Linux-Misc Digest #430, Volume #19 Fri, 12 Mar 99 18:13:08 EST
Contents:
Re: Help: No man pages in Debian 2.1? (John Hasler)
linux to windows (Robert Koechl)
Re: hacked login (telnet) (Colin)
Re: Pentium III Boycott and survey info ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Kernel Panic: No init found. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
I've seen the light [was Re: AOL Instant Messanger for UNIX] (Mykool)
Letter Header!!! (David)
Re: trn takes too long to get overview file (Wlmet)
Re: [Q] How do I change my timezone setting? ("J�rgen Exner")
Learn the truth - In Dear Recruiter we establish exactly what a recruiter does.
(QualifiedConsultant)
Re: Printing man or xman pages (Paul Kimoto)
Re: Real Audio ? (Richard Finney)
Re: Some questions (Paul Kimoto)
Ftp by mail question (Marco Santos)
Re: Probably Dumb Newbie Linux/NT Question (Jason McKnight)
Re: Dont understand Configuration message (Chetan Ahuja)
Would a 'fuzzy logic' converter from Word to TeX be possible? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Extended partition help ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Ftp by mail question (Tommy Willoughby)
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help: No man pages in Debian 2.1?
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 16:37:17 GMT
Bill wrote:
> With the help of people in these groups, I finally chose a distribution and
> installed it, Debian 2.1. But the command I had hoped to use to help start
> learning what it's all about and how it works is missing. When I type man,
> I get an error message like bash: no such command.
I suspect that you have installed only the base system, which includes just
enough stuff to install the rest. Do you have a CD, or did you install
over the Net?
Run dselect and install the standard packages. That will get you all the
basic stuff. Then run dselect again and chose more stuff to install. Just
install a few packages at a time, and do *not* attempt to install all
packages. Tell dselect to use the 'apt' method.
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Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 15:47:24 +0100
From: Robert Koechl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: linux to windows
Hi
I would like to integrate a linux box into an existing windows NT
network (not as a server but as a workstation). Linux will get its
ip configuration from the NT server via dhcpcd (haven't tried it
until now, but I hope it will work out). In order to make it possible
for windows users to access files on the linux machine I want to install
samba. However, I don't know if it is it possible to access the windows
shares from the linux box? Can I use samba? I would be grateful
if someone could give me some hints on how to do this.
Many thanks
Rob
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.networking,linux.admin.isp
From: Colin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: hacked login (telnet)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 12:51:15 -0500
True, it's the news reader I use for another newsgroup(1)
and I usually edit it out. Missed it this time.
My repologies.
--
Why gain the world but lose your soul?
Wisdom is much better than silver and gold.
(1)ITYKWGIM
}
}[Now really Colin, there is no need to say a "luser drooled".
} Its really disrespecful and insulting. LART yourself ]
}
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Pentium III Boycott and survey info
Date: 12 Mar 1999 17:54:54 GMT
DaZZa ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Apparently, if you use these two products in conjunction with each other,
: every single Word document and Excel spreadsheet you create will have a 32
: bit number encoded into the document which contains
So there you go kids. Always use vim/elvis/(x)emacs/<insert your favourite
editor here> under a free OS to author any documents that are critical of
M$ :)
Paranoid, moi ?
IAP
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Kernel Panic: No init found.
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 02:26:40 GMT
>--> FS: Mounted root (ext2 files system) readonly.
>--> Freeing unused kernel memory: 92k freed
>--> Kernel Panic: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel.
After many days of trying to get a scsi raid on line I finally got
the 2.2.3 kernel to see all the luns on the raid, but I ended up with
the Kernel Panic. I have spent many hours seaching and reading
docs and have found that many other people are having the same error.
Tho it may be in diffrent parts of the boot process, the three lines above
show up in most listings of errors involving kernel panic & init. And the
freeing of kernel memory is a brand new message to me, first I have seen
it past 5 years of linux use, is this a result of something else? or is
this the problem?
I can boot the 2.0.23-0.7(or something like that, orginal cd install)
with the new scsi luns powered down, but I can not boot the recompiled
2.2.3 kernel with(or without?) the new luns. It sees the partion
/dev/sda1, which is the root dev, and I have even set root=/dev/sda1
on the lilo command line to no avail. I don't think it is a currupted
/sbin/init (a FAQ responce to a bsd kernel panic init error) or maybe
(2.0.23)/sbin/init is not compatable with 2.2.3?
