Linux-Misc Digest #702, Volume #18 Wed, 20 Jan 99 12:13:08 EST
Contents:
Re: qedit clone in linux?? (William Burrow)
Re: Agent under WINE: HELP ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux keyboard? (For emacs use) (Ilya)
Xfstt - how ? please help ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: WOW LotusNotes on Linux (Ed Young)
Re: A newbie versus "vi" (David Augros)
Re: A newbie versus "vi" (Declan)
Re: K6-400 "kernel paging request" errors (Stephen Jenuth)
Re: i need to crack one icq password... HELP (Mark Stolz)
Re: What time is it? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [ newsgroups and moderation ] (Loose Nut)
Re: Linux keyboard? (For emacs use) (Sven Utcke)
Re: How to get rid of LILO? (Kaustav Bhattacharya)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Subject: Re: qedit clone in linux??
Date: 20 Jan 1999 03:55:40 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 18 Jan 1999 20:34:12 GMT,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>i'm looking for a simple editor with a strong macro language like qedit or
>better. emacs doesn't qualify because it's so damn huge!p please advise.
vi is nice, but if you don't like that, investigate the likes of joe and
so on.
--
William Burrow -- New Brunswick, Canada o
Copyright 1999 William Burrow ~ /\
~ ()>()
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Agent under WINE: HELP
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 03:12:08 GMT
> Agent uses the current directory to store the ini file and unless you
> set up the home directory in the ini file uses the current directory
> for data files. Move the ini and data files to $HOME/c/Agent and
> then start agent with that directory as the current directory. I have
> an alias agent="cd /usr/local/c/agent; wine agent".
>
> HTH
> Norman
>
That seems to have done the trick... with that alias snugly in .bashrc, you
think I can simply type agent and add it to the menus appropriately in my
windows manager rc?
Maybe you can help with my other problem...clear windows...
All windows within Agent (not Agent itself) are clear, no background...the
error that keeps coming up everytime a window is launched is...
err:msg:DispatchMessage16 BeginPaint not called on WM_PAINT for hwnd 15b4!
where 15b4! changes depending upon the type of window launched...maybe there
is not a specific file in the system directory?
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From: Ilya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux keyboard? (For emacs use)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.misc,comp.emacs,comp.editors
Date: 19 Jan 1999 20:43:22 +0800
In comp.editors David A. Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Jan 1999 06:27:00 GMT, Joseph H Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> speaketh saying:
> >In article <36a42292.0@calwebnnrp>, Ilya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>I am interested in a "soft-touch" keyboard for a Linux workstation that has
> >>one Control key on the home row - by the "A" key or "Caps lock" key, instead
> >>of 2 Control keys on the bottom like on Windows keyboards. I would like to
> >>hear someone recommend a keyboard with these specifications.
> >
> >Remap the caps-lock key into the Ctrl key. Take a look at 'loadmap' and
> >/usr/lib/kbd/keytables/emacs.map
> As well as modmap for X11.
I truly appreciate your suggestions, but I'd rather get a real workstation
keyboard like the ones that Sun, HP, DEC and the rest of them sell, and not
mess with re-mapping.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Xfstt - how ? please help
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 16:07:43 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It may be a stupid question, but how can I get the xfstt true font server to run
with SuSE 5.3 ? I just don't manage it. Last time I erroneously downloaded a
RedHat version that did miss some link files. What's the correct way ? I know
what to do after install. But just the install is so hard for beginners ...
Regards, Eggert
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Answers please in this newsgroup!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Ed Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WOW LotusNotes on Linux
Date: 20 Jan 1999 03:29:46 GMT
This is for LotusNotes Server. How can I get a LotusNotes client working in
Linux? Is the client being ported also (hope, hope, hope)???
Raymond Doetjes wrote:
>
> IBM has made a 360 turn. After 1 year of saying no to porting LotusNotes
> to Linux they finally agreed and will have a port available before the
> end of this year.
>
> They calculate the licence fee's exaclty as all the other Unix
> platforms.
