Linux-Misc Digest #579, Volume #19               Tue, 23 Mar 99 17:13:13 EST

Contents:
  Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the Linux-equivalents 
for these Windoze programs? (adept)
  Re: Slow system (David Kirkpatrick)
  Web Mail Program Wanted ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: IP Masq on a Mac PPC ("Richard S. Lumpkin")
  Re: Fortran on Linux (f2c): NARG() and GETARG() ("Oliver D. Bedford")
  Re: RPM, where to get? (Bob Tennent)
  how do I add packages after installation? ("yft")
  Re: Detecting overrun,frame,parity errors (Tony R. Bennett)
  Help with Canon BJC-4300 (Garrett Mickelson)
  Re: cannot boot from scsi drive ("Fr�d�ric Hoerni")
  Re: Fortran on Linux (f2c): NARG() and GETARG() (Hans Koch)
  MS IE (UNIX) on Linux? ("Morten Liebach")
  view postscript format file (Ying Hu)
  Re: X session via telnet? (Erhard Siegl)
  Re: IE5 under Linux (John Thompson)
  Re: Hard drive space? (Matthew Bafford)
  Re: Email-only terminal accounts (Matthew Bafford)
  Re: SANE is Making Me In---- (zentara)
  Re: Netscape & Freezing (zentara)
  Re: xanim troubles (zentara)
  Ethernet Drvice Trouble (Matthew Jochum)
  Ensoniq Soundscape PnP card (Edward A. Baron)
  Documentation question.... ("Nevermind")
  Re: Enough!! What is the best Linux to install? ("Bud Z")
  Re: Windowmaker- silly question ? (Len Cuff)
  Re: Step on the Gnome? (Matthias Warkus)
  Re: How can root get Permission Denied? (Thomas Zajic)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (adept)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the 
Linux-equivalents for these Windoze programs?
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 19:40:16 GMT

I realize this is herasy (sp?) to say on the linux newsgroup.  But
MSDEV is one of the best compilers / debuggers I have ever used.
After using it for a while you realize how bad most everything else
is.  I program on linux / X etc. quite a bit, but nothing is as easy
as using msdev on winbloze for programming.


On Mon, 22 Mar 1999 18:56:02 -0500, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>On Mon, 22 Mar 1999, adept wrote:
>
>> I gotta agree with you %100.  I had to write some library software on
>> a Mac a year ago and it was like pulling teeth.  The OS is clunky and
>> crashes almost all the time.  A day didn't go by that I didn't crash
>
>What version were you using? "A year ago" is a long time for the Mac OS.
>
>> it out at least 5 times or so.  Mac users have grown accustomed to
>> this and don't seem to find it a bother.  
>
>No, we didn't like it either but we had to live with it until 7.6 and 8.x
>came along. Now things are very stable again.
>
>> The compiler software that I
>> had to use (metrowerks) was also a huge piece of junk.  Every mac
>> programmer I talked to swears by it though.  I've used compilers on
>> linux, windows 95/98/nt, old appleII's, etc... and I can tell you
>> without a doubt metrowerks code warrior is the worst compiler i've had
>> to use in AGES.  I shudder at the thought of ever having to do
>> anything on the mac ever again.
>
>And what exactly did you not like about CodeWarrior? I must admit that I
>haven't used any of the more recent versions going back about 3 years or
>so but I didn't think it was all that bad.
>
>I hate to tell you this but "X sucks" and "X is the worst thing I've ever
>used" are neither convincing arguments nor constructive criticism.
>
>____________________________________________________________________________
>                                  |
>"A little nonsense now and then,  |  "If it walks out of the fridge, let
> Is relished by the wisest men."  |     it go"  -- John Dougherty
>                           --W.W. |  "If it loves you it will come back."
>                                  |             -- Ian Davis
>__________________________________|_________________________________________
>Theta Xi 
>
>Kappa Sigma
>

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From: David Kirkpatrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Slow system
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 14:39:45 +0000

Mike,
   People cannot really help you without guessing.  What is your
complete setup and what are you running when this happens?
d