Anyone else solved this problem with kernel panic & init?
Thanks in advance for any help or comments!
Brian McCullough
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From: Mykool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: I've seen the light [was Re: AOL Instant Messanger for UNIX]
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 20:31:06 +0000
I have found what I consider the best AIM client. I've been using tik
for god knows how long. Almost everything was working fine. At first
sound was ok. Then it sounded horrible. And recently none at all. I
have no idea of the problem. I know tcl doesn't have native sound
support, but it used to work, oh well. I have found GAIM. It is a gtk
based AIM client and it is great. I've used it for about a day now and
am pretty happy with it. If anyone knows any negatives please share
them. Otherwise, I highly suggest this AIM client.
Ed Young wrote:
>
> eric wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I was wondering if AOL Instant messanger for unix will work with
> > Linux, more specific, Slackware 3.6?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Eric
>
> I use tik. Comes in an rpm for RedHat. I imagine it comes in a tar.gz for
> Slackware. Check out www.aol.com perhaps...
--
Michael Barnhill
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http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gte294f
ICQ 13526262
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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Letter Header!!!
Date: 12 Mar 1999 20:34:41 GMT
I wonder if there is a way we can hide the original host from our
letter header ...example mine is from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
in the header letter below.
Thanks for any help.
David.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wlmet)
Subject: Re: trn takes too long to get overview file
Date: 12 Mar 1999 17:53:50 GMT
>>
>>I am trying to use trn for linux, Slackware 3.5. After hitting the + it
>takes
>>forever to get the overview file.
>>
>>Getting overview file.........................
>>
>>The dots take forever.
>>
>
>For how many articles? And how long is forever? It does need this
>information before it can sort the articles into threads. Also, this
>depends on how fast your link to the news server is and how fast the
>server itself is.
>
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Forever is considerably longer than Netscape takes to display messages.
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From: "J�rgen Exner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Q] How do I change my timezone setting?
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 09:42:46 -0800
Reply-To: "J�rgen Exner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Kevin Yi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Anyone know how I would change the system timezone setting?
May I suggest to consult the Linux FAQ, question
* 7.3 How do I set the time zone?
jue
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From: QualifiedConsultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.pascal.borland,comp.lang.perl.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Learn the truth - In Dear Recruiter we establish exactly what a recruiter
does.
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 14:44:45 GMT
This is the first in a series of documents I will be writing to educate the
computer consulting industry as a whole.
The answer to the question "establish exactly what a recruiter does" is
NOTHING.
*********************
Dear Recruiter,
I understand that you believe that you are accomplishing something in your day
to day work but I have to tell you that you have been fooled.
Who do you receive job positions from? A Human Resources worker at a company.
This same company hired that Human Resources person to find prospective
employees for their company. In essence this Human Resources person is not
doing the job they were hired to do. It seems like you are doing the "job"
that the Human Resources person is not doing themselves. Actually, you do not
have the skills to do the job that the Human Resources person should be
trained and was hired to do. Each company with it's own individual
requirements for each individual job opening. You cannot possibly have the
talent of all of the positions of all of the companies your firm "services".
Without this talent there is no way you could possibly make a knowledgeable
decision. So YOU are not doing the Human Resources persons job either.
So what do you do? Well, without that individual knowledge, you use what is
commonly referred to as "buzzwords". Wait, did I say you actually look for
words on resumes? Well, I surely didn't say that you would actually READ
THEM. (Not even before an interview with the consultant.) But I digress. What
really happened was a CONSULTANT built a program so that the resumes could be
searched by keywords. Keywords = "buzzwords" Makes it real hard to
find...anything. First - you really don't even know what you are looking for.
Next - you are trying to find out if a consultant is qualified for a job you
know nothing about. Is this actually working? Do you have the knowledge to
make these kind of decisions?
Are you doing the job of the consultant? No, you are not. Companies have many
ways to find prospective employees; and consultants "could" utilize those
resources to find CLIENTS. But that is not how it works. I have watched my
local newspaper go from between five and seven pages of computer consulting
job openings down to between one-half and one page of consulting firm "job
openings" in a three year span. Since the job of the human resource person is
not being filled by ANYONE, this is one of the reason companies no longer
advertise. They pick the phone up - call a recruiter - get a free lunch. You
getting the picture here? I bet some human resource employees have had more
paid lunches than the president of the their company.
