Linux-Misc Digest #546, Volume #18 Sun, 10 Jan 99 09:13:20 EST
Contents:
Cookies and getting complete web pages (Kim Carter)
Re: CDR software, java and graphic - help wanted (Sam E. Trenholme)
Re: patition error (John Thompson)
Re: Downloading large files, Re: good office package for linux (Bev)
Re: Driver for Win to access Linux (Jon Barnett)
Re: Why I choose HP-UX over Linux (citizen)
Re: Why I choose HP-UX over Linux (citizen)
Re: Help connecting to the Net using Minicom with RedHat (David Efflandt)
Re: Install kxicq => no QT 1.4X found, but I've installed it !!! (Seth Rothberg)
Re: CONCLUSIVE PROOF: Jesus *is* King of the Jews ! ! ! (NRus7810)
mandrake (Rick Knebel)
Need programming help (Mike)
Re: Linux Commands (Jerry Lynn Kreps)
Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ... (Jerry Lynn Kreps)
Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ... (Jerry Lynn Kreps)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kim Carter)
Subject: Cookies and getting complete web pages
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 12:34:16 +0000
What I am attempting to do is retrieve one or more web pages, access to
which is controlled by 'cookies'. Is there a program which operates like
say wget which can do this?
Alternatively is there a browser that understands cookies and has a 'Save'
which stores the whole page ie including graphics etc in a self consistent
structure?
TIA
Kim
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sam E. Trenholme)
Subject: Re: CDR software, java and graphic - help wanted
Date: 8 Jan 1999 16:33:57 -0800
If you are insterested in Linux software, go to the following web pages:
http://freshmeat.net
http://www.linux.org
Both sites have searchable indexes of Linux applications.
>I want to know what CDR-software there are for Linux - and what hardware
>that's supported.
There is xcdroast (or is it called cdroast). This has been reported to
work well, although I have not tried it.
>A Javadeveloping software with GUI for Linux - is there such a program?
>Where can I get it?
There is the JDK:
http://www.blackdown.org
(I remember the URL 'cause I once got in a flame war with the maintainer
of the page over how I was treated in IRC)
IBM also has Linux Java software available on the alphaworks web page.
http://www.alphaworks.ibm.com
>What is the best graphical drawing and editing programs for Homepage
>production?
My answer is this: If you need a graphical program to develop web pages,
Linux may not be for you. Linux is, by and large, made by programmers for
programmers. I find that the vi editor, in conjunction with the right
perl script, works well for designing web pages, and creates much cleaner
HTML than programs like Page Mill.
There is effort being done to improve this state of affairs, and you may
be happy with the HTML editing abilities of Netscape or Word Perfect, but
Linux is traditionally more for the type of people who hand-edit HTML.
- Sam (Did I mention all of the software I have listed is free for
personal use?)
--
Email address here: http://www.samiam.org/ssi/mailme.shtml
Music I write here: http://www.mp3.com/sam http://www.samiam.org/mp3
Mp3 reviews here: http://www.samiam.org/music
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Thompson)
Subject: Re: patition error
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 04:25:48 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (BoYz)
writes:
>I have a problem with my HD after installing Redhat 5.0 and Win98
>I use Disk Druid that come with my Redhat 5.0 to create ext2 file system.
>I select install LILO in the MBR of primary drive. Everything seem to be
>OK. After I reboot, I can reach the screen LILO: and can choose which OS
>I want to boot. When I choose Win98 and try to use partition magic. It
>said " Logical Drive chain extends toward start of drive " I just really
>don't know what does it mean. right now, I can't use my partition magic
>or even my fdisk to change my partition anymore.
My experience with Disk Druid is that it tends to make partition
tables that other partition utilities don't much care for. If
you have Partition Magic you may want to rebuild your partitions
from scratch using that instead of Disk Druid. I used PM v3 to
create the partitions for my first linux installation (although
since it couldn't format ext2 I had to use linux fdisk and
mkfs to do the real work. I used PM v4 for my new machine and
the ext2 partitions it created seem to be fine so far...
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Bev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Downloading large files, Re: good office package for linux
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 19:03:01 -0800
Cameron Spitzer wrote:
> When I fetch a large file, I just copy it to my ISP shell account
> first. Then split(1) it into 2 MB chunks and download those.
> Reassemble with cat(1). Is reget widely supported now? That would
> be easier.
Your ISP will let you put a 54-meg file on their system? Pretty damn
generous. Try ncftp, which allows reget. Nice package.
