Linux-Misc Digest #430, Volume #18 Fri, 1 Jan 99 17:13:09 EST
Contents:
Re: Why I choose HP-UX over Linux (Ed Cogburn)
Re: HElp!!! (Dan Nguyen)
Re: help me choose license (steve mcadams)
Re: help me choose license (Mengmeng Zhang)
HElp!!! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Console display problems when logged in as root ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Godzilla or Getright? and Quake2.... (Ulrich Brachvogel)
Re: X based news reader suggestions... (Ashok Aiyar)
Re: Partitioning - NT WON'T BOOT! ("Nicola� Kisselhoff")
Re: Howto signal incoming mail (biff?) (Matthias Warkus)
Re: Q1:Posts Q2:Infection? (Matthias Warkus)
Re: Complimenting WP8 for Linux (Rod Smith)
Re: Please explain nice levels to me. ("J. S. Jensen")
Re: Please explain nice levels to me. (Prasanth Kumar)
Re: Can grep work recursively? (Ryurick M. Hristev)
Help: Can't remove black Vertical lines on X Windows (Jodeman)
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From: Ed Cogburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why I choose HP-UX over Linux
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 15:10:26 -0500
Paul Jimbo Duncan G7KES wrote:
>
> Hi there, and Happy New Year for tommorow evening :-)
>
> Ilya wrote:
> >
> > OK, I feel cold and need flames to warm me up. I want to list the reasons
> > why I prefer HP-UX over Linux.
>
> Sorry, not very good at flames. My first question, how much did you have
> to pay for HP-UX?
>
>[FUD snipped]
If you want a flame war, take this FUD over to comp.os.linux.advocacy
where it belongs, TROLL.
--
Ed C.
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From: Dan Nguyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HElp!!!
Date: 1 Jan 1999 20:28:46 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: I have RedHat 5.2.I am trying to build the kernel. As linux HOWTO says I need
: linux-2.0.36.tar.gz or linux-2.0.36.tar file.I tried to search my harddisk
: and Red Had CDROM.Unfortunately I could not track it down.Please help me find
: as I am pretty sure this must be on CD ROM Thanx in Advance. Santos
Download it from ftp://ftp.kernel.org
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http://www.cse.msu.edu/~nguyend7 | -George Sand
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (steve mcadams)
Subject: Re: help me choose license
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 21:00:16 GMT
On Fri, 1 Jan 1999 14:02:03 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>steve mcadams writes:
>> I have no clue what running a mailing list involves,...
>
>Not too much. JUst install majordomo or one of its competitors.
There is zero chance that I'll set up a news server on my system;
dial-up time is too expensive, and I don't yet know enough about Linux
to prevent myself from getting hacked. I can't spend a few hundred a
month to support a news server so I can give my software away and get
hacked in the process... I may be dumb enough to give it away, but
there are definite limitations on how much I will pay people to take
it off my hands.
>> ...and don't know what a cvs repository is (cvs?)
>
>Revision control on steroids. You need to learn about it ASAP.
Thanks. A friend sent me the information I need re CVS, and also told
me about ways to run a mailing list without running my own news
server.
>> (b) release it as free code for non-commercial use,...
>
>Then it isn't free. The free software community will ignore it.
If it'll be ignored anyway, there's no point in making it free for
non-commercial use.
If this seems to be the consensus, then the thing for me to do is stop
wasting my time trying to figure out how to give it away without
shooting myself in the foot, and write code instead (with the
intention of releasing it only on a proprietary-only basis, or not at
all). This would be easier for me anyway, since I wouldn't need to
write as many comments in the code.
Even though the free software community's participation could help me,
their disinterest (ignorance? whatever) will not affect what I do as
far as writing the code goes. All they can do is fail to benefit from
something they could have had; perhaps that would be a good thing if
we are talking about a bunch of rabid marxists (though I've received
enough offline email to believe that that is not the case in general,
regardless of what a few may espouse). -steve
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mengmeng Zhang)
Subject: Re: help me choose license
Date: 1 Jan 1999 21:06:43 GMT
steve mcadams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: On Fri, 1 Jan 1999 14:02:03 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: >steve mcadams writes:
: >> I have no clue what running a mailing list involves,...
: >
: >Not too much. JUst install majordomo or one of its competitors.
