Linux-Misc Digest #516, Volume #18                Fri, 8 Jan 99 16:13:14 EST

Contents:
  Re: Running a program automatically (Jerry Lynn Kreps)
  Re: SAP-GUI (Christopher B. Browne)
  Re: RedHat and Win95 (Josh Rusko)
  Re: Printcap settings? (Mark Ramos)
  Re: Change Red Hat 5.x server name (Mark Ramos)
  FS: Official Redhat book, RedHat5.2 CD, and boot floppy ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: NOSPAM in addresses.. (Jeff Holloway)
  Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (Andy Thomas)
  Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (David Kastrup)
  Re: help installing g77 on SPARC 2 running RedHat LINUX 5.2? (Vik Olliver)
  Re: how to mount fat so everyone can write to it (Ed Young)
  Driving DLT4700 jukebox under RedHat 5.2/Intel... (Judy Gallagher)
  Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers ("Brent Metzler")
  Re: NOSPAM in addresses.. (Juergen Heinzl)
  Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (Juergen Heinzl)
  Re: 2038 and Linux (Todd Knarr)

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From: Jerry Lynn Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Running a program automatically
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 18:36:54 -0600

SaintZero wrote:
> 
> How do you, when you boot up Linux get a program to run automatically?

Putting the command in boot.local if you are using SuSE.
Or in rc.config or even .profile to have it fire when "user" logs on.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne)
Subject: Re: SAP-GUI
Date: 8 Jan 1999 00:49:47 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Thu, 07 Jan 1999 15:20:58 +0800, hamid misnan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
>Christopher Browne wrote:
>> On Wed, 06 Jan 1999 00:20:12 +0100, Karl Esau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >the only thing that I still miss is a Linux SAP-GUI for SAP R/3.
>> >SAP delivers X/GUIs for nearly every commercial Unix.
>> >
>> >Is there either a Linux SAP-GUI or is it possible to emulate X11
>> >for AIX, HPUX or DIGITAL Unix binaries on Linux?
>> 
>> I have run the Digital UNIX binaries on an OSF/1 box, and exported the
>> display to a Linux box.  That's not the answer you wanted; the straight
>> answer is that *none* of the existing Motif-based binaries will run on
>> Linux.  The packaging tools that SAP AG uses don't run happily on Linux;
>> that notably includes any attempt to run the Digital UNIX version on
>> Linux/Alpha.  (I haven't had opportunity to try Linux/SPARC :-).)
>> 
>> There is rumor of someone getting a Windows version of SAPGUI running
>> atop WINE; I haven't had success thus far.
>
>There should be a Java version of SAP-GUI which should work across OSes.
>But I have not seen any in production just yet and wondering where can I
>download that version. In SAP homepage, they were saying that the Java
>version need to be connected to a Unix server (HPUX/DigitalUx/Sun) but
>will probably won't run on Linux.

If you look at the documentation on SAPSERV, you'll find instead that
the Java version must connect to an IIS server component (which I'd
guess represents some sort of very rough equivalent to SAPROUTER),
which, as many are aware, only runs on Windows NT.

Thus, while the Java GUI may run on a Linux JVM, it needs a "proxy"
running NT, IIS, and some form of "SAP proxy."  That decidedly does
*NOT* get you a useful Linux-based solution...

-- 
Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.  
-- Henry Spencer          <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - "What have you contributed to Linux today?..."

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From: Josh Rusko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RedHat and Win95
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 14:47:40 -0500

switch the drives around so the 2.1GB is primary master and the 1.2 is
primary slave. windoze doesn't work and play well with others and insists
on using (i believe...) the first partition of the first fixed drive. Evil
windoze will not cooperate so if you want it on the 2.1GB drive it must be
primary master

Matt Cobley wrote:

> Hi,
>         I'm a bit of a newbie when it comes to setting up Linux, and I
> want to install RedHat 5.2 and Win95 together.
>         I have 2 ide hard drives, Primary Master :- 1.2Gb and Primary
> Slave :- 2.1Gb.
>         I would, Ideally like to have RedHat and it's swap on the 1.2
> disk, and Win95 on the Slave, but Win95 doesn't seem to want to
> install on this disk. Can anyone help me?
>
>         Matt


