Linux-Misc Digest #403, Volume #27               Tue, 20 Mar 01 12:13:04 EST

Contents:
  Using RAID with Redhat and similar (bill davidsen)
  pcmcia initialization befor eth0 ("William Bilancio")
  printing (Michael Roy Fox)
  Re: problems with netscape 4.75 and 4.76 (Jay & Shell)
  Re: Redirect stdout from background process started in shell script??? (Pat Hennessy)
  Re: Best Centralized Performance Monitor - Solaris/Linux/AIX/UX/NT-2000..??? 
(Jeremiah DeWitt Weiner)
  Re: Repartitioning Linux Partitions (Rod Smith)
  Re: Redirect stdout from background process started in shell script??? ("Peter T. 
Breuer")
  Re: Anyone know about Aureal Semiconductor? ("Michael")
  Re: pcmcia initialization befor eth0 (Stan McCann)
  Re: Help: Howto setup dialin server (Dustin Puryear)
  Re: Problems with tar tape backups (Herman Lankreijer)
  Perfect Free Linux IPS ("Arctic Storm")
  Re: /dev/null removed (Andre Kostur)
  Re: Instructions for installing 3com NIC Driver (Jerry Gluck)
  Re: pcmcia initialization befor eth0 (Robert Heller)
  Re: Beowulf cluster w/ virtual Linuxes in VMWare ? (Andre Kostur)
  Re: egrep & uuschk (Christopher Albert)
  Re: HELP: Netscape preferences (Claudio Bley)
  Re: RH 6.2 upgrade: libdb-3.1.so : What is this?? (Christopher Albert)
  eth4, eth5?? ("Rick")
  Re: Perfect Free Linux IPS (Arctic Storm)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bill davidsen)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Using RAID with Redhat and similar
Date: 20 Mar 2001 14:30:26 GMT

In the Redhat installer, there is a feature to defaine a RAID partition.
All well and good, but how do you define a couple of partions and then
*use* them in the install.

I have a system with two small drives. With Slackware I can (pretty
manually) divide the drives as follows:

             SWAP    RAID-0 /
  /dev/hda: |====|------------------------|
                         ^
                         | striped
                         v
  /dev/hdb: |----|------------------------|
            /boot   RAID-0 /

Now neither drive has enough space for even a small install, I've looked
at putting /var and/or /usr on one and / on the other, etc. I just can't
seem to find the trick to get the Redhat install to configure and
activate the striped filesystem over the two drives.

I assume this is possible, no one would put in half an option to define
a RAID partition which can't be used after you define it (would they?),
so I assume I'm missing something.

-- 
  bill davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  CTO, TMR Associates, Inc
At LinuxExpo Sun was showing Linux applications running on Solaris.
They don't get it, the arrow points the other way. There's a reason why
there's no SolarisExpo, Solaris is a tool; Linux is a philosophy, a
religion, a way of life, and only incidentally an operating system.

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From: "William Bilancio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: pcmcia initialization befor eth0
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 08:21:20 -0500

I have installed Red Hat 6.2 on a Compaq LTE5000 laptop.  My question is how
do I get the PCMCIA script to run before the eth0 card is initialized since
it's a pcmcia 3com card.  When I set the network card up bootup hangs at
eth0.

William Bilancio



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From: Michael Roy Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: printing
Date: 20 Mar 2001 09:54:23 -0500

Hi,

Can anyone tell me how to set up a printer in linux?  I have Linux 2.4.2 and a DeskJet 
842c.  I have set up parallel and serial port as modules.  If someone could give me 
step by step instructions, that would be very helpful. 

Thanks,
Michael

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From: Jay & Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: problems with netscape 4.75 and 4.76
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 15:01:19 GMT

I had the exact same problem, as well as one other user out there. No
one ever told me a fix. But this is what I did. Might be a hassel but
this is how I fixed it:

Use Kpackage and uninstall Netscape Common and Netscape (Do not delete
the dependencies).Install 4.73 again, and run it, setup your address
book make sure it doesn't close when you start a new msg. Then uninstall
4.73 common, and the main. Again DO NOT delete the dependencies.
Reinstall 4.76 and all should be fine.

Like I said I don't know any other way but this did work for me. It only
takes 3 minutes to do so good luck.
I haven't tried using .tar.gz so there might be an easier way.

