Linux-Misc Digest #558, Volume #18 Sun, 10 Jan 99 20:13:13 EST
Contents:
Re: Netscape, and garbage in text entry areas. (Erik Rissanen)
Re: Linux: Fight for survival or on victory march? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ... ("Omni�")
Re: Bob's Ignorance -- Or Is It Flamebait? (Christopher B. Browne)
Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ... (Jerry Lynn Kreps)
Re: hostname and finger plan (NF Stevens)
Re: StarOffice 50 , where to get? (Chris J/#6)
Re: rename multiple files? (NF Stevens)
Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ... ("Omni�")
Network config (Cameron Fraser)
Netscape Mail Question (Mykool)
Win98/Redhat 5.1 - Partitioning HD probs - Very Newbie :) (Derek Colley)
Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ... (Jeremy Crabtree)
Re: Linux Commands ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ... ("Omni�")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Erik Rissanen)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Netscape, and garbage in text entry areas.
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:17:26 GMT
In article <77b58t$la6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bill Unruh wrote:
> I am running Netscape(4.05) on Linux Redhat 5.1 (4.05)
>In text entry areas, like the ones in the search entries on the Netwcape
>Search page , If I go back to try to edit those areas, a whole bunch of
>garbage gets entered onto the end of the entry if I try to backspace
>delete the letters of the entry. The only way out seems to be to kill
>Netscape and try again.
>Is this a known bug? Is there some way around it?
>
>( Mch64 driver on an ATI Rage Pro card, running Aotherlevel window
>manager.)
I noticed the same problem. It seems to me that it is some kind of bug
in motif. Version 4.5 of communicator doesn't have the problem. You
could also try 4.08 (or whatever is the latest).
Also the libc5 versions don't seems to have the problem. However in
that case you would need to get some extra libs to make it work at
all. (Netscape will give a bus error on standard libc5.)
Hope this helps.
--
http://www.bahnhof.se/~mirty/
I am sorry for my bad English (eller svenska).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux: Fight for survival or on victory march?
Date: 10 Jan 1999 22:58:49 GMT
In the sacred domain of comp.os.linux.misc didst Jeremy Crabtree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
eloquently scribe:
: (BTW, the english word you were probably looking for is "debate". Despite the
: similarities, a debate is different from an argument.)
<python>
No it isn't...
</python>
:)
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From: "Omni�" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ...
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:05:57 +1100
I wasnt asking you
are you the local showoff here?
and fyi every new gen of an intel cpu has
different instructions
besides dipshit i wasnt asking for an asm routine
I was asking the dude for machine instructions
since when can a cpu understand "%" as anything but text
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message ...
>On Mon, 11 Jan 1999 08:40:02 +1100, Omni� <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>yeah?
>>that wasnt my question , dickwad
>>it was how do you create a txt file from the command line
>>and access a cd drive
>>apparently it seemed appropiate enough for a person to ask
>>10 minutes after installing linux for the 1st time .
>>
>>appropoiate enough for several regulars on this NG to reply to
>>
>>if your so fuckin smart
>>whats the intel p200 cpu machine language code
>
>what does a 200mhz have to do with asm dumbass?
>BTW P5 is not THAT different from 386 & 486 for
>user apps.
>
>>to create a nul file in linux?
>
>here you go dickhead, a piece of Linux asm code for i86 that
>will create a file called some_shit:
>
> .file "fc.c"
> .version "01.01"
>gcc2_compiled.:
>.section .rodata
>.LC0:
> .string "some_shit"
>.text
> .align 4
>.globl main
> .type main,@function
>main:
> pushl %ebp
> movl %esp,%ebp
> subl $4,%esp
> pushl $64
> pushl $.LC0
> call open
> addl $8,%esp
> movl %eax,%eax
> movl %eax,-4(%ebp)
> movl -4(%ebp),%eax
> pushl %eax
> call close
> addl $4,%esp
>.L9:
> leave
> ret
>.Lfe1:
> .size main,.Lfe1-main
> .ident "GCC: (GNU) 2.7.2.3"
>
>Now go and read some documentation before mouthing off.
>BTW asm and C are far more simpler than administration
>(PROPER) of a unix cluster. Learning any language is
>easy, only applying it is hard (algorithims and code
>optimization).
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Andy Wendel wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>>>On Sun, 10 Jan 1999 14:23:06 +0000, Jeff Kay
>>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Since the original intent of this was only ment to inflame linux users
or
>>>>advocates and in no way put forth any constructive critisism I'll ignore
>>>>most of what was said....