--
Cheers,
Bev
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Organized people will never know the sheer joyous ecstasy of finding
something that was believed to have been irretrievably lost.
-- D. Stern
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon Barnett)
Subject: Re: Driver for Win to access Linux
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 14:21:03 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>On Sun, 10 Jan 1999 01:48:11 +0100,
>Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>I am looking for a driver either for Win 95 or for Win NT 4 that
>>gives me access to Linux ext2fs filesystems. Hints on shareware or
>>commercials are highly appreciated
>
>'fsdext2' allows Win95 to mount ext2 partitions read-only. However, note
>that Windows is totally unaware of file permissions, so it can see
>everything, including /etc/passwd and /etc/ppp/pap-secrets.
>
>The website in the Netherlands must have moved, so I will email it to you
>separately (83K).
Depending on your requirements, you may want to use samba - this allows
contents on unix disks to be seen as network shares by Win95/Win98/WinNT. Go
to http://www.samba.org/ to find your nearest mirror. You have the same type
as controls for sharing as per your Windows platform (anything from group
read/write to read-only). You can also restrict access based on user. It is
freeware. Go to the site to learn more about capabilities and limitations.
JonB.
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From: citizen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why I choose HP-UX over Linux
Date: 10 Jan 1999 04:15:54 +0800
Kim G. S. OEyhus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The main reason is the Mirror-UX utility available as an extension of the
> > LVM program. The standard LVM allows one to manage disks and logical
> > volumes very easily, but Mirror-UX let's one mirror disks. Have 2 disks in
> > the volume group, mirrored, one crashes and you don't even notice it. If
> > that is not impressive, I don't know what is. Make them both bootable. I
> > don't know anything about Linux but from what I heard an analogous program
> > that does not exist. Under Linux, the hard drive crashes, and you lose all
> > your data unless it is backed up.
> There are raid solutions for Linux. I could write software to do
> a similar thing myself, by simply dumping one disk to another one on
> shutdown.
Well, you write whatever you want. The fact is that the average Linux
user does not have that solution available and you completely failed
to refute that point. Mirrored drives is not "dumping data from one
disk to another on shutdown". It is a lot more than that.
> > LVM, even without optional mirroring, makes filesystem management piece of
> > cake. If you want to decrease or increase a logical volume such as /usr,
> > /opt, /var/, /stand, /tmp/, /var/adm/crash, just bring the box to single
> > user mode, unmount it, run lvextend or lvreduce and and boot back up to
> > multi. There is even a way to do it in multi-user mode. How does one do
> > that in Linux? Well, one can't, since everything is under "/". Fill up
> > your /tmp and everything fills up. To decrease a logical volume, one has to
> > rebuild the machine.
> There are systems for Linux that partition the file system out to
> several disks, without that unnecessary complexity of logical volumes.
Complexity? LVM is EASY compared to the Linux alternative. One can increase
and decrease logical volumes dynamically, in multi-user mode. If you
have to change a partition on a Linux box, you have to rebuild the entire
machine.
> Sun and Digital have similar systems. Compared to these, LVM is an
> obfuscated horror.
What "systems"? Solaris, AIX and HP-UX all have LVM, in fact AIX is
the one that came up with it and others copied. It is a much
better way to manager partitions than the conventional way.
While commands may be slightly different for different systems,
the methodology and the principles are the same.
LVM is a lot more than disk partitioning. With the optional Mirror-UX,
it offers RAID 1 or RAID whatever.
> Besides, unless things have changed recently,
> the probability of messing things up with LVM is very high.
Clearly, this comment is not inspired by profound knowledge of the LVM.
I used it many, many times and it never failed if I did my part right.
It takes some time to get used to, but once the user understands it,
it is very easy.
> I remember when I discovered that lvextend extended the file system with
> another type of file system. The result was a volume partially hfs and
> logged filesystem. lvreduce never worked.
You have to run it in single user mode, unless you have fsadmin, which
will resize them dynamically when the machine is up.
> The menudriven system botched
> a volume, forcing me to use command line instead, which actually worked
> sometimes.
Menu driven? I don't know what you are talking about. I never used any
"menu driven" system. I type commands at the prompt, that's the Unix
way. perhaps you mean SAM?
> > Software management with SD-UX. swlist, swremove. Patches. I am not aware
> > of a Linux program that does software management as well.
