Linux-Misc Digest #465, Volume #27 Wed, 28 Mar 01 02:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: Lilo question... (John in SD)
PPP errors with Kernel 2.4.2 (Mikev)
ftp permissions ("Paul")
Re: Controlling console (mingetty) blanking? (3FE)
Problems with debian & kernel ("Corey Quilliam")
Re: The death of MS Office? (Carl Fink)
Re: linux install restart ("Corey Quilliam")
Re: 'make config' utility ("Corey Quilliam")
Re: how do I zip it ("Corey Quilliam")
Re: PPP errors with Kernel 2.4.2 (Robert Lynch)
Re: On-demand dialing (Chris Coyle)
If you install rpm-4.0.2 on RedHat 6.2 ... (Chris Coyle)
Re: manually creating a user when using /etc/shadow ("Trebor")
Re: xinetd (telnet) problems with RHL7 ("Don Evans \(TNE\)")
Re: Cracked Server (Glitch)
Re: Windows ME and Windows 98 and Linux comp. ("Jeremy Paiz")
Re: Audio CD recording problems (Glitch)
Re: OMS requires glib but doesnt find it (Glitch)
Re: lpr not accepting new jobs. (Villy Kruse)
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From: John in SD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lilo question...
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 04:11:38 GMT
On Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:15:13 +0200, "Ren� Scheibe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>I'm testing new kernels on a machine on which I'm just
>logged in over ssh. So no monitor and keyboard connected.
>My question is if I can set up lilo so that when the testing kernel
>fails and I reset the PC by turning it off and back on
>a working kernel is used again.
Better than the '-R' switch, LILO has a "fallback" option: it lets you
specify an alternate boot command line, in case the original boot fails. This
works in conjunction with "lilo -R" to clear out the fallback boot command,
after a successful boot.
The LILO source package has a README, with very extensive documentation of
this option.
--John
LILO version 21.7 (24-Feb-2001) source at
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/system/boot/lilo
patches to -2 at ftp://brun.dyndns.org/pub/linux/lilo
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From: Mikev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PPP errors with Kernel 2.4.2
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 04:22:33 GMT
I get my pppoe working with kernel 2.2.16 however when I compiled a new
kernel (2.4.2) and tried i got the following error ioctl(PPPIOCGFLAGS):
Invalid arguement
any help would be apprecitated.
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From: "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ftp permissions
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 04:36:50 GMT
I want to setup a ftp server and am confused about the correct permissions.
I want to allow anonymous access to the pub directory. I want anyone to be
able to read or download any file or directory within pub. I also want one
directory that people could upload to. What should the permission be. Thanks
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (3FE)
Subject: Re: Controlling console (mingetty) blanking?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 04:41:51 GMT
On 09 Mar 2001 17:51:37 GMT, LFessen106 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> insisted:
> >
> >I would like to know how to inhibit "screen saver" type blanking of
> >the linux console (graphic or character mode - seems to happen in all
> >configurations.) Not sure where to look, but I'd like to simply
> >disable this feature so the console stays on/displaying continuously.
>
> setterm -blank 0
xset s off
--
Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
TopQuark Software & Serv. Contract programmer, server bum.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Give up Spammers; I use procmail.
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From: "Corey Quilliam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problems with debian & kernel
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 04:56:57 GMT
Okay i'm fairly new to debian, started usign it a few weeks ago, and i did
that simple install (hoping everything i wanted, i can apt-get later).
install goes fine, except the kernel is not quite configured so i can use my
Mitsumi CDRW. So, i decided since debian comes pre-installed with 2.2.15,
it's a good idea to upgrade the kernel (i heard .15 had a few security
issues in it). So i started with 2.2.18, a fairly reliable release, and i
compile it, i believe i know enough about linux and enough about my system
that i would select the right things in menuconfig. After finishing
everyting up, editing lilo, i reboot, now, every time i've done this, first
reboot went fine, but after a while, say....a half hour, while compiling a
program, or doing anything, i get a disk i/o error saying that the
filesystem was read-only (note: this error never occured before when writing
to the system). So after exhausting all of my knowledge, i decided to
reboot and let it all remount properly, but upon reboot, i get a kernel
panic: unable to mount root fs on 03:04. This has happened many times,
sometimes it doesn't happen with the read-only filesystem error, sometimes
when i just reboot (don't ask why, just various reasons) it'll get a kernel
panic. i tried rebooting with my bootdisk made prior to the kernel
compiling (so i can get back into 2.2.15) but i still get kernel panic.