Sorry hope this helps.


richard noel fell wrote:
> 
> An annoying problem has surfaced with netscape 4.75 and 4.76 which I am
> running on redhat 7.0. When I start a new message and then open the
> address book, Netscape crashes when I click on the entry to whom I am
> addressing the email.
>     I have tried reinstallilng the software, but this does no good, even
> after removing the .netscape directory, in addition to using rpm to
> remove the installation.
>     Has anyone seen this behavior and know of a workaround? I could use
> netscape 6.0, which I tried as an experiment. This worked fine but it
> seems so slow in comparison to 4.75(6).
> Thanks,
> Dick Fell

-- 
Registered Linux user #192969

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From: Pat Hennessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Redirect stdout from background process started in shell script???
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:00:56 -0500

"Peter T. Breuer" wrote:

> Pat Hennessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Here is the offending line:
>
> >               xterm -e ./process > /tmp/myPipe &
>
> > It turns out that it's not a script problem.  I have issued this command
>
> It doesn't turn out that way at all.
>
> > from a terminal window and the redirection fails in that case also.  It
>
> It works perfectly in both cases. Your problem is that xterm produces no
> useful output on stdout.
>
> > seems that the xterm program cannot process the redirection.
>
> ?? programs (whether xterm or not!) never process redirections. That's
> what the shell does. You seem to be confused.

Yes I was confused since it seems that running the xterm program does indeed
start a new
shell as well.  I guess what I meant above was that even though the -e option
to the xterm
program seems to pass the process to the new shell to run, the -e option
wasn't smart enough
to pass the redirection operator to the shell as well, and it's obvious (now
anyway) that keeping it
for itself doesn't do any good.


>
>
> > What I am trying to accomplish is the ability to have my users start a
> > suite of programs by just double-clicking on an icon.  The icon on the
>
> All the icon has to do is run a little shell script that
> starts all the right things up in the background.
>
> > desktop is a link to a script file that starts each program in its own
> > xterm with predefined size/location.  The xterm windows will display
>
> That's exactly right.
>
> > stdout, but all the programs' stderrs will be redirected/multiplexed
>
> Eh? What programs' stderrs? How?
>
> > into a single named pipe.  Some other program will read the named pipe
> > for an integrated log/display (on a different machine).
>
> > Thanks for any suggestions.
>
> do what you said to do:
>
>   xterm -e "sh -c './process 2>/tmp/myPipe' " &

Many thanks for this suggestion!!  It turns out that the double quotes around
"sh ... " aren't necessary
(and, in fact, it won't work with them), but things work just great when they
are removed:

               xterm -e sh -c '/process 2>/tmp/myPipe' &





>
>
> and watch out for stdin.
>
> Peter


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From: Jeremiah DeWitt Weiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Best Centralized Performance Monitor - Solaris/Linux/AIX/UX/NT-2000..???
Date: 20 Mar 2001 15:13:07 GMT

Mike Boiko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Many times I've seen the need to monitor the performance (ie. CPU,
> memory, disk, etc..) of multiple servers...running different OS's...

        Big Brother (www.bb4.com) is pretty good and can be set up to monitor
a whole bunch of things.  The only thing that may concern you is that the 
central, 'server' portion can only run on Unix (the monitoring client part
can run on NT/2K).


> PLEASE REPLY BACK TO ME AT:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  - Thanks...

        Question here, reply here.  That's how Usenet works.

JDW


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Repartitioning Linux Partitions
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 15:19:44 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Posted and mailed]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi,
> 
> My computer currently has 3 primary partitions and 1 extended partition.  
> The first 2 are used by Win2K.  The 3rd is used by Linux.  I would like to 
> create a 4th partition by getting some space from the extended Linux 
> partition. How can I do this without destroying any of my data ?

The x86 partitioning scheme only supports four primary partitions, and
the extended partition counts as one of these. Therefore, you can't do
what you're asking about -- at least, not without using unusual
utilities that essentially store multiple incomplete partition tables
and swap them in and out to make different sets of primary partitions
available.

I suggest you post information on why you want to do this. Unless it's
to boot another OS that requires a primary partition, chances are you
can do it in a logical partition. For that, there are various partition
resizing programs available, like Partition Magic
(http://www.powerquest.com).

