Linux-Misc Digest #758, Volume #18 Mon, 25 Jan 99 18:13:10 EST
Contents:
Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (Jerry Lynn Kreps)
Re: Can't save bookmarks (Jim liedeka)
Re: Linux keyboard? (For emacs use) (Sven Utcke)
Corrupt passwd file ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: which distribution package do you recommend? (Todd Ostermeier)
Re: power management and cron tasks (Pas Moi)
Re: cpio truncating inode numbers (David E. Fox)
Re: Newbie Installation (Stephen Richard FREELAND)
Re: Antivirus ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Lilo boot disk (Buck)
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters (pdohert)
keeping linux filenames unmodified on 95 (Aaron Walker)
which windowing manager + java (Dawid Michalczyk)
Re: which distribution package do you recommend? (Eugene Strulyov)
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. ("Chris Snyder")
Re: No available PTY'S message when opening an xterm (BradyBear)
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. ("Chris Snyder")
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. ("Chris Snyder")
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. ("Chris Snyder")
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From: Jerry Lynn Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 10:42:27 -0600
Netnerd wrote:
> Because once the criminally insane programmers 'fix' the open source code
> they want to then distribute the 'fixed' version to others, viruses and all.
>
You really don't have a clue as to how Open Source operates, do you?
It is obvious you don't know how a virus is built or how it operates,
either.
> Thank God really valueable source code is not available to the public.
Valuable? Code that was born in the trash bins of Yale's computer
center?
That's not as funny the umpteenth time around, considering how high the
true cost of the M$ monoply is being revealed to be. What's really
scarey is when US warships "automated" by NT servers and workstations go
dead in the water and have to be towed back to port. In an emergency
situtation they, and the country they are defending, could be toast.
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From: Jim liedeka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can't save bookmarks
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 14:23:23 -0600
I managed to fix the problem by deleting everything in my .netscape directory
and starting over. There must have been something in a configuration file that
pointed to the root directory which my user account doesn't have privileges on.
This gives rise to a new philosophy, if it breaks, lobotomize it.
Jim
bserg wrote:
> I had the same problem with that version of netscape and the only thing that
> fixed it was switching to netscape 4.08.
>
> Jim liedeka wrote:
>
> > I am having a problem with Netscape 4.5. I recently began running my
> > PPP sessions from my user account (I was previously using root) on my RH
> > 5.2 box. I copied all the ~/.netscape files to my home directory,
> > changed ownership, and burned the cache files.
> >
> > Whenever I start up Netscape, after loading my home page and checking
> > mail, I get a window that says "Error saving bookmarks file" (or
> > something like that). This sounds like a permissions issue or a
> > corrupted file. However, I renamed my existing file so Netscape
> > wouldn't find it when I started it up. I still get the same error.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > Jim Liedeka
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From: Sven Utcke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.misc,comp.emacs,comp.editors
Subject: Re: Linux keyboard? (For emacs use)
Date: 25 Jan 1999 22:24:57 +0100
Erik Naggum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> * Sven Utcke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> | But you are Norwegian, aren't you?
>
> so? why _is_ this important to you? are you a nationalist?
Nope. But I always wondered and thought this would be as good a time
to ask as any. You got any problems with your nationality?
> | Hmm. Other than avoiding ambiguity, I fail to see the sense in that.
>
> and avoiding ambiguity is not an issue to you? amazing.
Erik, wasn't it you who critizised other people for "creative editing,
intended to make you look like an idiot"? You just did the same.
Sigh!
> | > I personally find 300 dpi laser printers too gross to really be
> | > legible with either serif or sans-serif fonts,
> |
> | You got a fine eye then. I can hardly tell the difference.
>
> not really. the fonts that we use were designed by very fine pens, and
> the quality of the lead types used to print them was also very good. so
> was the paper on which it was printed. with the advent of offset
> printing, the resolution went down somewhat, but Times was designed to be
> printed on low-quality newspaper that absorbed ink in an unfriendly way,
> so the high-quality types used before just came out ugly. so Times was
> designed to be maximally legible at 8 points on newspaper with these
> absorption qualities and the high cost of the paper itself was a very
> significant contributer to the type design: Times is 15% narrower than
> the fonts that were more popular at the time, thus enabling Times (the
> newspaper) to print more text on less paper of lower quality than before,
> which is a _significant_ technological achievement, but people should be
> aware of the history of Times when they want that font in 1200 dpi laser
> printers with high-quality, non-absorbing paper. it becomes _much_ too
> thin, because the paper _doesn't_ absord ink, anymore, and designing a
> Times that looks the same yet works on laser printers is no small feat.
