Linux-Misc Digest #695, Volume #18 Tue, 19 Jan 99 21:13:10 EST
Contents:
Newbie ld.so question ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Linksys EtherFast 10/100 Card (Jeff Grossman)
Re: CPU/mobo temperature monitors? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
AWESOME WEB HOSTING! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: internet phone <and or video>(or compatible software) for linux? (Jean-Francois
MOINE)
Re: using xanim from netscape (Joshua Levi Baker-LePain)
Re: Beowulf Anyone? ("aallen")
Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (Paul Martin)
Spontaneous shutdown on a GW 9100 Laptop running Linux ("Sunil P. Khatri")
Re: WP8 equations<->MSWord? (Jon 'tex' Boone)
Re: Did Schmalensee write his written testimony? (Toon Moene)
mp3 decoder... (giangy)
E-Mail Server on Linux, Clients on Win '98 ("Robert Birch")
Bizzare CDROM over 2 days..??? Say WHAT??? (Daniel)
Re: Lynx won't connect remote files... (Nick Kew)
Re: Ensoniq AudioPCI - 1371 - MIDI Problems (Jean-Yves Levesque)
Re: KDE Desktop with Redhat Apollo (Marcos Silva)
Re: get your money back for Windows preinstalled ("Tom Emerson")
Re: UNIX - Who, What, Where? (Gary Momarison)
Re: Netscape Q: How to make it download in Binary (Mime types - arghhhhhhh!)
(Geoffrey Kenneth Holden)
Netscape Q: How to make it download in Binary (Mime types - arghhhhhhh!) (Jeremy
Mathers)
Re: KDE Desktop with Redhat Apollo (Raymond Doetjes)
Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (Mayor Of R'lyeh)
Re: Mounting Filesystems (Michael Schlenstedt)
Re: Does Linux support USB modems ? (Michael Schlenstedt)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Newbie ld.so question
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 22:09:46 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello,
I have a quick question. I run the following two commands on the exact
same C++ file:
1) g++ -c t.cc
ld -o libtest.so.0.1 -shared t.o
AND
2) g++ -o libtest.so.0.2 -shared t.cc
The result is the following, where the first library is actually smaller
than the second one.
2337 libtest.so.0.1
4515 libtest.so.0.2
Can anyone tell me why?
Thanks, Andy Biewer
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeff Grossman)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Linksys EtherFast 10/100 Card
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 00:33:47 GMT
Hello,
I have a Linksys EtherFast 10/100 card. How do I get Linux to
recognize the card? I am very new to Linux, so please be kind.
Thanks,
Jeff
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Jeff Grossman ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CPU/mobo temperature monitors?
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 18:10:45 GMT
: Look for "Linux System Hardware Monitoring" in
: http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/hardware.html
Thank you! It had exactly what I was looking for..
Aaron
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Subject: AWESOME WEB HOSTING!
Date: Tuesday, 19 Jan 1999 16:03:48 -0600
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From: Jean-Francois MOINE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: internet phone <and or video>(or compatible software) for linux?
Date: 19 Jan 1999 09:22:24 +0100
>>>>> "gaikokujin" == gaikokujin kyofusho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a skrive:
gaikokujin> Hi, i was wondering if there is a program out there for linux that is
like
gaikokujin> internet phone or any of the conference programs out there for
windows? That
gaikokujin> is i have some friends who have the hardware and run windows but i
need some
gaikokujin> software that would be compatable with any of the major inet vid
gaikokujin> conferenceing (or internet phone) apps for windows. any suggestions
would be
gaikokujin> greatly appricated!
Here are some of my links:
- <http://www.voxilla.org/>
- <http://www-mice.cs.ucl.ac.uk/multimedia/projects/mice/>
- <http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/glone/projects/ipt/>
- <http://members.iworld.net/soonjp/vidconf.html>
- <http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~hgs/sip/>
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From: Joshua Levi Baker-LePain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: using xanim from netscape
Date: 20 Jan 1999 00:06:30 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Netscape: 4.5
> xanim 2.70.7
> Trying to use xanim to view .mov files.