> The limits of your knowledge is quite apparent, and it is nice of you
This is so clearly unprofessinal of you that I think it even invalidates
your whole message.
> to admit so. Anyway, I have never had to patch a Linux system, as they
> have been stable and consistent. Hp-ux has been terribly inconsistent
> in my experience. Linux has several systems for patching. What is
> really nice, is that one can patch the source code of the kernel,
> an impossibility in hp-ux.
OK, I realize this.
I myself am migrating to Redhat 5.2 solution, but probably for
different reasons.
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From: citizen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why I choose HP-UX over Linux
Date: 10 Jan 1999 04:18:23 +0800
Kim G. S. OEyhus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sure. Valid reasons for running hp-ux are:
> The expensive software will not run on anything better or cheaper.
> You have a lot of money to burn.
> You get a lot of money to do it.
> It is company religion. (Also referred to as "policy")
> You are somewhat, but not very, masochistic.
OK, you made your point.
I have actually decided to upgrade to a Redhat 5.2 machine.
I like the concept behind Linux and FreeBSD.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: Help connecting to the Net using Minicom with RedHat
Date: 10 Jan 1999 13:36:16 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 9 Jan 1999 15:51:10 -0800, Paul Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have been having problems connecting my Redhat 5.2 workstation to the
>Internet.
>
>I am using Minicom and the following happens:
>
>I dial in with ATDT number.
>
>The connection with my ISP is acknowledged and I get a prompt asking me for
>my login and password.
>
>The ISP then responds with my IP address indicating that the connection was
>successful.
>
>I then get the prompt, Protocol:
>
>I enter PPP
>
>After this a whole bunch of wierd symbols appears. When I try to access the
>Net,none of my Internet programs (FTP, Netscape recognise any of the URLs
>and the connection terminates itself after a couple of minutes)
The weird characters are PPP starting on the other end, but you don't
mention starting it on your end.
If you 'startx' as root, you will find an icon in the control panel for
network configuration. All you have to do is set up a PPP connection and
you won't even need minicom. Try PAP first without any script. If that
does not work, then make one with PAP unchecked and edit the resulting
script to include your "Protocol:" and "PPP" expect/response strings.
--
David Efflandt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.xnet.com/~efflandt/
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From: Seth Rothberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.x,linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Install kxicq => no QT 1.4X found, but I've installed it !!!
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 08:37:35 -0500
On Sun, 10 Jan 1999, Onion Ok wrote:
>I have installed KDE, therfore I needed QT-libraries, so I installed Qt
>version 1.40.
>Now I want to install a icq klone, I tired two programmes, one of them
>is kxicq, when I do " ./configure"
>they both say at the end: "No QT libraries version 1.40 or higher
>installed, check your installation".
>
>What is the problem cause QT is installed, cause otherwise I wouldn't be
>able to run KDE...
>Can someone help me please?
>
>Thank you very much,
This seems to be a general problem with some kde apps. You can get around it by
telling configure where you've installed qt. For example:
./configure --with-qt-dir=/usr/local/qt
Hope this helps.
Seth
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NRus7810)
Crossposted-To:
rec.music.hip-hop,rec.models.rc.air,rec.woodworking,rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang,rec.sport.soccer,rec.travel.europe,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg,comp.software.year-2000,alt.prophecies.nostradamus,alt.prophecies.cayce
Subject: Re: CONCLUSIVE PROOF: Jesus *is* King of the Jews ! ! !
Date: 10 Jan 1999 13:50:46 GMT
Why in the world would you ever publish information like this in our hobby
enthusiasts only/rc flyers newsgroup? I doubt that there is one soul who
thinks you have any sanity or, have offered anything even somewhat related to
what we do for a wholesome, clean, fun hobby! Norm (RedLead1)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rick Knebel)
Subject: mandrake
Date: 10 Jan 1999 13:49:18 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
I just read about another disrto of linux called Mandrake.
It is RedHat 5.2 with kde integrated into it.
Anyone try this yet?
Thanks
Rick
--
Rick Knebel
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike)
Subject: Need programming help
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 13:10:33 GMT
Hello,
I'm fairly new to the Linux/Unix programming environment and I could
sure use some help.
I'm in the middle of a project which entails porting a program from
AIX to Linux. I have finally go it to compile but the binary is
hanging on a system function call and I am stuck.
