Linux-Misc Digest #466, Volume #19 Mon, 15 Mar 99 12:13:35 EST
Contents:
About mount ?? ("ASHUTOSH SHARMA(97D07026)")
Re: Help on Upgrading to kernel 2.2.3 (Jeremy)
Re: Help! Zip drive... (bklimas)
Re: AARGH!!!
Unrecognised video card in RH 5.2 ? (Nick)
e2fsck non-contiguos message (Greg Dickson)
Re: comments after #!/bin/sh ? (Kalle Olavi Niemitalo)
New User (Colm Dougan)
Pentium III Boycott and survey info (Intel no one)
Re: If I had the time I know how to make a fortune in unix (Robin Becker)
Help with routing dial-up w/ masq'ing. ("J. S. Jensen")
Re: KDE, Debian, and religion ("D. Vrabel")
Re: Are screen savers necessary? (Markus Wandel)
Re: WebDB on Linux (Nathan Custer)
Re: unresolved __bzero (cannot load shared library) while using insmod (Mike Demeter)
Routing problem with TCI cable internet (Chetan Ahuja)
Re: Encyclopedia Brittanica ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Help on Upgrading to kernel 2.2.3 (Julius Longauer)
Re: .procmail (Collin Park)
Re: binary Emacs 20.x for i386? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: "ASHUTOSH SHARMA(97D07026)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: About mount ??
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 17:35:52 +0530
HI
HOw can i mount a 32 bit WIN95/WINNT type filesystem in linux.
mount -t vfat doesn't work.
- Ashutosh
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From: Jeremy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Help on Upgrading to kernel 2.2.3
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 12:23:48 +0000
Ryan Ho wrote:
> Hi,
> I have compiled the kernel 2.2.3 with support for loadable modules.
> After I have done that, I installed modutil 2.1.121. Problem is, I still
> cannot load my modules at all. I can manually load the module for some
> of my file systems. But my printer refuses to work. It isn't even
> detected when I probe for one using the printer configuration tool
> provided in RedHat 5.2. The README files weren't very useful because
> the configuration files it tells me to alter does not exist. Perhaps
> there is a typo error somewhere. Help appreciated. Thanks in advance.
>
> Ryan
Try running "depmod -a". I had the same problem, that fixed it. - Jeremy
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From: bklimas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help! Zip drive...
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 13:45:59 GMT
Andrew Shiue wrote:
> I have a parallel port Zip drive. I plan to install it in my Red Hat Linux,
> but I only can find HOWTO for scsi Zip drive. Can anybody tell me where can
> I find the HOWTO for parallel port Zip drive? Or just tell me how to install
> it!
>
> Thanks a lot!
>
> --Andy
You may want to try my homepage:
http://www.magma.ca/~bklimas/FAQ.htm#Get_Zip_Drive_Recongized
Hope this helps. Best regards,
Stan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: AARGH!!!
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 10:23:22 GMT
In article <7chi7v$83n$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Stuart Eichert wrote:
>Karl Bengtsson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>: God damn it!
>: I just (by mistake) deleted ALL of my schoolwork for the last FIVE YEARS!!!
>: And together with it, A LOT of other important information... I will NEVER
>: EVER give Linux access to my windows drives again!
>
> -Read below.
>
>: This is the story:
>: Linux has somehow been messed up bad. I get the (admittedly stupid) idea
>: that "hey, just like windows, format and reinstall!"
>: So what do I do? I try to remove as much info as possible from the
>: filesystem, and by mistake end up deleting some things from /mnt/ as well!
>: So now all my work is lost...
>
>: I NEED to get a backup device,
>
>
> -or you could use a wrapper version of rm that saves deleted files
>in another place until you do a full delete. This works much better than
>DOs/WIN "undelete".
