Linux-Misc Digest #488, Volume #19               Wed, 17 Mar 99 12:13:08 EST

Contents:
  Re: Two single ide cards (Mircea)
  Re: CR/LF Question (Erwin Waterlander)
  Re: Public license question (Jamie Lokier)
  Re: hp Laserjet 3si (Andi Vontobel)
  Similar software to ScreenCam for Linux? ("Peter Placek")
  Re: modules no longer load (Edward Dunagin)
  Re: GS drivers for Epson Stylus 640 - disappointing (Rod Smith)
  Re: Version of gcc? ("Thomas T. Veldhouse")
  How get rid of "hostname:" message from rxvt, xterm? (Charles Packer)
  HP 2000C (Peter Lackner)
  LINUX on an iMac (Don Saklad)
  Re: CPU load scheduling: Newbie question ("Sascha Bohnenkamp")
  Re: version control - complicated diff usage (William Burrow)
  Re: Bash and setuid (Johan Kullstam)
  Re: Public license question (Lynn Winebarger)
  Re: cpu has "F0 0F" bug? (k.-h.herrmann)
  Re: Red Hat 5.2 + MS Proxy ("HECC")
  Re: Opinions Needed for New App Planning (Eddy Ferguson <sucks>"@cs.utexas.edu>)
  Re: Celeron 300 MHz or PII 266 MHz (Michael D. Knight)
  Re: Is Red Hat 5.2 worth fifty notes? (Harry)
  Re: How many $$$ does Linux save? (Harry)
  NetZero and Linux (John Richard Vu)

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From: Mircea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Two single ide cards
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 08:23:16 -0500

Yes, cards with 2 IDE channels work fine, but they use 2 IRQs, typically
14 and 15, one for each port. Most likely, your cards are configured to
use the same IRQ, so if you have jumpers, modify one of them. Also, make
sure they don't use the same I/O address.

MST

Dr Paul Kinsler wrote:
> 
> I have two IDE i/o cards, both with a single IDE interface.
> I've tried using both in the same machine at once, but the
> machine hangs at boot (when the bios prints "WAIT...").  Both
> cards work by themselves.
> 
> Is it actually possible to do this?  Is there some jumper
> setting I might change to get it to work?  I can imagine
> if both cards are trying to use the same irq or i/o addresses
> there'd be problems, but then cards with two IDE interfaces
> work somehow.
> 
> --
> ------------------------------+------------------------------
> Dr. Paul Kinsler
> Institute of Microwaves and Photonics
> University of Leeds            (ph) +44-113-2332089
> Leeds LS2 9JT                  (fax)+44-113-2332032
> United Kingdom                 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> WEB: http://www.ee.leeds.ac.uk/staff/pk/P.Kinsler.html

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From: Erwin Waterlander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CR/LF Question
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 13:03:36 GMT

On Wed, 17 Mar 1999, Stressed wrote:

> If I get a script file from the net using a DOS or Win9x machine, how can I
> get it into Linux so that I can use it. The CR/LF problem produces nothing
> but errors on scripts, and unreadable text sometimes.

Get dos2unix and unix2dos from
http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/utils/text/


Erwin Waterlander



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From: Jamie Lokier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Public license question
Date: 17 Mar 1999 13:34:32 +0000

Lynn Winebarger writes:
>    BTW, there are other rights in the US besides copying, including
> right to display, right to performance, and a couple of others.  But
> they're not nearly so sweeping as the European law, which does protect
> things like "artistic integrity."  There's some notion of "moral rights"
> to the work - god only knows why.

In the UK, computer programmers (specifically) were denied moral rights
last time I read the lawbooks.  Bah!  They were the rights I wanted.

[IANAL though]

-- Jamie

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From: Andi Vontobel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: hp Laserjet 3si
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 14:30:36 +0100

It's a networkprinter, connected over tcp/ip

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From: "Peter Placek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Similar software to ScreenCam for Linux?
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 14:35:05 +0100

I am looking for a software similar to ScreenCam for Linux OS.

Would anybody provide me with some information about similar products?

Thank you,

                Peter Placek
                VariCAD.