This is driving me nuts, no matter what i do, i can't compile the kernel.
i've tried 2.4.2 as well as just recompiling 2.2.15, and i always end up in
a kernel panic. Can anyone give me some suggetsions, or any idea what might
be happening, what i'm missing in the kernel or anything? Thanks a lot for
any help at all.
Corey
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Fink)
Subject: Re: The death of MS Office?
Date: 28 Mar 2001 04:25:01 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:19:35 GMT Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>It still insists on presenting a "desktop" -- it's just not
>taking up the whole screen. I don't want a "desktop", I just
>want a window with a spreadsheet (or memo) in it.
Not yet, but supposedly OpenOffice will have this capability.
>And I want to be able to open documents from the command line by
>typing:
>
> $ some-command filename
>
>I couldn't figure out how to get SO to do that.
On my system, I have to type
soffice filename
which doesn't strike me as too complex.
--
Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I-Con's Science and Technology Programming
<http://www.iconsf.org/>
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From: "Corey Quilliam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux install restart
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 05:04:34 GMT
This may sound really really stupid, but i'm guessing that corel installed a
boot manager such as lilo to let you select which OS to boot to, however,
did you remove the corel cd on reboot? Cause if you're cdrom is bootable,
it might just be booting from the cd into the installation program again,
and starting from the begining.
If this is not the case, then don't mind me, sometimes i feel that the most
simple solution is sometimes the right one :)
Corey
"Markku Kolkka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> ADI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I just dowloaded Corel Linux. I curently run on my computer a dual boot
> > Win98 and Win2000. I have two hard drives. One is partitioned in C, E,
F
> > (Win98)and second is D (Win2000). I deleted everything from F and
reserved
> > it for Corel Linux.
>
> Did you actually delete the partition (with fdisk), not just its
> contents? You need free, unpartitioned disk space for the installation.
>
> > I did reserved an empty partition (6GB) on the hard drive which is
dedicated
> > to Linux
>
> An empty Windows partition is useless for normal Linux installation.
> You must delete the partition, so that the installation program can
> create the Linux partitions in the free space.
>
> --
> Markku Kolkka
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Corey Quilliam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 'make config' utility
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 05:04:35 GMT
"AJL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > make menuconfig or make xconfig
> Yea!!! that's the one =)
>
> Thanks,
> Andy
>
Just a word of advice, you can always open up your Makefile and check to see
what parameters it can take, you'd be surprised how many there actually are
:)
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From: "Corey Quilliam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how do I zip it
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 05:04:36 GMT
check out gzip or bzip2
"Michelle Reddan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:53Ev6.3406$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I want to compress a folder.
> I created a tar file of it, but how do I reduce the size, is there a way
to
> zip in linux
> can anyone help?
>
>
>
>
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From: Robert Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PPP errors with Kernel 2.4.2
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 21:04:53 -0800
Mikev wrote:
>
> I get my pppoe working with kernel 2.2.16 however when I compiled a new
> kernel (2.4.2) and tried i got the following error ioctl(PPPIOCGFLAGS):
> Invalid arguement
>
> any help would be apprecitated.
Means you need to upgrade (at least) ppp. Read the "Changes"
file in the Linux kernel source.
Bob L.
--
Robert Lynch Berkeley CA USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Chris Coyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: On-demand dialing
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 00:14:59 -0500
Frank Hahn wrote:
>
> On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:12:11 -0500, Chris Coyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > "Dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:99pu0u$nf6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > I have set up IP masquerade on Red Hat Linux 7.
> > >
> > > From the server and other Windows workstations I can browse the web. No
> > > problem.
> > >
> > > However I need to manually establish the ppp dial-up connection from the
> > > server each time a Windows machine wants to connect.
> > >
> > > I want the workstations to be able to launch that ppp connection
> > > automatically from their browser(& mail client).
> >
> > I did this on RH6.2 by downloading pppsetup from slak,
> > but then I discovered you can set it up through some
> > optional part of linuxconf. I don't know if its the
> > same on RH7 but I would advise you to browse through
> > EVERY branch of linuxconf to see if its there.