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From: Mark Ramos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Printcap settings?
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 09:41:08 -0800

GC wrote:

> Hi,
>
> How do I set up a Canon BJC-210 printer under Linux. I've read that you have
> to configure the /etc/printcap file, but I don't know how. What driver do I
> need? How can I print from WordPerfect 8 for Linux? Do I just select the lp
> device? Right now when I select the lp device under WP8, all that the
> printer prints is a few lines of garbled text. I have to turn off the
> printer to stop the printing. But as soon as I turn it back on, it just
> continues printing garbled text non-stop.
>
> Any help is appreciated
>
> --
> Please post, no e-mail.

In X type "printtool &"

Mark



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From: Mark Ramos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Change Red Hat 5.x server name
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 09:45:23 -0800

Gene Wilburn wrote:

> If you want to do this manually, edit the file /etc/sysconfig/network
> (even if you don't have a network card).
>
> Change the line that says HOSTNAME=xxx to HOSTNAME=yyy
>
> Next time you reboot, your host will be renamed. If I recall correctly,
> the file /etc/HOSTNAME is set dynamically. Editing that file will not
> permanently change the name.

Don't forget the /etc/hosts file ....

Mark



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: FS: Official Redhat book, RedHat5.2 CD, and boot floppy
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 00:53:29 GMT

I have the following packaged together for sale.

* Official Redhat Installation guide
* Cheapbytes RedHat 5.2 CD ROM
* Boot Floppy, in case you don't know how to make one.

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From: Jeff Holloway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NOSPAM in addresses..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 11:54:49 -0800

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> My opinion remains unchanged.  These activities do nothing to reduce
>> the spam levels nor to end the activities of spammers.  I look forward
>> to the day that news servers are configured to require a correct
>> return address, just as mail servers now are.

[snip]

Your belief that all mail servers are configured to require a correct return
address is groundless. Most of the spam not generated by 'throwaway accounts'
is sent through mail servers that have not been configured properly.

Jeff

-- 
Jeff Holloway        | He had that rare weird electricity about him --
System Administrator | that extremely wild and heavy presence that you
Tech 7 Systems, Inc. | only see in a person who has abandoned all hope
[EMAIL PROTECTED]      | of ever behaving "normally" - Hunter S. Thompson,
                     | "Fear and Loathing '72"
     Not a member of the Lumber Cartel (tinlc) and not Unit #1572

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From: Andy Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 20:22:37 +0000

On Fri, 8 Jan 1999, Jeremy Mathers wrote:

> In article <775g0n$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Liang-Shing Ng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >It is as good as public opinion that says Clinton shouldn't be
> >impeached.
> 
> The thing you have to keep in mind when interpreting the Clinton polls
> is that 85% of the population doesn't know what impeachment is.
> 
> Seriously, the same polls that find these ridiculously high approval
> numbers for Clinton also find that only 15% of those surveyed don't
> think that impeachment == removal from office.


Excuse me if I am missing something but what does this have to do with
Linux?

Andy


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From: David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: 08 Jan 1999 21:41:30 +0100

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mayor Of R'lyeh) writes:

> On 08 Jan 1999 01:57:01 +0100, David Kastrup
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> chose to bless us
> all with this bit of wisdom:
> 
> >"Netnerd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >> The consumer has spoken, but will this affect Penfield Jackson�s
> >> rulings?  Of course not, a biased and angry Penfield will rule
> >> against Microsoft on every count and impose the most severe penalty
> >> he believes possible.  But not to worry, there is a contingency plan
> >> in place regardless the DOJ trial and appeals outcome.  Long live
> >> Microsoft.
> >
> >Well, in *our* country court cases are decided by the law, not by
> >public votes, but of course, in the land that has made lynching
> >popular the procedures might be different.
> 
>  Do I understand this right? A German citizen wants to name call based
> on a countriy's past? A fucking GERMAN wants to go down that road?
> Were you absent on the day they went over your country's history, in
> say the 1940's? You might want to go look it up before you start this
> kind of crap.

