Linux-Misc Digest #466, Volume #21 Thu, 19 Aug 99 19:13:13 EDT
Contents:
Re: HPDJ500C/LPRng/ifhp/apsfilter-LPRng
Uninstallation (Devast8 Gs)
Tool to monitor disk activity ? ("Vincent GRENET")
OS women (SkAtAn)
Re: max. array size GNU C compiler... (EKK)
Re: please help! restarting gnome (Patrick Barrett)
Re: max. array size GNU C compiler... (EKK)
Re: Mail proxy / gateway (Raymonds Doetjes)
Re: Savage4 (Pinwu Xu)
Re: Setting Samba with VMware? (Raymonds Doetjes)
Re: max. array size GNU C compiler... (Ben Pfaff)
MntCD-Rom? (Jim)
RE: Looking for a WWIV-like BBS for Linux ("Sam Sim")
Re: problems with BSD-style TTYs ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
thinko [was Re: 3rd hdisk and slow boot] (John Girash)
Apsfilter: Configuration (Richard V. Brown, Sr.)
Oracle 8i for Linux (Hwei Sheng TEOH)
Re: Why did RMS adopt Unix? (and other questions) ("Noah Roberts (jik-)")
Re: Why did RMS adopt Unix? (and other questions) (Craig Brozefsky)
Re: Why did RMS adopt Unix? (and other questions) ("Noah Roberts (jik-)")
Re: Why did RMS adopt Unix? (and other questions) (john s jacobs anderson)
Re: Help with dhcpcd (Raymonds Doetjes)
Re: please help! restarting gnome ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: *nix vs. MS security (Michael David Jones)
Re: "starve the rotten little bastards" ("guoquin")
Re: 5600x compiler/assembler? (Raymonds Doetjes)
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: HPDJ500C/LPRng/ifhp/apsfilter-LPRng
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 20:31:03 GMT
Ehh... I don't have lprsetup. Is it SUSE specific? It doesn't matter
anyways, I just installed magicfilter and got it working in a cinch. :)
Pete
John G. Sandell wrote:
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > I've got a HP DeskJet 500C attached to my parallel port. I've been
able to
> >
> > send files to it via "cat filename > /dev/lp0", so I know I've got
kernel
> >
> > modules, etc. working right. I've installed LPRng, ifhp, and
> >
> > apsfilter-LPRng, but I've been unsucessful getting it to print
postscript
> >
> <snip>
>
> I have an HP 697C and used lprsetup to set it up - works fine. This is
> on Suse 6.1. (And yes, I'm using LPRng.)
>
> John Sandell
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Devast8 Gs)
Subject: Uninstallation
Date: 19 Aug 1999 21:50:25 GMT
i'm a beginner when it comes to linux.. and when i installed it, linux for some
reason ran over my whole second hard drive (which is 20 GB). i was wondering
if there was a way to uninstall linux so i could redo my hard drive and then
try reinstalling linux. i installed red hat linux 5.2. please respond to this
by email as i dont check here to often.. thanx in advance.
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From: "Vincent GRENET" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Tool to monitor disk activity ?
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 21:39:07 GMT
Hi all.
I am looking for a tool to monitor disk activity (how many read, write...).
Such a tool may already exist in my distribution (I got a RH5.2) but I have
been unable to find it.
Thanks
Vincent.
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From: SkAtAn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: OS women
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 23:39:53 +0200
Who describes the linux women :-)?
OS Women
Imagine if women behaved like Windows
By: Ben Hanks
If OS's were women:
UNIX:
She's very objective, logical, and intelligent. She's ugly but she looks
ok with lots of makeup. She's very tidy and a keeps a clean house. She
only speaks ancient Greek and only listens to you if you use perfect
grammar. She's very emotionally stable and refuses to argue. People
consult her on really important things because they know they can depend
on her.
