Linux-Misc Digest #517, Volume #18 Fri, 8 Jan 99 17:13:11 EST
Contents:
Re: help needed compiling kernel (Peter S. Frouman)
Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (David Kastrup)
Re: HELP! I clobbered /bin/sh! ("Daniel P. Fraga")
Re: Cant compile kernel ??? help please ("Daniel P. Fraga")
Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (Marco Anglesio)
Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (mlw)
Re: Memory limited to 65Mb (Chris Welch)
Re: Floppy Disk Drive (Yves Guerin)
Re: sbin directories (Was: Anti-Linux FUD) (Floyd Davidson)
Re: Linux drivers for Canopus TOTAL 3D (Sven Jonsson)
Re: Can't find modem (Larry)
Re: Linux drivers for IOMEGA zip drive ("J�rgen Exner")
Failed dependencies and locating libraries (John Holmes)
Idea for a window manager feature ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [Q] Corel WordPerfect 8.0 ... Any experiences? (Mike Werner)
Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (Sean Eddy)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter S. Frouman)
Subject: Re: help needed compiling kernel
Date: 8 Jan 1999 20:52:24 GMT
On Fri, 08 Jan 1999 21:37:18 GMT, Peter Brookes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>I have done the following:
>make xconfig
>Set all the parameters correctly, got no errors, have a .config file
>with all the right settings in it.
>make zImage
>BUT no zImage is created on my hdrive
>Anyone got any ideas please
Where did you look for it? For x86 machines it is usually in
/usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot
If it wasn't created then there must have been some error messages. You
could redirect them to a log file so you can find out what the problem
was. For example, 'make zImage >& "make-zImage.log-$(date)"'
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From: David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: 08 Jan 1999 16:04:59 +0100
"Netnerd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> David Kastrup wrote in message ...
> >"Netnerd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >> The latest consumer poll shows that 81 percent of consumers think
> >> Microsoft has been good for consumers, and 52 percent think the case
> >> was brought to help Microsoft's rivals.
> >
> >Microsoft is not under accusation because of being bad to customers,
> >but because of illegal means for fighting competition. And of course
> >the case was brought to help Microsoft's rivals. They are the damaged
> >party of the alleged business practices. Of course it helps them if
> >Microsoft is restricted to fighting them by legal means.
>
> The US antitrust laws are designed to protect consumers, not competitors.
> Has the consumer been harmed? Of course not.
Why then is the consumer putting up with an operating system that
crashes several orders of magnitudes more than other offers? Why is
the consumer putting up with applications that force him to pay loads
of money for upgrading everything to the newest incompatible file
format? Why is he putting up with operating systems that will
configure themselves unusable if you happen to switch your modem on
before your computer as opposed to afterwards?
In what way is the consumer benefiting when Microsoft comes up all the
time with new "standards" which have the sole advantage over existing
ones that they are incompatible with them?
In the long run, the customer is taken advantage off if competition
gets obliterated.
Yes, of course the average consumer is glad that there is something
like Windows, or he would not have bought it. But this does not mean
that it is in the consumers interest if competition gets killed by
unfair means. The consumer will rather put up with Microsoft than not
to have any workable software for his specific purposes at all.
The average consumer was also very glad that Rockwell provided them
exclusively with gasoline and would have agreed that Rockwell
benefited the customer. The average comsumer would have been glad
that AT&T enabled them to telephone and would have considered this a
benefit to the customer.
That is not the question, however. The question is whether
competitors are barred the way to the market in ways that are not
legal. If they are, one has to assume that this is done because the
customer is taken more advantage off than the marketplace would
strictly demand.
Looking at the financial figures of Microsoft (revenue ratio about a
factor of 8 higher than what would be considered typical for solid
business), one can't help feeling that this might be the case.
Nobody minds it if the customer is offered a free choice and decides
to go for Microsoft. What Microsoft is accused of is doing their
utmost to deny the customer this choice. Whether or not Windows might
or might not be the best choice for the customer is not to debate.
The question is who should make the choice for the customer, and the
answer is the customer itself should be allowed to make that choice.
> Have competitors been harmed?
> Netscape's current market capitalization is $6.5 billion. This is
> hardly an example of harm. Netscape is more an example of great
> success. Asked the founders who are laughing all the way to the
> bank.
Netscape has been forced to first give their browser away, then to
sell themselves off to AOL (which does not depend on revenue from the
browser market) before its shareholders realize that it has no sound
and upholdable revenue path anymore.
> Of course if Microsoft had not competed with Netscape, Netscape may
> have retained its 80% browser monopoly and been worth even more.