> >
> There may be other ways around your problem. The diald package at
> one time included a script that could be used to control diald. I
> use to export this so that it displayed on the Windows machine. You
> could use this to stop and start diald instead of waiting for it
> to time out.
>
> Another option was a program called dialmon. It was a Windows client
> that could also control diald. Take a look at issue 33 of the Linux
> Gazette. The address is http://www.linuxgazette.com.
>
> The address for dialmon is: http://www.quaking.demon.co.uk/dialmon.html
>
> --
> Frank Hahn
>
> There is no such thing as fortune. Try again.
Frank,
I think maybe diald is obsolete. Current versions of pppd
(at least the one that comes in RH6.2, and probably also RH7)
can do demand-dialing and idle-timeout disconnect all by themselves.
Well, perhaps I should say with the help of a dialer program like
chat or wvdial. wvdial seems to be better and smarter than chat
so maybe chat is now obsolete also.
Chris.
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From: Chris Coyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: If you install rpm-4.0.2 on RedHat 6.2 ...
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 00:33:09 -0500
If you plan to install rpm-4.0.2 on RedHat 6.2 you may want to note this
little glitch.
Following the RHSA-2001-016, I installed the new rpm-4.0.2 rpm's.
Then I noticed that gnorpm (the gui rpm interface) didn't work anymore.
The message it gave me was:
gnorpm: error in loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/librpm.so.0:
undefined symbol: fdio
Then I noticed in the fine print
(http://www.redhat.com/support/errata/RHSA-2001-016.html)
a note to the effect that applications which are statically linked
against rpm libraries
should be upgraded or recompiled to use rpm-4.0.2 libraries.
To fix this I had to install the gnorpm source rpm (I found
gnorpm-0.95.1-5.6x.src.rpm)
apply a couple of patches (included), fix a line of source code
(strange) and then recompile.
After that it works fine.
Chris.
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From: "Trebor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: manually creating a user when using /etc/shadow
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 05:41:15 GMT
"Juergen Heinzl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <3ac10cb9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Trebor wrote:
> >I generally create users manually (vi /etc/passwd, mkdir /usr/home/xxx,
> >etc.). My last step is usually to manually create the user's password by
> >running "passwd username" as root.
> [-]
> I'm not even going to ask why you're not using useradd ;)
I have no excuse other than lack of inertia to learn new things (ie,
laziness!) I learned to create users about 12 years ago - before useradd
existed (afaik), and since that time have always prefered to edit
/etc/passwd directly, never bothered to learn any other way.
I'll join the 21st century and start using useradd now - sounds like it'll
make life easier for me!
Thanks for the pointers.
-Bob
Andover, MA
> >However, I've always had mixed results doing so on a system that uses
> >/etc/shadow - often I am unable to login because the password fails. Here
> >are some questions I have concering the topic:
> [-]
> You may have gotten the password aging a./o. acount expiration
> information wrong.
>
> >1. Can anyone recommend the additional steps I should take to manually
> >create a user on a system with /etc/shadow?
> [-]
> Use useradd.
>
> >2. In /etc/passwd, is it imperitive to use "x" in the password field if
> >/etc/shadow is in use?
> [-]
> ftp:!:600:65534::...:...
> ^
> |
> special meaning as well as * but for a usable account -- x.
>
> >3. At which point can I run "passwd username" as root to set the password
> >manually? (eg, before creating the shadow entry? after?)
> [-]
> After, but see man passwd for its various options
>
> >4. Do I need to run pwconv? If so, when?
> [-]
> No.
>
> >I've man'd passwd, shadow and pwconv .. but still can't reliably create a
> >user with a desired password. My system is standalone (ie, no NIS)
> [-]
> Try a google search on "shadow and passwords" a./o. use the source as
> there are some additional features, depending on which version you've got.
>
> Ta',
> Juergen
>
> --
> \ Real name : Juergen Heinzl \ no flames /
> \ EMail Private : [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ send money instead /
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Reply-To: "Don Evans \(TNE\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Don Evans \(TNE\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: xinetd (telnet) problems with RHL7
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 05:43:02 GMT
Clint . . .
I go a little farther than Roger. With each new release, I do the opposite
of the typical recommendation. I install absolutely every package on the
CDROM, then start about disabling things I don't need. This has nearly
always worked wonderfully for me. I still haven't got all the packages and
dependencies down pat, but this nearly always gets everything working. Then
I go about killing off packages. :) I seemed to learn more this way.