It is not me that has declared that the court trial should be decided
by public vote.  And I guess if you want to crank up WWII as an
argument, you got it the wrong way round.  The Germans have been
notorious in the Third Reich for not voting but instead adhering
straight to authorities, to an insane degree.

-- 
David Kastrup                                     Phone: +49-234-700-5570
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]       Fax: +49-234-709-4209
Institut f�r Neuroinformatik, Universit�tsstr. 150, 44780 Bochum, Germany

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From: Vik Olliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: dc.org.linux-users,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: help installing g77 on SPARC 2 running RedHat LINUX 5.2?
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 09:31:42 +1300

I saw something on the web the other day:

Randy Arndt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> reports that the following worked:

     $ uname -a
     SunOS atlas 5.5.1 Generic Sun4u sparc SUNW,Ultra-1

     CPPFLAGS=-Df2cFortran
     CC=gcc # version 2.7.2.2.f.2
     CFLAGS=-O
     FC=f77 # symbolic link to g77 2.7.2.2.f.2
     FFLAGS=-O
     CXX=c++ # symbolic link to gcc 2.7.2.2.f.2


Now perhaps you can help me. I need to know which package contains the
stdio.h files. I've installed every kernel and gcc package (RH 5.0) I
can think of and there are no sys\*.h or stdio.h files appearing
anywhere on my HD.

Harry Jenter wrote:
> I recently installed RedHat LINUX 5.2 on an old Sparcstation 2
> that I have. It seems to be working great. I now need a FORTRAN
> compiler for that machine.  Is there a simple way to get a
> FORTRAN compiler installed without having to reMAKE gcc before
> MAKEing g77? I'm worried that I would break gcc (or some software
> that relies on it) in the process. As a point of reference: I'm
> new to both LINUX and RPM, but not UNIX.

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From: Ed Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to mount fat so everyone can write to it
Date: 8 Jan 1999 01:27:25 GMT

Sebastian Bo�ung wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm pretty new to Linux and I'm wondering how you mount a FAT
> partition (vfat) so everyone - not just root - can write to it.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Sebastian

Secure Mounting for DOS Partitions:

In order to open up permissions on your DOS partitions in a
secure way do the following:

Note: in the samples below the dos usrid (63) and grpid(63)
      were selected so they wouldn't duplicate any other
      usrid or grpid in /etc/passwd or /etc/group.
      
      Also, this solution works with RedHat 5.1, you may
      have to adjust it slightly if you are using a 
      different distribution.

1) Make a dos user who can't login by adding the following 
   line to /etc/passwd:
     dos:*:63:63:MSDOS Accessor:/dos:

2) Make a dos group and add users to the dos group.  In the
   following example root and ejy are in the dos group.  To
   do this add a line like the following to /etc/group:
     dos::63:root,ejy

3) Add the following line (changed to suit your system) to 
   /etc/fstab:
     /dev/hda1  /C      vfat    uid=63,gid=63,umask=007 0 0
   
   Of course you have to locate your DOS partitions in the 
   first place.  This is done by issuing the following 
   commands as 'root':
     /sbin/fdisk -l
     df
     cat /etc/fstab

   The `fdisk -l` command lists all available devices.  `df`
   shows which devices are mounted and how much is on them.
   And /etc/fstab lists all mountable devices.  The devices
   remaining are Extended partitions, a kind of a partition
   envelop, which you don't want to mount.  And the 
   partitions allocated to other operating systems which you
   may want to mount.

4) Create a mount point for your DOS disk by issuing the 
   following commands as root:
     mkdir /C
     chown dos.dos /C

With this setup the C: drive is mounted at boot time to /C.  
Only root and ejy can read and write to it.  Note that vfat 
in /etc/fstab works for vfat16 (and vfat32 natively for 
Linux 2.0.34 and above).

Enjoy...

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Driving DLT4700 jukebox under RedHat 5.2/Intel...
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Judy Gallagher)
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 20:42:00 GMT

Folks,

        I'm setting up a Linux box (RedHat 5.2/Intel), and need to attach
a DLT 4700 jukebox (Quantum, CompacTape IV, 20/40 GB) to the SCSI bus. 
I went through the exercise of editing the kernel device driver file
under SunOS 4.1.3-U1 (and rebuilding the kernel) on the SPARC box this
drive USED to hang off of.  Can anyone tell me what's different about
setting up a device driver for this jukebox under RedHat (as I'm a 
newbie to Linux)?