"Competed"? First, they gave away the Internet Explorer for free
while Netscape sold their browser. That's not "competing". Still
nobody wanted it, even though Netscape demanded money for their
browser. Only then did they bolt it onto Windows in a way that made
it pretty hard to replace it with any competing product (including,
but not restricted to Netscape).
This is not competition as I understand the term of the word.
If they had wanted to compete, they could have continue to offer their
product separately like everybody else did. Or they could have
designed a generic interface with which browsers can be embedded into
Windows, published that, and made Internet Explorer adhere to it.
Then other browser manufacturers would have had the possibility to
compete with Internet Explorer.
What they chose to do instead is tie IE into Windows in a way that it
cannot be removed easily (at least they claim so), and not tell
anybody how any other browser could be made to replace it in that
function.
In short, they gave up competing. They told people "if you want to
get Windows, it means you use Internet Explorer period".
And they used their market monopoly to achieve that (definition of
monopoly demands more than 40% of market share, which they have in the
OS market, solidly).
This is how it appears to me.
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From: "Daniel P. Fraga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HELP! I clobbered /bin/sh!
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 18:39:58 -0200
Anand Kolatkar wrote:
>
> I made a mistake! I upgraded bash and didn't realize that /bin/sh
> was a link to /bin/bash. So when I upgraded, I put in a new /bin/
> bash but now the symlink /bin/sh is dead. So, when I had to reboot
> (only because someone had it in Win95 mode - dual boot), I can't
> get the linux system up because it can't execute /bin/sh since it
> is a dead symlink. Is there any way I can rescue myself from this
Take easy! :) First I hope you have the boot and root disks. Boot
your computer with them and type:
mount /dev/hda2 /mnt
CHANGE the /dev/hda2 with your real linux-native partition.
cd /mnt/bin
ln -sf bash sh
I hope it helps!
> Thanks for any help at all!!!
:)
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From: "Daniel P. Fraga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cant compile kernel ??? help please
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 18:42:57 -0200
Peter Brookes wrote:
> Whan i look in /usr/etc/linux/arch/386i/boot there is no zimage
> anywhere on my system.
> Can anyone please point me in the right diretion.
The right way to compile your kernel is:
cd /usr/src/linux <--- may be in another directory
make menuconfig
make dep
make clean
make zlilo
And reboot your computer.
> Which Bug do you want today ?
Sorry but we use Linux :))))))
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From: Marco Anglesio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 21:02:47 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> "Competed"? First, they gave away the Internet Explorer for free
> while Netscape sold their browser. That's not "competing". Still
> nobody wanted it, even though Netscape demanded money for their
> browser. Only then did they bolt it onto Windows in a way that made
> it pretty hard to replace it with any competing product (including,
> but not restricted to Netscape).
I think that the charges also include collusion (or attempts at collusion)
with other companies in order to exclude Netscape from various markets. I
believe Gates personally invited AOL's CEO to "screw Netscape". MS
threatened Compaq and won to make IE the default browser on Compaq
machines.
Creating an integrated product is not illegal, and falls within
permissible business practises as defined by MS's consent decree with the
Department of Justice. However, whether win98 is truly an integrated
product within the definition of the consent decree is up to the eye of
the beholder - it isn't a clear-cut case by any stretch of the imagination
(as shown by the special master appointed by Penfield Jackson, who removed
the IE icon from the desktop with ease).
Those are the thrusts of the antitrust suit: that MS colluded with other
manufacturers to damage Netscape's core business (the browser market),
which is well-nigh eliminated as a viable prospect at present, that IE4
was dumped on the market to damage Netscape's core business, and that
win98 violates the consent decree signed by MS in MS's last venture into
antitrust.
marco
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From: mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 14:31:32 +0000
Netnerd wrote:
>
> The latest consumer poll shows that 81 percent of consumers think Microsoft
> has been good for consumers, and 52 percent think the case was brought to
> help Microsoft's rivals.
Most people think Velvita is food. The vast majority of people not
directly involved with an issue are usually misinformed. Were you to use
an analogy, somethink like the only gas staion within 20 miles charging
100% more for gas and the owner of the gas station also being sole owner
of 98% of the undeveloped land in the area, the average consumer would
absolutely think it was wrong.
>
> The poll also shows that 76 percent of consumers think U.S. District Judge
> Thomas Penfield Jackson should find Microsoft not guilty of violating the
> Sherman Antitrust Act when the trial concludes sometime in the next two or
> three months.
