Linux-Misc Digest #526, Volume #18 Sat, 9 Jan 99 01:13:12 EST
Contents:
Re: dosemu question (Frank Miles)
Communicator, Sites, and Window Managers (iNoDE)
Re: 98/Linux install partition question ("Jess Canada")
Root via Telnet ("Sean Connolly")
Re: Converting between Linux's (Geoff Allsup)
Re: PPP/Online with Cwix.com ISP (Patrik Israelsson)
Re: NOSPAM in addresses.. (William Burrow)
Re: Leafnode - few articles (Dale Pontius)
Re: NOSPAM in addresses.. (William Burrow)
Re: Root Password Not Working - Pls Help ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: PPP cannot determine remote ip address (Steve Lunson)
Re: How to build chat room with in Linux? (Christian Marcelo C Pinheiro)
Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ... ("TURBO1010")
Re: help installing g77 on SPARC 2 running RedHat LINUX 5.2? (Mark Brown)
Re: help installing g77 on SPARC 2 running RedHat LINUX 5.2? (Mark Brown)
gcc/ld options ? (Andrae Behrens)
Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (Larry)
copying memory addresses for a process ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Benchmarks for Linux multi-processor. (ekihn)
Re: man pages and Texinfo (Tom Phelps)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank Miles)
Subject: Re: dosemu question
Date: 8 Jan 1999 16:02:06 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Hector Gutierrez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi, everydoby.
>
> I have just installed Redhat-5.1, and installed dosemu-0.66.7 and I
>dont now how to acces my linux partition from dosemu. I have tried de
>following command:
> lredir d: linux\fs/
>but this don't work. After this command I can't chage to disk D: (my
>root partition)
>and if I try:
> dir D:
>dosemu die with the following message:
> general protection at 0x14b2: 26
> ERROR: SIGSEGV, protected insn...exiting!
>
>What's wrong with dosemu?
Nothing, probably. You probably have 'FreeDos' rather than DrDos or
OpenDos or MS-DOS. FreeDos does not support lredir (at least not yet).
This is probably in the FAQ, so you are urged to Read That Fine Manual.
You might also want to upgrade your DOSEMU. Don't know if there is an
rpm for it, but there are more current stable versions available.
The latest versions are easier to configure.
-frank
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From: iNoDE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Communicator, Sites, and Window Managers
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 20:09:07 -0600
I use Communicator 128bit (tar.gz manually installed) w/rh5.2 all
upgrades. I also have blackbox .50.2, fvwm 2.1.15, fvwm95 2.0.43a,
afterstep 1.6.6, windowmaker20.3, and kde 1.1alpha...
When I go to http://ty.com and select "Meet our new starts" under every
windowmanager (except KDE) communicator locks up.
When I go to http://www.freshmeat.net... it starts loading the page and
again under almost (except KDE and afterstep) all of the windowmanagers
communicator dissappears on this site (started happening since they
changed their format a few weeks ago.)
I only have communicator loaded to test it and with the cache cleaned
up in each case...
Anyone has any ideas on why this is happening? Thanks a lot...
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From: "Jess Canada" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 98/Linux install partition question
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 21:15:48 -0700
Programs like Partition Magic and Partition Commander work great, but FIPS,
a free program, works great too. You'll need to make sure you're using FIPS
2.0, as the older version does not support FAT32. You can download this
file at http://www.mcn.net/~jesscanada/fips20.zip
Jess
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Yeah - your going to have to either backup your data (which is always
>a good idea when partitioning) and re-partition your drive or shrink
>your partition and install linux in the space you've provided. This is
>the method I used and Win98 has no idea linux is on the same machine.
>I used Partition Magic 4 but I think you can do the same with FIPS?
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From: "Sean Connolly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Root via Telnet
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 15:15:21 -0000
How do you prevent/allow root from loging in via telnet ?.
TIA
Sean C
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Geoff Allsup)
Subject: Re: Converting between Linux's
Date: 8 Jan 1999 16:02:49 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 7 Jan 1999 18:22:27 -0800, Jon P LeVitre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I plan to convert my home PC from Slackware to SuSE,
>and I was wondering how much of the old O/S I should
>undo before installing the new one.
