Linux-Misc Digest #403, Volume #19 Wed, 10 Mar 99 17:13:11 EST
Contents:
Re: PPP connection ... Help (David Kirkpatrick)
Re: Help installing linux on extra hard drive (Michael Powe)
Re: Public license question (John Hasler)
Re: Windows vs Unix was Re: TROLL/KOOK WARNING! (Patrick Dunford)
Linux behind MS Proxy ("Edward Lee")
Re: No-Win Modem Situation (Robert Barnes)
Re: Problems with maple after upgrade ("Lord Scruff, High Lord")
Re: adding drive larger than 8Gb to PCI Pentium 100MHz m/board (Jess C. Gehin)
Re: More bad news for NT (Martin Green)
Re: KDE and KOffice ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: More bad news for NT (Jason Clifford)
Re: Please Help - Linux Market Research (Anne Williams)
g77: "crtbegin.o not found" (Matthew Fleming)
Direct access via net to root shell (Jim Howes)
Re: Bizarre "find" process running under owner "nobody" (Seth Van Oort)
Re: Linux setup (Phil)
Re: Linux setup (David Kirkpatrick)
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From: David Kirkpatrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PPP connection ... Help
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 15:21:57 +0000
You might try minicom to see if the number is ok and the modem going
before starting ppp. You should probably see at least a logon prompt
before you get booted.
Generic info for RH 5.2. Assumption: you installed PPP.
===================================================================
RH puts ppp scripts in /usr/doc/ppp-2.3.5
Copy ppp-on, ppp-on-dialer, options to /etc/ppp.
BTW:I have copied /dev/null to options.
These need to be made execuitable. Execute chmod 755 on ppp-on
and ppp-on-dialer
===================================================================
Modify ppp-on by editing the following:
TELEPHONE, ACCOUNT, PASSWORD
==================================================================
For exec command. put in correct device probably
cua1 (for RH5.2) and modem speed
===================================================================
Edit /etc/resolv.conf and put in ISP nameserver given you by your
ISP.
nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
You usually get two from your isp.
====================================================================
execute ppp-on & and monitor logs with
tail -f /var/log/messages.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
OR:
Control Pannel: Modem configuration. Select
correct device. (used in ppp-on script)
===================================================================
Control Pannel: Network Configurator: Routing: Defaults blank
PPP0 will use this so needs a blank here.
===================================================================
Network Configurator: Names: insert ISP
nameserver addresses.
===================================================================
System Configurator: PPP/SLIP/PLIP: Configurations, Add
Fill in Hardware, Communication. Assumes PAP not
required - If things do not work check with ISP.
==================================================================
Save quit. Verify /etc/resolv.conf has your ISP
addresses.
==================================================================
The linuxconf sets up most things but does not
setup the ppp-on script - that must be done by hand.
==================================================================
Testing:
cd /etc/ppp
execute ppp-on
Ping locally between your network machines to insure your ok.
Ping some net address by ip number like 10.220.10.120. Once ppp
is connected.
Verify your name server working, ping boston.com or do an
nslookup microsoft.com
When not dialed in ping someother box locally by name
to insure yor local resolution is working say if
done by the /etc/hosts and /etc/lmhosts.
=============================================================
If things do not work turn on debugging or up the level of
debugging. Edit the scripts and put debug 7 in there.
For LCP errors two common causes are the ISP is not responding
to you - he's down or you and the ISP are out of sync on PAP.
"Charles P. Koerner" wrote:
>
> Keith:
> I've got the same problem. Havent tried it yet but the linux guru at my ISP says to
> try another phone number? Will do that tonight. By the way, did you get your
> RedHat 5.2 from RedHat or boxed from Mcmillian and company. I've just read that
> Mcmillian did not include all the software that RedHat does.
> Anyway, mine is from Mcmillian, and there so called support is only for
> installation.
> Pete
>
> "Keith G. Murphy" wrote:
>
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi, there:
> > > I'm trying to set up PPP connection. I read some HOWTO articles and tried
> > > the manual script in them. And also I tried the default scripts coming with
> > > RH5.2(of course replace the phone number, username and passwd). But both
> > > failed. I can hear the modem dialing and successfully connected but soon it
> > > stoped. Following are the scripts in those two methods and the results in log
> > > file. Does anyone know what's wrong? Thanks a lot.