MIBO wrote:
> 
> I have just installed LINUX and most of it seem to run quite well.
> However, I have been told that the system would be as fast or faster
> than Windows 95 (on the same PC). ALthough I accept that starting up may
> take a little longer than windows, I was surprised that any program
> would take much more time than expected. Netscape would e.g. take as
> long as 1 minute and StarOffice 5 nearly two.
> During loading the program, the HD is making noises like an old coffee
> grinder. I checked the memory usage, which showed that most of the 40MB
> is allocated to 'shared'. The 100 MB of swap is nearly unused (result of
> 'free' command).
> 
> What could be the problem? Or do I just have to accept that with LINUX
> the days are shorter than with Windows?
> 
> Mike Bosschaert

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Web Mail Program Wanted
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 19:55:13 GMT

I am looking for a web mail program to run as a intranet mail service.
Something like hotmail or yahoo mail.  If anybody has any info about this
please let me know.

wes

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From: "Richard S. Lumpkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc
Subject: Re: IP Masq on a Mac PPC
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 16:42:23 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Levi C. Maaia wrote:
> 
> I'm attempting to recompile my kernel for IP Masq. support on my PowerPC
> 601.  After configuring the source code I 'make zImage'  all proceedes
> for about 5 min. until this message appears bringing me back to the bash
> prompt:
> 
> make[2]: *** [ksyms.o] Error 1
> make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/kernel'
> make[1]: *** [first_rule] Error 2
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/kernel'
> make: *** [_dir_kernel] Error 2
> 

Just for my own entertainment I tried to compile a kernel under mkLinux
and I seem to recall it worked (this was about 5 months ago).  The
problem is mkLinux does not use the normal Linux kernel tree, the
mkLinux kernel is the CMU mach microkernel and Linux runs as an
application on top of it.  The upshot is you'll have to  seek yoiu
answers from the mach kernel hackers since ip-masq will have to run in
the "Linux application" that is written to run on the mach kernel.  A
possible source of wisdom may be found at:

http://globegate.utm.edu/resources/#mklinux
========================================================================
Richard S. Lumpkin, Ph.D.                            Associate Professor
Department of Chemistry                                     256-890-6365
University of Alabama in Huntsville                     fax 256-890-6349
Huntsville, AL 35899                          http://chromophore.uah.edu

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From: "Oliver D. Bedford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.fortran
Subject: Re: Fortran on Linux (f2c): NARG() and GETARG()
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 18:48:24 +0100

Guus Zijlstra wrote:
> 
> I'm porting some fortran programs to linux, using f2c
> to convert to the fortran sources to C.
> My problem is that the fortran sources rely on microsoft
> extensions.
> 
> Most extensions, like GETDAT() are easily handled
> through f2c.h, but NARGS() and GETARG() are
> more difficult.

  I was able to compile a fortran program which includes a

call getarg(i,infile)

so, in principle, it should work.

  I know, not much of a help, but I don�t do fortran.

  Oliver

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From: r d t@c s.q u e e n s u.c a (Bob Tennent)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: RPM, where to get?
Date: 23 Mar 1999 15:54:56 GMT

On Tue, 23 Mar 1999 07:06:44 -0700, Walter L. Williams wrote:

 >> But why do you think you need that particular version of rpm?
 >> I'm currently using rpm-2.5.6-5.2 and upgraded my kernel with it.
 >>
 >In the "Changes" file included with the 2.2.3 source lists a
 >group of files that I will need to obtain to properly update
 >my system. Amoung the things listed is a new version of the
 >RPM package. Being I have'nt done an actual kernel update
 >this way before, I figured I needed to follow the instructions
 >to the letter. I am now wondering how many of these packages
 >I actually need to get.
 >
You probably should upgrade rpm, but not to that particular
version, which hasn't been "new" for years.  Get a recent version 
from any redhat mirror, but avoid the 2.9 versions which are
still under development. 

Bob T.



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From: "yft" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: how do I add packages after installation?
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 20:40:37 -0000

Hi

Can someone tell me how I can add packages that were initially left out
during installation? I left out some of the development packages by mistake.
I'm using RH Linux 5.2.

Thanks in advance.