Another reason is that consulting firms are just like real estate agencies.
The real estate workers drive around and look for houses for sale by owner
and try to talk the owners into paying them a large sum to do very little.
Same tactic - different field, only everybody in the real estate business is
doing a job. So when a company puts a computer consulting ad in the newspaper
they are swamped with calls from recruiters - sales people who want paid a
large sum while having no knowledge of how to accomplish the task. The human
resource person (who was hired to do this job) could very easily do their job
and contact the consultants and post ads in the paper and on the world wide
web. And if they were smart enough they would know how to find consultants
without having to take more of their companies money to pay you.
I can see where you feel like you have accomplished something. I know that if
I could actually do the "job" you do, with the computer CONSULTING mentality
you have, that I would feel great about myself to.
But really are you actually doing anything?
You may not like me but we are all entitled to our opinion and this is my
opinion.
CLIENTS AND COMPANY OWNERS: I charge between $35 and $50 to create MS Access
databases as an independent consultant through telecommuting. How much are the
consulting firms charging you? Please include your Human Resources employees
free lunch we both paid for.
I will except opinions from all QUALIFIED COMPUTER CONSULTANTS. Everyone else
will be ignored.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Printing man or xman pages
Date: 12 Mar 1999 16:17:58 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <7cbsmo$i9f$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Madden wrote:
> Simple question: I can print to my printer with lpr -P[printer]
> [filename] fine,
> but I cannot figure out how to print man or xman pages. I tried to redirect
> the man page to a file and then print it, but the formatting wasn't good.
What formats can your printer handle? It is possible to coerce "man"
to produce PostScript output -- see the "man" man page; probably you
want the "-t" option. (It is also possible to get TeX dvi output;
you may have to invoke groff directly to get that.)
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From: Richard Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Real Audio ?
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 13:41:57 -0500
you have to snoop around on the real audio site to find the freebie
link.
-rf
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Some questions
Date: 12 Mar 1999 16:14:09 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Appleyard wrote:
> (1) If I 'cat' a binary file by mistake, I often end up with a garbaged
> system - all messages and prompts are translated into Klingon - or
> something like it. How do I recover without rebooting? Even exit
> doesn't fix it.
Try typing "reset" [RETURN]. (Ignore the fact that it will appear on the
screen as garbage.)
If it's an xterm that's messed up, you may have to do
control-middle_mouse_button => "Do Full Reset"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco Santos)
Subject: Ftp by mail question
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 14:31:15 GMT
Hello.
I've been reading a FAQ document abou Linux (I'm thinking about
installing it in my PC) and they mention a ftp-by-mail server. How
does this work? I'm trying to get the Hardware-Howto and I do not have
ftp acess.
Marco
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From: Jason McKnight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Probably Dumb Newbie Linux/NT Question
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 14:46:10 -0500
Get the latest kernel. You can compile read-only support into it (or use a
module).
Euan B wrote:
> This has probably been posted 1000's of times before, so apologies to
> everyone :-).
>
> Can Linux read/write to a NTFS partion? If so how do I set it up to do so
> and do I need any other modules / patches to accomplish this.
>
> I have RH5.0 with Kernal 2.036 (I think).
>
> Sorry if I have wasted anyone / everyones time and thanks for any info !!
>
> --
> Euan B
> -------------------
> Disclaimer:
> Any views or opinions expressed in this message are all mine and
> not in any way expressed by GW - Honest
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chetan Ahuja)
Subject: Re: Dont understand Configuration message
Date: 12 Mar 1999 19:53:56 GMT
Charles P. Koerner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: I'm a newbie trying to run RH 5.2.
: Besides connection problems with my ISP, there is one message that I
: can't figure out.
: In "glint" the "Configuration" window states,
: "You have to close all of your available windows and reopen one before
: changing your package directory will have any affect."
: In the "Package path" box "/mnt/cdrom/RedHat/RPMS:
The Package path is the place on your system where you
keep all the rpms ( i.e. Redhat Install files for various software)
usually all the files are on the CDROM so the deafault path points
to thedirectory where the CDROM is mounted. (/mnt/cdrom). But
you could alos have packages on a hard disk or a samba mount
or an NFS mount etc... you get the idea. IF you change the path
in the input box... that's where glint will look for "available"
rpms BUT only the next time you start glint. so "all windows" here
mean ONLY all the glint windows.... not ALL the other programs ( that
would be silly and MS-like right??)
all the best in your adventures.