> > >
> > [cut nice detailed description]
> > Have you checked out using PAP rather than CHAP? (pap-secrets file
> > instead of chap-secrets, etc.). More ISPs use that, I think. Maybe you
> > can get it set up that way using RedHat's configuration thingy. Hope
> > that helps...
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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Help installing linux on extra hard drive
Date: 10 Mar 1999 12:45:13 -0800
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>>>>> "jelmore" == jelmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
jelmore> I've read through what seems like reams of information
jelmore> and still can't find a clear answer to my question. I
jelmore> have an ide 16 gig hard drive that is running Windows 98.
jelmore> I also have an ide 6 gig hard drive that used to have
jelmore> Windows 98 on it that I now want to install Linux on. I
jelmore> also have ide CD-ROM and CD-RW drives. Currently I have
jelmore> the 16 gig drive (Win 98) set as primary master. I want
jelmore> my two cd drives to be on seperate controllers so I can
jelmore> copy cd's directly from one drive to the other (if
jelmore> they're on the same controller it doesn't work so good I
jelmore> hear). That leaves my 6 gig drive (Linux) on the
jelmore> secondary controller. Now, can I run dual boot between
jelmore> Linux and Win 98 with this configuration. I've read that
jelmore> LILO has to be on a drive on the primary controller. Is
jelmore> this true even with a boot manager? I'm somewhat
jelmore> confused about the concept of making a small boot
jelmore> partition on my primary drive. Can somebody please
jelmore> recommend what I should do or at least explain my
jelmore> options? Thanks.
Hmm, well here's my partition configuration:
Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/hdc1 101075 41722 54134 44% /
/dev/hdc2 101093 62444 33428 65% /home
/dev/hdc3 1041638 719106 268715 73% /usr
/dev/hdb3 495746 260748 209395 55% /usr/local
/dev/hdb6 201011 26946 163685 14% /usr/src
As you can see, my root/boot partition is on the third HD (behind the
CD as it happens). I boot with lilo.
AFAIK, the only requirement for lilo is that the boot partition be
above the 1024th cylinder. Which will be no problem if you're going
to devote the whole drive to linux, anyway.
mp
- --
Michael Powe Portland, Oregon USA
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.trollope.org
"Three hours a day will produce as much as a man ought to write."
-- Anthony Trollope
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Public license question
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 16:13:34 GMT
Stephan writes:
> I am in effect distributing "Snow Crash", and am thus in violation of
> copyright, even though it is perfectly legal to distibute each individual
> component, and even though the user has to perform a non-trivial
> operation ("linking") of the two parts to actually get the novel.
I think that a court would say the encrypted novel contains the novel and
is therefor a derivative. One of the arguments that the plaintiff would
make is that someone might invent a way to crack the encryption. Another
is that as long as a method of decryption exists distributing the encrypted
novel is distributing the novel, even though the recipients can't read it
without your help. What if you distributed copies of the novel printed
with a disappearing ink which only you knew how to make visible? The court
would consider that and your encryption scheme equivalent.
> I am not certain about that - in fact, as far as I know this paste-on
> piece would very likely be considered a derived work, even though you
> wrote every word yourself.
Works similar to that described by Geoffrey exist. They called literary
criticism. Many authors would suppress them if they could.
> This is similar to writing a sequel to a successful novel - as far as I
> know, you are violating the authors copyright, even though you are not
> copying his words.
This is because such sequels usually use the original authors characters
and are therefor considered to include part of his work. Parodies, for
example, are legal.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Patrick Dunford)
Crossposted-To: nz.comp,nz.politics
Subject: Re: Windows vs Unix was Re: TROLL/KOOK WARNING!
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 10:19:02 +1300
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Patrick Dunford, Christchurch, NZ
http://patrick.dunford.com/
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From: "Edward Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,linux,tw.bbs.comp.linux
Subject: Linux behind MS Proxy
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 13:27:39 -0500
How to setup RedHat 5.2 behind Microsoft Proxy Server 2.0?
In Netscape, I can configure the proxy settings. But, other than that, my
Linux cannot access the Internet. I can't use ftp, telnet... command.
Please help.
