Linux-Misc Digest #348, Volume #19 Sun, 7 Mar 99 12:13:14 EST
Contents:
tar_cat???? (Scott)
Re: A LUG in Vermont (Tobias C. Brown)
windows 95B doesn't see FAT32 partition ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: BEST HW For Linux NoteBook Project (Pete Jewell)
Re: Samba 1.9.18p8 and NT4SP4 ("MokeKahuna")
Re: Xwindows too BIG (NF Stevens)
Re: Reqs for a Linux router
Re: smbmount: Can't get it to work... (Jason Kircher)
Installed GNOME 1.0.1, now several pgms won't run... Help! (Mister Homicidal)
Re: xdm problems - can't shutdown ("Scott D. Hernalsteen")
Re: KDE? Gnome? ... confused (John Varela)
Re: [Fwd: Send me to Linux] (kirby)
latest kdebug? (Seth Van Oort)
Re: stupid tar question (Tommy Willoughby)
Re: modutils for 2.2.2 (Joachim Feise)
sunsite.unc.edu servers (Seth Van Oort)
Re: Windows98 Networking (bklimas)
Booting from a CDROM (Philip Rademakers)
Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing? ("David A. Frantz")
Move this to a flame/prattle group please. ("Duane Elmer Smeckert")
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From: Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: tar_cat????
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 18:01:31 -0600
I am using a RedHat Linux 5.2 and am attempting to compile a addon
driver (hpdj)
into the Aladden 5.50 ghostscript. In the instructions it mentions:
"you must now run tar_cat to regenerate your platform-specific makefile"
What is tar_cat and where can I get it. I have searched
all over the internet and there is no mention of is anywhere.
Thank you
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tobias C. Brown)
Crossposted-To: vt.unix,uvm.linux,uvm.unix,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: A LUG in Vermont
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 15:23:36 GMT
On Sat, 06 Mar 1999 00:45:21 -0500, "Marc G. Glade"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi my name is Marc Glade and I have been a user of Linux for the past
>five years. I am interested in starting a Linux Users Group in Vermont,
>particularly in the Burlington area.
See http://www.slug-vt.org/. This group is pretty much DOA.
Let me know if you get something started. Total newbie here. But at
least I'm resourceful. ;-)
Toby Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: windows 95B doesn't see FAT32 partition
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.misc
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 7 Mar 1999 15:24:09 GMT
I converted an ext2 partition to fat32 using the mkdosfs-0.4.1
program under Linux. Linux can see the FAT32 partition fine,
but when I boot Windows 95B it complains my E: drives is
unaccessible. How do I make Windows 95B see the FAT32
partition? Note: I decided to use mkdosfs, because the cvt
utility says it might kill off my OS/2 HPFS partitions.
--
Fred
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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pete Jewell)
Subject: Re: BEST HW For Linux NoteBook Project
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.portable,uk.comp.os.linux
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 14:02:25 +0000
In article <7bt0pn$32r$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"David A. Frantz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
DAF> Hi Robert;
DAF> Robert Billing wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>>David Fox wrote:
>>
>>> You could get a Pentium 233MMX thinkpad 560X from Micro Warehouse for
>>> $1299.
>>
>> Look, chaps, if you are going to crosspost to uk.comp.os.linux, could
>>we have the prices in sterling as well please? Btw I have just picked up
>>a Libretto, that runs Linux very well, for �600 (that's about $1000).
DAF>
DAF> The GreenBack, the American Dollar, is ubiquitous. It should be as
DAF> familiar as the rising sun in any first world country, second and third
DAF> world I'm not to sure about.
DAF>
DAF> dave
DAF>
DAF>
</OFF-TOPIC>
I don't want to start any flame wars - however - /some/ people may
misconstrue your reluctance to state prices in the currencies used
in the newsgroups you crosspost to as arrogance, which in turn could
start an unnecessary flame war.
</OFF-TOPIC>
I'd actually like to pickup an aging 386 notebook to run Linux on -
any suggestions from someone who's done such a thing as to what
model/manufacturer to look out for/avoid?