Here is a simplified version of the code:
#include <stdio.h>
#include <unistd.h>
void main(void)
{
FILE *modem;
int file_desc,i,eflag;
char file_string[25] = "/dev/cua1";
char buff[20],c;
if ((modem = fopen(file_string,"r")) == NULL)
{
printf("can't open modem\n");
exit(1);
}
file_desc = fileno(modem);
printf("the file desc is %d\n", file_desc);
i = read(file_desc, buff, 1);
fclose(modem);
exit(0);
}
As you can see I am trying to get a string from a modem. The program
is getting a valid file descriptor, but it just hangs in the
i = read(file_desc, buf,1)
statement. I have zero experience with modems(I'm learning on the fly
unfortunatly) and I would sure appreciate any help or suggestions.
I'm compiling this on RedHat 5.0, it was originally done for AIX
version 3.2 (I think)
Thanks,
Mike
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Jerry Lynn Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Commands
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 07:52:17 -0600
Gary Momarison wrote:
>
> "RFSP" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Hi!
> >
> > Where can I find a site or a book with all linux commands.
>
> You can't; there's no such thing. But try these:
There isn't?
Well, setting on the desk next to me is a "pseudo" book, then. ;->
IT is titled "Linux Complete Command Reference" from Sams publishing
ISBN: 0-672-31104-6
BTW, "Linux The Complete Reference" is another book, published by Linux
System Labs (lsl.com), no ISBN, that includes essentially the Linux
Documenation Project:
Part I - Linux Installation and Getting Start Guide 4.1 by Matt Welsh
Part II - Linux System Administrator's Guide 0.6
Part III - The Linux Network Administrator's Guide 1.0
Part's IV to LIV a ton of HOW-TO's
These two should adorn the bookshelf in every throne room!
Jerry
>
> http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/
> http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/learning-linux.html
> http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/general-docs.html
> http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/shells.html
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From: Jerry Lynn Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ...
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 08:06:39 -0600
Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote:
>
> Doesn't that copy of M$ OutLook Express you're running have a spell and
> grammar checker?
> Oh yes, one other thing: you should seek treatment for that very bad
> case of trash mouth that afflicts you.
> It makes you appear to a person with a extremely limited vocabulary.
> Put another way: in movies with bad scripts and bad acting the producer
> always tries to cover the weaknesses with loud or offensive music.
>
Test: Omni, can you find the grammatical error in that post?
> Omni� wrote:
<snip>
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From: Jerry Lynn Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ...
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 08:04:13 -0600
Doesn't that copy of M$ OutLook Express you're running have a spell and
grammar checker?
Oh yes, one other thing: you should seek treatment for that very bad
case of trash mouth that afflicts you.
It makes you appear to a person with a extremely limited vocabulary.
Put another way: in movies with bad scripts and bad acting the producer
always tries to cover the weaknesses with loud or offensive music.
Omni� wrote:
>
> I fuckin LOVED reading that post !!!!!
> esp since I've been using MS products since 1986
>
> ans have only just instaled redhat 5.2
> and cant even get connected to the net
> I dont even know how to create a file
> like the copy con command in dos
>
> FUCK LINsux !!!
>
> why the hell did I bother?
> I must want to punish myself???
>
> this is like learning chinese
> nothing makes sense
> I'm a pretty good dos/win user
> now I'm a major linsux dweeb
> fuck that !
>
> ok linux is free
> so fuckin what
> I've never paid for a MS product either
> so whats the dif???
>
> I'll stick to NT and win98
> I can do just as much with a c complier and winsock
> than gnu and linsux
>
> remove .com (soume yoeung guih) wrote in message
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >Linus is such a pansy mother fucker. He needs real balls like bill
> >gates. Linus says "Hey Im a gay boy and give my shit away." Bill says:
> >"I own you linus mother fucker." Linus is a fuckin retard. Who else
> >would make a fuckin OS with so many security holes. How many fuckers
> >hack NT to run thier little eggdrop bots. You are all script kiddies.
> >Who the fuck would let other people butt rape him for a kernel. Bill
> >gates owns you all. I think we need to start putting tatoos on all
> >these fuckin artic following homos heads.. And hopefully that tatoo
> >will have bill gates head with a windows 2000 logo. I could write a
> >better OS out of basic on a toaster. My on screen programming for my
> >VCR is better than the gui for linux. I hope linus gets nut cancer and
> >dies. Microsoft will soon buy linux so you all can get a real os. I
> >cant wait for microsoft brings msinux to rape all you linux fags.
> >
> >Please do not flame me .. its only an opinion.
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