is ready, the big companies are taking it seriously with some
supporting it. When the MS leviathan trips over y2k and breaks it's neck, a
little penguin will prove itself.
BTW is Tux a little boy penguin or a little girl penguin? I've seen the
"sitting, legs spread" picture, but those feathers are covering any means of
determining this question. ;)
Tra la la, 93
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From: Mike Werner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RedHat Packgae Manager
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 20:49:34 -0500
http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/mini/RPM+Slackware Followed
this and it seems to work here. Slack 3.4 with 2.0.36 kernel.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lars Koeller)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.admin,comp.sys.hp.hpux
Subject: Re: I am a Unix convert
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 23:08:33 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <368fc5f0.0@calwebnnrp>,
Ilya <nospamcalweb.com> writes:
> In comp.unix.admin Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> a simple plan is to do 1-2 G for root (/), circa 1-2 * RAM for swap
>> and leave the rest in /home. this retains almost all the ease of use
>> of one giant partition, and lets you keep stuff in /home should you
>> wish to upgrade the operating system afresh (i just tar and store /etc
>> when refreshing the OS for easy restoration of configs).
>
>> i tried thinking of how to separate the more changing stuff,
>> (basically /tmp, /var and /home) from the static stuff (everything
>> else). during initialization, you can make /tmp and /var point into
>> /home with the above /, /home, swap three partitions. thus your
>> statics will almost surely be sync'd should a catastrophe occur.
>
> I am thinking of:
>
> /swap 512MB
> / 3G
> /var 1G
> /tmp 1G
> /home 3.5G
>
> That adds up to 9GB. The reason I want to give / 3GB is because I compile
> a lot of programs (over the years) and put them in /usr/local/bin/.
> Does this make sense for a 9GB drive? Maybe / 2G and /var 2G?
.. snip ...
Hmmm,
I have another plan, which seems to be very good for updating
and production.
/swap min 2xRAM
/tmp min 512MB
/var min 512MB (necessary to avoid that log file overflow
blocks the system)
/home what you need or put it also into /opt per symlink
/ min 512MB
Only the installed bases system inclusive /usr part
lives there inclusive sources (FreeBSD). Every component
additional added is put into /opt like /usr/local, ...
/opt the rest
Its really easy to upgrade, just do a fresh install on / and install the
symlinks, e.g.
/usr/local -> /opt/local
/usr/X11R6 -> /opt/X11R6
/home -> /opt/home
and so on
to get a full functional system. For a production machine it could me
necessary to split home and opt to disable suid on home partiton.
It's really easy to upgrade and backup, and if some trouble occurs, you have
all the tools you need by hand in the / partition! I haven't found a
disadvantage sine years now!
Regards
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Subject: Re: newest devel kernel 2.3.0?
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 07 Jan 1999 07:46:22 -0500
d s f o x @ c o g s c i . u c s d . e d u (David Fox) writes:
> Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > where is the newest devel kernel 2.3.0? i see 2.2.0pre4 is out but
> > where do i go for the bleeding edge?
>
> 2.2.0pre4 is the bleeding edge. If you were really on the bleeding
> edge you'd know that. :-)
i knew that. i just forgot my smiley.
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From: Darin Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: Anti-Linux FUD
Date: 06 Jan 1999 14:31:03 -0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner) writes:
> Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt. Term coined by Gene Amdahl to describe
> various misinformation tactics used by IBM (at the time) to keep IBM
> customers (or potential IBM customers) from purchasing products from
> IBM's competitors.
Here's an example of FUD from practice to make it clear what's being
talked about. Amdahl mainframes were as good as IBM mainframes in
many ways, and IBM was indeed worried about their market share. But
IBM was a *huge* company that had been around for many decades; Amdahl
was a small and new company.
Thus, if the IBM salesmen heard that a customer was thinking about
buying from Amdahl, one of the first FUD tactics was to point out that
IBM was going to be around forever, and that if you bought Amdahl,
what would you do in 5 years if Amdahl had gone out of business
(uncertainty). Then you might point out that the Amdahl machines
might not be completely compatible with IBM mainframes (doubt). Then
if the customer was stubborn, you'd hint that perhaps IBM might view
you unfavorably if you bought Amdahl and refuse to support your
existing multimillion dollar IBM machines, or refuse to pass along
discounts and saving (fear).
The IBM sales machine was well oiled and well run. If the status of a
customer was in doubt, they would send out an "army of wingtips" to
fix the problem. Ie, this army would have sales, field service techs,
developers, manager, etc. The IBM managers would wine and dine the
customer's managers; the techs and developers would knuckle down and
kick the machines into shape and placate the customer's operators, etc.
--
Darin Johnson
Where am I? In the village... What do you want? Information...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Benoit Goudreault-Emond)
Subject: Re: Newbie Idiocy
Date: 8 Jan 1999 02:53:27 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <77391e$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, J�rgen Exner wrote:
> Irina Rempt wrote in message ...
> >Christopher Mahmood wrote:
> >> ...and be sure not to type 'cat /dev/null > /dev/sda1'
> >
> >Before I can't resist trying... what *happens* when one does that?
>
>
> The first partition on the first SCSI drive will be overwritten with zeros,
> including boot sector, data and super blocks.
Hmm... Shouldn't that be /dev/zero? /dev/null is a write-only device and
has no data as a read device AFAIK.
Neat trick, BTW. I usually use dd for such... ahem... risky operations,
though. But cat is certainly as effective here...
--
Benoit Goudreault-Emond
CoFounder, KMS Group ; Student, B. Comp. Eng, Concordia University
``Being too close to a fireball can worry a man --- to death.''
-- Zeb Carter in "The Number of the Beast" by Robert A. Heinlein
Note: the "From:" address is not correct to protect myself against spam.
My actual e-mail address is: ``bgoudem AT axess DOT com''
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