--
Pete
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
================================================================
Linux Registered User # 100652 - Uptime 5 hours, and counting...
-- People are more than fun than anybody. --
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From: "MokeKahuna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: Samba 1.9.18p8 and NT4SP4
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 15:19:47 GMT
Lam,
I've got those setting except for the username map. That did not help.
The error messages I'm getting are 'NT Password did not match ! defaulting
to Lanman'. I've reset the password using smbpasswd both as the user and
root (smbpasswd <username>) -- no luck. Any other ideas?
Lam Dang wrote in message ...
>"MokeKahuna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Has anyone gotten Samba 1.9.18p8 running on Slackware 3.5 (kernel 2.0.34)
to
>> work with NT4.0 with SP4 to work in password encryption mode?
>>
>> I really don't want to use passwords in clear text.
>>
>
>I have Samba 1.9.18p10-3 running with RedHat 5.2
>(kernel 2.0.36) in password encryption mode. My
>clients are Windows 95, Windows 98, and Windows NT
>(SP4).
>
>Some of the relevant parameters:
>
> security = user
> encrypt passwords = yes
> smb passwd file = /etc/smbpasswd
> username map = /etc/smbusers
>
>Mine is not a production system. For my purposes,
>Samba is simply unbeatable!
>
>--
>Lam Dang
>PGP key available as [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens)
Subject: Re: Xwindows too BIG
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 00:57:21 GMT
Terry Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Thanks for the quick response...
>I tried 1280x1024 (which is what my monitor docs say it will do at 60HZ.
>No improvement. I then tried alt cntl plus and it had NO affect then
>alt cntl minus also with no affect, nada , zip zilch. I wonder
>if there is something more sinister wrong. By the way Xwindows looked
>fine with my original installation of Red Hat 5.2.
Look at the output that X generates when it starts up. This is
usually saved to a file (.X.err in SuSE 5.2). Check for lines
such as
(--) S3: Mode "1600x1200" needs hsync freq of 75.00 kHz. Deleted.
These will tell you why higher resolutions are not available.
Check the entries HorizSync and VertRefresh in XF86Config and
make sure they match what your monitor is capable of.
Norman
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Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 19:59:49 -0500
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Reqs for a Linux router
An i386 will handle about 10 to 20 Mbps of throughput.
A 75 or 90 MHz Pentium should be able to handle about
100 Mbps. Your 486 is somewhere in between. The limiting
factor would be your serial port and the type of
connection it has to your ISP. The best way to increase
throughput to the Internet would be to either get a
cable modem or xDSL, and attach a second ethernet card
to the Linux router that connects to the cable modem/xDSL
modem. Alternatively you could use ISDN. The cheapest
way would be to by an internal ISDN card. An easier way
would be to attach an external ISDN modem to your serial
port, then you can use regular modem commands. And another
easy way would be to get an ISDN TA that has an ethernet
port instead of a serial port connection.
Greg
> Heya,
>
> Within a few weeks the amount of computers in my home is going to go up
> to three
> and occasionally peak at six, that will all at some point require access
> to the net.
> To this end I have acquired all the parts for a Linux box,
> The big question is, will it be fast enough? The serial ports are full
> speed 16500A UART
> and the network card is 10 mps, however, the rest of it is still a 486
> Dx2 50 with 8 megs
> of ram on an ISA bus. All I plan to do is get it to dial up on command
> to my ISP and run I.P.
> masquesrading for all the other computers through the modem. Do I need
> to purchase more in
> the way of hardware or is it adaquate?
>
> Cheers
> Edward
>
>
>
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From: Jason Kircher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: smbmount: Can't get it to work...
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 16:03:02 GMT
Steffen Kluge wrote:
> This is not the problem, //tina/c is just fine. Try to specify
> `-C <username>'. I have to give `-c <client-hostname>' too, if
> my hostname turns out to be unacceptable to the Windows box.
