Linux-Misc Digest #546, Volume #21 Thu, 26 Aug 99 09:13:12 EDT
Contents:
DOS Terminal ("Mauro Bazzano")
Re: ls -N (tofu)
Re: Linux Journal or Linux Magazine (Kenny A. Chaffin)
Re: Linux Journal or Linux Magazine (Kenny A. Chaffin)
Re: Linux Journal or Linux Magazine (Kenny A. Chaffin)
97801 emulator for linux (Ralf Schiemann)
Re: Communicator 4.6 kills itself (Johan Kullstam)
Re: HP720C driver. what was it again? ("WanSLenowski")
Re: "starve the rotten little bastards" (Mark Wooding)
Re: UDP for net games behind a firewall I have no control of. (Simon Green)
TORNADO - 3COM Etherlinc Ethernet Card PROBLEM... ("Kristaps Licis")
Re: X freezes, how to escape? (muzh)
Re: Can Linux share modem with Windows? (William Wueppelmann)
Re: changing hostnames (William Wueppelmann)
Re: Start X-windows with specified visual ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Network config: AMD PCNET PCI?? (Thomas Zajic)
Re: "starve the rotten little bastards" (Dragon Master)
Linux success stories (Javier Fernandez)
Re: Oops, Need some repair help (Jayan M)
Re: Can I switch Answer YOU BET! (Jerry McBride)
Re: Best language for graphical apps? (Jan Panteltje)
Re: changing hostnames (Bob Tennent)
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From: "Mauro Bazzano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: DOS Terminal
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 11:19:01 +0200
Hi all there!
I'm new at this ng.
Somebody can reply to this?
I have two PCs, one P200 running Linux RH6 on it, the other a 486SX33
running Winblows 95.
I'd like to connect the two with a null modem serial cable.
How can I do?
I mean the exact procedure, step by step. (I'm new at Linux too)
Thanks
Mauro
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From: tofu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ls -N
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 06:37:52 -0400
Thank you. It makes perfect sence now.
tofu
"Stuart R. Fuller" wrote:
> tofu ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> : what does the -N option do for ls?
> : the man page says "do not quote filenames"
> : and _Linux in a Nutshell_ says "do not list filenames"
> :
> : I can't tell from reading these descriptions what the option does and
> : when I run /bin/ls with and without the -N option I see no diff in the
> : output.
>
> Normally, filenames are composed of printable characters. Sometimes,
> filenames are composed of non-printables. Why? Program errors, malicious
> attempts to hide files, whatever. So, normally, "ls" quotes non-printable
> characters. Sometimes, you don't want that (maybe the non-printables are a
> sequence that screws up your terminal?). So, you use -N.
>
> Here's an example:
>
> #
> # Create a filename with a Control-G (bel) character in the filename
> #
> [stu@c49395-a tmp1]$ touch test^Gtest
>
> #
> # Now, display the file list. Note that the ^G is replaced with a '?'
> #
> [stu@c49395-a tmp1]$ ls
> test?test
>
> #
> # Display the file list again, this time with -N. Note that there is no ^G in
> # the filename, nor is there a '?'. However, and you can't hear it, my system
> # beeped when it displayed the file list.
> #
> [stu@c49395-a tmp1]$ ls -N
> testtest
>
> Stu
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenny A. Chaffin)
Subject: Re: Linux Journal or Linux Magazine
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 04:47:20 -0600
In article <7pvpj1$1fl$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
says...
> LINUX JOURNAL reads more like a technical journal. The articles are
> written (mostly) by computer professionals for other computer
> professionals.
>
> LINUX MAGAZINE is more like a general circulation magazine. More
> attention seems to be given to the writing style, which uses fewer
> undefined technical terms. They have more no-computer-content
> articles like the one in the current issue about a Red Hat promotion,
> "Geek Week". LJ has case studies of actual Linux usage.
>
> I read them both, but I'd give up LINUX MAGAZINE first. I really
> don't care about how the computer geeks reacted to their snorkeling
> trip being canceled. OTOH, LM has better interviews.
> --
> Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> "This fool wishes to reverse the entire science of astronomy."
> -Martin Luther on Copernicus' theory that the Earth orbits the sun
>
Thanks Carl!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenny A. Chaffin)
Subject: Re: Linux Journal or Linux Magazine
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 04:48:13 -0600
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
says...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenny A. Chaffin) writes:
>
> > There is no
> > unbiased objective point of view.
> If there's no unbiased, objective point of view, then how can you
> claim that there is no unbiased, objective point of view. Either your
> claim is false, or it contradicts itself. The good news is that you
> get to pick which one it is!
