Linux-Misc Digest #465, Volume #19               Mon, 15 Mar 99 09:13:14 EST

Contents:
  Lexmark 1000 (derriedo)
  PostgreSQL question (derriedo)
  Where is Netscape Conference for Linux? (Miernik)
  why dtmf_program does not start? (Miernik)
  at shutdown I get:  try_to_unuse: entry .....  signal=1 (Miernik)
  Sound not working after upgrade. (Eric Hesselberg)
  Re: Apache and scripts (Patrick Zonneveld)
  Re: Public license question (Stephan Schulz)
  Re: KDE, Debian, and religion (jik-)
  Re: sed: splitting word over several lines (Michael Powe)
  Re: KDE, Debian, and religion ("David Z. Maze")
  Re: KDE, Debian, and religion (**Nick Brown)
  Re: how to start programming in Linux (Bloody Viking)
  Re: Help! Zip drive... (Thomas Boggs)
  Re: KDE, Debian, and religion ("David Z. Maze")
  Help with NFS needed (Patrick Zwahlen)
  Re: What happened to http://www.x-plorer.org/? (M Sweger)
  Re: Auto login ? (Dick Repasky)
  Re: 403 Error when executing cgi scripts (Thomas Adamek)
  Re: Slackware on a second HDD ("Wael Sedky")

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From: derriedo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Lexmark 1000
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 14:15:40 +0100

Hi all,

How can i use my printer in linux RH5.2 (2.0.34), when I print the
printer do a lot of strange thing but not the right paper


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From: derriedo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PostgreSQL question
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 14:17:39 +0100

Hi all,

How can i do some web page to use the database which make with
postgresql
If you no E-mail the answer

            Bye Dominique



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From: Miernik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Where is Netscape Conference for Linux?
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 12:20:34 +0000

I've installed Netscape Communicator 4.5, and in the Communicator menu, the
Conference position is dimmed.

How can I run Netscape Conference under Linux, is there one, has someone run
it?

If not, who can reccomend me a good conference program for Linux, is there a
VocalTec version for Linux?

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From: Miernik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: why dtmf_program does not start?
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 12:20:49 +0000

I have vgetty, call my voice modem, type DTMF codes, at theat time, on my
console I get the message: DTMF codes sercivved, starting dtmf_program. But
the program defined in voice.conf
does not start.. What is going on?

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From: Miernik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: at shutdown I get:  try_to_unuse: entry .....  signal=1
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 12:21:01 +0000

And in about thirty copies...
everything works, but what is that?

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Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 06:24:08 +0000
From: Eric Hesselberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Sound not working after upgrade.

I updated my kernel to 2.2.1 and now my sound has stopped working. I get
a IRQ conflict at startup. What file needs to be changed to fix the IRQ
problem? Thanks


Eric Hesselberg

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Patrick Zonneveld)
Subject: Re: Apache and scripts
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 20:33:41 GMT

On Sun, 14 Mar 1999 15:35:16 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Juergen Heinzl) wrote:

>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Patrick Zonneveld wrote:
>>Hi...
>>
>>How can i run (perl) scripts in apache from another then the default
>>cgi-bin directorie. I've installed smb2www, but when ik run the script
>>from my browser i receive: You don't have permission to access
>>/samba/smb2www.pl on this server.
>>
>>I've included the follwing in my httpd.conf:
>>ScriptAlias /samba/ "/usr/local/smb2www/cgi-bin/'
>
>ScriptAlias /samba/    /usr/local/smb2www/cgi-bin/ 
>##
># this one is important
>##
>AddHandler  cgi-script .pl

I've tried that one, but that doen't work either.

Gr, patrick.


>
>Cheers,
>Juergen


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stephan Schulz)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Public license question
Date: 15 Mar 1999 12:40:02 GMT

In article <7c8v5q$lkg$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Bill Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In <7c8c8i$5hl$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stephan Schulz) writes:
>>I argue that it makes sense (Note: I do not argue legal reality here -
>>as far as I know there are no precedence cases yet) that if the only
>>purpose of A is to be combined with B into a running program, then it
>>does not matter if the user or the programmer combines A and B -
>>distributing A+B is covered by copyright, and since B (the key or
>>library) is already out there, distributing A alone is equivalent to
>>distributing A+B.
>
>Again NO. Copyright covers ONLY the copying of works. It does not cover
>the use of the work. Thus is the programmer does not copy A he cannot
>violate copyright on A. If the user copies A withing the terms of the
>license he has to copying A, then the user can copy A. Wheteher he then
>combines it with B is a use issue, not a copyright issue. Use is not
>covered under copyright, just copying.                   

I have seen this claim multiple times now, each time with a slightly
squiggly feeling. After thinking about it, I now know why: Copyright,
despite its name, does _not_ cover copying only. It also gives other
rights to the holder, e.g. the right to "maintainance of artistical
integrity" (I hope this is close to the actual English term...).