: There is zero chance that I'll set up a news server on my system;
: dial-up time is too expensive, and I don't yet know enough about Linux
: to prevent myself from getting hacked. I can't spend a few hundred a
: month to support a news server so I can give my software away and get
: hacked in the process... I may be dumb enough to give it away, but
: there are definite limitations on how much I will pay people to take
: it off my hands.
Majordomo is not a news server. To say Majordomo is a news server is like
saying mailing lists are the same as Usenet newsgroups. While their intended
purpose may be similar, they are completely different animals. The server/
client software for newsgroups and mailing lists are in completely separate
spheres. (Except for mailing list-newsgroup gateways, but you don't need
to worry about those.)
As far as I know, installing Majordomo does not introduce significant security
risks, since it's basically just a remailer. If you don't want to run it on
your own system, I think there are serveral public mailing list services out
there.
[snip]
HTH,
MZhang
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: HElp!!!
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 19:55:36 GMT
I have RedHat 5.2.I am trying to build the kernel. As linux HOWTO says I need
linux-2.0.36.tar.gz or linux-2.0.36.tar file.I tried to search my harddisk
and Red Had CDROM.Unfortunately I could not track it down.Please help me find
as I am pretty sure this must be on CD ROM Thanx in Advance. Santos
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Console display problems when logged in as root
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 21:24:31 GMT
My previous attempt to reply did not go through for some reason, so I'll try
again.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fred Smith) wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> : A serious problem with ncurses programs has recently developed on my Linux
> : box.
>
> : Whenever I use a program that uses ncurses when I'm logged in as root on a
> : VT, many characters, such as the horizontal and vertical bars, are
> : incorrectly displayed and the screen is as a result badly corrupted, nearly
> : to the point where it is unreadable. I stress that this only happens when I
> : am logged in as root and only when I am on a VT, not in an xterm. Does
> : anyone have any ideas as to what may be causing this and what may be done to
> : fix it? Any help would be greatly appreciated. I am running Red Hat 5.1 on
> : a Dell PPro 200.
>
> Having just installed RH5.2 I noticed that root gets his own set of
> terminfo database files, and that the 'linux' terminal description in
> root's database is different than the one in the main database. Might
> this be your problem?
I can only find one set on my system, in /usr/share/terminfo. Where did you
find them?
I should also mention that the problem does not occur when that linuxconf
startup thingy runs during bootup, only after I have actually logged in as
root.
> I was wondering if that was a bug, or a feature? :^)
>
> Fred
> --
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From: Ulrich Brachvogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Godzilla or Getright? and Quake2....
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 21:29:45 +0100
On Thu, 31 Dec 1998, James Ho wrote:
>Hi.
>
>Is there similar software like Godzilla or Getright for linux? (they
>are win95 software which allows u to resume downloads for a partly
>dl'ed file....and also it looks for faster links from FTPSearch)
>
>Anything like that? I am trying to dump Windoze9x but have to find
>similar software to help my migrate comfortably. :)
>
>Oh..also, I have Quake2 on CD, but it is for PC...how can I play Quake
>2 in Linux? Do I download the shareware version, and then replace the
>.pak files?
>
>Thanks.
>
>James.
With KDE there comes a program "kzilla" which probably does the same as
GO!Zilla under WIN95.
:=))) Ulrich
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ashok Aiyar)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: X based news reader suggestions...
Date: 1 Jan 1999 20:43:35 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 01 Jan 1999 19:27:14 +0000,
Jon D. Slater ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>Can anyone suggest a good x-based news reader?
>
>I've had tons-o-trouble with the netscape news reader.
>
>I'd like uuencode/decode capabilities.
You could try Knews (http://www.matematik.su.se/users/kjj/knews.html).
It supports inline images, and decodes QP, mime-base64, and uuencoded
articles.
I personally prefer running slrn in an xterm. It's fast, quite
powerful and simple to use. (http://space.mit.edu/~davis/slrn.html)
Later,
Ashok
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From: "Nicola� Kisselhoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Partitioning - NT WON'T BOOT!
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 20:04:40 +0100
Its look like the letters of your partition are changed.
A swapp or linux native partitions are invisible for dos, windows and
NT.