>>>>
>>>>I do however find it ironic ( humorous even ) that the original poster
put
>>>>"Please dont flame me its only an Opinion"? What would this person
expect
>>>>from such a comment....
>>>>
>>>>Now to the heart of what I wished to say before HOPEFULLY we can put
this
>>>>thread to sleep -- for good...
>>>>
>>>>I fail to understand why either of you would bother to use linux if you
>>>>weren't willing to put in even the slightest effort..... The second
>>>>commentor here mentions that he doesn't know how to copy a file like he
>>did
>>>>on dos/win ( though he points out he's used dos for since 1986 ), yet
>>>>further down he he says he'll go back to using NT and programming c++
>>>>there...... Somehow I doubt your programming capabilities, if you cant
>>>>figure out how to copy a file....really how difficult is it to a) look
it
>>>>up in the man pages b) borrow a unix book from the library and learn c)
>>>>search the net or d) ask a newsgroup ?
>>>>
>>>>How did you learn how to copy a file in dos .... I'm mean you did have
to
>>>>LEARN didn't you.... this wasn't an ingrained DNA encoded instinct with
>>you
>>>>was it? You just naturally knew... how about dir...surely thats not
common
>>>>sense ( since list would make more ) and yet I'm sure you can do that
>>>>too...how? maybe you learned how to do it.... That you were unwilling
to
>>>>put forth the effort to even try to learn is a comment about you NOT
about
>>>>Linux...
>>>>
>>>>So you get windows for free..... the difference is I can never be
charged
>>>>for using linux without paying.... maybe someone will cc your message
off
>>>>to MS and they come hunting you down...sure they have better things to
do
>>>>but they sure would like making a point too and hey they got the spare
>>cash
>>>>to do it...
>>>>
>>>>While in your eyes learning linux may be like learning chinese a) over a
>>>>billion people have done it ( not linux, chinese ) and b) at least at
the
>>>>end you would have had the satitsfaction of having accomplished
something
>>>>you consider difficult.... That you would ever attempt to use linux
>>>>without learning it is laughable.... I wonder how succesful a tirp to
>>china
>>>>would be if you didn't know even so rudimentary chinese or something of
>>the
>>>>place you were about to visit..... You cant blame your ignorance on
Linux
>>>>or the thousands of people who have developed it, though you may try.
>>>>
>>>>As for the original poster, why... why bother with such a comment....
>>DON't
>>>>ANSWER BACK .. its rehtorical.... That you make comments such as "MS
will
>>>>own linux" or "that bill owns us" or "that your vcr has a better gui and
>>>>that you could program a better OS" Really? Haven't done it have you?
Its
>>>>great you can shout your mouth off but where's the proof.... If you're
so
>>>>great then you could have joined the OSS community and help to make
linux
>>>>more user friendly for the layperson...alas I doubt you've even used it,
>>>>based on your comments..... sure you may have listened to a few
newsgroups
>>>>even read an article about it, but that is the extent of your knowledge
>>and
>>>>experience I'm sure..... A second comment would be if vcr's are so user
>>>>friendly how come most people's still flash 12:00?
>>>>
>>>>Funny thing too...My dad who doesn't know dos and barely understands
>>>>computers was able to sit down a the computer last night ( which
happened
>>>>to be in linux mode ) and find mahjongg on it..start it and play it no
>>>>questions asked.... guess linux cant be that difficult...:-)
>>>>
>>>>jeff
>>>>
>>>>> _________________________
>>>
>>>Some of the kiddies don't seem to know what hardware they have in that
>>>little box on their desk.... I guess it can be frustrating when you
>>>don't know pci from isa...
>>>
>>>Oh boys, if you were such DOS wizards, then you SHOULD know the old
>>>LONG commands, such as rmdir, mkdir, etc... amazing... they are the
>>>same as Linux....
>>>
>>>Considering DOS is the poor bastard stepchild of Unix to begin with.
>>>
>>>Is Linux perfect? Not by a long shot. But I have yet to make it
>>>crash. If this were a perfect world, I would not have to waste my
>>>bandwidth on dweebs like you trolls...
>>>
>>>If Linux sucks, you guys must be the backwash....
>>
>>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Bob's Ignorance -- Or Is It Flamebait?
Date: 10 Jan 1999 20:33:28 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 10 Jan 1999 08:15:27 -0600, Jerry Lynn Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
>Michael Fleming wrote:
><snip>
>> (and if he continues to morph, I'll pull out a few good regexps for him -
>> try that in your average Windows newsreader.. ;-))
>
>What are "regexps"?
That's short for "regular expressions."
They're one of the basic things taught in a computing theory course, and
prove remarkably useful in practice.