>
>Can I just slap the SuSE on top of Slackware, or should
>reformat the disk and install SuSE from scratch, or do
>something in between?
>
>Any info or pointers would be greatly appreciated.
>jonl
I've done several of this sort of "upgrade" - my feeling is, take the
opportunity to start clean by reformatting/checking from scratch. Do make
backups of /etc and /etc/rc.d plus root's home directory hidden files
and maybe your user home directory hidden files - this usually fits on a
floppy or two, and can be handy when trying to recreate your old
environment after the new install.
Anyway, just my opinion...have fun!
geoff
--
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Geoff Allsup Upper Ocean Processes Group
Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution Woods Hole, MA, USA
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From: Patrik Israelsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: PPP/Online with Cwix.com ISP
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 03:40:51 +0100
"Daniel P. Fraga" wrote:
> Draco wrote:
>
> > do probably most ISPs. When I try to connect through EzPPP in Linux, I
> > can't get on. It never asks for a password or login name. I have tried
> > using the terminal window and it still will not ask for that info. I was
> > wondering if anyone knows anything I should do, or should I just get a
> > new ISP??
>
> Maybe your ISP uses PAP or CHAP authentication. Please check my
> page and see if it helps.
>
> --
> http://members.xoom.com/ilovelinux/
Also, the documentation in ezppp describes how to use PAP within ezppp. Try
that.
/ Patrik
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: NOSPAM in addresses..
Date: 9 Jan 1999 04:05:18 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 08 Jan 1999 23:11:54 GMT,
Valentin Abramov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I must say, that once I received spam from very stupid spammer, where all
>recipients was listed (instead of forged mailing list). I had old address
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] and in list was addresses like
>
...
>etc.
>
>In other words, all possible combinations. Note, this my address was at least
>1 year as dead. One of conbinations included new address -
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] SO - please, don't be so silly to think that spammers
>don't detect your real address from simple [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I don't use nospam. Seems to work fairly well, but my email address is
spread all over the place anyway. Besides, spammers use CDs full of
dubious addresses, must be paying hundreds for them judging from some
of the spams for spamming software that I've gotten.
>nospmam in addresses bothers me much more than spammers, so I never ansver to
>such messages with nospam, I simply ignore them. There are much more
So what do I care? If I really wanted an email response, I'd take out
the ``nospam'' and allow an email reply. I'd also expect (and recently
just got) a new flood of spam mail.
>effective ways to fight against spam, one of them - NO RELAY in mailing
>hosts. Please think about.
Wow, what great advice. However, there is only ONE mailer that I can
change, my own. Think about that.
Y'know, people who use ``nospam'' are probably so happy not recieving spam,
that they couldn't be bothered to listen to your ideology anyway. ;)
--
William Burrow -- New Brunswick, Canada o
Copyright 1999 William Burrow ~ /\
~ ()>()
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dale Pontius)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Leafnode - few articles
Date: 8 Jan 1999 16:42:33 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pietro Montelatici) writes:
> I've just installed Leafnode. I configured it with no limits set (no maxfetch,
> no maxcrosspost, no maxage) apart for initialfetch = 100.
>
> I run fetch -f, everything fine. I run fetch -vv, ok. I run fetch -vv again
> after 24h and it downloaded only few articles from all the subscribed groups.
> Too few.
>
Have you used a newsreader to connect to fetchmail, and try to read
some groups from it? By default, fetchmail doesn't fetch much - it's
demand-driven. Before it'll start fetching groups, you have to
demand them with a newsreader.
Dale Pontius
(NOT speaking for IBM)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: NOSPAM in addresses..
Date: 9 Jan 1999 04:13:40 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 9 Jan 1999 02:06:50 GMT,
Wisquatuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In comp.os.linux.networking [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> How about a happy medium. The purpose of putting nospam in your
>> return address is to keep from getting spam. I think a standard of
>> <nospam.realuserid@realdomain> would meet this requirement.