In your case, Linux give the hand to the partition who has the HT boot
loader. The boot loader find win on the good partition but not NT
because his partition name changed.
Loock at the win root directory for a file boot.ini or something like
that, idont remember. It is systeme readonly file, change the attribute
and change the letter of NT. Change the attribute.
It has to bot bust NT doesn't find all his file because it is not on his
drive. You can save some stuff.
But you must install NT back.
I don't know better way, it exists maybe.
Good luck.
Nicola�.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Subject: Re: Howto signal incoming mail (biff?)
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 15:20:19 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the Fri, 1 Jan 1999 13:58:18 +0100...
..and Mould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Biff? Well, I never used it, but doesn't it require the user to be logged
> on?
>
> This wouldn'd fit what I need. Imagine a little box without monitor standing
> in a corner of my room and running 24h. What I want is that it beeps, when
> new mail came in. Just like the ringing of a telephone. So, if it "rings" I
> will start Outlook (or whatever) on my Windows-machine and look who dared to
> write a letter to me. Or can that be done with biff?
I'm sorry I misunderstood you.
Perhaps it can't be done with biff, but it surely can be done. Usually,
everytime mail comes in, the comsat daemon is notified of every mail by one
datagram of the form "user@mailbox-offset", where mailbox-offset is an
offset into the mailbox that indicates where the new mail can be found.
It should be possible to hack a server process that runs on the comsat port
and that does not notify users via biff, but just beeps.
Does that help?
mawa
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Subject: Re: Q1:Posts Q2:Infection?
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 15:21:20 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the Fri, 01 Jan 1999 20:51:06 +0900...
..and jose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> When running Linux for days (running experiments with neural
> networks...)
> a background process with "find" begins around 4:45 am. Does anyone
> else
> get something like this?
It's the updatedb process running from the crontab.
It updates your locatedb database. Useful thing.
mawa
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Complimenting WP8 for Linux
Date: 1 Jan 1999 19:13:25 GMT
[Posted and mailed]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phillip Deackes) writes:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Kerry J. Cox wrote:
>
>>What do you all think? Am I out in left field on this one, or are
>>others rejoicing like myself to finally be able to use WP again in a
>>Linux environment.
>>Thanks for letting me pontificate.
>
> Well I downloaded WP8 and was initially impressed. One thing I hated
> though was the look of the screen fonts. Very poor. StarOffice is no
> better. I also have Applixware and the fonts look a lot better and are
> more easily managed.
I've recently added a discussion (with screen shots) of on-screen font
quality to my web page on WordPerfect fonts and printers:
http://www.users.fast.net/~rodsmith/wpfonts.html
The font quality can be improved somewhat, though not quite to the level
of Applix using xfsft-served fonts. (This is for the default fonts, such
as Times and Helvetica; for fonts that you add, the quality of the font
itself will be important, and that may or may not vary from WP to Applix,
depending upon whether you use TrueType fonts for Applix.)
Note that Applix fonts look good in part because the DEFAULT is to use
bitmapped fonts. If they're given any attention at all, a bitmapped font
is likely to look better at its intended screen resolution than a similar
scaleable (Type 1 or TrueType) font, though the best scaleable fonts
(especially TrueType ones) can look very good at screen resolutions. The
drawback to using bitmapped fonts is that they don't scale (or at least
not well), so you're stuck with the resolutions you're given. As an
example, try typing a paragraph into Applix using Times 12 point. Now
scale it up to 13 point. There's no corresponding bitmap for that size,
so the text will remain the same size. It'll still look good, but the
exact positions of characters on the page will no longer be accurate, and
text will seem to end well before the right margin, which can be
confusing if you're not expecting it. This could be a problem in some
situations, like if you're trying to position text so it'll print in the
boxes on a pre-printed form (e.g., the form has text on it already and
you want to run this page through your printer and have your text appear
in appropriate spaces on the form).
Applix's TrueType server doesn't suffer from this problem, of course, and
it does a decent job of rendering TrueType fonts, though not generally
quite as good as xfsft does, in my opinion. As you say, there are other
limitations to this approach which may or may not matter to you. For a
fuller discussion of Applix and its use of fonts, see my web page on that
topic:
http://www.users.fast.net/~rodsmith/fonts.html
> I really like the way the various applications in Applix work together.