> -ckm
>
<grin>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenny A. Chaffin)
Subject: Re: Linux Journal or Linux Magazine
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 04:48:35 -0600
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
says...
> On 25 Aug 1999 02:48:04 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Lanning)
> wrote:
> >which was better for you. It's like asking, "Which is better,
> >'The Matrix' or '2001: A Space Odyssey'?". It's for you to
>
> It's an accepted fact that 2001 is better the The Matrix. :)
>
> ---
> Dustin Puryear
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Definitely!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ralf Schiemann)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: 97801 emulator for linux
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 10:52:14 GMT
Hi,
I'm looking for a tool to emulate a Siemens Nixdorf 97801 terminal
under Linux. Can anybody give me a hint?
Thank you,
Ralf
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,aus.comuters.linux
Subject: Re: Communicator 4.6 kills itself
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 26 Aug 1999 07:18:04 -0400
"Jim Ross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > "David L. Johnson" wrote:
> > >
> > > Lee Revell wrote:
> > >
> > > > turned off Java. Netscape is a prety shoddy piece of software in
> > > > general - you can't copy and paste the normal X way, you have to
> select
> > > > the text, Edit | Copy, then Edit | Paste, just like in MS Windows. I
> > > > would use IE in a heartbeat if it were ever ported to linux.
> > >
> > > Whatever gives you the idea that IE would be any better than netscape?
> > >
> >
> > Well, for one thing, you could be reading a large document (some /.
> > threads come to mind) and you could follow a link, and when you hit
> > 'back', it would take you back to exactly where you were in the previous
> > document, like IE does, instead of having to scroll through 5 screens to
> > find where you were.
> >
> > I hate microsoft as much as the next guy, but IE is clearly a superior
> > browser.
really? i find lynx to be a better browser. i find telnet to be
better browser. IE is about on par with lotus-123. look at the
newsgroups headers -- this is *linux*. IE doesn't even run in linux.
> I think IE 5.0 is more advanced than Netscape.
> Especially Netscape under Linux even at 4.61
> (I'm scared that Mozilla also runs better in Windows)
>
> But their are issues I have with IE too.
> IE still can't fade-in a progressive jpeg.
> IE still has a problem with the cache that click the back button often makes
> IE reload the page from the Internet.
you forgot the big one --- there's still no internet explorer for
linux. i fail to see how it could be more advanced than netscape.
netscape exists for linux. IE does not. sounds like netscape beats
IE six ways 'til sunday.
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Don't Fear the Penguin!
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From: "WanSLenowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HP720C driver. what was it again?
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 07:22:00 -0400
> This printer uses a special HP-windows only-protocol. But i know there
> was somebody who wrote a driver for linux fot these printer.
Actually I believe it's a script, and it only prints in black and white at
this time.
http://www.httptech.com/ppa/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Wooding)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: "starve the rotten little bastards"
Date: 26 Aug 1999 11:06:54 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Richard Kulisz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >If those persons are further so irresponsible as to create new life
> >and refuse to provide all the basics - food, shelter, etc. then that
> >constitutes
>
> If they "refuse" to do the impossible? What marvel of twisted thinking.
If it's impossible for these people then they shouldn't breed. That's
logical enough, surely.
> I suppose you blame victims of rape for "refusing" to defend
> themselves?
They don't get a choice. People who breed when they can't support
children properly do get a choice, and choose irresponsibly.
[Hmm... The newsgroups line says this is gnu.misc.discuss and
comp.os.linux.*, but this thread feels more like uk.transport.]
-- [mdw]
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From: Simon Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: UDP for net games behind a firewall I have no control of.
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 21:06:28 +1000
First question: probably not. You'll have to talk to the sysadmin. You may be
able to get them to unblock the port you need. Maybe you could try using a
different port; Quake et. al will let you use any port, but I don't know about
StartCraft, particularly if you need to use battle.net.
Second question: not a chance. It's amazing enough to get Windows programs to
work under Windows. What wine attempts is to intercept Windows calls and
translate them into X/Unix calls. Sounds simple, but it's pretty complicated,
and wine is dodgy at best. Programs that do run, work at about a tenth normal
speed, and fall over in a stiff breeze. That said, hats off to the development
team, even that's a huge achievement!
Sean wrote:
> I want to ba able to run net games which require UDP packets. I'm behind a
>
> firewall that I have no control of. It blocks almost everything and I
>
> can't even connect to IRC (I get disconnected every time I try to connect).