 The architecture of the Olympic village in Munich (where I happen to
live) is, for example, copyrighted by the archiect, and he has to
agree to any visible changes to the complex (e.g. the roofing of the
stadium). Similarly, you cannot buy a copyrighted painting and use
your spraycan on it. By the same arguing, the writing into margins of
books (another example given in this thread) is questionable, but
would probably be allowed because of the different nature of
literature - changing one copy does not endanger the artistical
integrity of the whole work. Selling paste-on kits, might, though.


Stephan

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Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 04:36:40 -0800
From: jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KDE, Debian, and religion

> Install the packages:
> aarrggghhhh.  Dependency deadlock.  g++ needs libstdc++-dev and
> libstdc++-dev needs g++.

force them then (don't know how you do it in debian).
This is why I hate package managers, and won't use them.  You would save
yourself a lot of trouble if you just tossed debian and got slackware
instead.

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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: sed: splitting word over several lines
Date: 15 Mar 1999 01:13:40 -0800

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>>>>> "Anthony" == Anthony Borla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

    Anthony> System: Red Hat 5.2 Shell: bash 1.14.7(1) Prog: sed 3.02

    Anthony> A file, datefile1, contains a single line, a date in the
    Anthony> form :dd/mm/yyyy.  Using the hexdump utility it is:
    Anthony> 0000000 1 2 / 1 2 / 1 9 9 9 \n

    Anthony> I am attempting to use a sed command sequence to replace
    Anthony> each '/' character with the newline character so that
    Anthony> each date component is placed on a seperate line.

I don't believe you can do this, even with GNU sed.  The only usage of
`\n' (aka ^M) in a substitution is in the regexp to be matched.  IOW,
you can match a newline and replace it with something else, but you
can't insert one in the way you are attempting.

AFAIK, you can't import a partial line into the pattern space.  There
might be a way to put a part of the line (the matched part) into the
hold space; and then there is a command for putting a newline into the
hold space.  I suppose in theory you could delete the contents of the
hold space & then add the newline and print it.  Incredibly
complicated, it seems to me.

You'd probably be better off using awk.  But if you want to pursue
sed, I'd suggest posting to comp.unix.shell, where Al Aab (moderator
of the sed mailing list) and Ken Pizzini (maintainer of GNU sed) hang
out.

mp

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From: "David Z. Maze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KDE, Debian, and religion
Date: 15 Mar 1999 08:26:00 -0500

jik-  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Install the packages:
>> aarrggghhhh.  Dependency deadlock.  g++ needs libstdc++-dev and
>> libstdc++-dev needs g++.
jik-> 
jik-> force them then (don't know how you do it in debian).  This is
jik-> why I hate package managers, and won't use them.  You would save
jik-> yourself a lot of trouble if you just tossed debian and got
jik-> slackware instead.

I've *never* had to use a -force-* option in Debian.  You shouldn't,
either.  In my experience, the Debian package manager has just worked
well and in general done the right thing.

The simple fact is that Slackware is a lot of trouble to keep up to
date.  Debian is almost no effort to keep up to date (apt-get update;
apt-get upgrade is your friend).

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From: **Nick Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KDE, Debian, and religion
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 14:03:45 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hmmmm.  I was starting to think in that direction... but up to now the
package stuff has been rather nifty for this Linux newbie.

jik- wrote:
> This is why I hate package managers, and won't use them.  You would save
> yourself a lot of trouble if you just tossed debian and got slackware
> instead.

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From: Bloody Viking <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: how to start programming in Linux
Date: 15 Mar 1999 13:14:47 GMT

In comp.os.linux.advocacy Jerry Lynn Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

: You haven't taken any psychology courses in college yet, have you!
: :-)

No, but I pretty much reverse-engineered psychology, and learned acting in
the process. Since I've always had people skills problems, I had no choice
but to reverse-engineer psychology as a survival skill. I was misdiagnosed
as a kid with ADD. 

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From: Thomas Boggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help! Zip drive...
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 08:12:26 -0500

Andrew Shiue wrote:

> I have a parallel port Zip drive. I plan to install it in my Red Hat Linux,
> but I only can find HOWTO for scsi Zip drive. Can anybody tell me where can
> I find the HOWTO for parallel port Zip drive? Or just tell me how to install
> it!
>
> Thanks a lot!
>
> --Andy

There is a Zip drive mini HOWTO.  If you're using Redhat, it's probably

/usr/doc/HOWTO/mini/ZIP-Drive.

-thomas


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From: "David Z. Maze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KDE, Debian, and religion
Date: 15 Mar 1999 08:34:49 -0500

Nick Brown <Nick> writes:
Nick> From: **Nick Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Nick> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nick> Nick Brown, Strasbourg, France (Nick(dot)Brown(at)coe(dot)fr)

This is *far* more annoying than is justified.  Can you please put a
real, mailable address that has some hope of (a) reaching you and (b)
not alerting me to the Bill Secret Police, who will discover that I
haven't run any M$ software on donut for, um, a while now (I confess!
I ran DOSEMU to get Master of Orion!) and probably execute me and
steal and reformat poor donut to boot?  Thanks...