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From: Robert Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: No-Win Modem Situation
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 04:27:52 -0500
Dang,
I forgot about USB modems. I haven't seen an external winmodem
yet, but I don't doubt that they are coming (although, they
would be a true dog in terms of performance). Perhaps a better
definition of a modem that is _probably_ NOT a winmodem is:
1. An external modem that connects to the serial port (non USB)
2. Uses the AT command set
3. Has flash memory (for V.90 upgrade. Logic for this: If it
was a winmodem, it wouldn't need flash for an upgrade).
4. "Minimum system requirements" does not state anything about
windows, only hardware stuff.
-bob
Thomas Weeks wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> >
> >Why does it have to be an internal? An external modem is guarenteed
> >to be a true modem.
>
> Not any more... With the new Winmodems.. and now just some of the USB modems
> that are not even BILLED as Winmodems: They are just analog phone line
> interfaces with a USB insterface. The processor does all DSP/Modem emulation.
>
> Only stick to true AT-command/serial units.
>
> > If it must be an internal, stay away from PCI based modems. Most
> >(99%) are winmodems. Price is also a good indicator, if it cost
> >$14.95, it's a winmodem.
> > -bob
> >Hugh Johnson wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm having a hard time trying to find a good internal modem (at a good
> >> price) that will work with RedHat. Today I bought a Viking v.90, which
> >> said nothing on the box about being a WinModem or requiring Windows or
> >> anything of the sort. The techie behind the service counter said it
> >> would work with Linux. So I brought it home, plugged it in, and it was
> >> 100% WinModem crap. Now I'm afraid to buy anything else unless I'm
> >> really sure it'll work. Does anybody have any specific suggestions
> >> (make & model)? What about the Zoom 2919? www.zoomtel is no-tell.
> >> Where can I find this info? Thanks.
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From: "Lord Scruff, High Lord" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Problems with maple after upgrade
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 02:32:08 +0000
Weird . . . I don't think I've ever had a problem running Maple . . .
started with redhat 4.0
Lord Scruff, High Lord of the Dark Army
giangy wrote:
> The problem is redhat 4.x is a libc5 system
> redhat 5.x are libc6 (also known ad glibc) system
> backward compatibilities do not work very well...
> you need software compiled against libc6
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From: Jess C. Gehin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: adding drive larger than 8Gb to PCI Pentium 100MHz m/board
Date: 10 Mar 1999 18:31:39 GMT
It all depends on the BIOS. My Gateway P5-100, for example, will
only allow drives <8.4GB. I am adding a 17 GB Maxtor using a
Promise Ultra/33 controller. The equipment hasn't arrived yet,
but it should work.
Perhaps you can post more information about you machine and
its BIOS.
Jess
Paul Johnson wrote:
>
>
> Hi
>
> I want to hook up a 13 Gb drive to my linux box running on a P100 PCI
> motherboard. It copes OK with a 270Mb+2Gb currently.
>
> If I add the 13Gb drive as a third drive will it be OK? Or must I use an
> <8Gb drive?
>
> Thanks
>
> Paul
>
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Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy
From: Martin Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: More bad news for NT
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 16:45:44 -0500
>
> Massimo> Lastly, you drive a car, correct. How much do you know
> Massimo> about it? Can you set the timing by ear? Can you
> Massimo> deterning where an engine noise is coming from just by
> Massimo> listening? Can you rebuild an engine, pverbore cylinders,
> Massimo> rework heads, rewind/rebuild alternators, starters,
> Massimo> celinoids, rewire a entire car, etc.? Can you
> Massimo> disassemble a transmission and reset the gears? do you
> Massimo> know what to do to get more torque out of an engine,
> Massimo> (tweaking a cmputer to get more power out of it). A
> Massimo> recent report stated that there are 250M+ cars in the
> Massimo> US. That is one for every man woman and child. How many
> Massimo> do you think know anything more about their auto than
> Massimo> stick in the key, start engine, and if it doesn't start
> Massimo> and or makes funny noises, its broke. My father for
> Massimo> one. So is it necessary for someone to know the OS of a
> Massimo> computer to operate one? No, just as no one has to
> Massimo> understand internal combustion (the OS of cars) to
> Massimo> operate a car.
