Linux-Misc Digest #526, Volume #26 Mon, 11 Dec 00 23:13:04 EST
Contents:
Re: DIAMOND:STEALTH III 540, 32MB, AGP, SAVAGE4 CHIPSET (John Hanson)
Re: The best SQL server ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: The best SQL server ("WME")
Re: Patch too big for floppy (Prasanth A. Kumar)
Re: Kernel sees only part of memory (E J)
Star Office installation Q. (Vladimir Florinski)
Re: Can't set video refresh! (David Efflandt)
Re: LILO-Problem after adding a HD ("Patrick Bartek")
Re: Best CD-ROM Backup & Recovery System (E J)
Re: cant get apache to listen in RH7 (David Efflandt)
vga=extended in lilo.conf quit working after new kernel (Jeff Pierce)
Re: amd k6 - signal 11 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: anyone got recommendations for laptops? (dixon)
After upgrade linuxconf, the xserver can't start. (Carfield Yim)
How do i determine Redhat version? ("Patrick McCann")
Re: ramdisk size (David Efflandt)
Re: vga=extended in lilo.conf quit working after new kernel (Dances With Crows)
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From: John Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: DIAMOND:STEALTH III 540, 32MB, AGP, SAVAGE4 CHIPSET
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 02:17:30 GMT
On Sun, 10 Dec 2000 22:49:13 -0700, "John Nielsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
>>I am using the card without any problems. FreeBSD 4.1.1 and XFree86
>>3.somethingorother.
>>
Thanks for the feedback. I just ordered it.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: The best SQL server
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 02:21:22 GMT
>>>>> "WME" == WME <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Define "better" first. MySQL is optimized for the case where most
>> queries are just SELECTing and not UPDATE or INSERTing. MySQL is
>> supposed to be faster in general than other database engines, but
>> that may not be as true as it was. Postgres has transactions,
>> which are beta in MySQL. There was an article on Slashdot recently
>> that discussed the question of whether Postgres or MySQL was
>> better, and it generated a whole lot of flamage.
WME> My question should've been, why is MySQL more popular? By the
WME> way, does MySQL have a GUI (an MS-SQL style or so)?
MySQL is probably more popular because:
a) It historically _was_ faster than PostgreSQL; whether that's true
now is debatable, but certainly was true in the past;
b) It may still be faster for the special case of direct queries to
specific table entries.
c) Programmers used to the xBase programming model that are unaware
that SQL is a set-oriented relational language may happen to not
use any of the functionality that would allow PostgreSQL to
"shine."
d) It was probably easier to configure than PostgreSQL.
These all represent somewhat lame excuses; that doesn't prevent them
from having being true or effective, and does not prevent them from
having been made false due to recent recounts in Florida :-).
As for "GUI tools," you probably should look at
<http://www.mysql.com/>, and particularly at
<http://www.mysql.com/downloads/gui-clients.html> and
<http://www.mysql.com/downloads/contrib.html>
--
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<http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/rdbms.html>
"Bother," said Pooh as he struggled with sendmail.cf.
"It never does quite what I want."
"I wish Christopher Robin were here.".
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From: "WME" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The best SQL server
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 02:21:23 GMT
I wasn't talking about MySQL in particular. I have a problem configuring my
DFE-530TX (D-Link) network card, all the suggestions are referring to
redhat.
>
> Eh? I favour slackware. I can't stand redhat. Where do you get your
> info from? Slackware is a robust, elegant, efficient distro. Redhat is
> a mass of bugs and messups and complicated obscurantist voodoo.
>
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Subject: Re: Patch too big for floppy
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Prasanth A. Kumar)
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 02:24:48 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Michael Collins ()) writes:
> Linux 2.2.18 is around 2.5 megs. What's up with
> that? Every other kernel patch has fit on a floppy.
>
> I just installed a new distro and I want to bring
> the kernel current but I have no net connection for this
> box.
>
> What is a person to do without being able to patch the
> kernel with floppies? Don't patches typically try to stay
> under 1.4megs?
>
> --Chris
Simplest thing to do would be to 'split' the patch into two pieces,
copy it over, then 'cat' the two pieces together.
--
Prasanth Kumar
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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Kernel sees only part of memory
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 02:38:38 GMT
Exchange your memory and get linux compatible memory. Just kidding :)
put append="mem=256M" in your /etc/lilo.conf and execute lilo.