Mac OS:
She's even tempered and only blows up if you do something really stupid
or if there's something seriously wrong with her system. She's beautiful
and improves with age. She's very stylish and sets trends. She never
lies. She is easy to talk to and you can generally get her to do what
you want without much of a fuss. She's a good communicator and likes to
talk to friends. She's flexible and likes change. She's always nice to
people when they come to visit. People love her when they get to know
her and she has devoted friends everywhere. She smiles at you when you
turn her on.
Windows:
She has a nasty temper and often blows up at you for no reason. You have
to fight with her to get her to do anything and she insists that you do
things the hard way.
She's extremely jealous and has been known to slip poison into the
drinks of other women who come to visit. She even fights with her
friends and it can take hours to get them to listen to each other. Even
then, they only recognize each
other when they feel like it. She has many psychological problems which
carried over from her DOS childhood, although she claims to be over it.
Her house is immaculate until you look in the closets and storage spaces
where she hides all
the crap she doesn't want people to see. Her house is full of nifty
appliances and home electronics but you're lucky if you can get anything
to work. Nothing in her house is where you would expect it to be; the
kitchen is on the roof and
the bathroom is through a trap door under a rug. She throws a tantrum
if you rearrange the furniture. If she gets really mad she makes you go
outside, ring the doorbell and wait for her to calm down and let you
back in. She deteriorates with
age and gets even more ornery the older she gets.
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From: EKK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.alpha
Subject: Re: max. array size GNU C compiler...
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 11:39:08 -0700
> "You call this a *C* question? What the hell are you smoking?" --Kaz
when you compile using g77 it actually uses gcc...
AG
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EKK Inc.
2065 West Maple C309 tel. 248-624-9957
Walled Lake MI 48390 fax. 248-624-7158
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From: Patrick Barrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: please help! restarting gnome
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 21:15:16 GMT
you can use switchdesk again, from whatever it's in now. If it gives you some
error for some reason, then you can run an xterm by using "xinit" and then it
should let you run switchdesk again.
Patrick Barrett
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"It's not X Windows dammit, it's X Window!!!" --Patrick Barrett, 1999
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Greetings!
>
> I'm mystified and post my question again. Fooling around in gnome I
> started 'switchdesk' and now startx automatically defaults to some desktop
> other than gnome. How do I make gnome the default for startx?
>
> I promise, I'll never fool around again, honest!
>
> Felmon
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> Felmon John Davis
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Union College / Schenectady, NY
> - insert standard doxastic disclaimers -
> OS/2 - ma kauft koi katz em sack
> -----------------------------------------------------------
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From: EKK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.alpha
Subject: Re: max. array size GNU C compiler...
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 11:19:10 -0700
> And WTF do you have to declare this array statically?
would it make a difference if I didn't declare statically AND
needed that much room?
BTW WTF don't you spell out your cute TLA's?
AG
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From: Raymonds Doetjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mail proxy / gateway
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 00:00:01 +0200
You have to build a kernel with masquerading properties. If you have SuSE
5.3 or higher this is standard and all you have to do is install the
masquerading scripts from CD. But you probably use RedNeck
nd then you have to build your own masquerading kernel (pretty easy) and
install it and make a small start script. There are leads on the Net howto
do this. I can tell you but that costs to much time at this stage.
Raymond
Philip S Tellis wrote:
> My company has a win95 network running on a WinNT server. I told them
> that we could use Linux as a proxy server for internet access, so they
> allowed me to setup one machine to act as a proxy. I managed to set it
> up as a HTTP proxy, but do not know how to set it up to pick all the
> users' mail from the remote mailbox, and distribute it to each user's pc
> when requested. Or to send outgoing messages from user's pc via the
> Linux server.
>
> Do I have to setup proxy server settings on the client pc's? All pc's
> use Netscape.
>
> Please help
>
> Philip
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From: Pinwu Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.dev.newbie,linux.dev.svgalib,linux.dev.x11
Subject: Re: Savage4
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 16:11:47 -0400
The provided configuration file is not complete. You can compare the
generated file and your original file (if you just added the Savage4 card
to replace your old card and have a working XF86Config file), little
change will get you to 1024x768x24.