>> Everyone would know who sent the message.
>
>Including the spammers. My problem with that approach is that it
>would do nothing to stop spam, and yet -still- be a (minor) irritation
>to people trying to do e-mail replies.
Well, another idea that occurs to me is this. The ISP provides users
with two email IDs. One for general email use, the second for use with
USENET messages as a valid reply address. The client software is somehow
smart enough to know that one of the email address is exclusively for
replies from USENET.
The messages in this mailbox are filtered against a list of subject lines
used when posting to newsgroups. This might take up some storage for
prolific authors, but it is only hypothetical anyway. There are other
difficulties, but the biggest is technological -- the software to do this
is simply not here. It might be an idea for someone like AOL, however.
--
William Burrow -- New Brunswick, Canada o
Copyright 1999 William Burrow ~ /\
~ ()>()
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Root Password Not Working - Pls Help
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 04:02:16 +0100
David Mills wrote:
> I had changed the Root password and now can't get back in. Any ideas,
> please help.
>
> Thanks,
> New and Frustrated...
> ~Dave
if you are using LILO (especially RH) you must pass 'linux single' as boot
option
which will take you to runlevel 1 from which you can just type 'passwd'
and give a new root password
Martijn
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From: Steve Lunson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PPP cannot determine remote ip address
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 13:03:03 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks everyone for their assistance, but I've finally solved the
problem.
My solution was to change ISP's, and I connected first time!
Once again thanks to everyone for their help.
Steve Lunson
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From: Christian Marcelo C Pinheiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: How to build chat room with in Linux?
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 14:53:22 -0300
There is a lot of free chat services on the net, or you can install a chat
server either.
Try finding the MAGMA Chatserver in Yahoo...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'd like to know this as well. Anyone?
>
> Thanks!
>
> James
>
> >
> > I have a home server with RH 5.1 and I'm running apache on it. I would
> > like to setup a chatroom for my friends to chat in my server. Does
> > anyone know where I can grab some info about this topic?
> >
> > Kelvin
> >
>
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From: "TURBO1010" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ...
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 20:17:47 -0800
This is pathetic.
superdoo wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>PalmII@ .com (soume yoeung guih) wrote:
>>
>> Linus is such a pansy mother fucker. He needs real balls like bill
>> gates. Linus says "Hey Im a gay boy and give my shit away." Bill says:
>> "I own you linus mother fucker."
>> Please do not flame me .. its only an opinion.
>'tis the funniest troll I've ever read! I think I'll start a new sport:
>Extreme Trolling
>
>--
>superdoo
>remove yourclothes before replying
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From: Mark Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: dc.org.linux-users,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: help installing g77 on SPARC 2 running RedHat LINUX 5.2?
Date: 09 Jan 1999 05:00:10 +0000
Vik Olliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Now perhaps you can help me. I need to know which package contains the
> stdio.h files. I've installed every kernel and gcc package (RH 5.0) I
> can think of and there are no sys\*.h or stdio.h files appearing
> anywhere on my HD.
Install the glibc-dev package. The libraries are shared between all
the compilers on the system, as are their development packages.
--
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http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/
EUFS http://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/
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From: Mark Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: dc.org.linux-users,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: help installing g77 on SPARC 2 running RedHat LINUX 5.2?
Date: 09 Jan 1999 05:06:33 +0000
Harry Jenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I recently installed RedHat LINUX 5.2 on an old Sparcstation 2
> that I have. It seems to be working great. I now need a FORTRAN
> compiler for that machine. Is there a simple way to get a
> FORTRAN compiler installed without having to reMAKE gcc before
> MAKEing g77? I'm worried that I would break gcc (or some software
> that relies on it) in the process. As a point of reference: I'm
> new to both LINUX and RPM, but not UNIX.
RedHat ship egcs - look for the egcs-g77 package or similar. There is
also the f2c Fortran to C converter and fort77, which makes it look
like a compiler. Both are avalible as RPMs and can be installed using
the standard tools.
egcs builds easily from source, so if you prefer to do that you could.