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From: Edward Dunagin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: modules no longer load
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 08:43:46 -0500


hello patrick,


On Tue, 16 Mar 1999, Patrick D Phillips wrote:

> 
> I seem to have some how broken my modules. After compiling a new kernel,
> 2.2.2, on my
> new Linux Mandrake 5.3 I have some how lost control of the modules. Not only
> for the
> new kernel but also for the old 2.0.36 kernel. After all is loaded I do an
> lsmod but
> get no modules listed. 

********************snip**********************

check out /etc/conf.modules  ..sometimes it gets removed or changed.
there should ba a ak file in there.

hope this helps.....................ed


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.postscript
Subject: Re: GS drivers for Epson Stylus 640 - disappointing
Date: 17 Mar 1999 13:49:09 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Posted and mailed]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        Hans Koch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> My experience with the Ghostscript drivers (described below)
> for Epson Stylus Color printers is a bit disappointing.
...
> In image areas where one of the main colors (CMYK) is used only
> in moderate amounts (light colors, light grey, or mixtures),
> this color is not printed as a light cloud of dots,
> but as pattern of thin wavy lines - highly visible!

This is a result of the dithering algorithm in use.  With the stcolor
driver, you can change this (I think the argument is -sDITHER= or
something like that).  I don't know if that's also true of the uniprint
driver.

-- 
Rod Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.channel1.com/users/rodsmith
NOTE: Remove the "uce" word from my address to mail me

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From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Version of gcc?
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 07:57:38 -0600

I could be mistaken, but I believe that it simply tells you what version was
used to compile the kernel.  Use dmesg, it is easier.

Tom Veldhouse
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

rick wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>the bootup will also tell you what version is installed. just check the
>/var/log/messages file
>
>Jason White wrote:
>
>> I'm having trouble compiling my kernel for the network card I want to
>> use (cCom 3c905b).  I suspect part of the problem might be the version
>> of the gcc I'm using.  I can't remember what version it is from when I
>> installed it.  How can I find out and how can I  upgrade it if need be?
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jason
>



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charles Packer)
Subject: How get rid of "hostname:" message from rxvt, xterm?
Date: 17 Mar 1999 13:38:55 GMT

Using Red Hat 5.1, I find that in X, whenever I execute
rxvt or xterm, the resulting window is besmirched with
this message:

hostname: Host name lookup failure

So who asked rxvt and xterm to be busybodies, looking around
for host names and such? In an effort to track down the source
of this shenanigans, I shut down the X session and tried to run
rxvt in the naked screen. As I expected, I got a message

rxvt: can't open display :0

But first this message was displayed:

_X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111

I assume that this is the source of the hostname error message.
What is it doing, and why? Where can I get a copy of rxvt that
doesn't do this? Or, alternatively, how can I provide a proxy
of whatever this process is looking for?

Is it possible that I mistakenly opted for local network setup
when I ran Linux setup and therefore a version of rxvt was
chosen off the CD-ROM to do this?



-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.clark.net/pub/whatnews/whatnews.html

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Subject: HP 2000C
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Lackner)
Date: 17 Mar 1999 15:42:31 +0100


We are thinking about buying an HP 2000C color printer. Are the
current deskjet drivers of ghostscript suitable for this printer?
Anyone already using such a printer with Linux?

Any comment/hint is welcome.
Thanks in advance,

-Peter

-- 
+-------------------------------------------------+
|                   Peter Lackner                 |
|    Center of Applied Molecular Engineering      |
|          University of Salzburg, Austria        |
|            [EMAIL PROTECTED]         |
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From: Don Saklad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: LINUX on an iMac
Date: 17 Mar 1999 10:31:30 -0500

Can LINUX be run on an iMac?...