Also there are HOWTOs on setting up modeline, which should be helpful.
If you really want, I could send you mine XF86Config, I am using it at
1024x768@16bpp.
Phillip wrote:
> I have downloaded the Savage4 pro drivers from Creative, followed the
> instructions to the case sensitive letre and still no joy. A chunky 640x480
> on a 17" monitor is no fun. On the same theme, according to the instructions
> it says in the readme file, and I quote:
>
> a: Before trying to to install the Server, make sure that your VGA device is
> Savage4 and that you have root access privilages.
>
> unquote: For those who are interested, I have tried that on SuSE 5.2, RedHat
> 5.2 with both on kernels 2.2.10. Here is the origianl XF86Config file. If
> anyone out there can tell where in this file do I put that info:
>
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From: Raymonds Doetjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Setting Samba with VMware?
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 00:21:06 +0200
You can read about setting up sa,na on my home site
http://node102bd.a2000.nl/rdoetjes
in the fileserver section. (This is the only section that works).
Raymond
"G�rard Milmeister" wrote:
> Can anyone help me with complete configuration data for
> VMware running NT 4.0 and Samba, so that I can use linux
> filesystem and printers on NT 4.0?
>
> --
> G�rard Milmeister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Tannenrauchstrasse 35
> 8038 Z�rich
> Switzerland
> +41 1 481 52 48
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From: Ben Pfaff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.alpha
Subject: Re: max. array size GNU C compiler...
Date: 19 Aug 1999 16:54:40 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
EKK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
What is the maximum array size, using GNU C compiler?
It looks like g77 complains after about 12000000.
Ask somewhere appropriate, like gnu.gcc.help.
And WTF do you have to declare this array statically?
--
"In My Egotistical Opinion, most people's C programs should be indented six
feet downward and covered with dirt." -- Blair P. Houghton
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From: Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: MntCD-Rom?
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 23:33:47 +0200
I�m pretty lame and nwe with Linux so sorry for the lamer quastion.
Why can only the "root" mnt a CD-Rom or a Floppy? Can I do a user that
almost can do the same as the root but still be safe? Last Q: My Gimp
cant find the fonts that some scripts need, where can i find this fonts
and where to put them so gimp can use them??
Found that i dont miss Windows and that the surfing is faster and i
don�t got any hangs or bugs, and i�m realy Linux happy now.
/Jim Engstrom
P.S Sorry for the bad spelling D.S
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From: "Sam Sim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Looking for a WWIV-like BBS for Linux
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 14:11:09 -0700
Hi,
You may want to look at http://joydesk.com, for a web-based bbs that runs on
Linux and FreeBSD.
Thanks!
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From: K. Eggleston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 1999 11:42 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Looking for a WWIV-like BBS for Linux
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Meow comp.os.linux.questions, meow meow Nicholas Pappas meow meow meow
Meow meow...
> I ran WWIV back during the BBS hay-day, I've still got my source code
> sitting around somewhere...maybe. :)
> The BBS software actually still excists, I think you can find the website
> at www.wwiv.com (if you didn't already know). I do not know if they have
> any plans (or already have) ported it to Linux, but it is worth a look
see.
> Actually, if you find anything out -- let me know, I'd be interested in
> checking out the software too!
Yes, I already looked into it.. There are some pages related to it. One
in partiuclar is
http://ca.us.mirrors.freshmeat.net/appindex/1998/09/28/906964455.html
Unfortunately, the links on this page come back "not found". grr...
I would sure like to get WWIV for Linux. I miss that ol' girl.
>
> Nick
>
> "K. Eggleston" wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am looking for BBS software that is as close to the original WWIV
> > experience as possible for Linux. Open source code would be a nice perk
> > as well, because I love to customize! (Free would be nice, too!)
> >
> > I looked at Falken but am not extremely impressed with its features or
> > the asinine policy of the author that "source code is not available to
> > anyone under any circumstances". Excuse me???? As if someone's going
to
> > rip of his BBS code and go make a million bucks with it.. give me a
> > break.