In general, there's no requirement to use the packaging systems of the
distributions and Linux looks much like any other Unix to most
software.
--
Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness)
http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/
EUFS http://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/
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From: Andrae Behrens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: gcc/ld options ?
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 18:04:38 +0100
Hello group,
how can I force "ld" or via -Xlinker ... "gcc" directly to produce
an error linking a shared library with unresolved symbols ?
On other OS:
- Sparc SunOS: no switch necessary
- Alpha OSF1 : -Xlinker -error_unresolved
- Intel BC5.0: no switch necessary
I thank for your help,
Andrae
--
http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/ftp-home/pub/Local/simulation/poses++/www
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D-09120 Chemnitz (Germany)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Larry)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 8 Jan 1999 21:28:50 GMT
On Fri, 08 Jan 1999 07:24:11 -0800, Steven C. Den Beste <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>On 08 Jan 1999 16:04:59 +0100, David Kastrup graced us with this wisdom:
>
>>"Netnerd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>> David Kastrup wrote in message ...
>>> >"Netnerd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>> >
>>> >> The latest consumer poll shows that 81 percent of consumers think
>>> >> Microsoft has been good for consumers, and 52 percent think the case
>>> >> was brought to help Microsoft's rivals.
>>> >
>>> >Microsoft is not under accusation because of being bad to customers,
>>> >but because of illegal means for fighting competition. And of course
>>> >the case was brought to help Microsoft's rivals. They are the damaged
>>> >party of the alleged business practices. Of course it helps them if
>>> >Microsoft is restricted to fighting them by legal means.
>>>
>>> The US antitrust laws are designed to protect consumers, not competitors.
>>> Has the consumer been harmed? Of course not.
>>
>>Why then is the consumer putting up with an operating system that
>>crashes several orders of magnitudes more than other offers?
>
>Perhaps because they're not? Perhaps because the rumor about instability is
>an urban legend based on anecdotal evidence, and not grounded on anything
>statistically valid?
Horse shit!
I don't know anyone personally that uses windows that doesn't complain
of this problem. in fact i finally had to remove winblows from my wifes
computer because it locked up so often.
I have had the built in screen saver lock up machines at work just
by activating themselves when the machines were left idle.
Windows is the most unstable operating system on the market, and no amount
of denying this fact can make it not so.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: copying memory addresses for a process
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 17:24:39 GMT
Hi, I am trying to save the state of a process into memory before, for
example, line 17 in the program, then go ahead and execute the next line of
code (line 17 in this case) in the process, then revert back to the saved
state and continue execution with line 17 again. Does this make sense? I
have tried to memcopy the process space from &etext to sbrk(0), and then to
restore by memcopying back into &etext to sbrk(0) without much success. Is
there a way to do this? Is this even a good way to solve the above problem?
I also am having trouble finding a way to find the addresses properly for the
stack. I know the esp register holds the top of the stack, but what about
the bottom? Setjmp will move back the point of execution but just restores
some registers. I think this is like checkpointing but I need to save into
memory, not onto a disk. If there is a way to do this with gdb, I'd like to
know, also. I am running redhat linux 5.2 on a Pentium. Any and all help
will be greatly appreciated. I've been stuggling with this for months for my
thesis.
Thanks,
Rebecca Keller
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From: ekihn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Benchmarks for Linux multi-processor.
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 22:40:39 -0700
Frankie,
Thanks for a very through answer. You raise some interesting points.
Frankie East wrote:
>
> eak wrote:
>
> > Greetings,
> >
> > I have my eye on a new Linux server to join my ever growing cluster.
> > I'm looking at the VArStation XMP from VA Research among others and
> > wondered if anybody has done any performance comparisons?
> >
> > Specifically the .5 -1 -2 Mb Cache upgrades with the Xeon processor how
> > much of a performance difference does it make under Linux?
> > Also using the included RH 5.2 does the second processor really come
> > into play ? What if you self upgrade to the 2.1.x kernel?
