Linux-Misc Digest #664, Volume #18 Sun, 17 Jan 99 16:13:09 EST
Contents:
Re: Stepper Motor control (Ed Nather)
Installing Applixware 4.4.1 demo on Debian system (Daniel Dui)
Re: This is Linux, not Windows, so why not superior flexibility AND idiot-friendly?
(Alexander Viro)
Did Schmalensee write his written testimony? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: This is Linux, not Windows, so why not superior flexibility AND idiot-friendly?
(Alexander Viro)
Re: Anti-Linux FUD (Tim Smith)
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (jedi)
Test Post - please ignore (William R. Mattil)
Re: HELP: tape experts!!!! URGENT (Eric Lawson)
Re: This is Linux, not Windows, so why not superior flexibility AND idiot-friendly?
(John Hasler)
Re: My partition choice (Ernst-Udo Wallenborn)
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From: Ed Nather <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Stepper Motor control
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 16:07:41 +0000
Max Wheatley wrote:
>
> Hi Guys
>
> Seen some stepper motor control stuff under DOS using the parallel port.
> Works fine BUT we want to do it under Linux.
>
> Now I guess we will not be able to talk to the parallel port directly
> under Linux.........
>
> Anyone got any experience or can point me in the right direction ????
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You *can* talk to the parallel port directly under Linux. It's a bit
more awkward than in DOS, but possible. The O'Reilly book "Linux Device
Drivers" by Alessando Rubini tells you how, in detail.
ed
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Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 13:48:56 +0100
From: Daniel Dui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Installing Applixware 4.4.1 demo on Debian system
I got the RPMs for Applixware demo from the CD given with Rad Hat 5.2
How can I install it on a Debian system?
I tryed to use alien, but with poor results.
thanks in advance
Daniel
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Daniel Dui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.bigfoot.com/~d.dui/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Viro)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: This is Linux, not Windows, so why not superior flexibility AND
idiot-friendly?
Date: 17 Jan 1999 11:32:34 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I was suggesting to the person who said to write your own grep that he try
>using it on Word documents.
John, excuse me, but it's an idiocy. It's not a work for grep and we both know
it very well. And no, I'm not advocating Windows. Word's format is weird and
ugly and I don't see what relevance it has to search for regular expressions.
*If* you have some strange reason to deal with Word turdlets - though luck.
<weird speculation>
Probably piping the output of Word->ASCII convertor (I've heard there are such
beasts) to grep might be used if you are *really* pressed.
</weird speculation>
We also *both* know that asking whether one CAN grep on <substitute a system>
is asking whether one can count lines in a file. Yes, if you have read() and
write() you can write *any* filter, and grep is a simple one. That's what I
replied to and I don't know how it could be misparsed. You managed <shrug>
--
"You're one of those condescending Unix computer users!"
"Here's a nickel, kid. Get yourself a better computer" - Dilbert.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Did Schmalensee write his written testimony?
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 19:51:47 GMT
In http://www.lamlaw.com there is an article raising the possibility
that the written direct testimony of Schmalensee may have been written
by another author. He gives links to written testimony and the
transcript of the oral testimony. So here is the interesting challenge:
Is it possible by the comparison of the styles of all involved ( Murray,
Neukom etc....) to detect if the Written testimony was written by one of
them or by Schmalensee?
Any opinions?
Sinan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Viro)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: This is Linux, not Windows, so why not superior flexibility AND
idiot-friendly?
Date: 17 Jan 1999 11:18:31 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Allan Olesen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>>*CAN* you grep in windows?
>
>Just for the record: This posting is not a MS
>defense/advocacy/criticism. I just want to eliminate the guessing
>here.
>
>Sorry for my Linux ignorance. My experience with Linux is one week
>old, so I may have misunderstood the purpose of grep. Grep is the
>function that can search several files for a text string, right?
grep "foo[0-9]*" bar.c baz.c quux.h
types all lines from said files containing 'foo' followed by any amount
of digits.
ps aux | grep netscape
will print all lines from the output of ps aux (i.e. list of all processes)
containing 'netscape' (good candidates for kill ;-).
gzip -dc big_list.gz | grep -e "\(Bill|William\) \+Gates" | sort >foo
will print out all lines from unpacked contents of big_list.gz that
mention BG, sort them and write into the file foo. (Mentions BG -- contains
(Bill or William)(1 or more spaces)(Gates)).
It's a standard UNIX tool, ported to hell and back (there are versions
for DOS, etc.), very flexible and convenient.
>You can do that in W95 too. It is part of the standard built-in file
>search function, which can search for file names, sizes, dates and
>text strings. But it cannot replace text strings (don't know if Linux
>grep can), and it cannot be used from a prompt instead of GUI (suppose
>that Linux grep can).
For replacement use sed. Example:
if the file foo contains
pen $10
knife $15
bottle $10
#That's Jim's
cigarettes $3.45
and you'll say
sed -e 's/\([a-z]\+\) \+\(.*\)/\2: \1/' <foo >bar
bar will contain
$10: pen
$15: knife
$10: bottle
#That's Jim's
$3.45: cigarettes
Translation: if the line starts from several (at least one) letters, followed
by several (at least one) space, followed by any characters replace it with
whatever went for 'any characters' (chunk #2), then :, then space, then
whatever went for 'several letters' (chunk #1). Sed can do more interesting
things, but that alone does more than your typical DOS editor does for
search/replace bit.
See man sed, man grep for all their glory. Regular expressions (way to describe
patterns) are *extremely* powerful and once you got the idea behind them
pretty straightforward.
>And Word97 docs (example used in another part of this thread) can be
>searched too, if you have Word97 installed.