Again, the average consumer is misinformed. Microsoft puts Billions into
advertising each year. Hell, adversiting gets people to buy little clay
animals on which one grows moss. Of course, advertising can persuade
people to side with microsoft.
>
> The consumer has spoken, but will this affect Penfield Jackson?s rulings?
> Of course not, a biased and angry Penfield will rule against Microsoft on
> every count and impose the most severe penalty he believes possible. But
> not to worry, there is a contingency plan in place regardless the DOJ trial
> and appeals outcome. Long live Microsoft.
Why are people taking this up as a personal matter? This is something I
don't get. This isn't sports here, there are important issues involved,
issues that will affect the industry for as long as the industry exists.
I am troubled by the fact that M$ is being charged, but, I also think
that it is probably be nessisary.
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From: Chris Welch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Memory limited to 65Mb
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 01:36:01 +0000
BugKiller wrote:
>
> Hello
> I use a slackware 3.4 and have 128 Mo SDram.
> Linux only show me 65 Mb ...
> Could someone help me ?
> Thanx :)
This is oft asked. You should learn to "RTFM", but I'll tell you how.
in /etc/lilo.conf add append="mem=128M" to every image.
image=/dev/hda1
label=Linux
append="mem=128M"
See? You should look up these kinds of questions, though.
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From: Yves Guerin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Floppy Disk Drive
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 16:02:31 -0500
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Hello,
do a "cd .." from /mnt/floppy before to umount and before to mount the
floppy
Yves
Yan Seiner wrote:
> umount /dev/floppy and then change disks; then issue mount /dev/floppy
>
> Yan
>
> Paul Davies wrote:
>
> > To read to floppy disk, I use mount /mnt/floppy
> >
> > However, when I change the disk to new disk is not picked up - an "ls"
> > reveals files that were on the old disk.
> >
> > When I try and remount, I keep getting a "device is busy" message which
> > takes about 20 mins to disappear before it reads the new floppy.
> >
> > Surely there must be a simpler way to read new floppies!
> >
> > Any help appreciated.
> >
> > Paul
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Floyd Davidson)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: sbin directories (Was: Anti-Linux FUD)
Date: 8 Jan 1999 19:18:49 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Matthew Kirkwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 8 Jan 1999, Floyd Davidson wrote:
>
>> >> >Worse than that, the formatting ioctl is root-only, isn't it?
>
>> >> If that were true, how would it make fdformat a candidate for
>> >> an sbin directory?
>> >
>> >Because it would be of no use to anyone but root.
>>
>> However, that is also untrue. (And is exactly why some programs
>> are setuid and owned by root.)
>
>Floppy formatting is a hardware task. Granted, it's controlled by
>software, but that is not relevant. Users are not allowed to use
>the formatting ioctl(), so a program which has as its sole purpose
>the controlled use of that very same ioctl() is pretty useless to
>non-root users.
>
>> The reason a binary should be in an sbin directory would
>> be because it is a systems admin tool only, that only users
>> doint systems admin work will use.
>
>And I claim that fdformat is a "systems admin tool only".
>
>Do I win a prize?
Yes.
1) the ioctl is not restricted to root.
2) fdformat is not in an sbin directory because
it is not a systems admin tool only.
Floyd
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From: Sven Jonsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Linux drivers for Canopus TOTAL 3D
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 22:26:17 +0100
Billy Bob wrote:
> I know that Red Hat linux 5.2 supports Diamond viper 330 with RIVA chipset.
> Howcome it doesn't support the canopus TOTAL 3D with the same RIVA
> chipset??? I paid US $ 230 for this card and Linux doesn't suppport it ??
> why ? why ? why? :-(
>
> Asim
Hi Billy Bob.
Did you actually try configuring X for another card with the same chipset,
before
crossposting your complaint to all linux news-groups you could find ?
I guess not, because if you had, you would have seen that it actually works.
At least
on my box, with canopus TOTAL 3D, with the RIVA 128 chipset, and the RH 5.2
distribution.
/Sven
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Larry)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Can't find modem
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 8 Jan 1999 21:28:46 GMT
On Thu, 07 Jan 1999 17:14:06 -0700, Donald Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have a NewCom 56K Plug 'n Play modem which works just fine under
>Windows 95 on Comm 4. Under RedHat Linux 5.2 I can't seem to get a
>dialtone. I have tried Comm 1 thru Comm 4 using minicom and can't get a
>sound.
>
>The box says for Windows 95 or higher. Is that my problem???
If this is a winmodem it will not work with linux.. or any other
OS for that matter. Findout this piece of info and you will have eliminated
at least one possibility.