>
>: Regards,
>
>: One Sad Loser
>: a.k.a. Karl
>
>--
>***********************************************************************
>* Stuart Eichert BSE Comp. Sci. Eng. '99 *
>* [EMAIL PROTECTED] BSEcon Wharton School '99 *
>* www.stwing.upenn.edu/~seichert/ MSE Tcom. & Networking '99 *
>* University of Pennsylvania *
>* Secretary of Dining Philosophers *
>* University Scholar *
>***********************************************************************
blah
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nick)
Subject: Unrecognised video card in RH 5.2 ?
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 09:21:36 GMT
Hi
I am trying to install a *new* video PCI card under Red Hat 5.2
but I am getting these messages:
(--) S3: PCI: unknown (please report), ID 0x8904 rev 1, Linear FB @
0xd0000000
(--) S3: Unknown S3 chipset: chip_id = 0x8904 rev. 1
The card was produced by an unnamed Far East manufacturer with no
support whatsoever. I can awkwardly see the screen with vga but no
svga...
Any indeas of how to make Linux recognize my card, please ?!
Thanks in advance
Nick
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From: Greg Dickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: e2fsck non-contiguos message
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 22:35:47 +0800
Hi All
After several system lockups and crashes (tracked to my ethernet card)
When I run e2fsck I get various 2.4% non-contiguos messages back
One old partition is up to 8.1%
Are these a problem and if so how do I repair the system
Thanks
Greg Dickson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Kalle Olavi Niemitalo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: comments after #!/bin/sh ?
Date: 15 Mar 1999 11:03:12 +0200
Mike Coffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> #!/bin/sh -- # this is really -*- perl -*-
If that is for Emacs, you could instead add this at the end of the
file:
# Local variables:
# mode: perl
# End:
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From: Colm Dougan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: New User
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 14:25:34 +0000
Hi,
I have been reading a lot of the FAQ's etc. about Linux and have a few
questions :
1. What is the best Distribution, I have read that Red Hat has won a few
awards etc. (my main uses of Linux will be programming, networking,
perhaps some X windows stuff)
2. is the X Windows system worth installing, i.e. is it good enough to
justify the amount of Hard Disk space it requires (I am pretty good with
shell environments but prefer Windows type environments for some
things).
3. are there any good programming IDE's for C, C++ or Java
4. as regards installation, I would like to try and have a crack at
downloading it and then installing it, as I think I would learn a lot
from doing it this way. Are there any good websites on this subject or
is it generally a bad idea (I have read a few of the FAQ's that come
with the various distributions but none of them seem to say the things I
want to know, i.e. what files do I need, what steps should I follow
etc.)
I'd really 'preciate any and all help/suggestions
Regards
Colm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Intel no one)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Pentium III Boycott and survey info
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 11:53:38 GMT
Pentium III chip with the individual serial number that can
track your web surfing and buying habits can now have the ID number
turned on and off by software. Following some links I found the
www.fightdivx.com website and noticed that they have a Intel Boycott
page with links, quotes and info on why you should boycott the
invasion of privacy Pentium III chips. Just like everyone suspected,
the ID number can be taken without a customers knowledge. Just like
cellular phone fraud, once someone has your unique ID number, they
could pose as you on the internet. Do not be fooled by reports that
this problem is fixed because Intel disabled this feature by software
on their up coming chips. Information is power. They want to know
your surfing and buying habits. That is what this is all about. Here
is the link to the page with the boycott info and links.
http://www.fightdivx.com/intelboycott.htm
http://www.bigbrotherinside.com/
Also you will find a Boycott Intel screen saver and banner on their
page above. Spread it around.
Take the Pentium III Boycott Survey
http://mail.infotrieve.com/isurvey/index.cfm?vendorid=6045&formid=F0006045
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From: Robin Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.shell
Subject: Re: If I had the time I know how to make a fortune in unix
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 10:30:56 +0000
In article <7ci2bc$7uq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, equality7-2125
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>>The native BRITONS speak GAELIC! (The anglo-saxons are late arrivals :-)
>
>
>Padraig post Padraig post, Donny Murdo!