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From: "Sascha Bohnenkamp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CPU load scheduling: Newbie question
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 16:22:59 +0100

> Is it possible to run jobs that take not more than say 50% (or a max
>limit) cpu load even if no other cpu intensive job is running on the
>processor? If so, how do I it? I want to run long jobs on my laptop and
>avoid it getting too hot.


your own programm could to a sleep(1) every second second ... make 50% load
...
via timeout-signaling this should be no problem, e.g. should be initialized
in the main
procedure an than slow down the whole programm ... with other jobs, maybe
with a shell-script, which sleeps 1 seconds, sends a suspend to the job for
one second
and than puts that programm back do work etc.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.emacs.xemacs,ed.linux
Subject: Re: version control - complicated diff usage
Date: 16 Mar 1999 22:37:51 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Thu, 11 Mar 1999 10:24:56 +1000,
Martin Pool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Sascha Spangenberg wrote:
>> I have a file called foo version 1.0
...
>> Now I copy foo v1.0 to - say foo2 v1.0- edit this file and save it at
>> v1.1
>> 
>> At this stage I want to apply the same changes to foo2 v1.1 as I did in
>> foo from v1.1->v1.2
>> Assume that the parts where changes need to be made shall be
>>     * identical in foo v1.1 and foo2 v1.1  BUT
>>     * at different positions withing the files...
>
>You can do this interactively in emacs using the emerge functions:
>
>  C-h C-f emerge-files-with-ancestor RET

How does emacs do this?  How does emacs know that foo2 comes from foo?
This procedure might work with v1.1.1 vs v1.1, but it would be something
interesting if it can figure out where the original file came from and
at what version that happened.  (Could a lot of querying of the RCS
database turn this up?)

Maybe the following might work?

### Getting the diff
co -r1.1 foo; mv foo foo-1.1
co -r1.2 foo
diff -u foo-1.1 foo > foo.diff
rm -f foo-1.1
### Processing the diff
co -l foo2
patch foo2 foo.diff
ci -u foo2

This routine actually failed to correctly apply the update, though
it successfully completed.  I would suggest that the failure was due
to a lack of context (patch will search for blocks meeting some
context and apply the changes as it sees fit, unfortunately, the
section used for context for my test was likely too small.)

This problem may be harder than it first seems.  


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Subject: Re: Bash and setuid
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 16 Mar 1999 18:02:03 -0500

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (joseph_a_philbrook__iii) writes:

> On 14 Mar 1999  Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> 
>  >> you can't setuid root a bash script.  if you must, make 
>  >> a setuid C wrapper program which calls the script.
> 
> 
> Please pardon my intrusion into this discussion, but THIS concept interests
> me...  But if I understand this, then when you setuid a program you cause
> this program to run with root permisions even though invoked by regular
> user... You said you can't suid a bash script, but can suid a c wrapper that
> calls the script. By this I gather that the said user id of that wrapper
> would also apply to child processes of the setuid'd wrapper...

> So I'm wondering, can root setuid a wrapper, and then use normal group
> permision settings on the wrapper itself to controll who can run the setuid
> wrapper????

yes.  i think `sudo' is a such a wrapper and it's already made for you.

-- 
                                           J o h a n  K u l l s t a m
                                           [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
                                              Don't Fear the Penguin!

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lynn Winebarger)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Public license question
Date: 16 Mar 1999 23:04:40 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Hasler  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Stephan Schulz writes:
>> Copyright, despite its name, does _not_ cover copying only.
>
>In the US it does.
>
>> It also gives other rights to the holder, e.g. the right to "maintainance
>> of artistical integrity"
>
>Yes, many jurisdictions restrict the authors rights in various ways under
>the guise of "guaranteeing rights".  IIRC the US copyright law denies an
>author the right to contract to keep the fact of his authorship secret.
>
   Europe as a whole is under a different regime when it comes to civil
matters.  I believe, in fact, it's called a "civil law regime".  I can't
remember what the US's system is called, but it's on different footing.
 
   BTW, there are other rights in the US besides copying, including
right to display, right to performance, and a couple of others.  But
they're not nearly so sweeping as the European law, which does protect
things like "artistic integrity."  There's some notion of "moral rights"
to the work - god only knows why.

Lynn

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (k.-h.herrmann)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: cpu has "F0 0F" bug?
Date: 17 Mar 1999 16:53:33 +0100

[EMAIL PROTECTED] () writes:

> Under what conditions is this bug triggered?  Wouldn't have already been
> triggered if Microsoft hadn't have implemented a fix?  Or is it one of
> those "sparratic" things that happens?