$ su -
password: <secret>
# cp /etc/lilo.conf /etc/lilo.conf.bak # just in case you screw up.
# vi /etc/lilo.conf # use your editor to modify lilo.conf
# this is an example of lilo.conf
boot=/dev/hda3
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
prompt
timeout=50
message=/boot/message
linear
default=dos
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.16-22
label=linux
read-only
# here is the append line to add
append="mem=256M"
root=/dev/hda4
other=/dev/hda1
label=dos
# /sbin/lilo
# reboot # cross your fingers and 256M will be used.
Peter Linde wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> I am running RH Linux 7.0 on an HP Kayak, which has
> 2x733 Mhz processors and 256 Mb of memory. I also run Windows 2000
> from a separate disk. While booting Linux, the kernel reports and uses
> only 64 Mb of
> memory. Under Windows the entire memory is seen and used.
>
> Any hints?
>
> Peter Linde
> Lund Observatory
> Sweden
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From: Vladimir Florinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Star Office installation Q.
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 19:27:54 -0700
I just downloaded SO 5.2 from Sun. This comes in 10 files, plus 2 additional
files with some extras. Noting this is clearly a multi-part archive, I thought I
could just run the first file, the only one with the ELF header, and it'll
extract everything for me. No luck: 'Text file busy'. Ok, so it's writing over
itself (maybe a sensible thing to do for a self-extractor), but before it's even
executed? ldd gives the same result.
I then turned to plain old unzip. This should do the trick...no! Multi-part
archives not supported. I suppose I could concatenate the files and process them
with zip, but there should be a better solution. People seem to be able to
install without problems. Any ideas?
--
Vladimir
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: Can't set video refresh!
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 02:42:33 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Phil R Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I must have a loadstone under my cubicle, because 85Hz refresh rate flickers
>horribly. Fortunately I have a Gateway vx700 monitor, which (along with my
>ATI card) does 100Hz @ 1024x768.
>
>Unfortunately, I can't get this setting in mandrake. My monitor and card
>are detected correctly. XF86Config-4 has the correct ranges for vertical
>and horizontal refresh rates. I ran xf86config by hand and it produced the
>same output that is already in XF86Config-4, no additional parameters for
>specific refresh rates were evident. when I startx, however, my monitor
>reports it is running at 85Hz.
>
>How can I force this thing to do 100Hz @ 1024x768?
Here's a thought. We had a 17" CTX monitor at work that I thought was
defective because it was flickering. When I was going to take it in to
exchange it, I removed the digital clock that was sitting on top of it and
the flicker suddenly stopped. See if you have anything with a transformer
anywhere near or under your monitor.
I run Mandrake 7.0 KDE with a 17" Panasonic set for HorizSync 30-70,
VertRefresh 50-180 and I don't notice any flicker 1024x768 @ 70 Hz
vertical refresh. I remember RedHat running it at 100 Hz once, but I
thought that would be harder on it and unnecessary.
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From: "Patrick Bartek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 11 Dec 2000 17:32:47 +0800
Subject: Re: LILO-Problem after adding a HD
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware
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> Hey guys,
>
> I have a running dual-boot box. Windoze 98 on hda1, hda2 and hdb for
> some Linux-"folders". SuSe Linux 7.0 is on sda1.
> My CD-Rom is the hdd.
>
> Now I would like a Samsung 6 GB drive to the system. (Secondary Master).
>
> But whenever I try to connect it into the system LILO fails to start
> ("LI"). When I unplug the drive everything work fine.
> /etc/fstab doesn�t contain the hdd (but that shouldn�t matter for LILO
> (?))
> I tried to reinstall LILO to solve the problem, I changed the HD�s but
> to no avail.
> I would be glad if someone could point me into the right direction.
> (The SuSE-manual and the manualpages didn�t help me much)
> If you need more specific information, please let me know.
You may have the jumper on the CD and the Samsung HD both set for
Master. Or do you have one of those "twisted pair" cables that sets
Master and Slave?
You may also have to add a line to /etc/fstab for the CD to mount on
boot. I initially didn't have the CD mount on boot on my system, and
this caused problems with other drives and partitions, even though
they were in /etc/fstab. I also couldn't mount the CD manually. Even
editing fstab and adding the CD didn't help. I finally had to
erase and completely reinstall Linux to solve the problem. Never
was able to discover why the problem existed in the first place.