>
> Actually, I don't drive a car very often now but I went through the
> same rite of initiation suffered by most American males; I've done
> every kind of repairs on an automobile except rebuild an automatic
> trannie. I've often said that owning a computer is a lot like owning
> a car -- they both suck up all your spare time and money. My garage
> used to be full of leftover car parts. Now, my cupboards are full of
> leftover computer parts.
>
Micheal:
I could not help responding to this. This is an extremely
far reaching discussion.
I wonder whether the complexity of maintaining engineered machines
is a property inherent to all engineering or is this complexity a symptom
of poor planning?
Perhaps a disproportionate attention to 'functionality' over
'maintainability' (caused by greed and short-sightedness?) is the root of
the problem.
Marty
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: KDE and KOffice
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 18:32:10 GMT
I would cool your heels about Koffice for a while. I just compiled a
recent snapshot(koffice/kdelibs-19990302-source-qt14) of the beast and
was disappointed. There were no serious problems with the compilation
but the resulting code was extremely buggy. Believe the folks at KDE
when they describe Koffice as being in alpha release. I am not a software
developer but from what I've seen of the package, I doubt whether an
official release will be out by the end of the year. Wie schade.
-- brattkus
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Does anyone here use KDE and have KOffice installed? I am a Linux
> newbie with KDE1.1-0.1 installed and running on my system. However,
> I'm interested in installing KOffice, which is said to require (plus a
> bunch of other stuff) the development version of KDE libs, which is
> ver 1.1-3. My question is: can I just download the RPM for
> kdelib.xxx.i386.rpm and rpm -Uvh that, or do I have to download the
> whole collection of kde*****.i.386 (base, support, apps, etc) RPMs to
> use KOffice?
>
> Pls email if possible... thanks for any advice.
>
> rhi
>
>
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From: Jason Clifford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: More bad news for NT
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 14:17:09 +0000
On Wed, 10 Mar 1999, it was written:
> >With a decent OS there is no real need for any UI at all on the server. The
> >UI belongs on the sysadmin's workstation.
>
> Dang.... somebody better explain that to Novell then, Netware5 has a GUI on
> its server, based on something called fvwm2. By the way the workstation based
> sysadmin tools are a lot easier to use.
fvwm2 is a window manager for X Windows. Sounds like Novell may be using
XFree86 (or a similar X) to provide the GUI.
X is not required though and functionality would not be affected by
removing it.
Jason Clifford
Definite Linux Systems
http://definite.ukpost.com/
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Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 13:42:14 -0800
From: Anne Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: flames@/dev/null
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,linux.admin.isp,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Please Help - Linux Market Research
> John P. DeFonso wrote:
>
> Is anyone aware of sources of market research for linux servers?
>
> Things like:
>
> % of total servers that linux operates on
> % of unix servers that are linux
> growth rate % for linux servers
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> John DeFonso
Check first with netcraft, then read the news at www.redhat.com, they
always seem to be siting statistics compiled by various groups.
Anne
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthew Fleming)
Subject: g77: "crtbegin.o not found"
Date: 10 Mar 1999 20:48:09 GMT
Netters,
I have just switched to SuSE 6.0 from an earlier version (6.0 is the
first SuSE distribution that uses glibc). I am trying compile programs
that include C and Fortran sources with g77. When g77 is used on the
linker line, I get the following error message:
crtbegin.o not found
I have no idea what this means. Anyone know what this is and how to
fix it? (E-mail response appreciated.)
Thanks,
Matthew Fleming
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Associate Professor fax : 414.456.6518
Department of Dermatology s-mail: Dept. of Dermatology
Medical College of Wisconsin Medical College of Wisconsin
MFRC Room 4061
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Milwaukee, WI 53226-4810
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From: Jim Howes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Direct access via net to root shell
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 17:40:59 +0000
I need to provide a means whereby a user can telnet from
a machine to a service on a linux box that drops them
straight into a root shell, probably bash.
I.e.
bash$ telnet box 12345
Trying 123.45.67.89
Connected to foo.bar.com
#
I tried running telnetd with "-L /flash/bin/bash" and all
it does it print usage stuff at me.
This is for an embedded system to which the only practical connection
is via ethernet*. It runs on a singleboard computer, controlling
a load of other equipment, in a secure area.