Chetan
: I understand that I have to close all open windows (?) but the path
: statement mystifies me.
: Just what exactly does it mean? Do I enter the above path name at the #
: prompt, or what?
: Please could someone explain in detailed plain english.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.unix.bsd.misc
Subject: Would a 'fuzzy logic' converter from Word to TeX be possible?
Date: 12 Mar 1999 19:49:23 GMT
Hi,
When I want to create a 'fancy' document, I usually use TeX
(sometimes LaTeX and I've been playing around with LyX a bit). I've never
used MicroSoft Word but I do sometimes get Word Documents emailed to me
and then try to extract the text from them and I've been shocked at what
seems to be their waste of bytes. From what I understand, MicroSoft
changes the formats of Word from time to time in various revisions, making it
a moving target for anybody who wants to import them to a different format.
Does MicroSoft release specifications on Word formats?
Anyway, assuming the worst, that they don't release specifications
and that they do change the format all the time, I was wondering how hard it
would be to write a converter that changed Word documents to something like
TeX? It wouldn't have to create an exact replica when printed, just
something nice. The fuzzy logic part comes from trying to make it so it
wouldn't choke on every little detail of a changing MicroSoft format.
I'm wondering if people out there think:
A) it's doable.
B) it's worth the effort.
C) there are any legal issues.
I'm not planning on doing it myself because, if I knuckle down to
writing some code on my own, I have other things in my queue of ideas, but
then again, if I decide those other things aren't so appealing after all,
I might take a stab at something like this. I'd learn about fuzzy logic
and I could put it on my resume.
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("Moreover, I maintain that Microsoft should not be used." With apologies
to Cato the Elder)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Extended partition help
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 22:36:09 GMT
I have a 1.6 GB and an 8.4 GB hard drive in my computer. on the 1.6,
i have win95 installed. the 8.4 is partitioned to D:, E;, and F:,
each 2GB apiece, and G: running around 1.4 GB. I want to install
Linux on the G: drive so i can use the rest of the big hard drive for
windows purposes. but, disk druid reads the big hard drive with the
first 2 GB parition and then a 6.4GB extended partition. It has the
last 3 partitions clumped into one. I was surprised by this after
hearing how Linux is like the God of computers. Can anyone shed some
light about how i can install linux to the very last parition without
severly gimping up my system? Thanks.
BTW: Does anyone know if the boot manager that comes with partiton
magic 3.03 boots linux? it can't write ext2 file systems, and it was
making me wonder....
Matthew Marks
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Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 11:50:37 -0800
From: Tommy Willoughby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Ftp by mail question
Marco Santos wrote:
>
> Hello.
>
> I've been reading a FAQ document abou Linux (I'm thinking about
> installing it in my PC) and they mention a ftp-by-mail server. How
> does this work? I'm trying to get the Hardware-Howto and I do not have
> ftp acess.
>
> Marco
If you have to ask this question, FTP install is not for you. Get Linux
on a CD-ROM. You're going to want the CD when you botch things up so bad
you have to re-install (which we have all done - because it's one of the
best ways to learn) You can go to:
http://www.cheapbytes.com
and purchase many different distributions for $2. But that gets you the
CD only, no books or anything else.
My personal recommendation would be to buy the official Red Hat Linux in
the blue box. It's one of the easiest to install - maybe the easiest of
all. It comes with a good book (but lots in the book will be beyond you
at this point). Just about everything is supported out of the box, which
means you don't have to re-compile the kernel to get sound support, for
example. And then go to the library & check out some basic books on
*unix* - because there are more basic unix books than Linux books and
the basic commands are the same.
But first - know *everything* about your computer. Have every book and
pamphlet right in front of you. All the pages with all that stuff that
you just flipped past before - like what IRQ does the sound card use -
what chip set is your video card based on. It's not difficult to install
Linux & get it running on most common hardware, and you'll get lots of
help here, but you're going to have to do some reading & studying on
your own.
It's worth the effort in the end - and it's not difficult - but if
you're not willing to invest some time reading you'll just be frustrated
and end up hating it.
So, good luck and we'll all be waiting to hear from you with your first
_how do I do this_ question. :)
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