Linux-Misc Digest #488, Volume #21 Sat, 21 Aug 99 11:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: *nix vs. MS security (Richard Steiner)
Re: Oracle 8i for Linux (Peter Caron)
Re: DFW area Linux User Groups?? ("William B. Cattell")
Soundcard gives PRRRRRRRRR, and I don't want that. (Jordi Backx)
Re: helping the Third World (MK)
Help! cfdisk messed up partition table ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
reading file on Win98 part. (downtown)
Re: WordPerfect on 24 bit visual? (Jordi Backx)
Re: adobe software (Uwe Bonnes)
Re: Linux file-size limit? (Jon Bloom)
Re: reading file on Win98 part. ("Jamie Putnam")
Re: pppd in 'setuid-root' mode (Clifford Kite)
Re: ICQ?? (Daniel =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ved=F8y?=)
Re: passwd sucks, how do I get around it? (John)
Re: getting sblive to work in kernel 2.2.7? (LhD Administrator)
freezing (Frances Nicholson)
Re: adobe software (Coy A Hile)
The definitive linux news and information portal (dan braun)
Disable module's autoclean feature? (-ljl-)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: *nix vs. MS security
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 02:18:17 -0500
Here in comp.os.linux.security, "Christopher Lu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
spake unto us, saying:
>I'm taking a class on operating systems. During the last class, the
>instructor mentioned that *nices are less reliable and less secure than
>Microsoft OS's. His reasoning is that because *nices (espeically linux)
>is free and everyone has access to it, it's less secure.
Strange reasoning, since most commercial Unix flavors (Solaris, AIX,
UnixWare, etc.) are just as proprietary (at least in terms of source
availability) as Windows NT is.
I work for a major airline. The "serious enterprise server" stuff is
all running on IBM-compatible mainframe hardware or Unisys 2200-series
mainframe hardware. Smaller database and mail/news servers are Solaris
or AIX boxes. PC file servers are using Novell. We don't use NT as a
server at all (at least to my knowledge) except for a couple of WinDD
servers which are intended to serve Windows software.
To be kind, your instructor may not be as aware of the business world
(and what we actually use) as he thinks he is.
--
-Rich Steiner >>>---> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>---> Bloomington, MN
OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS
+ VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
New Op Code: RD (Rewind Disk)
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From: Peter Caron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Oracle 8i for Linux
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 13:11:35 +0200
I hope that I am not stating something obvious, but have you defined
LD_LIBRARY_PATH in your profile? It should point to the $ORACLE_HOME/lib at a very
minimum.
Peter CARON
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hwei Sheng TEOH wrote:
> On 18 Aug 1999, Doug DeJulio wrote:
>
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > Hwei Sheng TEOH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >sqlplus: error in loading shared libraries:
> > > /mnt/2/oracle/base/home/lib/libclntsh.so.8.0: undefined symbol: nauzaoss
> > >
> > >What am I doing wrong??
> >
> > Well, my RedHat 6.0 system doesn't seem to define that symbol in any
> > library I can find.
> >
> > So, I'm guessing that Oracle8i includes shared libraries, and the
> > Oracle installer knows how to add them to the LD load path on a RedHat
> > system, but doesn't know how to do so on a non-RedHat system.
> >
> > Look for various ".so" files that were created as part of the Oracle
> > install, and add them to "/etc/ld.so.conf" and re-run "ldconfig". If
> > that fixes the problem, then it looks like my guess was right.
> [snip]
>
> Hmm, I still have the same problem, after added my Oracle lib/ directory to
> /etc/ld.so.conf. However, I noticed that some of the library files there seems
> to have size 0??? Could this be an installation problem then?
> Also, 'nm' complains that some .so files have no symbols... is there a way to
> check whether the library files are correctly installed? (other than
> reinstalling the whole thing, which I loathe to do because the Java installer
> hogs so much system resource).
>
> T
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From: "William B. Cattell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: DFW area Linux User Groups??
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 08:13:59 GMT
Harold Stevens ** PLEASE SEE SIG ** wrote:
>
> http://www.ntlug.org/
>
> Regards, Weird (Harold Stevens) ** IMPORTANT EMAIL INFO **
>
> 1. As antispam, I have completely disabled my "adam" email account.
> 2. Please vent inconvenience at Cyberpromo and their Satanic spawn.
> 3. Please look for (wyrd) at raytheon, dotted with com. NO UCE/UBE.
> 4. I detest UCE/UBE. I support CAUCE; http://www.cauce.org HR 1748.
>
> Standard Disclaimer: My opinions, and not Raytheon Systems Company.
Harold & Chris - thanks. See you Sat. (today)
Bill
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From: Jordi Backx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Soundcard gives PRRRRRRRRR, and I don't want that.
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 10:21:35 +0200
I have an ESS1869 sound card on my Compaq Presario 300 MHz.
I run Win95 and Caldera openLinux with kernel 2.2.5 on it.
I want sound on Linux just as on Win95.