So why does all the above make Times on a 300DPI-printer to gross to
be legible, while making it ok at 600DPI and great at 900DPI?
Maybe this discussion should end here.
Sven
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Corrupt passwd file
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 18:53:05 GMT
Hi, unfortunately I've gone and messed up the /etc/passwd file by joining the
first two lines into one.
So now it looks something like:
root:x:0:0:/bin/csh bin:x:1:1:/bin
When I try to log in as root it tries to run the command "/bin/csh
bin:x:1:1..." and fails to create a shell because that is a silly program
name.
Is there anyway around this? I can't find the original installation disks, but
could I use any Linux installation disk (eg redhat) to reboot the machine into
some sort of mode that would let me edit the passwd file to repair it?
Jim
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From: Todd Ostermeier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: which distribution package do you recommend?
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 13:03:02 -0600
On Sun, 24 Jan 1999, Tony Eamick wrote:
: You might try Suse 3.2 . It comes out of Germany and would definately have a
: German language version . It is also a fine pkg with drivers for up to date
: video
: cards.
Or perhaps SuSE 5.3? (3.2? I thought the first SuSE was 4.2).
Everything else still holds, however. German based distro, uses rpms for
package management (uses yast as the tool to do so, or you can use the
standard rpm cli), etc. SuSE 6.0 should be out Real Soon Now (I've not
heard anything lately, but my guess is that as soon as 2.2.0 is stable,
SuSE 6.0 will be released, using the 2.2 kernel).
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From: Pas Moi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: power management and cron tasks
Date: 24 Jan 1999 21:40:50 -0500
>> "JT" == John Thompson wrote on Sat, 23 Jan 1999 21:45:58 -0500:
JT> Having just moved from the dark ages of 1992 486 computer to a new
JT> machine I find myself wondering how this new-fangled BIOS power
JT> management stuff might affect cron tasks on the new machine. Ie,
JT> if I tell the BIOS to doze/standby/suspend after a certain amount
JT> of idle time, what happens when it becomes time for a cron task to
JT> run? Is the cpu still actively processing cron in all these
JT> power-saving modes? Or does everything stop until the machine is
JT> roused by external stimulus?
still running on a 486 here, but it's a laptop. anyway, it sorta
depends on what cron you run. usually, if your machine is snoozing
deeply, the crontask doesn't run. however, there's a modified cron
out there for laptop users and the like that need something a little
different. it don't think it can wake the cpu up, though. i'm sorry
i can't remember the precise name of the thing, nor have i tried it.
ciao,
g.y.
--
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Once, there was NO fun ... This was before MENU planning, FASHION
statements or NAUTILUS equipment ... Then, in 1985 ... FUN was
completely encoded in this tiny MICROCHIP ... It contain 14,768 vaguely
amusing SIT-COM pilots!! We had to wait FOUR BILLION years but we
finally got JERRY LEWIS, MTV and a large selection of creme-filled
snack cakes!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David E. Fox)
Subject: Re: cpio truncating inode numbers
Date: 25 Jan 1999 13:05:00 -0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Coll wrote:
>Does it matter if cpio truncates the inode numbers? Will it affect the
>restore in any way? I guess not since I assume that the restore will be
>done by filename not inode number.
It may not, but somehow I wouldn't trust it to give the proper
results.
The cpio man page gives a hint as to how to support using more
than 64k inodes, and that would be to use a different archive
format like newc (SVR4 portable format) or crc, with the --format=
specifier.
Frankly I find the cpio manpage confusing at best and I went back to
tar. It's far simpler :).
>john
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From: Stephen Richard FREELAND <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie Installation
Date: 25 Jan 1999 19:05:35 GMT
Thrawn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: What I want to do is set up 3 partitions: primary(C: Win 95 - 1
: gig, D: Linux - 1 gig), and an extended(E: - 1 gig). One problem,
: though, is that I need to transfer a gig from D: to C:(Then FIPS
: split my C: primary). But seeing as my drive is full
: i'll have to find a way to repartition
Eh? I don't see how Partition Magic would help you anyways -- if
you've got 3 gigs of data, you'll have to dump 1 anyways, regardless of how
it's spread over the partitions...