> I get the following error message:
> Vido Codec: Radius Cinepak not yher supported (E18)
> No support for this Codec please read the file
> "cinepak.readme"
> Notice video is present but not yet supported.
> Now if I download the *.mov file and from the command line:
> $ xanim home.mov
> It works fine.
>From the sounds of it, you may have two versions of xanim installed. The
rpm'd version that ships with RedHat 5.2 does not support the cinepak codec.
Type 'which xanim' at the command line to find the executable that seems to
support the codec. Then point Netscape directly to that executable via
Edit->Preferences->Navigator->Applications and then finding the MIME type
for .mov's.
HTH
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Joshua Baker-LePain
Department of Biomedical Engineering
Duke University
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From: "aallen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Beowulf Anyone?
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 00:06:46 GMT
Another couple of good links at CalTech:
http://oscar.cacr.caltech.edu/Hrothgar/
http://www.cacr.caltech.edu/beowulf/tutorial/tutorial.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Martin)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: 19 Jan 1999 15:32:41 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Mayor Of R'lyeh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Bzzzzt! Possibly a murder rate about 300 times the rate in any
>>European nation? And I'm talking per capita, not in total.
>
>Are you sure? Get the statistics broken down by cause of death
>sometime. The US figure includes suicides while the Europeans do not.
Homicide figures (excluding suicide) among males aged 15-24, per 100000:
Austria: 0.4
Japan: 0.6
England and Wales: 1.0
France: 1.3
USA: 36.8
Even members of the safest demographic group in the US, women in their
sixties, are more than twice as likely to be murdered as members of the most
risky group in Europe (French males 15-24).
You are almost as wrong as you are off-topic, although you are right to say
that the difference is only about 30 to 50 times rather than 300 times.
Paul
--
This is not a displacement activity.
Paul Martin, Nuffield College, Oxford, OX1 1NF [01865] (2)78965
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://users.ox.ac.uk/~jo95017
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From: "Sunil P. Khatri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Spontaneous shutdown on a GW 9100 Laptop running Linux
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 09:09:45 -0800
Folks,
I have been using my laptop heavily lately (>18 hours a day). In the
last 2 days, it has spontaneously shut down 3 times. It is as if I had
powered down the machine via the power switch.
Does anyone have suggestions as to how to ensure this does not happen?
I am afraid that one of these spontaneous shutdown may fry my hard
drive.
Here are my machine details:
Model : Gateway 2000, Solo 9100
Memory : 108M
OS : Linux 2.0.30
APM : Installed.
Display: 1078x768 TFT
Any suggestions appreciated. Please reply to
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
or post to the newsgroup..
Thanks
Sunil P Khatri
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From: Jon 'tex' Boone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WP8 equations<->MSWord?
Date: 19 Jan 1999 13:28:00 -0500
Glen Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Unless they use Tex :-)
What, exactly, are they using me for?
Perhaps you meant "Unless they use TeX" :-)
And, you might as well throw in LaTeX while you're at it.
--
==================================================
Jon 'tex' Boone Senior Network Engineer
ISC Networking University of Pennsylvania
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (215) 898-2477
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From: Toon Moene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: Did Schmalensee write his written testimony?
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 23:53:05 +0100
John De Hoog wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] said,
> > Is it possible by the comparison of the styles of all involved ( Murray,
> >Neukom etc....) to detect if the Written testimony was written by one of
> >them or by Schmalensee?
> > Any opinions?
> No, but I have a question. What does this have to do with Linux?
I wouldn't know, but it's Microsofts lawyers that try to make the
connection to Linux all the time.
--
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Saturnushof 14, 3738 XG Maartensdijk, The Netherlands
Phone: +31 346 214290; Fax: +31 346 214286
g77 Support: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; egcs: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: giangy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: mp3 decoder...