> Why should people buy NT now that the best Workgroup and mailsoftware is
> avalable on Linux???
>
> Raymond
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From: David Augros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: A newbie versus "vi"
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 00:13:20 -0500
have you never heard of emacs?
emacs is not just an editor, it is an Operating System.
in truth, emacs is a way of life.
emacs is big.
emacs is powerful.
emacs takes forever to load.
but once it's loaded, you don't have to load anything else.
because emacs does EVERYTHING!
use emacs.
love emacs.
be emacs.
btw, emacs is available for every *NIX platform, and even NT.
it is sure to be on your installation CD, if not on your HD already.
type 'emacs' wherever you see the $ sign.
you will not be disappointed.
you will bless the day you met emacs.
you will use vi when you have to, but in the throws of passion, you will say...
ohh emacs!!!!
and vi will crash in a huff.
HARHAR, but it is true.
dave
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From: Declan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: A newbie versus "vi"
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 00:06:49 -0500
i unstood that the vi implementation in Linux is actually vim. You can have a
startup file in your home directory (.vimrc or something). In it you can set up
all sorts of nice stuff (like the GUI you are talking about). There are several
web sites that people have doonated their setup file to. Just do a little
search on 'vim' and you should find something.
-dec
On Wed, 20 Jan 1999, Kelly and Sandy wrote:
>Dear Linux Users, A newbie versus "vi"
> --------------------
>
>
>
> I am a newbie again. Unix, this time.
>
>
> I am writing from my minimal emergency NT installation. (I have
>recently decided to once an for all jettison MS, and in the process have
>started to get interested in Linux.)
>
>
> I installed Red Hat 5.2 on my x86 PC last week. I logged in as
>root, typed startx, and lo, verily, XWindows started up. Wonderful.
>
>
> Now, the last Unix I used was at college, at Middlesex University to
>be precise. (We had no time there to learn anything about Unix or
>anything else -- we were too busy handing in assignments and getting our
>names ticked off registers.)
>
>
> I used Silicon Graphics' Unix there, to edit C code for an OpenGL
>project to visualize three-body problems. (Sounds fancy, but really it
>was getting vast asteroid fields to attack the Earth at 20 kilometres a
>second. It was quite amazing to watch, and our moon is a mysterious
>influence. I have the strongest hunch we'll only find life on planets
>with an Earth-moon setup like ours. But I digress!)
>
>
> What made me able to hand in the assignment on time was the Silicon
>Graphics' beautiful "vi" editor. I think it was called "vi". Anyway,
>it was fully GUI with pull-down menus with all sorts of menu-items
>goodies. Like "auto-indent" toggle and "pretty-print" and "code
>completion...". It was really lovely.
>
>
> Well, of course, I was expecting the same level of wonderment when I
>typed "vi" in Linux. But instead I got this white-on-black VDU-type
>editor, no help, no menus, no indication of being in command mode ...
>and had to spend half an hour "finding the light switch" by reading
>through "Linux in a Nutshell" (by Jessica Perry Hekman, O'Reilly ISBN
>1-56592-167-4) Chapter 8, The vi Editor.
>
>
> An unpleasant newbie experience.
>
>
> "And what was a newbie doing trying to use vi?" you may be
>wondering. Well, I was trying to edit .bashrc, to make "ls" listing
>come up in colours and set the defaults. This was to give me _some_
>sense of achievement and control, after the initial installation, in
>other words. Now, from the "Official Red Hat Linux Operating System
>Installation Guide" (that's in the blue and red-hatted startup box)
>under the Red Hat Linux Installation Support FAQ chapter, page 326:
>
>
>
> E.7.3 Getting colors with ls
> -----------------------------
>
> Question
>
> How come I don't see colors when I run ls? When I am using my
> old Linux, the file names all have different colors.