Basic idea: they represent a way of describing patterns to match against
strings. A set of "operators" may be used to provide a fairly rich set
of pattern matching functionality.
Thus,
"look*"
is a regular expression that would be used to search for expressions
containing "look" followed by anything else.
It would match:
look
looking
I was looking for something
It would *not* match:
loook
this is a line that doesn't contain l o o k in a "raw" form
The regular expression "a*b" would match:
aaabbbb
ab
a b
This is a string that contains several letter a's and one letter b
But not
ba
bbbbbbba
There tend to be options to group bits of expressions
(this|that) anything
searches for expressions looking either like "this anything" or "that anything"
Searching for
[a-z]
would find anything containing letters in the range a..z
Perl's regex handling adds in "groupings," where
:\d*:
is a regular expression that looks for a colon followed by a sequence
of digits (0..9) followed by another colon.
The theoretical CS part of this is that a regular expression may be
mapped directly to a finite state automaton, which means that you can
always represent REs in a reasonably efficient manner.
regexes are *really* useful for searching text, and to some extent
for parsing text. They are of limited power (finite state automatons
have limited power compared to Turing machines), but are really useful
for a lot of problems.
>> "Bill Gates isn't the Devil - Satan made sure Hell worked
>> before he opened it to the damned..."
>:-)
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Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
-- Henry Spencer <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
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From: Jerry Lynn Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ...
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:33:10 -0600
Omni� wrote:
>
> sorry buddy
I'm not your "buddy"
> but I dont pretend to be a PHD in english lit
Can't you pretend you have a high school diploma or at least write at
the eight grade level?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: hostname and finger plan
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 22:47:35 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris) wrote:
>How do I change my hostname without rebooting? Is it even possible?
>Right now it's localhost.localdomain and I want it to be my domain
>name. I've used linuxconf with success but I'm telneting right now
>and I can't run a gui app ya know?
>Also, how do I set the plan for users? I assume it's a file somewhere
>in the ~user directory but I can't figure it out. Any help is
>greatfully welcomed! =)
hostname <new name for host>
~/ .plan
Norman
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From: Chris J/#6 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: StarOffice 50 , where to get?
Date: 10 Jan 1999 23:00:58 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Try going to http://www.stardivision.com
Chris...
In article <77ap0f$i2s$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
James Holbrook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello all;
>
>Being fairly new to Linux, I need to ask if someone can point me to the
>StarOffice site to download 5.0. Can't seem to find it in a search of the
>net. All I get is earlier version sites or they are in German(which I can't
>read)
>
>Thanks in advance for any assistance.
>
>James
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens)
Subject: Re: rename multiple files?
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:02:21 GMT
Stef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have some hundred files copied from windows, which contain spaces
>and braces, which I want to exchange with underquotes. Can emacs do
>that? Does anybody know/have a shell or perl script for that purpose?
>Any other ides on how to do it effectively?
>
for file in *
do
mv "$file" `echo "$file" | tr "{} " "___"`
done
Check the man pages for the individual commands.
Norman
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ...
Date: 10 Jan 1999 23:59:11 GMT
In the sacred domain of comp.os.linux.misc didst Omni� <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
eloquently scribe:
: Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote in message ...
:>On Sun, 10 Jan 1999 22:11:25 +1100, Omni� <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:>
:>>ans have only just instaled redhat 5.2
:>>and cant even get connected to the net
:>>I dont even know how to create a file
:>>like the copy con command in dos
:>
:>Can we help it if you can't read the manual, or any of the
:>documentation?
: yeah?
: show me where in the help or man commands
: it tells you how to create a text file
Oh yeah.
It really takes a genius to know how to open a text editor, doesn't it?
Try joe <filename>
D'OH! This one's thicker than Barney Gumbo after a heavy drinking session at
Moes.
: and how to access the cd rom as root , after instalation?
mount the cd of course...
mount -t iso9660 /cdrom /dev/hdb
[And I thought *I* had problems with my ol' Soundblaster CD a month ago....]
: it doesnt !
Yes it does. It's dead easy.
It might even be mounted automatically, but as you seem to be totally
incapable of readin any HOWTO or other documentation, you wouldn't know
that.
: btw
: win98 has no trouble doing 10 things at once on my system
: and I think I will stick with it
: I have nothing to prove
I think you've already proved quite enough, thank you.
: and I can do just as much with a working knowledge of C
: and the winsock api
Pooooor, poor deluded fool....
: I had to see it for myself
: this all happened tonight
: after years of putting it off
: 10 minutes after instalation and booting for the 1st time
: I had lost interest
Attention spans of the kids these days...