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 01:22:00 +0100
I'm looking for an mp3 decoder... to make wav files out fo mp3s...
command line would ge great!! so I can make scripts
thanx
gianluca
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From: "Robert Birch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: E-Mail Server on Linux, Clients on Win '98
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 23:48:58 GMT
I want to set up an email server on linux (Red Hat 5.2) with client software
running on Win 98 (Either Outlook or Outlook Express).
I would like to keep the mail on the server.
I am used to doing this with MS Exchange, but am rather new to the Linux
environment.
Can this be done?? What server package is best suited for this??
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks,
Robert Birch
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From: Daniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Bizzare CDROM over 2 days..??? Say WHAT???
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 16:14:47 -0800
I have a very strange CDROM glitch I cannot figure out...
I used to have RH 5.2 installed and via the install was using
an autoprobe to install the CDROM(an old Panasonic...sbpcd)
things worked fine...then when I changed my loadlin.bat to
auto install the passed CD parameters...it STILL worked fine...
HOWEVER...and this is what gets me...
The NEXT day...the CD would NOT boot....either with autoprobe or
with direct parameters...passed...
Eventually I got so irritated that I have removed the entire RH
install and went with SuSe 5.3...again everything works fine..
the FIRST day...but after being off all night...and rebooted
it will AGAIN not find the CDROM with autoprobe or with
direct parameters passed...
If I boot Windows FIRST and then (which loads my CDROM)...and then
exit to DOS and then run my linux bat...it loads fine...
I know this is probably a BIOS prob...but I can't find anything
in my BIOS setup that anything to do with the CDROM...
Is my BIOS saving the connection address from a successful CDROM
install and then losing it after it is being turned off for a
period of time...???
This has me stumped....like I said it works if I boot windows fir..
st and then linux....but that is an added step that I don't like to do
and besides I'm compulsive...and NEED to know why this is happening..:)
Any clues would be appreciated..
Also...I am SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO....close to getting my Wacom artpad to
work...as a second device...with my mouse a ps2.
I load the wacom86.so module fine in my XF86Config file...
but it stops cold shortly after loading that module...and
gets to WacomType...or something...
If ANYONE has a wacom and a mouse working PLEASE...let me know the
details..of install...I really want to use it in GIMP...
Thanks...
Daniel
--
A bird in the bush usually has a friend in there with him.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nick Kew)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Lynx won't connect remote files...
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 17:52:28 -0200
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Hay) writes:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Colin McKinnon wrote:
>>My version of lynx doesn't understand that an IP address may have multiple
>>names
That's a very old Lynx (certainly not later than '95). Any reason
you don't upgrade?
> - it resolves the ip address then sends the request to the address -
>>not to the name.
Erm - that's a different issue. More precisely, Lynx (or any other general-
purpose browser from the past three years or so) makes a TCP connection to
an IP address but sends an HTTP request which does include the hostname.
> This is standard in http 1.0 where the client doesn't tell the client
> the name of the host it is requesting the file from.
Pardon??
The Host header is technically optional in HTTP/1.0, but in practice
is better supported than much that is *required*.
> You should be able to
> work around this in most cases by specifying a proxy server. Proxy
> servers are always requested to serve the full URL even in http 1.0
Erm - what is your browser going to tell the proxy that it won't tell
the server? And what exactly in HTTP/1.0 are you talking about?
--
Nick Kew
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jean-Yves Levesque)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Ensoniq AudioPCI - 1371 - MIDI Problems
Date: 19 Jan 1999 17:18:00 GMT
No ansewer from comp.os.linux.hardware. Trying here.
Please Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>A few questions:
>
>1- I have a problem playing MIDI files with the sound card. From what
> I could read, there is no MIDI capability under Linux. I tried to
> play MIDI files under kmidi (KDE) but I always get the following message.
>
> 'can't open /dev/dsp device'
>
> Is there any idead on if this can be fixed somehow?
>
>2 - Also, I do have a second card (MPU-401, Roland). Is there any way
> I can have two sound card working without having the re-build the kernel?