>
> This also aplies to Windows (obviously) and I'd like to be able to play
>
> starcraft on battle.net under either windows or wine (I don't really care).
>
> I'm rather new to Linux and I like playing Quake and Q3Atest, preferably
>
> over the net. By the way is there a way to get unreal working under wine
>
> (I have 990815), I also tried it on 990731 and 990704 and I still couldn't
>
> get it to work.
>
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From: "Kristaps Licis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: TORNADO - 3COM Etherlinc Ethernet Card PROBLEM...
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 07:16:47 -0400
Hello!
I would greatly appreciate any insights as to possible solutions to the
following problem: RedHat 6.0 installation would not recognize the EtherLink
ethernet card [model - 3C905C or "TORNADO" according to Vertex
classification] on my DELL PC even though the card's model appears to be
supported under the VERTEX family name. It seems that the module I should
use for this card is 3c59x.o which should detect io and irq automatically.
Nevertheless, it does not seem to work: 1) the RedHat 6.0 setup would not
find the ethernet card once I request it to use 3c59x.o module; 2) once
trying to load the module [install the ethernet card] from within LINUX I
also fail. Should I provide any options for this type of a card? What should
those be?
Meanwhile - Windows 98 do recognize this card and the card is fully
functional in W98. The details provided by Windows 98 regarding my ethernet
card are as follows:
EtherLink 10/100 PCI - (3C905C-TX)
Interrupt level: 11
I/O base: 1400
Slot number: 1400
Boot ROM: disabled
Performance optimized for: Normal
Data Rate: 10/100 Mbps support
Media connector: Auto Select
Device ID 9200
I/O Port Range 1400h-147h
Interrupt Request Level: 11
Thank you very much in advance!
Kristaps
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From: muzh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: X freezes, how to escape?
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 23:36:18 +1200
Here is an even weirder suggestion which seems to have worked for me:
Go into your motherboard BIOS setup and change the addressing modes of
your hard disks from LBA to Normal (or CHS). Then reinstall Linux,
making sure your root (or /boot) partition resides inside the first 1024
cylinders -- ie within the first 504 megabytes.
muzh
Warren Bell wrote:
>
> I had Redhat 5.2 and every once in a while X would freeze up. I tried
> ctrl-alt-backspace, esc and nothing would get me out of X. I'd end up
> having to just shut off the machine.
>
> Is there a way to escape X when it locks up? What else can be done if X
> freezes?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Wueppelmann)
Subject: Re: Can Linux share modem with Windows?
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 11:31:47 GMT
In our last episode (Wed, 25 Aug 1999 19:30:56 GMT),
the artist formerly known as Ben Vince said:
(s/^M//'d for legibility)
>
>nonet@chain wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have Linux, but my LAN pals have Windows. They won't change.
>> To convince them, I'd like to let them share my modem through
>> Linux, something Windows can't do.
>>
>> Can this be done? Suggestions? Starters?
>>
>> Thanks
>Ah, but you can share your modem through windows as well, a program called
>artisoft ModemShare can be found at www.artisoft.com. But i still don't
>know howto set up a modem sharing procedure on Linux, i think you've got to
>get a program called IP Masqurade (?). If you want linux to share modems i
>wouldn't bother!! Use windows for it!
I have a modem on a Linux machine and a Windows machine (and a FreeBSD
machine) uses it to connect to the internet. You just need to make your
Linux machine the gateway for the Windows machine (you need to run
something like ipfwadm on Linux and set your Windows TCP/IP networking
parameters to use the Linux machine as the gateway). Of course, you need
the two machines to be networked as well. You will likely need to
recompile your kernel to include goodies like firewalling and IP
masquerading.
There is dial on demand software for Linux, which I played with a bit but
wasn't really impressed with the whole idea, so on my system, if you want
to use Windows to access the Internet, you have to telnet to the Linux
machne and dial in from there. It's a little more awkward, but it's
simpler and allows for minimal phone line useage (since I don't have a
dedicated modem line).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Wueppelmann)
Subject: Re: changing hostnames
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 11:31:47 GMT
In our last episode (24 Aug 1999 11:09:58 -0700),
the artist formerly known as Chris Mahmood said:
>Anup Rao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> I'd like to know how I can change the my hostname to something I like.
>>
>> I can use 'hostname', but the effects don't last past boot time.
>You need to modify the boot script at the point your hostname gets
>set. Sorry, I remeber where redhat does this...just grep through
>/etc/rc.d for 'hostname'
>-ckm
On my system (Debian 2.0), it reads /etc/hostname to get the value.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Start X-windows with specified visual
Date: 26 Aug 1999 11:45:02 GMT
start your server with :visualno (e.g. startx -- :17)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Zajic)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Network config: AMD PCNET PCI??