Nick> My problem is simple: I want to install KDE 1.1 on top of Debian
Nick> 2.1.  Now, the Debian folks have some semi-religious problems
Nick> with KDE.  KDE is deemed "sufficiently free" in itself, but it
Nick> depends on Free QT, and QT is "not quite sufficiently free",
Nick> something to do with "you can distribute it but not modify it".

The specific problem is that KDE is distributed under the terms of the 
GPL, which requires that you include *complete* source code when you
distribute something.  KDE won't build without Qt.  Qt can't be freely 
distributed.  This is a problem.

There's a worse problem that I can't recall right off hand (even with
a quick persual of the GPL) which basically means that KDE can't be
distributed by anybody but the KDE people at all without violating the 
GPL.  See the Debian mailing list archives at http://www.debian.org/
for more information.

Nick> So... I thought, I'd build my own QT 1.42 .deb package and become a
Nick> Debian hero.  I got the QT source package from Troll... downloads
Nick> beautifully.  Start to make it... needs g++.  No problem.  Off to the
Nick> Debian site... got g++, libstdc++, libstdc++-dev.  Install the packages:
Nick> aarrggghhhh.  Dependency deadlock.  g++ needs libstdc++-dev and
Nick> libstdc++-dev needs g++.
Nick> 
Nick> So, I'm stuck.  If anyone knows:
Nick> - how to get g++ and libstdc++-dev to install on Debian

Install using dselect or APT is the easy way.  The hard way, if you've 
got g++_....deb and libstdc++-dev_....deb, is to do

        dpkg -i g++_....deb libstdc++-dev_....deb

Or, if you've downloaded a bunch of stuff into a sandbox directory,

        dpkg -i *.deb

Nick> or better still
Nick> - how to install libqt 1.42 on Debian

qt1g_1.42-2 is in the current unstable distribution ("potato").

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From: Patrick Zwahlen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Help with NFS needed
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 13:22:49 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi there...

I'm currently working on a very simplified NFS server in Java, which
will not really be an common NFS server, but which will use the NFS
protocol to share a web tree (I know, it's not really clear ;-)

I would really need some help and some explanations on the way the linux
NFS server is handling the file handles and the cookies on directory
listings. So could you point me to a maybe more specific mailing list,
or directly to somebody who may help me (already tried Olaf, but still
no answer.......)

Many thanks in advance, and best regards...          - Patrick -
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M Sweger)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: What happened to http://www.x-plorer.org/?
Date: 15 Mar 1999 12:42:41 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Jesus M. Salvo Jr. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

: The only thing that I now is:

: www.plutonium.net = 208.244.78.9
: www.x-plorer.org=208.244.78.174

: John Salvo

: "Jesus M. Salvo Jr." wrote:

: > http://www.x-plorer.org/ shows a page called Plutonium Inc.
: >
: > Is it just me? This happened to me before with blackdown.org, showing a
: > different site.
: >
: > John Salvo

Yeah! This is happening to me also. The explorer information disappeared
about a three weeks ago. I emailed the site admin and got no response.
Considering how expensive it is to have net info there, I don't blame
the person for moving - I would too!

        Mike,
        [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dick Repasky)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Auto login ?
Date: 15 Mar 1999 13:36:17 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I recommend /etc/rc.d/rc.local for starting home-brewed processes. 
For automatically loging in someone, you can accomplish one per boot
by running rungetty from inittab.  Rungetty is a package.  You should
be able to find it via all the usual web-surfing routes.


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From: Thomas Adamek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: 403 Error when executing cgi scripts
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 14:43:23 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <7ci66q$ur$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,  wrote:
> I'm still getting the 403 error... can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
>

Hi Dave!

Maybe the cgi-bin directory for itself has bad permissions to access it via 
the web server. Take care to make it "executable" (which means in case of 
directories to enable it for search access).

Gru�
        Thomas
        http://www.webtrio.de
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From: "Wael Sedky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: Slackware on a second HDD
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 13:58:30 GMT



> I can't find my hard drive when I run "fdisk"
>
> I have win98 on a 2GB partition and 340MB partition on the first drive.
> The second drive is currently fat formatted (to be deleted) 1GB.
>
> when i run the boot and root disks. I noticed
>
> hda:  hda1  hda2  <hda5>
> hdc: [PTBL][621/64/63] hdc1

Hi Guys,
I think I should have used fdisk /dev/hdc instead of  fdisk /dev/hdc1 (or
the otherway around).

I haven't had to install the OS yet because I have to finish downloading the
rest of the disks first, but fdisk could see my drive now.

Thanks for your hints.



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