-- 
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Redirect stdout from background process started in shell script???
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 16:18:37 +0100

Pat Hennessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
>>   xterm -e "sh -c './process 2>/tmp/myPipe' " &

> Many thanks for this suggestion!!  It turns out that the double quotes around
> "sh ... " aren't necessary
> (and, in fact, it won't work with them), but things work just great when they
> are removed:

>                xterm -e sh -c '/process 2>/tmp/myPipe' &

You are correct. I misremembered the -e option as taking a command. In
fact it notifies xterm that the rest of the line is a command:

   -e program [ arguments ... ]
           This option specifies the program (and its command line
           arguments) to be run in the xterm window.  It also sets the
           window title and icon name to be the basename of the program
           being executed if neither -T nor -n are given on the command
           line.  This 
 
Peter

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From: "Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Anyone know about Aureal Semiconductor?
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 09:22:24 -0600

Try http://sourceforge.net/projects/aureal/
==================
"Ethan M. Schwartz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9968jt$j1l$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> they went out of business a while ago...
>
> "Shekhar Patkar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Hi,
> >
> > Does anyone know what happened to Aureal Semiconductor? I
> > have an A3D card in my system, and the driver doesn't work
> > with kernel 2.4.2. I'm trying to fix it and have some problems,
> > but when I try to look for their web site, it looks like the
> > company has disappeared!
> >
> > Would appreciate any pointers ...
> > Thanks,
> > Shekhar
>
>



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From: Stan McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: pcmcia initialization befor eth0
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 08:18:03 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

William Bilancio wrote:
> 
> I have installed Red Hat 6.2 on a Compaq LTE5000 laptop.  My question is how
> do I get the PCMCIA script to run before the eth0 card is initialized since
> it's a pcmcia 3com card.  When I set the network card up bootup hangs at
> eth0.
> 
> William Bilancio

I just had this problem with Suse 7.1 and an old ProStar 6200 with a
Linksys NIC.  All I had to do to straighten it out was to remove the
card and the settings for the card.  Then I replaced the card without
the settings and booted up so that cardmgr recognized the card.  Set up
eth0 again and at least Suse's YAST put the card setup back after
cardmgr is started.

HTH
Stan McCann

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dustin Puryear)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,alt.linux
Subject: Re: Help: Howto setup dialin server
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 09:40:39 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Tue, 20 Mar 2001 04:05:07 GMT, David. E. Goble <goble@gtech> wrote:
>Hi All;
>
>Iam still getting the error "could not dertermine local ip"
>
>Iam trying to get get a remote computer to dialin and connect to my
>server.

Where is the configuration for the remote peer? 

Regards, Dustin

-- 
Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
http://members.telocity.com/~dpuryear
Integrate Linux Solutions into Your Windows Network
- http://www.prima-tech.com/integrate-linux


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From: Herman Lankreijer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problems with tar tape backups
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 17:20:45 +0100

Hi,

I got the same problem as you have with Linux Kernel 2.2.x (Caldera 2.4
eDesktop). HW Pentium Pro 200, 2490 UW Adaptec and a brand new Tandberg
SLR 100GB tape drive. The just reproduced the same error on an old
TANDBERG SLR 3 tape drive (same PC). When the error occurs the 3 lights
of the tape drive are burning (SCSI bus reset ????). Furthermore  when
the 'mt -f /dev/st0' status or 'mt -f /dev/mt1 status' on the second
tape drive is executed also I/O error occurs. No messages were written
in the system log file.

Only a reboot allowed again access to the tape drives. With a small
dataset (14 MB) it work fine with the same commands. Also a tape listing
worked fine.

Used commands:

tar -cvZf /dev/st0 (to write)
tar -ivZf /dev/st0 (to list files)

I also had problems using cpio, during backup some files had following
message added:

truncating inode number

At the end also the message occured: broken pipe

Used commands: 

find . -print | cpio -ov -O /dev/st0                    (writing the backup)
cpio -ivt -I /dev/st0                                   (listing the backup)
find . -print | cpio -ov -C 32768 | compress > /dev/st0 (writing the
backup)
compress -d < /dev/st0 | cpio -iv -C 32768              (listing the backup)

Who knows what this can be ????