> I like the way it *doesn't* look like a Windows app, I like the font
> rendition, I like the configurability and speed of the whole
> application. I suppose in the end it is down to personal choice.
Yup. That and the job to be done. If I need to exchange documents with
Windows users who have WordPerfect, I'd use WP for Linux. If I need
speedy manipulation of text in boxes, I'd use Applix (since WP for Linux
is dog slow at that). There are a whole bunch of other plusses and
minuses, but that's WAY too much for one message! ;-) Fortunately, both
programs do a very good job at most word processing tasks, so unless
you're finicky or have unusual needs, either will do quite well.
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From: "J. S. Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: Please explain nice levels to me.
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 14:40:37 -0700
Johan Kullstam wrote:
> btw are there batch scheduling facilities in unix? i'd like to have a batch
> daemon to which i submit jobs and it fifos them up and runs them. it'd be
> especially useful on a SMP box to keep all CPUs running hot. using a bash
> for loop to run multiple jobs on a SMP machine leaves something to be
> desired.
Have you checked out Queue?
http://www.gnu.org/software/queue/queue.html
I am attempting to use this as system-wide subsystem to implement an IBM
MQSeries-like data distribution system, as well as load balance some of our
batch processing requirements over disparate systems.
One difficulty with `Queue' is that it doesn't have a good utilization of
work-flow, or batch queue routing as the AS/400 queues do. Once I figure out
how to implement this with Queue, then I will let the world know what I did
:-)
I just thought about how nice a Queue sub-system might be on a big SMP
parallel machine. 2 processors it's probably not worth the cpu time, but 8+
would be great.
> (i admit, it'd be nice to attach a kill -CONT to the termination of a
> particular process in order to chain them and not have any CPU downtime.
> this is a weakness of unix, but it is also hard to fix.)
You can do this, unfortunately, must be explicitly done through signal
handlers.
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From: Prasanth Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: Please explain nice levels to me.
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 21:13:22 GMT
J. S. Jensen wrote:
>
> Now it is my understanding of Unix that the nice level is the scheduling
> priority for process in the process table to be used to schedule when
> the proc is runnable.
>
> Now following that logic, a process with a lower nice level (higher
> priority) should always be scheduled to run before a higher nice
> levelled proc.
>
<example snipped>
The effective priority of a process is dependent both on its nice
level *and* how long it has been running. Each process can run a
certain quantum of time before it is prempted and the priorities
re-evaluated. Thus eventually a process with high priority will
seem to have a lower effective priority than a low priority process
which hasn't run much. There are huge variations on this scheme,
each with its advantages and disadvantages.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ryurick M. Hristev)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Can grep work recursively?
Date: 02 Jan 1999 08:12:27 +1300
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brett W. McCoy) writes:
> On Wed, 30 Dec 1998 20:11:35 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >I was wondering if it was possible to make grep work recursively in folders.
> >Is this possible?
>
> grep doesn't recurse directories, but you can hand it a file list that has
> been recursed, such as you would get with find. Here's a simple example
> to find the word 'the' in all files with a .txt extension. You can
> overflow cat this way, though, so experiment around.
>
> cat `find . -path './*.txt'`|grep the
Use rgrep.
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Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 17:07:13 -0500
From: Jodeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Help: Can't remove black Vertical lines on X Windows
Hello,
I'm having problems configuring X Windows on Redhat 5.2. When I start X
Windows, there is a black vertical bar going down the screen with more
smaller vertical lines following to the right until the edge of the
screen. Another problem is that the mouse cursor seems to be 1
centimeter off to the left of where it actually should be.
I'm using a Digital Celebris FX-2 system with a Daewoo CMC-1427x1
14-inch monitor.
Stats for this system is as follows:
P166mhz CPU
32mb RAM
S3 ViRGE/GX graphics
2mb SDRAM
Crystal CS4236B 16-bit Audio
PS/2 2-button Mouse
GVC 56k v.90 modem
For the monitor, during the xf86config, I chose a Generic Monitor.
Vertical Freq Range: 50-100 Hz
Horizontal Freq Range: 31.4-48.3 (according to the manual)
I hope someone out there has had a similar problem and can help me get
rid of those vertical lines & fix the mouse cursor alignment.
Thanks a lot..
Jody
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