> >
> > Any tips would be appreciated!
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: problems with BSD-style TTYs
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 21:59:34 GMT
Solved my own problem; it appears that:
1) setsid() does not work if pgrp == pid
2) TIOCSCTTY does not work if you do not first call setsid()
I found that I could make things work with:
setpgrp (getpid(), getppid() )
setsid()
open
(ioctl probably not needed)
I'm not convinced that this is the correct behavior for setsid, however.
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From: John Girash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: thinko [was Re: 3rd hdisk and slow boot]
Date: 19 Aug 1999 17:13:49 -0500
John Girash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: AFAIK, an ATA (e.g. harddisk) drive should never be made master to an ATAPI
: (e.g. CDROM) slave. The fact that the HD is showing up as hdc instead of
: hdd hints that your kernel is confused, perhaps swapping the two will clear
: things up.
of course, I got that all bass-ackwards. It should've been
"an ATA drive should never be made slave to an ATAPI master".
Hopefully in context it was clear what I meant.
jg
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From: Richard V. Brown, Sr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Apsfilter: Configuration
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 14:30:49 GMT
I am a "Linux neubie [?spell]" with a total of two months experience with
Caldera's Open-Linux 2.2 distribution. My printer is a new Lexmark Optra
45 [post script].
Within my Win 98 OS the printer prints perfectly in mono and color. Within
my Linux OS the printer prints perfectly in mono ONLY. I was advised to
download and install the most recent version of apsfilter which I did from
www.freebsd.org/~andreas.
I was able to extract the gnuzipped tar.
I was able to install the filter using # cd apsfilter
# ./SETUP
I have attempted to follow the detailed instructions from Andreas but for
the life of me I do not have the skills to edit the system wide apsfilterrc
file!
I would be very willing to pay someone to write a "fool proof" set of
directions that would enable me to get this printer to print in color
within the Linux OS! It is so frustrating to run that lovely test page
that comes with apsfilter [which include 4 different heads of a tiger] and
have the darn thing come out in mono!
Help and thank you in advance for any help you can provide.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hwei Sheng TEOH)
Subject: Oracle 8i for Linux
Date: 18 Aug 99 14:27:48 GMT
Hi!
Has anybody been successful at installing/running Oracle 8i for Linux under
Debian? I know it's supposed to work on RedHat 6, but I'm running a server
using Debian and I'm having a lot of trouble running Oracle 8i. It *seems* to
install fine, and I can start the DB instances fine, but sqlplus crashes with
this error:
sqlplus: error in loading shared libraries:
/mnt/2/oracle/base/home/lib/libclntsh.so.8.0: undefined symbol: nauzaoss
What am I doing wrong??
I'm using glibc2.1 and kernel 2.2.10, so it should be compatible as far as
I can tell from the Oracle installation guide (it says glibc2.1 and
kernel 2.2.*.).
T
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Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Why did RMS adopt Unix? (and other questions)
From: "Noah Roberts (jik-)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 19 Aug 1999 15:11:42 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Doug DeJulio) writes:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Steven G. Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Doug DeJulio) wrote:
> >>[...] I'd consider using GUILE for this, but:
> >>[...]
> >>* It appears to be under full GPL and owned by a group that doesn't
> >> take Linus's stance on dynamic-loaded modules, so it's not clear to
> >> me that I can link in Oracle support for example. [...]
> >
> >The Guile library is under the GPL, but with a special exception that
> >allows linking to proprietary code. The following is from the Guile
> >source code:
>
> [...]
>
> Wow, that's great news. Why the heck didn't they just use the LGPL?
RMS is anti LGPL.
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From: Craig Brozefsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Why did RMS adopt Unix? (and other questions)
Date: 19 Aug 1999 14:29:35 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Doug DeJulio) writes:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Craig Brozefsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Sorry, you'll have to be lobotomized. Its much more than just Scheme
> >syntax that makes you aware that it's running on Scheme. I think that
> >the whole translator thing is a pipe-dream. And what good is working
> >with Guile if you can't use Scheme hygenic macros and Common Lisp
> >style defmacros? Those features are directly tied to the s-expr
> >syntax, and are incredibly powerful, I can't imagine working without
> >them.