We are running from a flash disk which doesn't shine in the free
space department, (being 4Mb in total) so I don't really have room
for login, passwd, and all it's associated baggage.
(Actually, we run from an initial ramdisk, booted from the flash.
The flash is mounted on /flash, linuxrc never exits, so we never
mount 'real' a root fs.)
Alternatively, I already have a server for our own application
that could handle the initial connection, and, when given some
command or other from the telnet'ing user, could launch a shell,
how can I get it run exec a shell with its stdin/stdout going to
the socket that the server has opened. I suspect I have to do
something with a pty, but I don't have any experience in that
area (yet).
Jim Howes
Prosig Limited
*: Actually, we could plug a keyboard, monitor, fdd and HD into
it, but when it's sealed it's enclosure, packed in amongst all
the other hardware we've stacked up on it's PC/104 connector,
getting to all these connectors is just a tad difficult.
(We also don't want to spoil the customer's impression that it's
a magic black box)
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From: Seth Van Oort <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Bizarre "find" process running under owner "nobody"
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 19:55:38 +0000
Dr Paul Kinsler wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Few times a day I hear my machine (Linux 5.2 RedHat) working hard without me
> > doing anything special.]
> > Running "top" I can se a very heavy "find" process running, consuming a lot of
> > cpu and owned by "nobody".
> > Does anybody knows where is the "trigger" of this process? is it some sort of
> > a "cron"?, housekeeping work etc.?? Where can I find the files that
> > configure and invoke this process (or others??).
>
> Isn't this updatedb being run by cron? (man updateb, man cron)
It is.
Seth
>
> --
> ------------------------------+------------------------------
> Dr. Paul Kinsler
> Institute of Microwaves and Photonics
> University of Leeds (ph) +44-113-2332089
> Leeds LS2 9JT (fax)+44-113-2332032
> United Kingdom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> WEB: http://www.ee.leeds.ac.uk/staff/pk/P.Kinsler.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phil)
Crossposted-To: ibmnet.general,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux setup
Date: 10 Mar 1999 21:36:42 GMT
Reply-To: /dev/null
Georges Heinesch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Some Linux networking question ;))
>When dialing into IBM, I get a dynamic IP. Hence my computer can be
>addresses with (e.g.) "slip-111-111-111-111.lux.lu.ibm.net". Now, I
>would like to call my computer "foobar", so that I can access it
>without knowing the IP address. The call would be
>"foobar.lux.lu.ibm.net".
Actually, your computer can be addressed as 111.111.111.111
since that's your name for all practical purposes.
>Is it possible to configure Linux that way?
Sure, but you need to register your name with NIC
and convince some unwitting ISP to host you.
Best thing is to use a script to update an html file
at your ISP with your dynamic IP address whenever you
connect and then when you are connected anyone who
knows to look there can connect to your box. Voila!
Your name "foobar" or whatever is just for show unless
it is registered... and you had better check and make sure
no one else has registered that name so that if by some
quirk you mess up good you don't hose the owner of the
name!
Phil
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From: David Kirkpatrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: ibmnet.general,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux setup
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 16:18:01 +0000
You can configure linux to use ppp and receive dynamic addresses from
your ISP? When you say call what exactly do you mean? and access it
from where - an intranet or the internet? If your somewhere on the
internet on another machine it will tough getting a DNS to resolve a
dynamic ip on your machine. If its an intranet then you'll have a
network card and a fixed address so be able to access it.
d
Georges Heinesch wrote:
>
> Some Linux networking question ;))
>
> When dialing into IBM, I get a dynamic IP. Hence my computer can be
> addresses with (e.g.) "slip-111-111-111-111.lux.lu.ibm.net". Now, I
> would like to call my computer "foobar", so that I can access it
> without knowing the IP address. The call would be
> "foobar.lux.lu.ibm.net".
>
> I was looking into many books, many man pages, many files
> (/etc/resolv.conf, ...), but didn't get an answer.
>
> Is it possible to configure Linux that way?
>
> --
> Cu Georges Heinesch, Luxembourg
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.geocities.com/yosemite/2480
> PGP 2.6.3i / 5.1i public key on request and on public servers
>
> ... never touch a running system ...
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