Win95 says the board is on IRQ 5, I/O 220, DMA 1 and 3. The FM synth
is on I/O 388 and MIDI on I/O 330.
I set up the uart401, sb, mpu401, v_midi and opl3 modules (also
sound (low/core)) just as the ESS docs that ship with Linux say and with
the settings from Win95.
Well, it works, yahoo. WAV, MIDI, AU. The card sings and Biff can bark.
The problem is that since the card works I hear a constant resonant
sound coming from my speakers; a sort of soft 'prrrrr'.
It gets a bit louder when I move the mouse and when the harddisk is
working.
It's REALLY annoying me. Can anyone help???
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (MK)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: helping the Third World
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 11:12:48 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 21 Aug 1999 01:46:55 -0400 (EDT), "Gabriel"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>Marx
>>>saw the problem but was wrong about the solution. I think he deserves
>>>some credit.
>>
>>Marx deserves no credit whatsoever. He created belief system
>>consistent and closed philosophically. Aka religion.
>>
>This is what philosophers did those days, you know, and
>very few people succeed
>in creating anything let alone "a consistent and closed
>belief system."
Strange. And I thought that Marx lived after Aristotle, Plato,
Descartes, Hobbes, Hume and Locke. As well as after people who created
lots of religious systems. Strange.
>by your own standards Marx must be one of the most
>intelligent persons
>ever.
There are intelligent murderers, too. Should I admire
them?
One of basic problems with Marx is that he demanded
science that is "critically involved" as opposed to
plain explaining. This was plain, simple intellectual
scam.
>Which he was even though his philosophy is not really
>consistent as
>you claim.
It is consistent in general: concentration of wealth -> impoverishment
of masses -> inevitable revolution -> classless society.
This is freaking nonsense. Childlishly naive determinism and
using definitions as explanations. Intellectual amateurship.
>you however must be a real bigot ( and not very
>intelligent
>either ) if you can't
>appreciate someone's towering intellect just because you
>don't agree
>with him.
I see no connection. Why should I be bigot because
I supposedly do not appreciate someone's intellect?
The determinant for being bigot or not is different.
>Though not agreeing with someone you haven't read is a
>little like
>using uninitialized variables ( an analogy just for a
>semblance of relevance)
I've had more exposure to Marx than I'd wished to.
Marcin Krol
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Help! cfdisk messed up partition table
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 10:53:44 GMT
Hi all,
When writing a new partition using cfdisk, I got a "Fatal error..."
and was not able to use either cfdisk or fdisk to that disk. Though
the existing partitions are still there and can boot linux, starting
cfdisk -z /dev/hdb (the messed up disk) shows the whole disk almost
totally empty (one big chunk).
Would appreciate suggestions that could rescue the partition
table (I know, that I should write down the table before writing,
sigh; and should do this in single user mode, ...) but the question
now is how to get the table back.
Thanks in advance.
Pinwu
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From: downtown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: reading file on Win98 part.
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 07:34:57 -0400
I just downloaded the 2.2.11 kernel. However I had to download it via
Win98 because I have no Linux Internet connection yet. How can I get to
the Win98 partition through Linux to copy the file to a Linux partition?
Any help would be appreciated.
Tom Brown
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From: Jordi Backx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WordPerfect on 24 bit visual?
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 10:05:04 +0200
>
Caldera told me it's a WP bug. That's all I know. I had the same problem with my
ATI LT Rage.
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From: Uwe Bonnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: adobe software
Date: 21 Aug 1999 10:44:12 GMT
Gerald Willmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Most of us have Adobe's Acrobat Reader installed but have you ever noticed
: that (at least to the best of my knowledge) Adobe offers none of their
: other programs for linux. Would be a simple matter of compiling it for us
: and rumor has it that they have done so internally but ...? Strange that
: a company that boasts "cross platform" in their PDF ads does not offer a
: way to produce such files (I'm especially after distiller) for the most
: rapidly growing platform. If you feel the same and can spare a minute
: please fill out the feature request form on their website (www.adobe.com
: -> send feed back). I have done so but so far no reply.
: thanks, Gerald
Also Acrobat Reader 4.0 still does not offer the search facility for Linux
:-(
Bye
--
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Institut fuer Kernphysik Schlossgartenstrasse 9 64289 Darmstadt
========= Tel. 06151 162516 ======== Fax. 06151 164321 ==========
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From: Jon Bloom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Linux file-size limit?
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 08:20:46 -0400
Christopher Browne wrote:
>
> On Tue, 17 Aug 1999 16:54:55 -0600, John Thompson
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Rather than backing up to another partition, you can backup
> >to a device that does not use a filesystem; eg, a tape
> >drive. Tar can handle multi-gigabyte archives on a tape
> >drive without size limitation problems beyond the physical
> >limitations of the media used.
>
> Have you tried this so as to verify the veracity of this claim?
>
> The *true* problem is that the data structure used to hold the pointer
> that indicates how far into an input stream you are is only 32 bits.
Which is important only if you need to keep such a pointer. Why would
tar need that? If it's counting anything, it would be blocks, which are
usually 10k or more in size.