>
> I guess you also feel that all users of Perl, Python, Java, TCL, or
> PHP3 need to be lobotomized...
No, just that that is the only way in which you would be able to use
Guile without fearing the s-expr syntax.
> There are lots of folks who won't use Emacs because they can't
> customize it without using Lisp. I thought "the whole translator
> thing" was there in the first place to avoid exactly this.
The "translator thing" is a pipe-dream, and yes that is ostensibly the
problem it is trying to solve.
--
Craig Brozefsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Free Scheme/Lisp Software http://www.red-bean.com/~craig
I say woe unto those who are wise in their own eyes, and yet
imprudent in 'dem outside -Sizzla
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Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Why did RMS adopt Unix? (and other questions)
From: "Noah Roberts (jik-)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 19 Aug 1999 15:14:16 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steven G. Johnson) writes:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Doug DeJulio) wrote:
> >[...] I'd consider using GUILE for this, but:
> >[...]
> >* It appears to be under full GPL and owned by a group that doesn't
> > take Linus's stance on dynamic-loaded modules, so it's not clear to
> > me that I can link in Oracle support for example. [...]
>
> The Guile library is under the GPL, but with a special exception that
> allows linking to proprietary code. The following is from the Guile
> source code:
>
> * As a special exception, the Free Software Foundation gives permission
> * for additional uses of the text contained in its release of GUILE.
> *
> * The exception is that, if you link the GUILE library with other files
> * to produce an executable, this does not by itself cause the
> * resulting executable to be covered by the GNU General Public License.
> * Your use of that executable is in no way restricted on account of
> * linking the GUILE library code into it.
So what the hell does this mean exactly? What can be proprietery and
what cannot?
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From: john s jacobs anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Why did RMS adopt Unix? (and other questions)
Date: 19 Aug 1999 14:05:51 -0700
Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> In gnu.misc.discuss, Michael Coughlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > But Unix and C were literary masterpieces. They were to computer
> > programming as Shakespeare was to English.
>
> Hm. I really don't agree with this either. Unix and C have been as
> successful as they are precisely because they're *not* literary
> masterpieces; they're flexible, low-level, and easy to port, and they
> expose a lot of the hardware to people who need the operating system not
> to hide the details they need to get work done.
>From jwz.org, I think this does a decent job of explaining why the
first is incorrect, and the second isn't:
<http://www.jwz.org/worse-is-better.html>
A hopefully-pertinent-and-intriguing pullquote to inspire reading the
whole thing:
"The lesson to be learned from this is that it is often
undesirable to go for the right thing first. It is better to
get half of the right thing available so that it spreads like
a virus. Once people are hooked on it, take the time to
improve it to 90% of the right thing."
--
================================================================
John S Jacobs Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.treefort.org/~jacobs/ <-- GeneHack (bioinfo*linux*opinion)
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From: Raymonds Doetjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help with dhcpcd
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 00:18:23 +0200
How about /dev/ppp0 ? does that work perhaps?
Raymond
Jason Bond wrote:
> I'm tring to get dhcpcd installed on my red hat 5.2 machine. I'm trying
> to use it with my ppp dialup modem connection. I call it with:
> ./dhcpcd modem
> (and I've tried it with /dev/modem, /dev/ttyS2, etc.and
> that didn't seem to work either)
> and that doesn't seem to get it to work. The /var/log/dhcpcd.log file
> says:
>
> Aug 14 19:30:43 blah dhcpcd[14822]: dhcpStart: socket: Invalid argument
>
> and I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. I've checked the
> processes and it also doesn't seem to be running. Thanks much in
> advance,
>
> Jason
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: please help! restarting gnome
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 18:18:44 -0400
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 08/19/99
at 09:15 PM, Patrick Barrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>you can use switchdesk again, from whatever it's in now. If it gives you
>some error for some reason, then you can run an xterm by using "xinit"
>and then it should let you run switchdesk again.