: (Without Partition Magic, I don't have any extra cash!). But,
: that's not my major problem. I've been hearing things about keeping
: my Linux below the 1024 cylinder mark(Which I have no way of knowing).
Okay. What that is about is LILO (The Linux bootloader) is unable
to boot a kernel image that is located past the 1024th cylinder. It won't
affect Linux itself, and there are other ways of booting Linux anyways --
from the DOS prompt with Loadlin, for example.
Linux' fdisk program will tell you about how partitions are arranged
in terms of drive cylinders. And if your computer is at all recent, the
hard drive will be using LBA addressing, so that it's *extremely* unlikely
a partition starting just after the first gig will be past 1024 cylinders.
: And on top of that, I haven't been able to find a utility like Delorie's
: Zip Picker to download Linux, so I have no idea what to download.
: Any suggestions??????
That is a rather nice setup, isn't it? Don't think there's an
equivalent for Linux, although it might be a nice project...
First thing is to pick a distribution. Red Hat Linux seems to be
first choice these days. If you want to make up your own mind, read the
Distribution-HOWTO:
http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/HOWTO/Distribution-HOWTO.html
What to download and how to install depends on which distribution
you pick, and their respective websites should have the necessary
information.
: BTW - Do I have split my 1 gig primary Linux partition for OS/swap or
: something like that?
Preferably. Although Linux can use a file for swap, or indeed do
without swap entirely, neither is a good idea: the former is much slower
than a dedicated partition, and the latter is very limiting in terms of how
many programs you'll be able to run at once.
Good luck! . SNF .
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Antivirus
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 18:05:25 GMT
In article <78i0h9$sc3$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aurelien Jarno) wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm looking an antivirus for Linux.
>
> Thanks
>
> Aur�lien
Why? My understanding is that there aren't any Linux viruses. Linux, unlike
Windows for example, is a real operating system. Silly little programs can't
just decide to write to all executables. They get told "Oh no you don't!" by
the operating system.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Buck)
Subject: Re: Lilo boot disk
Date: 25 Jan 1999 19:11:01 GMT
On Mon, 25 Jan 1999 01:47:38 -0800, Wael Sedky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]*> wrote:
: How can I make Lilo boot disk after I have installed Linux. Before I used to
: get to that menu option whenever I use pkgtool I think.
Check the configuration of /etc/lilo.conf then type 'lilo' with a disk
in the drive.
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From: pdohert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 13:43:20 -0600
Benjamin A. Rosenberg wrote:
>
> d00d,
>
> Go take your flag waving somewhere else..I work for a large beer maker
> who shall not be named..AB...heh...and I visit lots of plants all over
> the country making them y2k compliant and rolling out NT ( not my choice
> ). I have heard these average americans call us " them thinkin boys with
> the computers " So don't tell me that the average American can wipe his
> own ass well, because that would be wrong. It was the above average
> American that has done what you said. For the most part people are sheep
> and should be kept as far away from computers and the net as possible...
>
> oh anyways..end of soapbox...
No offense but I'll take my "flag-waving" wherever I please, thank you
very much. It may be true that we computer people don't represent the
average on pretty much any metric but that doesn't remove the fact that
some people are attempting to beat up on *our* average American as being
something less than someone else's average. I'm merely stating that we
must be doing something right... and BTW most of these people's
information leading them to the conclusion that there is something
*wrong* with US education because our high schoolers don'r fare
particularly well against their other-country counterparts probably fail
to take into consideration that many countries do not do as we do.
Namely we attempt to put *everyone* through 12 years of schooling while
many countries weed out the weaker students around 7th or 8th grade and
keep only the top 25% or so in publicly-funded schooling which has two
effects:
1) Raises their apparent "average" since it's now based on their
top-tier students.
2) Generates a competetive atmosphere in schools since there aren't
enough publicly-funded slots for everyone students must compete if they
want one of them (an excellent idea IMHO).