>
> Btw, the (seemingly stupid) message you get is worth taking
> seriously. Look up the smbmount man page for "MOUNT FAILURES".
> Unfortunately, the designers of the mount(2) system call didn't
> anticipate how pesky a server may be about naming conventions
> and other idiosyncrasies, that's why mount(2) doesn't provide
> for meaningful error codes in this case.
>
BTDT, got the T-shirt. (well...)
Ayep, I tried all kinds of different permutations of -c, -C, etc. The
server is a Win95 machine, which doesn't use usernames anyway. Yes, the
hostname and Netbios name differ, so instead of //tina/c, I use
//trouble/C -s TINA. (Don't laugh) That got rid of the -I switch,
anyway.
I don't know if this is meaningful, but when I try to use a -N, it
gives me the usage screen. -N is supposed to not ask for a password.
Next idea?
>
> Hope this helps
> Steffen.
>
> --
> Steffen Kluge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Fujitsu Australia Ltd
> Keywords: photography, Mozart, UNIX, Islay Malt, dark skies
> --
--
-Jason Kircher
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mister Homicidal)
Subject: Installed GNOME 1.0.1, now several pgms won't run... Help!
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 16:04:03 GMT
I installed GNOME 1.0.1 along w/ Enlightenment via RPM's, and ran into
a few problems, most of which I've fixed. This is Red Hat 5.2, btw...
After the RPM install, I had to compile and install several previous
versions of libg and libgtk to get things like electric eyes and
gentoo to run. The GNOME rpm's had deleted older versions of these
libs.
Two problems remain:
When I try to start linuxconf from a shell, I get the following
message: remadmin (GUI frontend) exiting abnormally.
When I try to start gnome-linuxconf, I get: error in loading shared
libraries: Undefined symbol: __register_frame_info
I've uninstalled linuxconf, and then reinstalled it, with no luck. I'm
guessing that this is still a library problem, but which one?
Any solutions, ideas will be graciously accepted. Thanks!
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From: "Scott D. Hernalsteen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: xdm problems - can't shutdown
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 11:09:00 -0500
Jason Kircher wrote:
>
> Make sure you a) log on as root, or b) su as root first.
> Identify the pid xdm is running on with:
> ps aux | grep xdm
> You'll get an output that looks like the following:
>
> root 257 0.0 0.7 1984 504 ? S 14:08 0:00 xdm
>
> root 708 0.0 0.4 952 312 p1 S 02:43 0:00 grep xdm
>
> The pid of xdm is in the second column. To kill xdm (based on the
> above output), use the next command:
>
> kill -9 257
>
> Substitute the proper pid in place of 257, or who knows what you might
> bring down!
> It is a very good idea, before you do this, to make sure nothing is
> using X. Just close all windows, log out of X, and switch to another
> TTY.
> At this point, it would be safe to say that X has been killed.
> Hope this helps any...
>
> (I know there is a slicker way of doing this, anyone?)
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Linux: Red Hat 5.1
> > Computer: 486dx2/66, 20MB ram
> >
> > When I activate xdm it works properly, except that I can not
> > shutdown the
> > computer. Logged in as root, I type shutdown -h now in a command
> > shell and the
> > following messages appear:
> > (loosely paraphrased)
> > Broadcasting ... (my memory fails me right now)
> > Starting shutdown procedure ...
> >
> > then the command prompt comes up again.
> >
> > halt freezes the computer, and after turning the power off and on
> > the disk
> > needs to be checked in the boot up procedure.
> >
> > init 0 starts the shutdown procudure, but seems to get stuck at
> > shutting down
> > gpm mouse services.
> > init 3 has no effect (I heard that this would put me back in regular
> > mode so
> > that I could exit X back to the text based interface).
> >
> > So, if I run xdm then how do I shut down the computer?
> > How can I turn off xdm once it is activated without rebooting the
> > computer?
> >
> > This is my first installation of linux and I have not made any weird
> >
> > modifications... the system should be close to original.