I don't know the complete command (it's four bytes long, the first two
are f0 0f).  Point is: The instruction is illegal and doesn't make any
sense.  

But: Anybody who knows this could write a mini program with these four
bytes in a data word and then jump there -> Prozessor ist standing and
waiting for reboot.

K.-H.

-- 
===================================
Karl-Heinz Herrmann
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
===================================

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From: "HECC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Red Hat 5.2 + MS Proxy
Date: 17 Mar 1999 16:02:12 GMT

Depends on what you want to do. Netscape 4.0x, which is shipped with your
RedHat version allows you to set the right settings directly.

For all your other Internet-applications it might be more difficult, but I
expect you can set your socks-proxy to allow all other ip-port requests.

Gtz, HECC


>I have MS Proxy Server installed on Windows NT,


>wondering if anyone had any ideas on how I can get the internet on my
>linux box



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From: Eddy Ferguson <"eddyf<spam><sucks>"@cs.utexas.edu>
Subject: Re: Opinions Needed for New App Planning
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 09:00:04 -0600

This is very helpful so far.  Anyone else???

:)

-Eddy

jik- wrote:
> 
> Would Java cause you, as a Linux
> > user, to shy away?
> 
> I for one would likely not even try it if it was written in Java.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael D. Knight)
Subject: Re: Celeron 300 MHz or PII 266 MHz
Date: 17 Mar 1999 07:55:19 -0500

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
writes:

>What are your opinions of the Celeron 300 MHz vs a
>Mobile PII 266 MHz processor for running Linux on
>a notebook? The Celeron can be overclocked to 450 MHz,
>can the PII also be overclocked? Any comments?

A couple of comments actually.....

I am currently running a Celeron 300A on an Asus P2B motherboard.  It
was very easy to overclock...simply had to change a single jumper and
reboot.  I've been very happy with this, although I am considering
going for a dual PII motherboard and installing two Celeron 300A's
overclocked to 450MHz.

For information on overclocking a Celeron 300A to 450MHz, see
www.tomshardware.com or any number of other sites which I'm sure will
tell you how to do it.  Based on the info at tomshardware and on the
advice from a friend who works at Intel, I chose the Celeron over the
PII.

To answer your second question.......

It is probably possible to overclock a PII, however, the main reason
it is so easy to significantly overclock a Celeron is because the
Celerons run at a lower core voltage, thus heat is not nearly as much
of a problem.

Hope that helps.

-Michael
-- 
COMBAT AIRCRAFT: A mix    Michael David Knight           F-4    |  Phantom II
of sharp teeth, cold      Gulfstream Aerospace                 /O\        
steel, cosmic warlords,   Georgia Tech Aerospace     \_______[|(.)|]_______/   
and evil spirits          mknight2@*spam*worldnet.att.net  ++   O   ++   o    

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From: Harry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is Red Hat 5.2 worth fifty notes?
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 11:26:55 -0500

> Trying to explain that our entire network runs off free software <

Thanks for your thoughts. Interestingly, we have some Macs in the 
office with in-house Hypercard apps. Hypercard is no longer bundled 
with the Mac, and we recently had to purchase boxed copies to comply
with the new licence. Interestingly, the apps won't (I hear) run on 
the new version of Hypercard, so the celphane stays on the box, 
which is just to wave in front of the accountants.

It's a funny old world!

Harry

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From: Harry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How many $$$ does Linux save?
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 11:22:47 -0500

> I'm just trying to understand approximately how much I'd save 
using Linux <

Depends ... in what capacity do you plan to use Linux? If you're 
replacing, say, a bog-standard Solaris or NT HTTP server with a 
Linux one, the savings can be substantial. If you're replacing a 
Solaris workstation with a Linux one, the migration may not even be 
feasible. Remember that the cost of the licence is just one part of 
the cost of ownership.

Harry

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Richard Vu)
Subject: NetZero and Linux
Date: 14 Mar 1999 08:20:31 GMT

Has anyone been able to get internet access from NetZero (www.netzero.com
for more info) and be in their linux box at the same time?  I'm thinking
you need to run Wine or some other windows emulator to have this working.
I'd like to know what people have tried out there.

John

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