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Systems Analyst/Programmer
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From: Aaron Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: keeping linux filenames unmodified on 95
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 14:19:43 -0500
I have two computers, one is redhat 5.2 and the other is 95.
I am doing a fresh install on my linux box, and made a tar archive of my
home dir.
Then I transfered that archive to my 95 box via FTP. Is there anyway to
keep the filenames
in the archive from being modified?
For example, say there is an archive example.tar.gz.
In that archive is three files:
EXAMPLE1.html
EXAMPLE2.txt
EXAMPLE3.pdf
If I transfer it to my 95 box, those filenames change to:
example1.html
example2.txt
example3.pdf
is there any way to prevent this?
thanks,
Aaron
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From: Dawid Michalczyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: which windowing manager + java
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 23:17:53 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Howdy linux people!
Being new to Linux I have two simple questions:
1.what is the most stable X windowing manager for Linux(I use Intel RH5.1)
2.Is there support for java syntax highlighting in Xemacs?What other Xeditors do
support java syntax highlighting?
Thanks in advance
Dawid
________________________________________________________
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home page: http://users.cybercity.dk/~bcc5877/home.html
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From: Eugene Strulyov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: which distribution package do you recommend?
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 19:46:06 GMT
Agreed. SuSE is a very good distribution, especially good for a newbie. The
German version of SuSE 6.0 is out already, English version is supposed to come
out soon.
I run Debian myself. It works great (awesome!) but it's definitely not
"newbie-friendly" - you need a little experience to run it.
Todd Ostermeier wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Jan 1999, Tony Eamick wrote:
>
> : You might try Suse 3.2 . It comes out of Germany and would definately have a
> : German language version . It is also a fine pkg with drivers for up to date
> : video
> : cards.
>
> Or perhaps SuSE 5.3? (3.2? I thought the first SuSE was 4.2).
> Everything else still holds, however. German based distro, uses rpms for
> package management (uses yast as the tool to do so, or you can use the
> standard rpm cli), etc. SuSE 6.0 should be out Real Soon Now (I've not
> heard anything lately, but my guess is that as soon as 2.2.0 is stable,
> SuSE 6.0 will be released, using the 2.2 kernel).
>
> ________________________________
>
> Todd Ostermeier
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.ews.uiuc.edu/~ostermer/index.html
> ICQ UIN: 2253928
> A-723
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From: "Chris Snyder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 15:32:45 -0500
Actually the users don't care, that's why Linux is so popular ;-).
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message ...
>>>I really do not see the big deal with rebooting a'la CTRL-ALT-DEL even if
>>>I have to do once a day! I always save my data automatically. The worst
>>>that will happen is that I'll lose 5 minutes of work! big deal !!!
>>>I think the crashes things is over sold and is getting old and boring
>>>to tell you the truth.
>
>This is why Billy G can continue to build 'trash' that passes as an OS.
>His users don't care if they buy an inferior product. They don't care if
>they're getting ripped off.
>
>
>
>>>is there nothing new the Unix/Linux crowds can say other than
this????????
>
>Isn't it enough? What an idiot!
>
>
>--
>
>"I will have the most ethical administration in history."
>Bill Clinton; Nov. 1992
>
>Yeah, right....
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (BradyBear)
Subject: Re: No available PTY'S message when opening an xterm
Date: 25 Jan 1999 19:48:12 GMT
On 25 Jan 1999 00:44:30 GMT, "Jeremy L. Buchmann"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
>BradyBear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>: After a recent unsuccessfull attempt to install wp8, I'm now
>: experiencing a wierd problem. When ever I try to open an xterm, I get
>: the message "no available ptys". I can start CDE, but if I try to open
>: a terminal, I get the same message. If I try to just do xinit, X fails
>: with the same message. I don't know if it's related to the failed wp8
>: installation attempt, But it started immidiately after that. I tried
>: reinstalling xfree86 and that went smoothly, but I stll can't open an
>: xterm. I can't find any references to PTY'S in any documentation
>: anywhere. My question is, does anybody know what a PTY is and how to I
>: make them available to xinit?
>: Thanks
>
>Yes, ptys are pseudo-terminals. For some reason, if you try to install WP
>from a console, it destroys all your ptys. Not to fear, you can make them
>again with MAKEDEV.