>
>Postman pat, postman pat, Dangermouse!!!!
>
>Anyway- all the native Americans speak Apache Indian. The pub I go to each
>night is older than the Westernised population of your country "mate".
>
>C
>
>
the native Britons weren't Keltae either they were also late arrivals.
--
Robin Becker
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From: "J. S. Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help with routing dial-up w/ masq'ing.
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 08:33:10 -0700
I have a box that I want to do all routing for an internal network. The
internal network 172.17.?.?/16 is masqueraded through a point-to-point
connection. This works fine as routing is relatively easy.
Now we are adding several dial-in lines to the same box, and those PPP
connections are generally IP numbered in the 192.168.1.?/32 range.
However, those PPP `clients' connecting into the box can only see the IP
addresses local to that box! Though the routing tables that exist seem
to be appropriate, is the masquerading entry:
IP firewall forward rules, default policy: deny
type prot source destination ports
acc/m all 172.17.0.0/16 0.0.0.0/0 n/a
causing all incoming packets destined to the PPP `clients' to masq to
default destination 0.0.0.0 ? The routing table is:
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Iface
xxx.xxx.xxx.11 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH ppp0
192.168.1.2 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH ppp1
172.17.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 U eth0
127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U lo
0.0.0.0 xxx.xxx.xxx.11 0.0.0.0 UG ppp0
Such that when it sees a packet for 192.168.1.2 it /should/ go through
ppp1, vs. the default gateway. But are the masquerading rules applied
first, such that the source is obviously 172.17.0.0 but the destination
matches the 0.0.0.0/0 in the masq'ing entries.
How do I solve this?
--
J. S. Jensen
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.Paramin.COM
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From: "D. Vrabel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KDE, Debian, and religion
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 15:40:44 +0000
On 15 Mar 1999, David Z. Maze wrote:
> jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> Install the packages:
> >> aarrggghhhh. Dependency deadlock. g++ needs libstdc++-dev and
> >> libstdc++-dev needs g++.
> jik->
> jik-> force them then (don't know how you do it in debian). This is
> jik-> why I hate package managers, and won't use them. You would save
> jik-> yourself a lot of trouble if you just tossed debian and got
> jik-> slackware instead.
>
> I've *never* had to use a -force-* option in Debian. You shouldn't,
> either. In my experience, the Debian package manager has just worked
> well and in general done the right thing.
But clearly looking at the above dependances there is a circular
dependancy and hence it will fail. Have you installed these particular
packages (from 2.1)? If so what method did you use and why did it work?
David
--
David Vrabel
Engineering Undergraduate at University of Cambridge, UK.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Markus Wandel)
Subject: Re: Are screen savers necessary?
Date: 15 Mar 1999 15:08:11 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Marc D. Bumble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Are screen savers purely entertainment these days? Im so disheartened
>just thinking about it. Has my lovely screen saver been reduced to
>nothing more than a frivilous computer chachka?
What really gets me is that there are "screen savers" nowadays that do
precisely what screen savers originally aimed to avoid: Display a
stationary pattern on the monitor all day!
Also, on Unix a compute-intensive screen saver can cause problems.
Even running at low priority, it keeps the load average up, and if you
have some kind of demand-sensitive scheduling (a distributed job that
only takes over machines that are idle -- yes, we've done that) it gets
confused.
These phosphors don't burn in quickly. A stationary pattern needs to be on
the screen for a couple of years, probably, before you will see any noticeable
burnin. Also it seems much more prevalent on monochrome tubes -- almost all
old ones seem to have some sort of burnin problems. Old colour CRTs are
generally dimmer than new ones in my experience but don't show pattern burnin.
Note this is _in_my_experience_ and may be all wrong in general.
The case for the blank screen cannot be overstated. A modern computer system's
power consumption will probably drop by over 50% when a power-saving screen
blanker kicks in (it turns off the video sync signals and the monitor depowers
all of its video stuff) and the CPU is kept idle, compared to the machine
being constantly "awake" to display some goofy graphic.