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 11:44:25 GMT
On Wed, 25 Aug 1999 22:02:15 -0500, Scott Copus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I will probably be buying a motherboard real soon with on-board
> everything--including a network card. I think the brand is AMD
> PCNET also. I have been reading everything I can to find out
> what this NIC chipset supports as far as OS's goes. Reading
> the Linux _Ethernet How-To_ says that AMD PCNET chipsets
> should work by loading the LANCE or NE1500 modules.
>
> Try that out. I would *VERY* much be interested in your
> results... if it worked or not. Is your NIC onboard?
I once had an HP Kayak XA with an on-board AMD PCNet/32 card, it worked
flawlessly with the "AMD LANCE and PCnet (AT1500 and NE2100) support"
selected in the kernel config.
HTH,
Thomas
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dragon Master)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: "starve the rotten little bastards"
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 11:49:55 GMT
HEIL HITLER - HEIL HITLER - HEIL HITLER
GAS CHAMBERS ARE THE ANSWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
On 10 Aug 1999 18:42:20 -0400, Greg Yantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"Noah Roberts (jik-)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> "W.A. Scheer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Your stupidity overwealms me.
>
>> > There are no solutions to this problem without making someone, somewhere
>> > "feel bad". The key is to deal with genuine vs. imagined "need".
>> > Able-bodied adults who sponge off of the rest of society are (IMHO)
>> > criminals who need to be treated as such - end of THAT story.
>
>A not-uncommon sentiment. Do what you want, but don't be a burden to others.
>
>> > If those persons are further so irresponsible as to create new life and
>> > refuse to provide all the basics - food, shelter, etc. then that
>> > constitutes child abuse. They should be arrested, tried and convicted
>> > of THAT crime. Parol terms should include "not making any more babies
>> > or creating any more pregnancies".
>
>Well, unless they better themselves and their situation. When dealing
>with people you always want a carrot *and* a stick.
>
>[snip]
>
>> So, if your not married you can't have children right? Fucking idiot
>> you are.
>
>You seem to have a reading comprehension problem here.
>
>Being able to provide for your offspring, and not place the burden of
>supporting them on others has nothing directly to do with being married.
>It's not an unreasonable idea, and it runs throughout many cultures: that
>you should only be allowed to have the children (and wives, in some places)
>you can afford.
>
>Can you address the issue with swearing a blue streak?
>
>> > Richard Kulisz wrote in message <7ogcj7$hij$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>> > >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, A.T.Z. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > >>Richard Kulisz schreef:
>> > >>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, A.T.Z. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> > >>What is inhuman and immoral if you require people who have good health
>> > >>and are unemployed to do everything to get a job. Well, NOTHING. If
>> > >>they don't want to find a job then it is their own choiche and I think
>> > >>they shouldn't get more money from the government then the minimum
>> > >>required to stay alive. And perhaps they shouldn't get money at all.
>
>Not unreasonable, and it seems to be becoming a more common sentiment, as
>the aftereffects of our failed welfare state experiment become more obvious.
>
>> > >And what if they have kids?
>
>Before or after they can't afford them and choose not to work?
>
>If they have kids after, well then they should be subject to *some* form of
>disincentive, as opposed to being supported by the state and the labor of
>others, and thereby rewarded for their incredibly selfish and antisocial
>behavior.
>
>If they had kids already, and decide not to work to support them, then
>maybe the children should be placed in the custody of someone better able
>to raise them properly.
>
>> > >Oh, but that's Not Your Problem; sins of the
>> > >father and all that. Or maybe you want a special dispensation for
>> > >families; but that would just encourage those dirty welfare people to
>> > >breed, wouldn't it? Ahhh, that's the solution; forced sterilization!!
>
>Lovely. Many areas in the US *did* have a system that encouraged single
>unemployed mothers to have as many kids as they could. That's a problem
>that needs to be addressed.
>
>> > >All the problems are
>> > >solved that way, aren't they?
>
>What's wrong with individual reponsibility?
>
>-Greg
>
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From: Javier Fernandez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux success stories
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:31:26 GMT
Where can I find true success stories of Linux at real enterprises?
I'm trying to propouse Linux as O.S. for a given project at my company,
but my boss ask me to sample other enterprises USING Linux. All I find in
Internet are enterprises selling, developing, installing, consulting,
giving hot line support, and so on, but not using Linux in real business.
Do you see the point?