>
>'man MAKEDEV' will tell you all you need to know.
>
>-------------------------------------------------------------------
>Jeremy Buchmann "Those who trade freedom for safety deserve
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] neither freedom nor safety." -- Ben Franklin
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Yup, that was it!
MAKEDEV generic fixed it.
Thanks
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From: "Chris Snyder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 15:40:59 -0500
oops, meant actually the users DO care...
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Chris Snyder wrote in message ...
>Actually the users don't care, that's why Linux is so popular ;-).
>
>--
>Chris Snyder
>Webmaster's Corner: Free webmaster's resources and more!
>http://www.webmasterc.com
>
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message ...
>>>>I really do not see the big deal with rebooting a'la CTRL-ALT-DEL even
if
>>>>I have to do once a day! I always save my data automatically. The worst
>>>>that will happen is that I'll lose 5 minutes of work! big deal !!!
>>>>I think the crashes things is over sold and is getting old and boring
>>>>to tell you the truth.
>>
>>This is why Billy G can continue to build 'trash' that passes as an OS.
>>His users don't care if they buy an inferior product. They don't care if
>>they're getting ripped off.
>>
>>
>>
>>>>is there nothing new the Unix/Linux crowds can say other than
>this????????
>>
>>Isn't it enough? What an idiot!
>>
>>
>>--
>>
>>"I will have the most ethical administration in history."
>>Bill Clinton; Nov. 1992
>>
>>Yeah, right....
>
>
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From: "Chris Snyder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 15:41:58 -0500
I agree. I heard that NT5(win2000) will require a Pentium 2 and 128 MB RAM.
I'm currently running Linux on a 486SX 25 with 16MB RAM
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
<77r4vo$784$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>In article <OCLEZnYQ#[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Joshua Schaeffer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >Ok Loose nuts. Maybe windows is less stable, but this is ONLY important
>> >for the most critical applications of our time !!!!!!!!!!
>>
>> Not quite. When I'm navigating deep within a hierarchy of hyperlinks in
>> Internet Explorer under Win95 only to have the machine crash, I have to
work
>> EXTREMELY hard to resist throwing the monitor out the window. I've lost
>> track of countless pages of important information that way.
>>
>> >I really do not see the big deal with rebooting a'la CTRL-ALT-DEL even
if
>> >I have to do once a day! I always save my data automatically. The worst
>> that
>> >will happen is that I'll lose 5 minutes of work! big deal !!!
>>
>> It's a VERY big deal depending on which 5 minutes of work you lose. And
you
>> don't get a choice, either.
>>
>> >I think the crashes things is over sold and is getting old and boring
>> >to tell you the truth.
>> >
>> >is there nothing new the Unix/Linux crowds can say other than
this????????
>>
>> This alone is a very strong argument that can't and won't be ignored. On
>> these grounds, I don't even consider Win9x a serious platform for
ANYONE'S
>> use. Therefore, I think the Win9x vs. Linux argument is a waste of time,
>> and that the argument should really be NT vs. Linux, because in a year's
use
>> I haven't had an NT machine crash on me yet.
>>
>>
>
>actually if you beat on an NT machine enough it will blue screen on you
just
>like 95/98, and it is a ridiculous pig of system resources comapred to
>anything else normally using between 24 and 30 megs of RAM just to to boot
>itself up. Dont believe me, put on the task manager and see for yourself
>
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From: "Chris Snyder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 15:47:12 -0500
OK, so then Microsoft stole the idea from Xerox. Big difference.
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David Hall wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>
>
>>Loose Nut wrote:
>
>> >On Wed, 13 Jan 1999 05:57:39 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> >Who are you kidding. Bill was a failure. Until he stole the idea for a
>> >GUI interface from Steve Jobs, (look up the court case). Bill was
>> >there when Steve got the idea. Steve was dumb enough to share it with
>> >Bill. Then Bill gave Steve the MacroShaft.
>
>Not to split hairs or anything but ...
>
>Indeed, Bill Gates stole the idea from Steve Jobs. But, if memory serves me
>correctly, Steve Jobs stole the idea from Xerox. You know, the guys that
invented
>the GUI, the mouse, ethernet, hypertext, etc. Too bad the Xerox management
didn't
>know what their researchers had created.
>
>Dave
>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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