>
> Answer
>
> In order to allow the color option you must edit .bashrc. This
> line must be placed in the file:
>
> alias ls='ls --color=auto'
>
>
>
> So the first time I tried "vi" then, I created five "vi" processes,
>which took another half hour to kill off. More Linux in a Nutshell,
>this time the ps (list processes) [p 87] and kill (processes) [p 63]
>commands. All this was quite a shock, discovering how dangerously
>primitive and "VDU"-ish the standard editor is in Linux. Configuring
>everything (not least internet access) and getting it all to work for me
>is too important and delicate a job to start using an editor that's it's
>_own_problem_ on top of everything else!
>
>
> Therefore I made a mental note to write off a letter, as I am doing
>now, to the Linux newsgroups to find out about using an alternative
>easy-to-use pull-down-menu editor somehow.
>
>
> So, reiterating: can I get a GUI editor by invoking some other
>command, or the right vi -switches or is it something I have to download
>off the web?
>
>
>With Kind Regards,
>
>
>
>
>Sandy
>
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From: Stephen Jenuth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: K6-400 "kernel paging request" errors
Crossposted-To:
linux.dev.kernel,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 15:10:47 GMT
In comp.os.linux.hardware David R. Bergstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I have run into these problems on a k6 266, and a k6 300. In both cases
I got rid of the systems because they seemed to be too much work to fix.
When they crashed they tended to leave the mounted file systems in a bit
of disarray.
On the k6 266, disabling the internal cache did the trick. Nothing else
seemed to work. (Disabling the internal cache was done in the include/asm/bugs.h).
In this case, I had a intel pentium 233mmx installed and things have worked
famously thereafter (it cost me $ 35 CDN or so extra). Curiously the system
worked well with windoze.
On the k6 300, I just returned the system to the vendor. I suppose I should
have tried various different timings for the ram, but I lost patience. This
system had some problems with windoze.
It may be something related to cooling. Things seemed to work OK for a time
and then all hell broke loose.
On the other hand, I have a k6-2/300 which works flawlessly with linux.
: If it helps at all, I am also seeing similar paging request errors under
: linux 2.0.36 with an AMD K6-200 and 128MB RAM. I will need to change
: my syslog.conf to obtain a dump next time it happens (will post).
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:>
:> Suffering from an unstable system.
:> K6-400 (stepping 12), Motherboard FIC PA-2013 (VIA MP3),
:> 256 MB Ram (PC-100), (the board allows to downclock the RAM to 66 Mhz, what I
:> did),
:> AGP Matrox G200, 2 SCSI-Controller, EATA-DPT (only Disks)
:> and ncr53c825 (DDS-3, CDROM ).
:> RedHat 5.2 Kernel 2.0.36 and I tried as well all 2.2.0-preXX. the last
:> 2.2.0-pre7ac2.
:> The system keeps chrashing.
:>
:> I am trying to fix the system now since christmas. Getting frustrated....
:>
:> Any ideas, suggestions??