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From: Jayan M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Oops, Need some repair help
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 11:48:17 GMT
no, /dev/hda is wrong...It's the !st physical IDE harddisk.
it's the linux root partition that you have to fsck..
It might be /dev/hda1 (the first partition) or /dev/hda2
if you have windoze in the first partition..
look for the line in /etc/fstab with one field (tab separated - I
guess the second) that says just '/' without the quotes. The first
field in that line will tell you your root partition
if you see something like:
/dev/hda1 / rw,nosync 0 0 blah blah...
try fsck /dev/hda1 - that must work.
Jeanette Russo wrote:
> John Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > You need to fix the error involved with the file system check first. At
> > the prompt type: fsck /dev/hda
> When I try this I get a segmentation fault
>
> > (assuming /dev/hda is where your Linux partion is, it may be /dev/hdb,
> > etc).
> > It will check your drive and ask you if it can fix things. Say yes to
> > the questions. When it is done, reboot Linux. When it reboots, it
> > should work normally again (assuming no major filesystem damage was
> > done.)
> >
> > Havent' gotten that far yet.
> >
> > Jeanette Russo wrote:
> > >
> > > I was using dosemu and had a crash. When I rebooted I got this
> message,
> > > An error occurred in file system check dropping you to shell. The
> system
> > > will now reboot when you leave the shell. Give root password for maint.
> > > Then I give the root password and I try to start x and get this x11
> > > transport cannot connect error=2 giving up. xinit no such file or
> directory.
> > > Unable to connect to x server.
> > > Can this be fixed? If so can some one give me some good instructions I
> > > never had to try to fix Linux before?
> > > Thanks
> > > Jeanette
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jerry McBride)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.apps,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Can I switch Answer YOU BET!
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 07:20:32 -0400
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stefan A. Deutscher) wrote:
--- snip ---
>The in that regard best (most stable, most tunable) commercial UNIX
>flavour I have seen and administered is IBM AIX -- and I am very pleased
>to see that there is an effort to bring AIX back to the Intel Platforms.
>
> IBM Project Monterey:
> http://www.ibm.com/servers/monterey/overview/goals.html
>
Excellent! Having tasted Linux and Solaris on intel... I'm a bit sour on Unix.
However, if AIX does make it back on intel... I will also switch without a
blink. I don't recall when AIX was killed on the Intel platform, could be back
when OS/2 was released... Anyway, I sure miss it like hell...
>This is where I'll go should my copies of OS/2 magically stop working
>one day, by the way. Should disaster strike before, I'll fall back to
>FreeBSD. Well, actually, compared to the M$ alternative, I should say
>"fall forward".
>
Ditto...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jan Panteltje)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Best language for graphical apps?
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 99 12:07:10 GMT
>
> You might consider XBasic, an integrated development environment
> with interactive graphical GuiDesigner. XBasic is not compatible with
> VisualBasic, but offers many similar capabilities. The main differences
> between XBasic and VisualBasic are:
>
> 1. XBasic is fully compiler-based and you can make executables.
> 2. XBasic is available for both Windows and Linux (compatible).
> 3. XBasic is freeware and you can download via the internet.
> 4. XBasic function protocol is compatible with C / Linux / Win32.
>
I have installed (then in complete frustration erased it), slept a night,
downloaded it again, tried examples again, and come to the same conclusion
(erasae it).
Why:
1) you cannot make a Linux executable (windows version seem to be able to).
So you always have to use xb to load an .x file (and with that reveal
your source).
2) there is no source of xb
3) It hangs every now and then, even ,on its own demos (timer for example).
4) I have editing problems.
5) The GUI misses a lot of stuff, like the nice graphs for example you have
in xforms,at least i could not find these.
6) If it hangs, or rather when, killall does not even regain control,
I have to type kill -s KILL id (from an other xterm)
7) I would have to learn a yet another new language, as the syntax is well,
different.
8) Documentaion forgets to guide you writing a simple program and then add more etc..
BUT I still have it on my machine, whenever I have some time I will play with it
some more perhaps.
Point is, IF it worked without problems, it would have great commercial value,
as it is fast, then I could sell in the MS windows market too.
But a lot will have to improve before that...
Jan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Tennent)
Subject: Re: changing hostnames
Date: 26 Aug 1999 12:05:58 GMT
Reply-To: rdt(a)cs.queensu.ca
On Sun, 22 Aug 1999 20:30:59 -0400, Anup Rao wrote:
>I'm runnign redhat..
>
>I'd like to know how I can change the my hostname to something I like.
>
Edit /etc/sysconfig/network
Bob T.
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