--
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NoLife Polymath Group
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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Best CD-ROM Backup & Recovery System
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 02:50:14 GMT
I like tar and gzip because it simple and reliable and I understand it.
I have intentionally blown away and recovered my linux system using this
method.
Shawn Smith wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I am curious which back up & recovery system that writes to cd-roms
> people have found to be the best and why.
>
> --
> Take Care,
> Shawn Smith
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: cant get apache to listen in RH7
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 02:53:53 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 12 Dec 2000, webqueen, queen of the web <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Oddly enough, if I point the localhost broswer to
>
> http://localhost:8080
>
>the apache default page pops up, but
>
> http://localhost
>
>says page not found.. I doublechecked- httpd.conf is listening on port
>8080.
>
>Is there something else that could cause httpd to listen on a different
>port?
I don't understand your question. You configure it to listen to port 8080
and then act surprised that it only listens on port 8080.
If you do not specify any port, it listens on default port 80. If you set
it for any other port(s), it only listens to the specified port(s), and
you have to specify the port in the URL. Sounds perfectly normal to me.
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Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 16:38:21 -0500
From: Jeff Pierce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: vga=extended in lilo.conf quit working after new kernel
I installed Slackware 7.1 with no problems on a new system adn
vga=extended in lilo.conf booting /vmlinuz worked fine as always.
However, when I built a new kernel an put it's entry in lilo.conf
vga=extended had no effect. Screen stayed in 25 line mode after loading
the new kernel. It never switched to 50 line mode.
Booted back to the /vmlinuz and got my 50 lines.
Hat in a new kernel could cause this?
Is there a way to switch to 50 line mode AFTER boot from the command
line?
--
Jeff Pierce, wd4nmq
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://pages.preferred.com/~piercej
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: amd k6 - signal 11
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 10:32:06 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: Well, here's what I did it get the machine to work.
: 1. I lowered the cpu mhz from 233 to 200.
: 2. I lowered the cpu voltage from 3.3 to 3.2.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: It runs great now...I've compiled the kernel, gcc, glibc and no more
: signal 11s.
*That* was you problem! The AMD K6II-233 is specified to run on
3.2 Volts! It doesn't run with 3.3 Volts!
You should be able to raise the frequenzy back to 233 with no
Problems. On my MOBO this is 66x3.5.
Anyway, good cooling is important with the K6.
And don't even think about Overclocking. :-)
Regards,
Friedhelm
--
Microsoft is NOT the answer. Microsoft is the Question.
The answer is: "NO!"
===================================================================
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phone + fax: +49-40-5236562 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: dixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: anyone got recommendations for laptops?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 03:22:19 GMT
On Mon, 11 Dec 2000 13:13:23 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>hi
>
>i'm currently thinkning of getting a laptop which i intend to install
>linux on (make is either going to be a sony viao or a panasonic laptop
>since i've heard some good reviews, albiet not 'linux' based reviews)
>and am wondering if anyone out there has any strong
>recommendations/dont-touch-with-12foot-pole.
>
>thanks
>P
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.
Try this:
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Laptop-HOWTO.html
There are a large volume of helpful how-to's on linuxdoc.org....
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Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 11:38:56 +0500
From: Carfield Yim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: After upgrade linuxconf, the xserver can't start.
Sorry for cross-post, but it is a really urgent message for me.
At sunday, I know that there is version 1.23 of linuxconf avaliable at
freshmeat, so I download it and upgrade the one of my mandrake.
During the upgrade, the system report there is confilct of my
pppoe-linuxconf module, but I ignore it as it just a update and
pppoe-linuxconf module is not important to me.
After upgrade, there are some error of my startup message, so I remove
the pppoe-linuxconf module. After remove the module and restart, the
error message persist and my xserver can't start.
The log of error message seen like a script, I don't remember what
exactly it is, but it contain the following lines:
/sbin/clock -s --localtime
/sbin/telinit -o
The reason of can't start xserver is xfs can't start so it can't load
the font, I have try to alter XF86config fontpath but it don't work. And
I have try the restart xfs but it reply:
xfs is die but lock by subsys.
Other than xfs, I notice that mcserv and adsl-start script don't work.