:>
:> Thanks in advance
:>
:> Mario Dix
:>
:> This is from 2.0.36:
:>
:> Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address e8f7ce98
:> current->tss.cr3 = 083ac000, %cr3 = 083ac000
:> *pde = 00000000
:> Oops: 0000
:> CPU: 0
:> EIP: 0010:[<00125af0>]
:> EFLAGS: 00010202
:> eax: 28f7ce98 ebx: 08c30814 ecx: 00000400 edx: 00000025
:> esi: 00000814 edi: 00067831 ebp: 00000400 esp: 0313de68
:> ds: 0018 es: 0018 fs: 002b gs: 002b ss: 0018
:> Process tar (pid: 3707, process nr: 53, stackpage=0313d000)
:> Stack: 08c3f398 00067831 00000814 00000002 00000000 00000025 0012702d 00000814
:> 00067831 00000400 0313df18 00002484 00000000 0dfddf00 00067831 00000814
:> 00000100 08c3f498 036c0814 00000000 08c3f498 08c3f418 036cf918 0313df14
:> Call Trace: [<0012702d>] [<001274af>] [<0011d25c>] [<0011d341>] [<0011d6b4>]
:> [<00123c70>] [<0010a941
:> >]
:> Code: 39 38 75 24 66 39 58 04 75 1e 39 68 20 74 22 56 e8 17 f9 ff
:> Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address e8f7ce98
:> current->tss.cr3 = 041b8000, %cr3 = 041b8000
:> *pde = 00000000
:> Oops: 0000
:> CPU: 0
:> EIP: 0010:[<00125af0>]
:> EFLAGS: 00010202
:> eax: 28f7ce98 ebx: 00080814 ecx: 00000814 edx: 00000025
:> esi: 00000814 edi: 00086831 ebp: 00000400 esp: 0313dddc
:> ds: 0018 es: 0018 fs: 002b gs: 002b ss: 0018
:> Process tar (pid: 3708, process nr: 53, stackpage=0313d000)
:> Stack: 00086831 03130814 00000400 00086831 08975818 00000025 00126352 00000814
:> 00086831 00000400 00086831 0313def4 001d25a0 00086831 00000001 00154cec
:> 00000814 00086831 00000400 00000000 00086831 00000001 0df16b00 00000400
:> Call Trace: [<00126352>] [<00154cec>] [<0015534c>] [<001555d5>] [<00153905>]
:> [<00156845>] [<0012c414
:> >]
:> [<0011d7f2>] [<00123deb>] [<0010a941>]
:> Code: 39 38 75 24 66 39 58 04 75 1e 39 68 20 74 22 56 e8 17 f9 ff
:> general protection: 0000
:> CPU: 0
:> EIP: 0010:[<00125af0>]
:> EFLAGS: 00013286
:> eax: 88f0e018 ebx: 0dbf0811 ecx: 00000400 edx: 0000008c
:> esi: 00000811 edi: 002f889d ebp: 00000400 esp: 0ee6be8c
:> ds: 0018 es: 0018 fs: 002b gs: 002b ss: 0018
:> Process X (pid: 384, process nr: 4, stackpage=0ee6b000)
:> Stack: 0dbff898 002f889d 00000811 00000001 00000000 0000008c 0012702d 00000811
:> 002f889d 00000400 0ee6bf3c 00000004 00000000 0dfdc800 002f889d 00000811
:> 00000100 0dbff918 00000811 00000000 0dbff918 0015638b 0df10400 0ee6bf38
:> Call Trace: [<0012702d>] [<0015638b>] [<001274af>] [<0011d83e>] [<0011d91d>]
:> [<00123c70>] [<0010a941
:> >]
:> Code: 39 38 75 24 66 39 58 04 75 1e 39 68 20 74 22 56 e8 17 f9 ff
:> general protection: 0000
:> CPU: 0
:> EIP: 0010:[<00125af0>]
:> EFLAGS: 00010286
:> eax: 88f0e018 ebx: 06850811 ecx: 00000400 edx: 0000008c
:> esi: 00000811 edi: 0000689d ebp: 00000400 esp: 04c02e60
:> ds: 0018 es: 0018 fs: 002b gs: 002b ss: 0018
:> Process m4 (pid: 3762, process nr: 47, stackpage=04c02000)
:> Stack: 06851b18 0000689d 00000811 00000001 00000000 0000008c 0012702d 00000811
:> 0000689d 00000400 04c02f10 00000044 00000000 0e321c00 0000689d 00000811
:> 00000100 06851898 06850811 00000000 06851898 00154ee1 06851518 04c02f0c
:> Call Trace: [<0012702d>] [<00154ee1>] [<001274af>] [<0011db3f>] [<0011dc39>]
:> [<0011b1f7>] [<0011b0f4
:> >]
:> [<00111b48>] [<00111a2c>] [<0011414e>] [<0010aaa4>]
:> Code: 39 38 75 24 66 39 58 04 75 1e 39 68 20 74 22 56 e8 17 f9 ff
Best regards,
Stephen Jenuth
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.