Depending on what you intend to expose the machine to, immediately or
eventually, this can be just perfect. There are dozens of sites that
discuss security issues with various packages in Linux versions, used in
various applications. You can read for months on this issue alone. I keep
reloading the packages, kill them , then repair or reload them again. This
how I figured out what had to be there and I liked doing it.
If this is going to be a production machine, and has to go on line right
away, still do this at least once to be sure all the things you need are
there and will work on that machine. Linux is far from an exact science on
the multitude of different machines out there.
-- /etc/xinetd.conf does not have to be modified in any way to have TELNET
sessions work.
-- make sure the Telnet damon is running (ps -ax | grep telnet) you should
get something that looks like the following:
xxxxx (process number) S 0:00 in.telnetd: <name>
-- I usually always again, start with a "custom install" and install
everything the first time you install it
I've had some horrible experiences with RED HAT 7.0, right up until I
installed it for the 40th time! <grin> I find RED 7.0 very stable as a
server, but I don't ever use it for much else. I have only one relatively
minor issue that I haven't overcome yet that deals with backing up 100+mb
files to Linux. They do fine to a WIN2000 server, but fail approx. 30
minutes into copying these large files to a Linux server. I'll figure it
out, but that is about the only issue I've run into.
The MAN and INFO pages pretty much sucked for me when I started. I found
much easier reading at RED Hat's site and the numerous "newsier" type Linux
sites. (I still refer to these sites)
Once you basically understand a specific command, the MAN and INFO pages are
fine.
You obviously understand more than any beginner and shouldn't have a really
hard time getting this running. It's my opinion though, just do a custom
install and install everything once and make sure it all works with your
hardware.
Don . . . Nashville, TN
"Clint Laskowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:R5Ls6.1028$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi. I'm kinda new to inetd, but have been using variants of *nix for
years.
>
> I installed RH7 from the RHL7 Bible book (workstation install with GNOME).
> Works fine. But, when I try to telnet to the system from another machine
on
> my network, I can't. So, I did a port scan and found smtp, sun-rpc,
spooler
> and motorola cable modem test ports open (25, 111, 515, and 1024). Seems
> kinda strange. No telnet (port 23).
>
> According to my boot dialog, inetd does start. But, there is nothing in my
> /etc/xinetd.d directory other than linuxconf-web, which again seems weird
> (no xinetd.conf files and no xinetd.conf on my system).
>
> This is a completely fresh RHL7 install. I did nothing to it but install
and
> check for telnet services.
>
> What am I doing wrong? Was I suppose to do the server install?
>
> Any help will be appreciated. Since I'm having trouble with my machines,
an
> email to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] would be appreciated.
>
> Sorry if this is the wrong group or a newbie or FAQ question. I searched
for
> an answer but couldn't find any.
>
> -- clint
>
>
>
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Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 01:18:02 -0500
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cracked Server
ImaLuzer wrote:
> I had a server get cracked. I wiped the HD and reinstalled everything. I
> believe that someone used a buffer overrun attack to install a rootkit, but
> I'm not sure. Will disabling anonymous FTP negate a malicious person's
> ability to apply this crack again?
assuming they employed a buffer overrun concerning ftp and assuming that
you apply patches to the FTP server that the cracker used, then yeah
obviously, if u cant tell already your way of thinking is not the best
how do u know it was FTP that caused the buffer overrun? do u know which
ftp server it was? do u know for sure it was a buffer overrun exploit?
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From: "Jeremy Paiz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.windows-me,alt.windows98,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.windows
Subject: Re: Windows ME and Windows 98 and Linux comp.
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 01:16:07 -0500
if i were you, and if you haven't already purchased windows me, i would NOT
install it at all. it would be a waste of 15gb on your system. i currently
have it (along with linux on a dual boot), and it has utterly disappointed
me. it's way too buggy. i don't think microsoft tested/debugged it very
well -- like they do that anyway for any of their other products! i would
just stick with win98 and get the second edition upgrade. besides, as
another person posted in reply, why would you have 2 os's so identical in
the first place? one windows os is bad enough, why make the hard disk
suffer any more than it has to!? ;)
--
____________________________________________________________________________
Jeremy M Paiz
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"AK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:99m07r$leb$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I am thinking of putting Windows ME onto one of my machines
> .. it has 2 Harddisk.. identical in size..