Thanks in advance,

Herman Lankreijer (The flying dutchman)





Martin Pelikan wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I am trying to make backups of our home directory, and I have tried it a number
> of times by simply running
> 
> mt -f /dev/st0 rewind
> tar -cvpf /dev/st0 --label=" tape1 (home1,extra3) backup created on `date
> '+%d-%B-%Y'`." /home
> 
> The problem is that at some point, the backup crashes with a message:
> 
> tar: Cannot write to /dev/st0: Input/output error
> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
> 
> It crashes at different files almost every time (sometimes close to the
> beginning sometimes almost at the end) and sometimes it succeeds (but very
> rarely, just once in fact).
> 
> The home is about 5 gigs big. Should I try to make changes in some other options
> of tar like block size or anything else to get this to work? What may be the
> problem? Can it be a problem when the particular file that is being written to
> the tape is modified as it is being written or anything like that? Thanks for
> your help!
> 
> Martin
> 
> ----------------------------------------------
>  Martin Pelikan
>  Illinois Genetic Algorithms Laboratory
>  University of Illinois at Urbana Champaign
>  117 Transportation Building
>  104 S. Mathews Avenue, Urbana, IL 61801
>  tel: (217) 333-2346, fax: (217) 244-5705
> ----------------------------------------------

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From: "Arctic Storm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Perfect Free Linux IPS
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 16:32:43 GMT

Perfect Free Linux IPS
There's a financial institution called JB Oxford that's giving away free
internet
service to their clients.  All you have to do is maintain a cash balance of
$2000,
which accrues interest, and you get free internet access.
I invested $2000 into their saving's account, and now, I have free 56k modem
internet
access.  The $2000 is, of course, not lost.  It's in a saving's account and
accrues
interest, just as it would in a regular bank account.
The beautify of this free ISP is that there's no advertizing banners or
anything like
that.
I originally opened the account when I was using Windows, so I just used the
same
phone number, DNS, etc., when I setup the Linux ppp dial up.
Enjoy!




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Subject: Re: /dev/null removed
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andre Kostur)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 16:45:41 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl) wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 

>Since /dev/null (special file) is a hard to fill up one (I keep trying
>though) I don't see the problem.
>
>If there's none, though then I'm willing to argue about the # of daemons
>which would create one, special or, even worse, normal file, out of the
>blue. 

You missed the start of the thread.... the start was that a sysadmin had 
his /dev/null device file removed somehow, and was wondering how to 
recreate it.  Then the discussion about daemons which may have their output 
redirected to /dev/null may end up creating a normal file called /dev/null 
and filling up the root filesystem...

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From: Jerry Gluck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Instructions for installing 3com NIC Driver
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 11:04:49 -0500

arman96 wrote:

> I just rebooted and put in the same line to mount the floppy "mount -t
> vfat
> /dev/fd0  /mnt/floppy" and now it say "fs type not supported by kernel. I
> work last time What is going on?????
> 
> 
You want to use "-t msdos". vfat is for hard disks greater than (I believe) 
512 Mbytes. If you use mdir and mcopy, you do NOT mount the drive.

HTH,

-Jerry

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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: pcmcia initialization befor eth0
Date: 20 Mar 2001 16:57:10 GMT

  "William Bilancio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  In a message on Tue, 20 Mar 2001 08:21:20 -0500, wrote :

"B> I have installed Red Hat 6.2 on a Compaq LTE5000 laptop.  My question is how
"B> do I get the PCMCIA script to run before the eth0 card is initialized since
"B> it's a pcmcia 3com card.  When I set the network card up bootup hangs at
"B> eth0.

You need to configure eth0 NOT to be setup at Boot time.  The PCMCIA
daemon will run the if-up and if-down scripts itself.  If the card is
in the system at boot time, the PCMCIA daemon will detect it when the 
PCMCIA daemon starts and run the if-up script.   If the card is in
during shutdown, the PCMCIA daemon will run the if-down script before it
shuts itself down.  You will get the *behavior* you want.

"B> 
"B> William Bilancio
"B> 
"B> 
"B>                                                           






                                                            
-- 
                                     \/
Robert Heller                        ||InterNet:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://vis-www.cs.umass.edu/~heller  ||            [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.deepsoft.com              /\FidoNet:    1:321/153

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Subject: Re: Beowulf cluster w/ virtual Linuxes in VMWare ?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andre Kostur)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 16:50:32 GMT

Arctic Storm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
<qqPs6.7952$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 

>> > With VMWare, of course it's possible to run multiple virtual Linuxes
>> > simultaneously, but is it possible to create a Beawulf cluster among
>> > the virtual machines?
>> > If theoretically possible, has anyone successfully ran this virtual
>> > Beowulf?
>> 
>> I suppose you could, but since the virtual machines only have
>> virtual cpu's and in reality all share the host cpu there's not
>> much point unless you have a multiprocessor machine and assign
>> each VMware session a separate cpu.
>
>I want to know if this is possible, theoretically.  I know that there
>will be no performance gain, since all the virtual computers are ran by
>the same CPU.  I want to tinker around and have fun with Beowulf, but
>don't want to invest in new computers just for fun.