Yes, but to do that you have to fire up Word and be at the keyboard. You can't
put it into the script and tell to execute it each midnight, mailing the
output to you. You can't ask the system scan through the news for your name
as soon as load will be low enough and put the list of postings into the
file for later viewing (some, erm, net.persons tend to do that, so mentioning
their names in vain may lead to interesting results ;-)
--
"You're one of those condescending Unix computer users!"
"Here's a nickel, kid. Get yourself a better computer" - Dilbert.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Smith)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,alt.conspiracy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.x,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Anti-Linux FUD
Date: 17 Jan 1999 11:49:33 -0800
Jim Frost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>If the argument is that RedHat users aren't Linux users (ie they are less
>sophisticated) I'd have to say that such statements are sweeping
>generalizations. Certainly that's not true of the group I run with, but YMMV.
Doesn't Linus use Red Hat? I'd love to see how someone who thinks only
unsophisticated people use Red Hat deals with that little tidbit.
--Tim Smith
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jedi)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 11:41:26 -0800
On Sun, 17 Jan 1999 14:25:40 GMT, Bitbucket <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Sat, 16 Jan 1999 23:25:32 -0800, Arthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>>> I think the poster's point is that the stability issue is somewhat
>>> overblown. If windows was as_bad_as_COLA folks say, it would have
>>> never managed the saturation it has.
>>
>>Windows market saturation is more dependent on marketing to
>>computer manufacturers and its monopoly position than on the
>>quality customers perceive or don't perceive. the reverse of
>>that statement - that Windows IS as bad a COLA folks say, and
>>that's one reason Linux is growing rapidly - is probably
>>closer to the truth.
>
>You can stand on a street corner and give away shit in a brown bag all
>day. Your percentage of return customers will decline rapidly.
>I for one cannot fault MS on their marketing machine. It is a wonder
>to behold. But if their products were as bad as COLA poster's claim,
>MS would be no better off than the brown bag seller on the street.
You've got to have something else to buy, or buy nothing.
That's a pleasant thought: Buy Microsoft Crap.
Buy an overpriced Mac.
or Buy nothing?
[deletia]
--
Herding Humans ~ Herding Cats
Neither will do a thing unless they really want to, or |||
is coerced to the point where it will scratch your eyes out / | \
as soon as your grip slips.
In search of sane PPP docs? Try http://penguin.lvcm.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William R. Mattil)
Subject: Test Post - please ignore
Date: 17 Jan 1999 12:36:18 -0600
This is a test ... please ignore
--
William R. Mattil | Fred Astaire wasn't so great.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Ginger had to do it all backwards
(972) 399-4106 | and... in high heels.
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From: Eric Lawson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,fj.comp.dev.tape,fido.ger.linux
Subject: Re: HELP: tape experts!!!! URGENT
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 17:59:56 -�700
Markus Kohler wrote:
(snip)
> I have written tar files onto the tape using "cat filename >
> /dev/nftape". When I had written everything I checked the status with
> "mt -f /dev/nftape status" and indeed the data must have been written,
> because there were only some 114 Meg left instead of the 400Meg before.
(snip)
> How can I get beyond this border line? Is there any way? I tried cat, dd
> etc. Nothing worked.
>
Get to the end of the tape, tell mt to move the tape to the
next block and then try to continue on.
I think the command is mt -f /dev/nftape fsr Check the man
page first.
You may lose one block of data, but hopefully you can work
around it
This is about the best that I can do.
Eric
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: This is Linux, not Windows, so why not superior flexibility AND
idiot-friendly?
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 14:14:17 GMT
Allan Olesen writes:
> Grep is the function that can search several files for a text string,
> right?
Wrong. Grep is a command that can search files or the standard input
for a regular expression.
> And Word97 docs (example used in another part of this thread) can be
> searched too, if you have Word97 installed.
I was suggesting to the person who said to write your own grep that he try
using it on Word documents.
--
John Hasler This posting is in the public domain.
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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: My partition choice
From: Ernst-Udo Wallenborn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 17 Jan 1999 17:49:36 +0100
> Ilya wrote:
> >
> > I'd like to know if this will work pretty well for a personal workstation
> > and if I can improve this setup in any way. Redhat 5.2, 9.1GB hard drive.
> >
> > So far, I am thinking about this partition setup. I will assume that the
> > real capacity is about 90% of the pre-formatted 9.1GB capacity.
> >
> > /swap 512 MB
> > /tmp 350 MB
> > /usr 4096 MB
> > /var 1648 MB
> > /home 1024 MB
> > / 512 MB
> > /proc 48 MB
In addition to what the other posters wrote (and i agree with most of
it) i'd like to state one more point: Having different partitions only
makes sense if there 's a good reason for it. A good reason might be
a fast local internal disk for /tmp in a network that has nfs. Another
good reason would be different physical disks. In your case neither
of these applies. As i see it, there is only one possible reason you
might want to have more than / and swap: One day RH5.3 will come out,
or you'll want to give debian a try or you'd like to go 2.2.* and test
it in parallel to your existing setup. Then you need to ask yourself:
What has to change in the upgrade, and what has to stay the same?
In my personal experience (SuSE 5.1->5.3 (currently) and 6.0 (planned))
this was always the biggest problem after upgrades: personal setups,
programs that ran within shell script wrappers, upgraded software,
specialized libraries, and hacks like that. And based on this experience
i'd say: Make a 128MB swap, put /home on a separate partition (~4GB),
put /usr/local on a separate partition (~3GB), install every tar.gz
emacs-update, python-beta or teTeX-990117 in /usr/local/ only, and
give / all the rest. In general, imho, things that are likely to change
simultaneously or not at all, or whose expiration date you determine on
your own justify a partition of their own.
--
Ernst-Udo Wallenborn
Laboratorium fuer Physikalische Chemie
ETH Zuerich
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