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Stephen
> >
> > -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network
> > ==----------
> > http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your
> > Own
>
> --
> -Jason Kircher
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
I've found that if I switch over to a console mode(Ctrl-Alt-F1) and
login as root, I can just issue the shutdown command as usual.
--Scott
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Varela)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.rpm,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: KDE? Gnome? ... confused
Date: 7 Mar 1999 01:02:17 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 22 Feb 1999 18:00:38, Werner Kliewer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The UNIX and therefore Linux version of this, as invented by Xerox (hence
> the name) and since enhanced over about 20-30 years is called X-Windows.
The New Hacker's Dictionary definition of X: "An over-sized, over-featured,
over-engineered and incredibly over-complicated window system developed at MIT
and widely used on Unix systems.
http://www.outpost9.com/reference/jargon/jargon_toc.html
--
John Varela
(delete . between mind and spring to e-mail me)
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From: kirby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Send me to Linux]
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 20:06:34 -0500
I know I'm an a**hole for saying this, but...
If you can't even take the time to do *one* search, on the search engine
of your choice, for the keyword "linux", so that you come back with
umpteen thousand hits; and then can't follow two or three to the answer
you seek, how do you think you will ever make it in the linux world?
Finding a linux distribution will be the easiest part of journey you seek
to begin.
In fact you *already know* about RedHat. How could you go wrong with
'www.redhat.com'. Links to FTP sites and more. Yea, yea... buying on
CD-ROM is the best, and getting that cd for 2 bucks is the sweet route,
but come on; If you can't figure it out in a few point and clicks of
your Windoze or Mac, then roll-up on your local Barnes & Noble and buy a
"Learn Linux in 14 Minutes" book for 40-50$ and install from the CD in
the back of the book. Atleast then you will have a reference as to how to
go about a boot floppy, or partitioning, or ...how to logon for the first
time. Otherwise you will be posting here in another week asking, "I
remember choosing a password during the install, but what's my username?"
Again, I'm a jerk. I'm sorry. We were all a Newbie at one time; Me...
just a year and a half ago. All I'm saying is "Put in a little effort."
Don't be afraid to read a HOW-TO (or ten) just for one answer, you will
likely learn much more than what you were looking for. If that is to much
to ask then put down the keyboard, let go of the mouse, and go back to
the GameBoy from which you came.
Kirby Samuelson
'No rocket scientist, just determined and hardworking.'
Richard Vosburgh wrote:
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Send me to Linux
> Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 21:10:09 -0600
> From: Richard Vosburgh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Organization: Posted via RemarQ Communities, Inc.
> Newsgroups: alt.os.linux.caldera
>
> I understand Linux OS is available at no cost. Please point me in the
> right direction to download the latest version. If I'm mistaken, about
> the no cost availability, let me know; where to go for downloads and
> who's version is best (i.e. Caldera, Redhat, etc.).
>
> Thanks in advance for your help and Best Regards,
> Rich
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From: Seth Van Oort <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: latest kdebug?
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 01:07:49 +0000
the last one I saw (at sunsite.unc.edu) was version 1.1 for the 1.1
kernel. Is there a newer one with a patch for the newer kernels?
(mm.patch)
Seth
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Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 16:35:44 -0800
From: Tommy Willoughby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: stupid tar question
tim rosen wrote:
>
> This is an awfully simple question, but I just can't seem to find a simple
> explanation in my various manuals. How do I extract tar files? I'm trying:
>
> tar -x file.tar
>
> and it is just freezing up.
>
> Help please. Thank you.
It's not freezing up, it's waiting for input from stdin because you
didn't tell it to operate on a file. In other words, you must tell it
that you want to untar a file with the -f flag. So, try this:
tar -xf file.tar
You might also find some useful info with:
man tar
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From: Joachim Feise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: modutils for 2.2.2
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 08:04:30 -0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
yhauser wrote:
>
> I've installed kernel 2.2.2 successfully just for module support (marked
> ENABLE LOADABLE MODULE SUPPORT and KERNEL MODULE LOADER). My modutils
> are 2.1.85 - they run with my old kernel 2.0.33, but they fail with
> 2.2.2.