My two cents' worth.
Markus
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From: Nathan Custer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.databases.oracle.server,relcom.comp.dbms.oracle,comp.databases.oracle.misc
Subject: Re: WebDB on Linux
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 09:30:26 -0600
I didn't think WebDB was out for Linux? I was thinking it was only Win NT and
Solaris
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> hi everyone, i'm trying to install WebDB on a Linux (RedHat 5.2 with kernel
> 2.2.2) box with Oracle 8.0.5 on it. Has anyone installed WebDB on Linux? Is
> there a way that I can have a little howto on how to install WebDB on Linux?
> please help! khai
>
> -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
> http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
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From: Mike Demeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,linux.dev.kernel,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: unresolved __bzero (cannot load shared library) while using insmod
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 16:13:46 GMT
Marc Teutelink wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have a problem running insmod or depmod. I keep getting the error:
>
> unresolved symbol (__bzero): cannot load shared library.
>
> People tell me it is a glibc version problem. Is that correct. Did someone
> experience this before. My system is a mandrake 5.3 upgraded to 2.2.1. I
> installed all necessary packages before.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Marc teutelink (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])
Look in your /sbin directory for insmod.static. The regular insmod supplied
by mandrake would not work on my system either...but insmod.static worked
fine. The insmod package must be compiled against 2.x headers for it to
operate correctly...
Mike
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chetan Ahuja)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Routing problem with TCI cable internet
Date: 15 Mar 1999 16:11:57 GMT
---
Hi,
I am on a TCI cable network. At various times of the day, my connection is
so clogged as to make me wish for a good old 14.4 modem. Running traceroute from
inside and from various points outside the network has led to the discoveries that
a) the routing of traffic is ALWAYS asymmetric.. ie. outgoing packets are
ALWAYS using a different route than the incoming packets.
b) The first hop out of my cable modem IS definitely the bottleneck.
And incoming packets always have a much faster path in general than
outgoing packets.
So now my obvious thought is how do I make sure that the outgoing packets take
the same path the inocoming packets are taking. Basically I want to control the
first hop out of the cable modem. I am not clear on my routing/gateway concepts.
So could somebody tell me how to achieve this with a 2.0.37 kernel linux system.
( I am willing to upgrade/downgrade the kernel if needed). Reading the man pages for
route/ifconfig is only confusing me more. Is it under my control at all...???
Thanks
Chetan Ahuja
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Encyclopedia Brittanica
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 15:25:14 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>Has anyone managed to run the EB CD from Linux? I hear that it runs through
>a modified Netscape browser, which leads me to believe that it should be
>feasible to access the info on CD from within Linux.
OK, here we go again.....
All of the following only applies to the old (eg 1997) edition of EB, which
uses Netscape rather than IE (and which doesn't even claim to be multimedia).
The files that come with it somehow constitue a compressed WAIS database.
I have been unable to get them to register with any WAIS server I could find,
but then, I don't have the first cluse about WAIS. So someone might want to
explore that venue.
The usual operation is that EB starts up and registers a documentclass with
the Windows version of Netscape. It is doing so through something like OLE.
That's what all those eb://cgi-bin/g stuff you find in the HTML source is
about. This tells Netscape to hand over control to EB whenever it finds
a URL starting with eb://, and EB then starts the appropriate search engine
(usually g.exe), _after_ filling in the matching .ini file. The search then
returns its (HTML) results in a file which was named in the .ini file.
Now, there is little chance of making this cooperate with Netscape/Linux, as
that seems to be lacking the mechanisms for registering new URL types
(or at least does it in a completely different way).