> I would like to play midi through my Roland sound card but it is not
> recognized by the system.
>
>3 - The sound module (es1371) is loaded as a module. However, I do not see
> anything under /dev/sndstat. Is it right?
>
>Thanks,
>
>System: RedHat 5.2
> KDE 1.1 alpha
>
--
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P.O. Box 3511, Station C Ottawa, Canada K1Y 4H7
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From: Marcos Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KDE Desktop with Redhat Apollo
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 08:30:34 -0200
I'm using kde in a RH 5.2. I had to rebuild the rpm package with qt-1.33
installed.
But now I'm having problems in upgrade with new version, because I have to
compile the source code and when I run ./configure it doesn't find the qt
(headers and libraries).
cd wrote:
> Has anybody had any experience with KDE and RedHat Apollo ( Linux RH 5.2) ?
>
> I've got a few KDE apps here but they seem to be KDE dependent ..... hmmm,
> so why'd they package them with Apollo ...
--
Marcos Ferreira da Silva
Centrio Universitario do Triangulo
Uberlandia - MG
Brazil
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From: "Tom Emerson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: get your money back for Windows preinstalled
Date: 19 Jan 1999 23:56:27 GMT
There's also one other factor overlooked so far in this thread, but
(disclaimers first) IANALE (either), and I haven't read the full EULA for
some time now. But, one thing I do remember from a variety of other
contracts is that they usually include a clause to the effect of "if any
one clause of this contract is found to be invalid or unenforceable by law,
then that clause shall be treated as non-existant. However, the invalidity
of any clause shall not invalidate remaining clauses" Which, taken to the
extreme, means you can say what you damn well bloody please in the
contract, and if the consumer falls for it, GREAT, you pulled the wool on
them; if they get wise, then you deal with it as if that clause were never
in the contract.
Darryl Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in article
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> Arthur wrote:
>
> >
> > You're right that copyright law seems to take a lot of the
> > fun out of it, unless you could argue that the breach of
> > contract now makes it a work made for hire, or somehow gives
> > you ownership rights that supercede the copyright. Seems
> > quite a stretch though. Still, you probably could do a few
> > things, like reverse engineer, benchmark, or maybe run
> > multiple instances over a network.
> >
>
> I doubt that such activity as making multiple copies for your own
> amusement, and potentual damage to Microsoft, would be
> tolerated by the courts, even in a legally ambiguous case as
> this.
>
> I would bet that the courts would look at the intent of the
> license agreement, and also at agreements between Microsoft
> and Toshiba as their agent. Looking through copyright rose-
> colored glasses, clearly (!) Microsoft prohibits you from using
> their software without first giving up your right of Free Speech
> to benchmark it, or creating your own 'compatible' version.
>
> It would be an interesting court case for someone to challenge
> the licensing clause that says you can't publish performance
> information about a given software product without written
> authorization from the vendor. Maybe someone like Larry
> Ellison will get a bug up his butt to challenge this issue in court.
>
>
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From: Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.unix,comp.os.unix.misc,comp.unix,comp.unix.i386
Subject: Re: UNIX - Who, What, Where?
Date: 19 Jan 1999 16:57:25 -0800
"StressedOut" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I have been reading about UNIX and Linux recently and have set up a practice
> RHL machine. I see many suggestions that I should obtain Linux (or another
> variant) because it's free, it's easy, etc., etc., etc. I just came across
> another article saying, "Linux is great because its free and it uses similar
> command and directory structures as other flavors ...". Similar to what,
> exactly?
>
> I am wondering what the heck "UNIX" is. I mean _real_, unadulterated,
> up-to-date, commercial grade, UNIX - THE Operating System.
A company owns "UNIX", but AFAIK only sells specifications and licences
to use the UNIX brand. Two OSes can be very different and still meet
the spec.
>
> Is there any advantage to using UNIX vs Linux?
UNIX, in practice, comes well integrated with HW & SW systems which
tend to have their bugs and weak-points worked out better. More
"polished" some have said. But Linux has advantages too.