I was actually going to point out that the resultant Beowulf cluster would 
be pointless as a Beowulf cluster as the performance would actually be 
worse than using a single Linux box (virtual or otherwise), then you 
mentioned it yourself... :)   But theoretically I don't see any problems 
with creating such a virtual Beowulf cluster for testing out clustering....

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From: Christopher Albert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: egrep & uuschk
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 18:00:32 +0100

percy wrote:
> 
> hi,
>   after a long days, my redhat system auto run the egrep & uuschk. i dont
> know why they run and i can not kill them.
>   another problem is the bash run 2 times for every login. if i kill the 1st
> , i will logout. i think that it ok. but the other one, i kill it and it
> will run again.
>   who can help me?
> 
> Percy
> 
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Percy,

What is "uuschk" ? It is not a utility delivered with RH.
It does not show up on google/linux.

What version of RH do you have?
When did this happen?
What were you doing before this happened?
Do you have cron jobs running?
What do the logs say?
Is your box connected to the internet?

You need to read up on basic linux tools to find out what is going on
and then tell us more.

Chris

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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat
Subject: Re: HELP: Netscape preferences
From: Claudio Bley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 20 Mar 2001 18:02:22 +0100

wroot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi,
> 
> I need to get my Netscape 4.7 to to play *.au files when I click on links 
> to them. In command prompt I play them with
> 
> play *.au
> 
> In Edit/Preferences/Netscape/Applications, what should I put in
> 
> 1) Description
Anything might be okay (maybe "Sun Audio file" or whatsoever)

> 2) MIMEType
audio/x-pn-au

> 3) Suffixes
au

> 4) Application
/usr/bin/play "%f" 

or

/usr/bin/play "%s"

the difference is that the first downloads the file first (temporary)
and then plays it, the second usually streams the file while playing.
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> Wroot

HTH
Claudio

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From: Christopher Albert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RH 6.2 upgrade: libdb-3.1.so : What is this??
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 18:04:43 +0100

Cosmo Lee wrote:
> 
> I'm trying to upgrade my RH 6.2 Update Agent, per instructions on their
> webpage http://www.redhat.com/network/service/rhl_62.html
> 
> I follow the instructions to run `rpm` on the downloaded packages.
> However, I get a message that certain packages require "libdb-3.1.so"
> 
> I searched my two RH cds, in the RPMS directory, but I can't find such a
> package.
> 
> What is it, and how can I get this???
> 
> Thanks!

Cosmo,
It is not a package; its a library.
If you go to rpmfind.net or one of its mirrors and tap in the name of
that library in the search engine you'll see which package it belongs
to; and then you can get an appropriate rpm from that same site (which
mirrors the redhat site).

Chris

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From: "Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.unix.programmer,comp.os.linux.networking,alt.os.linux,comp.dcom.net-management,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: eth4, eth5??
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 01:01:46 +0800

Hello all,
I managed to configure up to only 4 NICs in my Linux Mandrake 7.2 kernel
2.2.17 server.
However I need to go up to 5 (or perhaps 6). However, linuxconf's Adaptor 5
which is supposedly eth4 cannot be initialised. Meaning;

/etc/rc.d/init.d/network restart gave:
..........
..........
Bringing up interface eth3: OK
Bringing up interface eth4: Delaying eth4 initialization. FAILED.


How do i get eth4 to work properly??


Regards.





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From: Arctic Storm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Perfect Free Linux IPS
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 17:08:59 GMT

> Perfect Free Linux IPS
> There's a financial institution called JB Oxford that's giving away free
> internet
> service to their clients.  All you have to do is maintain a cash balance
> of $2000,
> which accrues interest, and you get free internet access.
> I invested $2000 into their saving's account, and now, I have free 56k
> modem internet
> access.  The $2000 is, of course, not lost.  It's in a saving's account
> and accrues
> interest, just as it would in a regular bank account.
> The beautify of this free ISP is that there's no advertizing banners or
> anything like
> that.
> I originally opened the account when I was using Windows, so I just used
> the same
> phone number, DNS, etc., when I setup the Linux ppp dial up.
> Enjoy!

I meant to type "Perfect Free Linux ISP".
It was a typo.


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