It's truly shocking.
: its just way to unfriendly for a new user
Rubbish. It's not linuxs fault that you can't even read.
I imagine you actually had to get some chimp to type this FOR you...
: at least MS hides the techical shit from the new user
So can linux, if a competent person installs it.
(Or you use SuSE)
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From: "Omni�" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ...
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 11:17:27 +1100
i happen to like
my simplistic style
it dosent intimidate , and I intend remaining the way I am
I never had the luxory of going to schol like urself
and I wouldnt piss on the likes of urself if u were on fire
no fuck off and leave me alone
else you want to invite more insults on urself
Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Omni� wrote:
>>
>> sorry buddy
>I'm not your "buddy"
>
>> but I dont pretend to be a PHD in english lit
>
>Can't you pretend you have a high school diploma or at least write at
>the eight grade level?
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From: Cameron Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Network config
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 20:11:34 -0500
hey, i'm would like to know if it is possible to activate the ppp0 interface
from another user account that does not have root access? ie, i can open the
control panel but not the network configurator to activate a ppp session with my
isp.
the howtos and faqs all deal with command line workarounds...
also how do i turn off the screen blanking?
anyhelp would be appreciated....kamrin
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From: Mykool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Netscape Mail Question
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:23:03 -0500
Is there any way I could use my netscape mail (and news) directories
from win 9x with linux netscape. I tried to set the mail and news
directory through the preferences to that on my win 9x drive, but the
results weren't exactly what I wanted. All help is appreciated.
--
Michael Barnhill
http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gte294f
ICQ 13526262
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 00:15:19 +0000
From: Derek Colley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Win98/Redhat 5.1 - Partitioning HD probs - Very Newbie :)
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Hi,
Having bought a book on Linux, and successfully installed it on a test
computer (Compaq P233 3GB) at work, using the whole drive for Linux, I'm
having a go on my own computer, at home, trying to keep the Windows 98
stuff that I already have.
I'm having problems installing Redhat v5.1 on a Dell 450Mhz, 12.9GB HD,
128 MB RAM.
I have downloaded fips.exe v2.0 and 'cut' the disk into 8.389GB and 4GB.
While running the Linux boot disk in the installation routine, I get to
setting up the Linux partition. (pg 50 in the manual :)
My installation looks something like this (in Redhat's own partitioning
thingy):
Current Disk Partitions:
Mount Point Requested Actual Type
hda1.........8393M......8393M...0x0c
hda2.........4000M......4000M...0x0f
Drive Summaries:
Drive Geom[C/H/S] Total Used Free
hda [1024/255/63] 8032M 12393 -4361
In fdisk [expert mode] the listing of partitions WARNS that partition 1
and 2 overlap!! Is this bad?
Other things I've tried:
fdisk in DOS:
- using (and then not) the support for large disks, I've created an
Extended Partition called D:
- deleting the extended partition, and then running the Linux
Installation
I'm concerned about the following:
1. The installation routine refers to version 2.0!!
2. The partition type (above) is not in the list of recognised
partitioned.
3. The Free space is negative.
What I'm really looking for is someone to tell me I'm 'doing it wrong'
and to re-assure me that I won't have to re-do the entire drive :)
And, of course, to point me in the right direction.
Thanks in advance.
Derek
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<html>
Hi,
<p>Having bought a book on Linux, and successfully installed it on a test
computer (Compaq P233 3GB) at work, using the whole drive for Linux, I'm
having a go on my own computer, at home, trying to keep the Windows 98
stuff that I already have.
<p>I'm having problems installing Redhat v5.1 on a Dell 450Mhz, 12.9GB
HD, 128 MB RAM.
<p>I have downloaded fips.exe v2.0 and 'cut' the disk into 8.389GB and
4GB.
<p>While running the Linux boot disk in the installation routine, I get
to setting up the Linux partition. (pg 50 in the manual :)
<br>My installation looks something like this (in Redhat's own partitioning
thingy):
<p><font face="Courier New,Courier">Current Disk Partitions:</font>
<br><font face="Courier New,Courier">Mount Point Requested
Actual Type</font>
<br><font face="Courier New,Courier">hda1.........8393M......8393M...0x0c</font>
<br><font face="Courier New,Courier">hda2.........4000M......4000M...0x0f</font><font
face="Courier New,Courier"></font>
<p><font face="Courier New,Courier">Drive Summaries:</font>
<br><font face="Courier New,Courier">Drive Geom[C/H/S]
Total Used Free</font>
<br><font face="Courier New,Courier">hda [1024/255/63]
8032M 12393 -4361</font>
<p>In fdisk [expert mode] the listing of partitions WARNS that partition
1 and 2 overlap!! Is this bad?