>
> Anyway the HDs has these partitions:
>
> C: Win98
> D: 15GB I plan to put ME on.
> E: Linux
>
> On E: I plan to put Linux.
>
> If I did a setup D: or (whatever the switch is) would my MBR be OK?
> Can all these 3 OSs exist OK.. and would my DOS be preserved?
> I am using loadlin to load linux so it wont touch the MBR.
>
> What would happen if D: was on a removable HD... would the system
> he able to boot OK?
>
>
> --
> Kila_m
> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> This is not a pipe "|" http://www.dvdwriters.co.uk
>
>
>
>
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Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 01:39:44 -0500
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Audio CD recording problems
Bart Friederichs wrote:
> Federico Bravo wrote:
>
>> You could make a multi-session CD-R but I wouldn't see the
>> point of it.
>
>
> Yeah, well. When you want to add some extra later, but I omitted the
> -multi flag to cdrecord when I recorded track1, so...
>
>
>> cdrecord -v speed=4 dev=0,0,0 -audio "track*.wav"
>
> Hmm, well yes, only the "track*.wav" didn't work, but an enumeration of
> the .wav files did. Its burning now ;))
>
> Too bad I have a single-session CD with just one track of 4 mins on it
> now. But hey, there are worse things in the world (like Windows).
>
thats why you test using cdrw, not cdr
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Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 01:48:25 -0500
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OMS requires glib but doesnt find it
G Tselentis wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
>> Markku Kolkka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> G Tselentis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>>
>>>> configure: error: Cannot find GLIB: Is glib-config in path?
>>>>
>>>> I've got a full Mandrake 7.2 installation (latest one, with latest
>>>> kernel and x windows). I tried to download the GLIB mentioned ... I
>>>> did, installed it and everything and still gave me that error. HOWEVER
>>>> ... when I'm my normal username and i type glib-config ... it runs it!
>>>> But when im root, it doesnt
>>>
>>> It's rather obvious that glib-config isn't in root's path (it's
>>> different from regular users'). Find where it's located and change
>>> root's path accordingly (edit /root/.bash_profile).
>>
>> A better advice would be to avoid doing anything more than is strictly
>> necessary as root. For example, compiling stuff can be safely done by
>> a normal user! Only "make install" needs to be run as root (and it is
>> even possible to make this step unnecessary if you give the right
>> permissions on /usr/local).
>>
>
>
> first of all, thanx for the replies :) secondly, I had the idea of doing
> what u said, and so I did ... but now I get a different error message, on
> the same subject! here it is ...
>
> checking for glib-config... /usr/local/bin/glib-config
> checking for GLIB - version >= 1.2.5...
> *** 'glib-config --version' returned 1.2.9, but GLIB (1.2.8)
> *** was found! If glib-config was correct, then it is best
> *** to remove the old version of GLIB. You may also be able to fix the error
> *** by modifying your LD_LIBRARY_PATH enviroment variable, or by editing
> *** /etc/ld.so.conf. Make sure you have run ldconfig if that is
> *** required on your system.
> *** If glib-config was wrong, set the environment variable GLIB_CONFIG
> *** to point to the correct copy of glib-config, and remove the file
> config.cache
> *** before re-running configure
I just installed glib 1.2.8 and gtk 1.2.8 and fixed the above errors
(when ./configuring Pan) with very little trouble.
the glib-config that ./configure is finding doesn't know how to find its
associated libraries that you installed.
if you run /sbin/ldconfig the libs that were just installed should be
loaded into memory (i believe that's how it works). I think that is
what i did to fix the above error. It seemed to work for both glib and gtk.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Subject: Re: lpr not accepting new jobs.
Date: 28 Mar 2001 06:47:35 GMT
On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 13:42:02 -0500, Steve Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm goin' nuts here, does anyone have any idea why this may have
>happend? I'ts been running fine for about 6 months now and I've not made
>any changes to the system for a month. It just stopped working about 4
>days ago.
>
Are you using a network printer box with the lpd protocol? This setup
often runs into trouble because the printer box can't handle status
inqueries while it is busy printing, and a lpq command will put your
printer spooler right into that problem.
Villy
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