Anyway, I've had no trouble using cpio to write and read a 4-GB archive
on tape. I imagine tar would be similar.
Jon
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From: "Jamie Putnam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: reading file on Win98 part.
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 08:23:47 -0400
Mount the partition and copy via cp linux-2.2.x.tar.gz | /usr/src to the
source
directory /usr/src READ the documentation. You may as well upgrade
to patch-2.5 as well at this time.
If you can't mount the partition type 'mount' and it will help you or 'man
mount'
You may wish to edit /etc/services before you connect with ppp
downtown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I just downloaded the 2.2.11 kernel. However I had to download it via
> Win98 because I have no Linux Internet connection yet. How can I get to
> the Win98 partition through Linux to copy the file to a Linux partition?
> Any help would be appreciated.
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From: kite@NoSpam.%inetport.com (Clifford Kite)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: pppd in 'setuid-root' mode
Date: 21 Aug 1999 08:07:21 -0500
John Hasler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: None of the above. From the SETUP file in ppp-2.3.8:
: The recommended way to set up to dial an ISP is for the system
: administrator to create a file under /etc/ppp/peers, named for the ISP
: that you will be dialling. For example, suppose the file is called
Duh. What goes good with crow? You're right, this dial-up configuration
does not require user read/write permissions for the device file. My
only (weak) excuse is that this feature is unadvertised in the pppd
documentation. As you point out it also has the advantage over demand
that more than one dial-out connection can be configured.
Thanks for the new insight!
--
Clifford Kite <kite@inet%port.com> Not a guru. (tm)
/* Microsoft is a great marketing organization.
* It _has_ to be */
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From: Daniel =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ved=F8y?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: ICQ??
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 14:26:15 +0200
Christopher Lu wrote:
>
> Can someone please recommend a good icq program for Linux? I'm running
> Mandrake 6 and need for the program to be able to interact with
> mirabillis/aol windows icq (see/talk to windows icq).
>
> Thanks in advance!
Check gicq, or do a search for icq on freshmeat.net
Daniel Ved�y
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From: John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: passwd sucks, how do I get around it?
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 13:34:02 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I really hate the bullshit checking passwd does to make sure you
> enter a pass word it likes. How do I get that pig fucker to
> accept anything for a pass word? Don't give me any lecture about
> security either. I should have a choice. I can handle the risk.
> I also jump out of airplanes.
Just enter a blank password then it wont ask for a password at all.
You can also edit /etc/shadow and remove the password.
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From: LhD Administrator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: getting sblive to work in kernel 2.2.7?
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 13:30:53 GMT
Gaiko Kyofusho wrote:
> live working on my computer and having little sucess. I got the module
> from the soundblaster developers site and tried using thier script of
> course getting the message that my kernel is too "new" (need 2.0.36 <i
> think> or 2.2.5-10). I have only a vauge understnading of how to use
You might try the "insmod" "-f" option. In general, "man insmod" should
be most helpful. http://lhd.datapower.com/db/dispproduct.cgi?DISP?315 has
a little info, but probably won't be of much help -- other than to confirm
that others have used SB Live with Linux successfully.
LhD Administrator
LhD: Linux Hardware Database
http://lhd.datapower.com
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From: Frances Nicholson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: freezing
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 13:48:21 GMT
Hi, I installed Mandrake 6 on my small pentium s machine, and find that
when I am logged in as root, the machine freezes when I attempted to
open any application. etc. I am using KDE as well. It works okay when I
am user. any suggestion. Thanks. Frances Nicholson
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Coy A Hile)
Subject: Re: adobe software
Date: 21 Aug 1999 10:38:47 -0400
In article <7plvts$bkh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Uwe Bonnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Gerald Willmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>: Most of us have Adobe's Acrobat Reader installed but have you ever noticed
>: that (at least to the best of my knowledge) Adobe offers none of their
>: other programs for linux. Would be a simple matter of compiling it for us
>: and rumor has it that they have done so internally but ...? Strange that
>: a company that boasts "cross platform" in their PDF ads does not offer a
>: way to produce such files (I'm especially after distiller) for the most
>: rapidly growing platform. If you feel the same and can spare a minute
>: please fill out the feature request form on their website (www.adobe.com
>: -> send feed back). I have done so but so far no reply.
>: thanks, Gerald
Actually, what do you need Distiller for. Most of the stuff you are
creating generates PostScript, or at least should. If you actually *need*
pdf, i.e. sending info to winblows ppl who don't know what postscript is,
just use ps2pdf that comes with TeX, and i think also the groff
distribution.
HTH
Coy
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Coy Hile
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Theirs not to reason why; theirs but to do...."
Tennyson, "Charge of the Light Brigade"
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From: dan braun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: The definitive linux news and information portal
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 10:23:39 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: -ljl- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Disable module's autoclean feature?
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 14:51:31 GMT
As stated in the subject, can it be done? Is there
a compile time option to eliminate this feature?
One of my modules needs to be manually loaded/unloaded,
otherwise it is a PITA.
TIA.
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