And seen to me that the system don't start my network card correctly, as
I can't connect to internet and the system can't shutdown my network
card when it shutdown.
Do anyone have idea that how to fix it?? Do I need to uninstall linuxconf??
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From: "Patrick McCann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How do i determine Redhat version?
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 15:13:04 -0800
Hi,
I would like to know how I can find out what version of Linux I'm running. I
know that it is Redhat but I don't know the version i.e 6.0.
Thanks for any help.
Pat
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: ramdisk size
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 03:47:15 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 11 Dec 2000 19:36:08 GMT, Timo Benk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi
>
>On Mon, 11 Dec 2000 18:44:26 GMT, Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Timo Benk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> As of kernel v1.3.48, the RAM disk driver was substantially changed.
>>> I have read that, too, but what is the meaning of that?
>>> Let's say i have got a ramdisk /dev/ram0. Now I create a filesystem on it:
>>> mke2fs /dev/ram0
>>> How can the size grow dynamically when there is a fs on it ???
>>> The fs must grow too.
>>
>>No. The FS is mostly the meta info. The inodes and the inode tables. The
>>blocks backing those inodes may exist (or not) in various senses.
>
>Now I'm really confused. How can I use such a ramdisk and change ( either by
>myself or let it be done by the kernel ) the size of this ramdisk. I see
>only two ways to do that:
>
>1. mke2fs /dev/ram0
> mount /dev/ram0 /mnt
> cp something /mnt
>problem: how to change the size of the ramdisk if i need more space. I'm
>pretty sure that this won't work dynamically.
>
>2. dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/tempfs.img
> mke2fs /tmp/tempfs.img
> mount /tmp/tempfs.img /mnt
> cp something /mnt
> umount /mnt
> dd if=/tmp/tempfs.img of=/dev/ram0
>
>I think Louis meant that in his posting talking about using an image.
>That way I can imagine that the kernel will grow the ramdisk to
>the needed size, but I tried it and it doesn't work.
>
>So is that my fault or is it just impossible to change the ramdisk size
>without rebooting or reloading the ramdisk module?
The ramdisk can automatically resize if you copy an image to it, but if
you put a filesystem on it I believe you have to specify the size of the
filesystem. I just dynamically resized it and it worked without rebooting
or manually reloading any modules.
Here is before and after:
/dev/ram 2.0M 512k 1.5M 25% /home/efflandt/seti-ram
/dev/ram 3.9M 512k 3.4M 13% /home/efflandt/seti-ram
I initially created it in /etc/rc.d/rc.local and resized it by simply
copy and pasting each line to the prompt, but changing 2048 to 4096:
# set up ramdisk for setiathome
/bin/dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ram bs=1k count=2048
/sbin/mke2fs -vm0 /dev/ram 2048
/bin/mount -t ext2 /dev/ram /home/efflandt/seti-ram
Then I copied the files to it, and changed permissions and ownership.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: vga=extended in lilo.conf quit working after new kernel
Date: 12 Dec 2000 03:49:48 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 11 Dec 2000 16:38:21 -0500, Jeff Pierce staggered into
the Black Sun and said:
>I installed Slackware 7.1 with no problems on a new system adn
>vga=extended in lilo.conf booting /vmlinuz worked fine as always.
>However, when I built a new kernel an put it's entry in lilo.conf
>vga=extended had no effect. Screen stayed in 25 line mode after loading
>the new kernel. It never switched to 50 line mode.
>
>Booted back to the /vmlinuz and got my 50 lines.
>
>Hat in a new kernel could cause this?
>Is there a way to switch to 50 line mode AFTER boot from the command
>line?
If your new kernel doesn't have support for "Video Mode Selection
Support" compiled in, then it won't recognize any options for the vga=
line and will default to 80x24. This option cannot be configured as a
module and must be built into the kernel AFAICT, so you have to
recompile. The console video mode is set very early on in the boot
process, before the kernel switches the processor into protected mode on
an i386 system. Since Linux doesn't do real mode, there is no good way
to switch the console once it's set at boot time. The SVGATextMode
utilities used to provide a way of doing this, but I think they've been
unmaintained for a while and are unsupported now. Me, I like an 800x600
framebuffer for the console--100x37 text and the bootup penguin logo!
'Course I do most user stuff from X and save the console for tasks that
require root....
--
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Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
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