Thanks,

Judy
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: "Brent Metzler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 12:52:46 -0600


William Sonna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:05C6FUhLDNUU-pn2-St5TPzdKdZYv@localhost...

>
>Unfortunately, we seem to have an entire political party that doesn't
>think the results matter if a legal loophole can be found to undo
>them.

Yes, those democrats need to shut up and realize that a country needs to be
run by real *rules* and not fake polls that let them do what they want.

Democrats need to shut up, sit down, and judge by law.

-Mr. Bob



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Subject: Re: NOSPAM in addresses..
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 20:48:28 GMT

In article <775m26$jps$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>  Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> My opinion remains unchanged.  These activities do nothing to reduce
>> the spam levels nor to end the activities of spammers.  I look forward
>> to the day that news servers are configured to require a correct
>> return address, just as mail servers now are.
I do agree ...
>
>How about a happy medium.  The purpose of putting nospam in your return
>address is to keep from getting spam.  I think a standard of
><nospam.realuserid@realdomain> would meet this requirement.  Everyone would
>know who sent the message.  But just addiing this to a mailing list would not
>work.  It should then be illegal to remove the nospam prefix for purposes of
>adding the user id to a mailing list.

If it would be illegal to add one to a mailing list the problem would not
exist already, so where is the beef ?

Cheers,
Juergen

-- 
\ Real name     : J�rgen Heinzl                 \       no flames      /
 \ EMail Private : [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ send money instead /
  \ Phone Private : +44 181-332 0750              \                  /

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 20:48:31 GMT

In article <1999Jan8.153614@ukwit01>, Lack Mr G M wrote:
>In article <e8rB19wO#[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Netnerd" 
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>|> 
>|> The US antitrust laws are designed to protect consumers, not competitors.
>|> Has the consumer been harmed?  Of course not.  Have competitors been harmed?
>|> Netscape's current market capitalization is $6.5 billion.  This is hardly an
>|> example of harm.  Netscape is more an example of great success.
>
>   If I hit you with a cricket bat you are worse of than if I didn't.

I might go and hit you both to reduce the amount of postings 8) ... gee,
come on. They asked about 1000 people ... great ... "long live M$" ...
whatever |-O ... take a break and think whether stuff like that is even
worth to bother.

Eat sh**, 3 billion flies cannot be wrong (8-o
Juergen

-- 
\ Real name     : J�rgen Heinzl                 \       no flames      /
 \ EMail Private : [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ send money instead /
  \ Phone Private : +44 181-332 0750              \                  /

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From: Todd Knarr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2038 and Linux
Date: 8 Jan 1999 01:33:50 GMT

Andy Key <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Going '64-bit' doesn't necessarily imply sizeof(time_t)==8 surely.
> I thought it could mean that pointers got bigger, but int could stay at 4
> bytes, long could be 4 or 8, and maybe longlong was the way to get 8 byte.

64-bit machines typically manipulate 64-bit integers better than 32-bit
ones, having 64-bit registers and a natural 64-bit operand size, so int
typically is 64 bits on them. You could keep int 32 bits, but the only
reason would be if it was easier to manipulate 32-bit integers on your
64-bit CPU and you'd need a truly twisted CPU architect to arrange that.

> Of course, simply changing the size_t typedef doesn't necessarily help.
> Time/Date information must surely be in masses of files, sometimes in
> binary form.

True, but this can be handled when reading in the data ( assuming you have
some way of detecting file format version ) or by a fairly simple conversion
on the files ( pad field out with 4 leading 0 bytes ).

> What is the objection to declaring size_t as unsigned long? Then it would

How do you represent 1 Jan 1969 when time_t is unsigned? I know a number
of programs that represent times before epoch as a negative number of
seconds, and the concept is useful.

-- 
We won, didn't we? Cope!
                                -- Mimi, Reality Check #8

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