What I did was to install the whole thing on a Windows98 box, together
with a WEB server which can do CGI scripts (in my case, Xitami). I
then went and wrote a short little CGI "program" that accepts requests
from my linux box, writes a proper .ini file for g.exe, calls that,
grabs the result and rewrites all references to eb://cgi-bin/g to
http://magpie/cgi-bin/myg (where magpie is the name of the Windows
box, and myg is the name of that wrapper program) and feeds it all
back as the answer to the request.
As a frontend on the linux side, I usually use lynx --- after all, the
whole thing _is_ text based (and I don't even have the images installed),
and a little script called "eb" and containing just
lynx http://magpie/cgi-bin/myg?keywords=$1\&DBase=Articles\&hits=10
allows me to do very rapid searches right from the command line. A similar
script, called webster, searches the dictionary.
If anyone is interested, I can send you the code. Be warned that it is in
a "it works for me, if it doesn't for you, that's your problem" state. Be
also warned that, strictly speaking, doing this sort of thing probably violates
your licence even if you are the only user. It definitely is illegal to use
this method to make things available to other people. DO NOT DO THAT!
That said, the EB is a great resource, and with a reasonably fast Windows
machine to run it on, it's really handy for the incurably curious ---
especially when freed from the stupid interface. Quick, what's Michelangelo's
family name?
Bernie
--
============================================================================
"It's a magical world, Hobbes ol' buddy...
...let's go exploring"
Calvin's final words, on December 31st, 1995
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From: Julius Longauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help on Upgrading to kernel 2.2.3
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 17:20:15 +0100
Ryan Ho writes:
>
> Hi,
> I have compiled the kernel 2.2.3 with support for loadable modules.
> After I have done that, I installed modutil 2.1.121. Problem is, I still
> cannot load my modules at all. I can manually load the module for some
> of my file systems. But my printer refuses to work. It isn't even
> detected when I probe for one using the printer configuration tool
> provided in RedHat 5.2. The README files weren't very useful because
> the configuration files it tells me to alter does not exist. Perhaps
> there is a typo error somewhere. Help appreciated. Thanks in advance.
>
Hello Ryan
Where did you install the modutil-binaries (try 'which depmod') und
where
does init expect them ?(change in the directory, where your init-scripts
are stored an run 'find -type f | xargs grep depmod) Do the places
match?
If not move the modutils-binaries where init wants them. In my system
(SuSE 6.0) the init-script 'boot' tries to run '/sbin/depmod -a'.
The binaries however are stored by default in /usr/local/sbin
(when your compile modutils yourself and run ./configure whithout
the appropriate prefix).
Julius
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Collin Park)
Subject: Re: .procmail
Date: 15 Mar 1999 07:57:10 GMT
Titus Gruppen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: I that you get a new shell when using procmail, but don't know what i have
: to initialize (path's , etc.) in the .procmail file, so that i'm possible
: to print my file at a printer.
I had this question myself, so I inserted a small recipe at the top of
.procmailrc :
:0 fbw
* ^Subject: *WhatIsEnv
| (cat > /dev/null; env)
Then, I sent myself a message, as
echo blah blah | mailx -s WhatIsEnv collin
Then I looked at the mail I got. It had my environment (as set by
sendmail and procmail) printed out, so I could see what PATH, LOGNAME,
etc. were.
If you want to know what to set up so it matches your present environment,
you could try typing
env
at the shell prompt, and comparing that output to what appears in your
mailbox when you put the above procmail recipe in, and send yourself
a message as I did above....
Hope this helps
collin
** N.B. This is not a statement of my employer, we are not responsible
for incidental or consequential damages, etc etc etc
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.emacs
Subject: Re: binary Emacs 20.x for i386?
Date: 15 Mar 1999 15:57:04 +0100
Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> what is a DOC file?
It contains documentation for built-in functions and variables (as
accessible via C-h f and C-h v). The file resides in the directory
named by the variable doc-directory, probably
/usr/share/emacs/20.3/etc.
(Err, the file is named `DOC' or possibly `DOC-20.3.1', that's why I
said DOC file.)
kai
--
I like _b_o_t_h kinds of music.
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