>
> How much is it on average, and how and where might one "get" it?
Don't know. Sorta comes with expensive HW. HP, SGI, Sun, others?
> What machines will it run on?
HP, SGI, Sun, others?
>
> Can I get an x86 version?
Not that I'm aware.
More info: http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/unix-like.html
--
Look for Linux info at http://www.dejanews.com/home_ps.shtml and in
Gary's Encyclopedia at http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/index.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Geoffrey Kenneth Holden)
Subject: Re: Netscape Q: How to make it download in Binary (Mime types - arghhhhhhh!)
Date: 20 Jan 1999 00:43:52 GMT
Jeremy Mathers ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: That said, I want to be able to download RPM's through Netscape and
: have it transferred in Binary mode. If I click on a .tar.gz file, it
: immediately pops up a file-save dialog and this is good. When I click
: on an RPM, it displays binary garbage onscreen. This tells me that
: if I try to save the file, the result will be garbage (it will transfer
: in ASCII mode).
: And, dear God, why can't there be a simple "Download this file in
: Binary mode, dammnit!" option like there is in FTP???
When you find the link you want, hold shift while you click it. Problem
solved.
--
Geoff/Upsilon
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.xoom.com/DeepThought
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeremy Mathers)
Subject: Netscape Q: How to make it download in Binary (Mime types - arghhhhhhh!)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 00:00:24 GMT
First of all - whoever invented the concept of Mime types ought to be shot!
It has caused me nothing but grief over the years.
That said, I want to be able to download RPM's through Netscape and
have it transferred in Binary mode. If I click on a .tar.gz file, it
immediately pops up a file-save dialog and this is good. When I click
on an RPM, it displays binary garbage onscreen. This tells me that
if I try to save the file, the result will be garbage (it will transfer
in ASCII mode).
I tried (tried very hard, in fact) adding a MIME type through the
Preferences menu - put in rpm as the file extension, tried a million
different things for the MIME type - unfortunately, it still shows the
RPM file onscreen (instead of just popping up a file save dialog).
When I add my own mime type, it creates files in my home dir called
.mime-types and .mailcap - and these files look good. However,
despite all efforts (clearing the cache every single time), it refuses
to recognize .rpm as a "special" file extension.
I have searched the system high and low for the mime-types file -
tried editing one or two of them, but to no avail.
Where does Netscape keep its ideas of what the mime types are?
And, dear God, why can't there be a simple "Download this file in
Binary mode, dammnit!" option like there is in FTP???
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From: Raymond Doetjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KDE Desktop with Redhat Apollo
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 20:51:20 +0100
You can install the kde rpm's on RH without a problem.
I even got KDE working on RH5.1 and 5.2 on a Alpha. (And if this is possible
intel is no problem at all).
Raymond
cd wrote:
> Has anybody had any experience with KDE and RedHat Apollo ( Linux RH 5.2) ?
>
> I've got a few KDE apps here but they seem to be KDE dependent ..... hmmm,
> so why'd they package them with Apollo ...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mayor Of R'lyeh)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 15:21:02 GMT
On 19 Jan 1999 00:55:41 -0800, Michael Powe
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> chose to bless us all with this bit of
wisdom:
>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>Hash: SHA1
>
>>>>>> "Mayor" == Mayor Of R'lyeh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Mayor> On 18 Jan 1999 11:51:42 +0100, David Kastrup
> Mayor> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> chose to
> Mayor> bless us all with this bit of wisdom:
>
> Mayor> I didn't find anything like this on their site. I found
> Mayor> some articles against the Kyoto Protocols and an urging of
> Mayor> using local and private means to control pollution. I found
>
>IOW, no pollution controls. Doh!
Local and private does not mean none.
>
> >> in the cramped states of Europe people actually thing the
> >> freedom to choose your education yourself
>
> Mayor> Being able to choose your own education is largely what the
> Mayor> voucher movement is all about. In many areas of the US the
> Mayor> teacher unions run control the schools. They run them to
> Mayor> benefit themselves and education comes in a distant second
> Mayor> on their list of priorities. Vouchers would allow more
> Mayor> parents to pick better schools for their children.