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From: "J�rgen Exner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Linux drivers for IOMEGA zip drive
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 13:26:09 -0800
>In article <76vs77$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Stephen Richard FREELAND <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> In comp.os.linux.misc J�rgen Exner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> :>In article <753i7a$3kd$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> :> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark O Thomas) wrote:
>> :>>
>> :>> Where can I find drivers for the Zip and Jaz drives?
>>
>> : You don't need any.
>> : It's just another drive and all drivers you need are the standard
drivers
>> : as for any other HD.
>> Um, wrong.
>> Could be your kernel already has the right driver in there, but it
>> is *definitely* not your run-of-the-mill IDE hard drive code.
>> [...]
Well, the original poster didn't specify what kind of interface his drives
use, so I assumed SCSI.
And for SCSI those removable drives are pure vanilla standard HDs where you
don't need any special drivers at all.
See, this is actually the beauty of SCSI.
jue
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From: John Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.rpm,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Failed dependencies and locating libraries
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 10:00:33 +0900
I know I have seen information on this before but I can't remember where
so please pardon my asking these questions. I am running Red Hat 5.2 on
an Intel compatible system.
I wanted to install mysql-3.21.30-1.i386.rpm from a contrib cd and got
the message :
"failed dependencies:
libncurses.so.3.0 is needed by mysql-3.21.30-1"
Looking around I ran "locate libncurses" and got the following:
/usr/i486-linux-libc5/lib/libncurses.so.1.9.9e
/usr/i486-linux-libc5/lib/libncurses.so.3.0
/usr/lib/libncurses++.a
/usr/lib/libncurses.a
/usr/lib/libncurses.so
/usr/lib/libncurses.so.4
/usr/lib/libncurses.so.4.2
/usr/lib/libncurses_g.a
/usr/lib/libncurses_p.a
Here is my question...
Since it appears that I have libncurses.so.3.0 installed (as well as
libncurses.so.4 and libncurses.so.4.2) why do I get the failed
dependencies message and what can I do about it? I know I can install
with --nodeps but this seems like a mistake.
My biggest problem running Linux is the amazing proliferation of
libraries and how to handle them. I understand this is part of the
flexibility of Linux but it is a mess for us relative newbies.
Can someone please explain this whole library organization thing to me
or better yet, point me to a clear explanation somewhere in a FAQ, book
or archive? Thanks for any help you can provide.
John Holmes
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Idea for a window manager feature
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 19:52:23 GMT
Wouldn't it be great if you could do a modified click (1) and it would draw a
box onscreen (2), and any windows whose borders intersect the box would be
selected, and then you could perform a window operation on all of them at
once?
For example, you could have window A taking up the whole screen and windows B
and C floating above it. Then you could draw a box around B and C (3) and move
them both out of the way together.
Or you could select them in some other way.. But wouldn't it be cool if you
could group together a bunch of windows like that?
Is there a WM out there that supports anything close to this? Am i alone in
thinking this is a cool idea? Is there some flaw to it that i'm not seeing?
1. i.e. meta-middle click or something
2. like in Win9x or MacOS, when you draw a box on the desktop and can select a
bunch of icons at once
3. But A would not get selected, even though the box is within the space of A,
because it doesn't cross any of its borders
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From: Mike Werner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Q] Corel WordPerfect 8.0 ... Any experiences?
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 20:37:14 -0500
Irina Rempt wrote:
> Same here with Slackware 3.5. I use it for my work which means I only
> have to reboot to Windows to convert everything to Word (about once a
> week, that is) because my boss wants it that way. Now for a new version
> of Wine that doesn't hide the buttons in the Save dialog so I can rin
> Word 2 under it...
In my limited playing with Word Perfect it appears to be able to save
docs in Word format. Or at least the ones I tried came out fine. Or
are you doing something funky that WP just can't handle? ;)
> > One slight installation caveat is the ...
>
> We were forewarned, thanks to this newsgroup :-)
That's how I knew about it - lurking on this (and other) newsgroup.
*Lots* of good tips that I've picked up doing that. Between these
newsgroups and a couple of listservs I'm subbed to I've picked up about
a ton of great info. Gotta love it! ;)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sean Eddy)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: 08 Jan 1999 09:35:58 -0600
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> David Kastrup
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Well, in *our* country court cases are decided by the law, not by
>public votes, but of course, in the land that has made lynching
>popular the procedures might be different.
>... Bochum, Germany
^^^^^^^(!!)
Wow, a 10 on the irony-o-meter. Congratulations.
And looks like the Godwin's-law-o-meter is flickering too...
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