> >
> > This box is destined for scientific number crunching, database
> > functions, and some graphics. So performance definitely is appreciated,
> > the question is whether
> > it's worth 5K to jump from .5 to 1 Mb cache?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Eric A. Kihn
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Hi Eric,
> Is your cluster a "cluster" or do you mean your "collection?" I ask
> because for serious number crunching we use PVM on a Beowulf cluster.
I must admit it is getting hard to tell these days but I guess I mean
collection. I currently have
3 233 Mhz boxes that act as data servers to three 350 Mhz boxes which
have loads of RAM and act as the calculation
servers. The main server is running a CORBA ORB and the boxes each make
various functions of available through it.
I also run a home brew "Global Data Server" which lets me run SQL
queries and retrieval through a single point.
I've loked briefly at Beowulf and decided it was to complex for my
needs. Was I mistaken? Hows your cluster
perform when crunching serious numbers?
> 1mb cache pentium pros. The cache issue depends on the calculations you
> specifically intend to do and your data set sizes.
The meat of our calculations lie in Spherical Harmonic Analysis.
Typically this it ~ 50 Gb total
data for a run.
>
> My experience with SMP on Red Hat 5.2 is nil, but I did it on 5.0.
> Both install a single processor kernel and require a kernel recompile
> (after editing the makefile to uncomment the SMP declaration).
> Then my results (using both the Byte benchmark code as well as timing a
> series of 1000 fast fourier transforms) were not stellar. The SMP kernel
> is better at increasing total throughput between processes than at
> increasing specific throughput as in the FFT calculation itself. It *did*
> show some speedup, just not alot.
> As far as the 2.1.x kernel, I don't know, if the SMP has been significantly
> improved you may want to do it. But if not then what's the difference?
The rumor I've heard is that the 2.2 kernel will make multi-processor
fly. I'm a numbers man by trade and so was hoping to see some real data
on this. I guess it may come later.
>Our results were greatly
> improved by the addition of Portland Group compilers to that box. (we got
> a kit that has C/C++/HPF, and a graphic analysis tool for just under 700
> bucks, these are the same Portland compilers used on our Crays which makes
> moving code around simple).
That's the second plug I've gotten for the Portlan Group. Looks like
they'll be getting a K
or so of my software budget :).
>
>
> Now, back to cache... cache hits are a source of the most significant
> speedup you can get in your computer next to clock speed. They are oders
> of magnitude better than memory fetches.
Still curious why Intel wants so much for .5 Mb cache. I'll have to get
more serious about my analysis of our needs. It will be hard to by .5 Mb
of cache instead of Gb's of RAM if the time comes though :).
I liked your cache discussion because it pointsout that no hardware
makes up for bad programming.
>
> So, so far we've covered graphics and scientific computing. Now as for
> databases I am no expert. But since you have a situation where the speeds
> are still differing by orders of magnitude (cache hit versus memory fetch
> versus RAID cache fetch versus disk medium access) I'd say the same...
> cache is golden, especially if you have a set of data you often query.
The data I'm working with is time series oriented. Which means I load a
lot of stations for a time step,
run the model, then dump the data selom to be heard from again. Of
course in the post analysis we run Vis software
a great deal.
>
> BTW: I've done work for the Department of Commerce in the Emerging
> Technologies Center (ETC lab)at USPTO (and I believe NOAA is one of the
> four parts of DOC). Is this for NOAA?
Yep I'm a fed but try not to hold that against me. I work for the DOC-
NOAA- National Geophysical Data Center - Solar Terrestrial Physics
division.
Eric Kihn
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Physics division
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Phelps)
Subject: Re: man pages and Texinfo
Date: 9 Jan 1999 05:56:39 GMT
Gary Momarison wrote:
> What's really maddening is when you use the "info" program and IT
> just displays a regular man page with te same statement you quoted.
If you lament how Texinfo is isolated from the much more common man
pages and how info is hard to navigate and loses much of the formatting
of the printed version, check out TkMan. Screen dumps, documentation,
source code at http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~phelps/tcltk/
Tom
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