>
>Vouchers are about exclusivity -- keeping the "undesirables" out.
Hooey! There are plenty of private schools that take poor kids. There
are even some private schools in the inner cities that take nothing
but those you have labelled as "undesirables".
>
> >> Unfortunately, not all freedoms can be realized at all times.
> >> The U.S. idea of freedom means that everybody ought to fight
> >> all the way as much for himself as possible, just like the
> >> ideals in the Wild West were.
>
> Mayor> The US idea of freedom is that one should be left alone so
>
>This decidedly is <not> the "US idea of freedom" and is an idea
>rejected routinely at the polls.
Since when? When has a nanny state initiative been voted in by the
people? Answer- never! They are always imposed by judicial fiat or
through bureaucratic means. There's a growng dissatisfaction with such
heavy handedness in the land.
>
> Mayor> long as he is causing no harm to others. I'm not sure where
> Mayor> you got the idea that Americans live to fight each
> Mayor> other. Perhaps you've watched one too many spaghetti
> Mayor> westerns. FYI the crime rate was lower in the 'Wild West'
>
>Bzzzzt! Possibly a murder rate about 300 times the rate in any
>European nation? And I'm talking per capita, not in total.
Are you sure? Get the statistics broken down by cause of death
sometime. The US figure includes suicides while the Europeans do not.
>
> Mayor> Over here public education is a joke in many areas. Thats
> Mayor> why you see the movement to get it some competition. Its
> Mayor> not that people are against education. Its that the current
> Mayor> product is so shoddy that the system needs a major
> Mayor> overhaul. We are paying the price for 20 years of
> Mayor> sef-esteem curriculum and rain-forest math. Things are
> Mayor> starting to turn around.
>
>Spoken like a true bourgeois. Another one of those "born on third
>base and thinks he hit a triple" wunderkinds.
That's funny. I seem to remember having to work two jobs to put myself
through school. I seem to remember eating nothing but Ramen noodles
and pork n beans during the Carter years when all the work I could
find was temporary and low paying. I seem to remember having to decide
did I want to live indoors or get the car fixed more than a few times.
If that was 'born on third base' I'd sure hate to see first base cause
third base looked like rock bottom to me.
Why don't you come clean and tell us just what your position in the
teacher's union is?
>
> Mayor> The nanny state is a recent (largely post WWII)
> Mayor> invention. It is not at all what civilization is about.
>
>At least we agree that the present status of the US does not represent
>"progress" over our past, and that we are not a "civilized" nation.
Wrong on both counts.
>
"That is not dead which can eternal lie,
And with strange aeons even death may die."
- Abdul Alhazred, Necronomicon
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Schlenstedt)
Subject: Re: Mounting Filesystems
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 11:32:43 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Am Sun, 17 Jan 1999 19:50:40 +0000, schrieb Matt Cobley:
>Hi,
> I've got a box running RedHat 5.2 and Win95. I can mount the Win95
>drive and write to it as root, but I can only read as any other user. Is
>there a way I can give only certain users (e.g. me) read/write access to
>this vfat drive? The reason being that I use Pine on both OS's and it
>would save a hell of a lot of hassle if I could point my saved message
>folders at the same place...
>
> Matt
>
Add this line to your /etc/fstab-File:
/dev/sda1 /win vfat rw,noauto,user 0 0
Then you can mount your Windows-partition with "mount /win/"
and you will have write-access as a normal user, too.
CU
Schlenn
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Schlenstedt)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Does Linux support USB modems ?
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 11:33:32 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Am Sun, 17 Jan 1999 23:59:35 +0800, schrieb Y W Wong:
>If Linux support USB modems, how many modems support
>simultaneously ?
>
>Y W Wong
>
AFAIK Linux does not support USB yet.
CU
Schlenn
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