>Patrick Barrett
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>"It's not X Windows dammit, it's X Window!!!" --Patrick Barrett, 1999
I found out the first method you mentioned and got gnome back. I really
appreciate your replying with some helpful tips!
F.
===========================================================
Felmon John Davis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Union College / Schenectady, NY
- insert standard doxastic disclaimers -
OS/2 - ma kauft koi katz em sack
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael David Jones)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: *nix vs. MS security
Date: 19 Aug 1999 17:54:47 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David C.) writes:
>Roger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Forgot to mention - there are thousands of NT viruses but, AFAIK, no
>> Unix viruses at all. Unix file permissions make it very difficult for
>> any unauthorised code to be run, unless some careless sysadmin is
>> surfing the Net as root.
>Ummmm.... AFAIK, most of the early virusses (like Morris's Internet
>Worm) were invented on UNIX and attacked UNIX systems. They just used a
>different mechanism from what PC and Mac virusses use.
First half-truth: Morris' worm wasn't a virus. It was a worm.
>And virusses that require user intervention (like happy99 and macro
>virusses) can spread on any OS.
Second half-truth: On Unix, these viruses are limited to damaging a
single user (unless you can con somebody into using them as root).
Viruses hitting users are quite unlikely to be able to damage the
system.
...snip...
>- Any well-managed system will have most of the executable files stored
> with permissions that make them non-writable to normal users.
> Programs that a user compiles for himself might still be attacked, but
> there probably won't be many such files in any individual account.
> (You can set up NT this way, but it's not often done. And some
> popular programs, like Word, really don't like having their install
> directories made read-only.)
Any system that hasn't been badly mangled will have system executables
stored read only to normal users. "Well-managed" is a major
exaggeration. And yes, you *can* set up NT that way, but virtually
*all* software won't run that way. You make it sound like a minor
inconvenience.
Mike Jones | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It's a beautiful day for a night game.
- Announcer Frankie Frisch
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From: "guoquin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: "starve the rotten little bastards"
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 22:40:14 GMT
Hello.
The ways of making money is more than what you have known so far in your
knowledge.
The way of survive of course is different, but still out of your reach.
Nutshell is for perverism and cowardism.
Kieu
Eugene O'Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:96Vu3.4261$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <7otf9j$3hu$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (Richard Kulisz) wrote:
> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, A.T.Z. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>If someone chooses to stop working why should he/she get money.
> >
> >Because they're human beings? Because they deserve dignity? Because
> >they *should* have the choice to stop working instead of being
> >compelled by the threat of starvation to whore themselves?! Ahhh,
> >but none of these things are *you* concern, are they??
>
> Wow! I have seen the light! I used to think I should work for a living,
but
> now I want to let someone else work extra hard so I can spend the rest of
my
> life drinking beer and watching TV. That's the sort of dignified lifestyle
> every human being deserves! Uh, except the poor saps who will have to pay
for
> it. They'll still have to work, I guess.
>
> The problem is, the US government doesn't just shovel out money to anyone
who
> asks for it anymore. I guess I could lobby congress to pass new laws, but
that
> would require effort on MY part, and I'm just too dignified for that. Why
> don't you prove that you are willing to stand up for your ideas, and start
> sending me half of YOUR money? It will be just like paying a new welfare
tax,
> only you will get the extra benifit of knowing exactly which lazy slob you
are
> personally giving a free ride to. Isn't that great? I'll be waiting!
>
> -Eugene
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From: Raymonds Doetjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 5600x compiler/assembler?
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 00:15:25 +0200
There is no complier for that under Linux.
Only a DOS compiler that you could run from DOSEMU on Linux.
Raymond
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I might be getting a sound card that has a Motorola
> 5600x DSP chip on it. Does anyone know if there is a
> compiler/assembler that runs under Linux for that
> chip series?
>
> --
> Fred
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