> Can anybody give me a hint?! yves
You need modutils 2.1.121. Available at
ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.1/modutils-2.1.121.tar.gz
-Joe
--
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Joachim Feise Ph.D. Student, Information & Computer Science
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ics.uci.edu/~jfeise/
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Seth Van Oort <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: sunsite.unc.edu servers
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 01:11:45 +0000
Does anyone know what they're running?
Seth
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From: bklimas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Windows98 Networking
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 16:11:16 GMT
Phil Williams wrote:
> I'm involved in a LAN at work, all independently running Windows98 (no
> server, all stand-alones).
> How can I run my system using redhat linux 5.2 on the network to share
> printers etc.
> I have the same network card has the others in the network
Seems you want a Linux server running Samba. This can be set up quite
easily and works very well--I run a small network including Samba at
home, and I am not a computer professional. For a small network, in
addition to your windows computers, each with a network card, you
need a hub with at least as many ports as the number of computers on
your network (~$80 for an 8-port hub) and a PC to be converted into
your Linux server, also with an Ehternet card.
You may want to have a look at my homepage, it explains some
of the Samba basics:
http://www.magma.ca/~bklimas/FAQ.htm#samba_setup
If you have more specific questions or problems ask here again.
Hope this helps. Newbie here. Best regards,
b.k.
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From: Philip Rademakers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Booting from a CDROM
Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 11:42:53 +0100
Hi,
I would like to boot linux from a self made CDROM.
Currently, I have a boot scheme that uses 2 floppies. The first contains
the kernel, the second a compressed ram disk image. This works fine,
even when the floppies are write protected.
I would like this to work from a CDROM though ... but I cannot figure
out how to make it work (I found some pointers to make bootable CDs but
they all seem to boot DOS ...).
Does anybody know hot to make linux boot from a CD using as root
filesystem a compressed ram disk image?
Thanks for any help,
--
Philip Rademakers Tel: +32 2 724 86 81
SONY Digital Network Solutions Europe - Brussel
Sint Stevens Woluwestraat 55 Fax: +32 2 726 26 86
1130 Brussels - Belgium
Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
WWW: http://www.sonycom.com
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From: "David A. Frantz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing?
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 23:20:43 -0500
Robert Krawitz wrote in message ...
>"David A. Frantz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> I think you hit on one problem at the very least and that is if you want
to
>> get away from I386 you have only one other mass produced platform and
that
>> is Apples Mac. When dealling with software I do not think binary
>> compatablity is s big deal for Linux users. After all if you want to
run
>> something you can just recompile it.
>
>For better or for worse, the latter statement is not true, and it's
>becoming less and less true. If your goal is to run Oracle, Informix,
>DB/2, Sybase, or what have you, binary compatibility is essential.
Yes this is true in the context of shrinked wrapped applications. However
the application, as I understood it, involves largely custom code so a
recompile should not be a big thing. Even if I misunderstand the usage a
bit, the requirements for the machine seem to demand a dedicated processor
so the chance of using shrinked wrapped software on it is slim.
>
>(If people want to argue that that should not be the case -- that
>everything should be GPL'ed and Linux should provide no help to either
>authors or users of proprietary software -- that issue can be argued
>on its own merits. However, that is not the current state of affairs,
>and even as far as existing Linux distributions go, support for
>platforms other than the x86 is spotty. For example, to the best of
>my knowledge I cannot get SuSE for the Alpha.)
>
>--
>Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/
>
>Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2
>Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>"Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works."
>--Eric Crampton
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Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Duane Elmer Smeckert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Move this to a flame/prattle group please.
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 23:16:49 -0800
I promise to not post replies to more than the group I am reading
except possibly to redirect off topic prattel to more appropriate groups.
Please forgive my attempt to kill a thread that shouldn't ve in any of:
comp.os.linux.help
comp.os.linux.questions
comp.os.linux.setup
linux.redhat.misc
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