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From: Mark Stolz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: i need to crack one icq password... HELP
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 16:11:15 +0000
Troy Davidson wrote:
>
> No. To make sure he doesn't jump off the cliff with all of the other lemmings!
Maybe they (cracker-wannabe-lemming and target-lemming) are in
disagreement over
which gets to jump off the cliff with that cute little cookie of a
lemming-ette.
Cracker-wannabe probably wants to intercept the super-secret love
notes...or
send a forged nasty-gram...
Apologies for the bandwidth suck, but it's been such a bad day that this
is
really kind of cathartic (and the most fun I've had since rolling out of
bed).
>
> Mark Stolz wrote:
>
> > Winston wrote:
> > >
> > > I heard that to crack the password of an ICQ account, Linux must be used...
> > > I need help to do this cos I don't have such equipment. I need to crack the
> > > password of ICQ #23961492, user nic VAL.This is urgent... have to know what
> > > he is up to before real trouble sets in between us. Please help me!! Thanks
> > > a lot.
> >
> > Uh...yeah...like to head 'em off at the pass or something, right?
> >
> > --Mark
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: What time is it?
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 04:44:37 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Staffan H�m�l�) wrote:
> On 18 Jan 1999 07:17:08 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson) wrote:
>
> >I am stumped, running RH5.2, upgraded from RH5.1, the time is wrong. I
> >can reset the time fine, then when I reboot, changes didn't take effect.
> >Any help would be appreciated. (last time I booted into win98, time
> >was ok.) Oh, fujitsu Lifebook if that matters. Thanks all.
>
> Wrong timezone perhaps?
>
Setting the date just sets the system(software) clock. To keep the time
correct after rebooting, you need to set the bios(hardware) clock. Do this
with 'hwclock --systohc'
--
Dale Osowski
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Loose Nut)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: [ newsgroups and moderation ]
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 05:10:01 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 19 Jan 1999 09:54:39 -0800, Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>The real subject of this post is this: I noticed the crossposting
>to alt.linux & alt.os.linux and...
I fail to see what your post has to do with the original, (newsgroups
and moderation). I happen to be in alt.os.linux now, where your post
appears, so you must be either:
1) using alt.os.linux
or
2) crossposting
so...
>I'd like to know why anyone would want to use those newsgroups.
>Please summarize their differences from c.o.l.misc.
...apparently, you can answer your own question and supply that
summary for us.
As for crossposting, get a GOOD newsreader. Mine allows me to kill the
retrieval of messages already d/ld'd in other NG's. Hence, I am never
bothered by crossposts, cuz I don't get 'em : ) If I have done any
crossposting, it is due to a default setting in my newsreader, (hmm..
I should check on that).
>And does anyone know where one can find on the WWW the NG charters.
>IIRC, the last time I tried to find that info in the begginner's NG,
>it was a gargantuan article longer than I care to download.
Nope, sorry.
Loose Nut
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From: Sven Utcke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.misc,comp.emacs,comp.editors
Subject: Re: Linux keyboard? (For emacs use)
Date: 20 Jan 1999 14:53:16 +0100
Erik Naggum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> * [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Festus van Landingham)
> | Do emacs users not type captial letters or does emacs not support
> | capital letters?
>
> sometimes, I wonder how the human race survived this far, but it can't be
^
> that much longer before we're history.
>
> Emacs users don't need a caps lock key. they have much better
^
> ways to capitalize words, expressions, regions, whatever the need
> may be. also,
^
So why aren't you using any of these?
> I dispensed with case long ago, and of course Emacs helped in that
> process.
So I noticed. Strangely enough you still employ capital letters for
the words "I" and "Emacs". Or rather Emacs does, I guess :-)
Sven
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From: Kaustav Bhattacharya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to get rid of LILO?
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 14:40:27 +0000
Reply-To: k, dot, bhattacharya, at, bbc, dot, co, dot, uk
Ido's wrote:
>
> Frantisek Fuksa ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> All you needed to do is fdisk /mbr in windows
LOL, and how does he do this in windows if he can't get into windows?
:-)
Kozzey
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