<p>Other things I've tried:
<br>fdisk in DOS:
<br>- using (and then not) the support for large disks, I've created an
Extended Partition called D:
<br>- deleting the extended partition, and then running the Linux Installation
<p>I'm concerned about the following:
<br>1. The installation routine refers to version 2.0!!
<br>2. The partition type (above) is not in the list of recognised
partitioned.
<br>3. The Free space is negative.
<p>What I'm really looking for is someone to tell me I'm 'doing it wrong'
and to re-assure me that I won't have to re-do the entire drive :)
<br>And, of course, to point me in the right direction.
<p>Thanks in advance.
<br>Derek</html>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeremy Crabtree)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ...
Date: 11 Jan 1999 00:43:08 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] allegedly wrote:
[SNIP]
>Need help on a specific subject?
>Type apropos <whatever>
>This list all commands that have <whatever> in the man page summary.
>Then type man <command>
>
>(this brings up a manual... Suprising, isn't it?)
I thought I'd add a couple more ways to get help...
info <command>
help <command>
xman
tkman
[SNIP]
--
"Being myself a remarkably stupid fellow, I have had to unteach myself the
difficulties, and now beg to present to my fellow fools the parts that are
not hard" --Silvanus P. Thompson, from "Calculus Made Easy."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux Commands
Date: 11 Jan 1999 00:38:48 GMT
In his obvious haste, Jerry Lynn Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled thusly:
:> > Where can I find a site or a book with all linux commands.
:>
:> You can't; there's no such thing. But try these:
: There isn't?
I think what he was getting at was that there is no limit to what linux can
do.
Someone wants a new command?
They can add it.
The moment that happens, a previously complete book is no longer complete.
If you get my drift.
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From: "Omni�" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ...
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 11:46:43 +1100
hey
this all happened coz I read an email that I though was amusing
at exactly the same time that my frustrations at trying to
access my cdrom via the linux command line
I get silly advice referring to x windows
I tell you all this
if I wanted a gui I would use windows
the only reason I'm giving this a try is
out of curiosity
I had plenty of opertunities in the past to try unix
1st wirh aix , then xenix , then sco then sun os
but was always a slow typist so that put me off
coz lets face it , to be productive using unix (not X)
you gotta be a good tyist
now that my typing speed (note speed , not acccuracy)
is a tad faster than in 1986
I thought
hell why not
the cd is only $15 AU
and its says self booting on the cover
"up and running in minutes" was the claim
I guess I was just too lazy to learn another set of commands
who wants to go through dweeb stage again?
hell I dont
I though just maybe there is an easier way
and there isnt
so I either get on with it
or stick with MS and never know another style
I like variety
so I'll stick with it
and yes I know how to use a search engine very well
I would have left this NG had no-one replied
but I stuck around , I'm a sucker for posting a reply to a reply
thanks for the guys who put up with my shit and soldiered on
with the cause ,
I appreciate all the advice
but I'm not one to get info from a other users
I have to do it the hard way
like I have done everything else
ciao
and BTW linux dosent suck
I thing its great idea!
a collective effort !
for the people by the people
(do I sound like a communist?)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message <77bfn1$aio$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>In the sacred domain of comp.os.linux.misc didst Omni�
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> eloquently scribe:
>: thanks anyway
>: I tried it but it said permission denied
>: it even says it when i go to dev/hda
>: or cd /dev/hda
>
>This is getting better by the minute...
>
>Mind if I just sit back and watch?
><pulls out a deckchair and a bag of popcorn and relaxes for the fun>
>
>cd /dev/hda indeed... *snigger*
>
>: I mean what kind of OS dosent allow the owner access to his/her hd??
>: please tell me
>
>Tell me ohe OS that will treat a file (in this case, a device driver) like
a
>directory?
>
>: I feel locked out of my own system
>: lol
>
>Yup. I think at this point, a lot of us are having a little giggle at your
>expense.
>
>
>: I know my install is OK
>: coz everything else works fine
>
>And you claim to be locked out of your hard disk????
>You can load and save things. The system starts up, and you can issue
>commands though, can't you?
>
>: its just frustrating thats all
>: sorry if i sound rude
>
>WoW! An apology.
>
>: i thought everyone here could handle a little street lingo
>: obviously I was wrong
>
>It is common in newsgroups to actually ask for help in a POLITE manner.
>
>: arnt all you guys ex hippies?
>
>It's got nothing to do with 1960s fashion to be courteous to people you
need
>help from.
>--
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