Jon



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tony R. Bennett)
Subject: Re: Detecting overrun,frame,parity errors
Date: 23 Mar 1999 08:48:53 -0800

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Dean  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>How can I detect inside C program if there's been an overrun,
>frame, parity or break error??
>
>Thanks
>Dean

Not sure on Linux...But on this is how it's done on aix:

    check out 'man termio' and look at IGNBRK, BRKINT, IGNPAR, and PARMRK.

Tony

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From: Garrett Mickelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help with Canon BJC-4300
Date: 23 Mar 1999 20:45:52 GMT

I can't seem to get my printer to work in Netscape. I have yet to
install WP8 and try there, but if there is an easy solution, please
email me.

I'm running:

RH 5.2, KDE 1.1, Kernel 2.2.3, on a 333 Celeron w/ 128MB ram. I also
have a parallel port ZIP, old style ppa.

Printer works fine in Kedit, except I need to hit the resume button at
the end of a print job.

Thanks for your help

Garrett Mickelson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




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From: "Fr�d�ric Hoerni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: cannot boot from scsi drive
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 17:22:03 +0100

I forgot to say I have a Jaz Jet SCSI controller

Fr�d�ric Hoerni a �crit dans le message <7d7nqd$630$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>hello,
>I installed Linux Red Hat 5.2 on my SCSI Iomega 2 GB jaz drive.
>I tried configuring the BIOS to boot first from SCSI, then A and C,
>but it does not work. I have to use a floppy disk to boot linux from my
SCSI
>drive.
>Do you have any idea why ?
>
>Thanks
>Fred ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>
>
>



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From: Hans Koch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.fortran
Subject: Re: Fortran on Linux (f2c): NARG() and GETARG()
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 13:51:29 -0600

> I'm porting some fortran programs to linux, using f2c
> to convert to the fortran sources to C.
> ...

You could also port them to linux without converting to C.
In any case, you might find some useful links at
http://studbolt.physast.uga.edu/templon/fortran.html

Hans



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From: "Morten Liebach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: MS IE (UNIX) on Linux?
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 18:02:36 +0100

I've just seen that you can get Internet Explorer 5.0 for UNIX (HP & Solaris
as I recall), and I thought that it might be able to run under Linux.
Has anyone tried, or does anyone have any idea if it would work?

With Thanks          Morten Liebach       [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: Ying Hu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: view postscript format file
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 15:51:38 -0500

Hi:

I am sure that the postscrit format can be viewed in Linux,
but I did not know what script with the function, such as
gs, ghostview or xv in Unix. In other words, I can not find
gs, ghostview or xv in our Linux.

Help please! Thanx!

Ying


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From: Erhard Siegl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: X session via telnet?
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 19:04:05 +0100

On Mon, 22 Mar 1999, Christopher Michael Jones wrote:
>Check out, I don't know if it works, but it looks good,
>and it's free
>
>"http://www.microimages.com/freestuf/mix/"
(X-Server for Win95, Win98 and WinNT)

I tried it under Win98 and its really cool. It places the
windows directly onto the desktop. You work as if you 
were on the Unix-workstation, except that you have the
Win98 desktop.
I tried it under Win95, where it opened a big window,
and placed the Unix-windows (xterm,..) into this big
window. Had some problem with gimp, but I didn't
look further on this. I don't know why it behaves differently 
on the Win95 and Win98.

Erhard

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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: IE5 under Linux
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 10:22:43 -0600

BachuZ wrote:

> Pretty soon Opera will be out for Linux... no crashes, tiny program...
> 
> I think it is way better then M$ exploder or Nscape. Just have a try
> when it comes out

I tried Opera a while back.  It was OK, but nothing
special.  IIRC, it didn't support Java or plugins (maybe
that's changed now) and I decided if/when I want pretty
pictures and all the other bells and whistles I'll use
Netscape and for quick-n-dirty text access I'll use lynx. 
Opera just seemed superfluous.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthew Bafford)
Subject: Re: Hard drive space?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 21:05:16 GMT

Tue, 23 Mar 1999 18:40:01 +0000 -- Paul Richards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
-> How do I see how much space there is on a HD or partition?

man df

--Matthew

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthew Bafford)
Subject: Re: Email-only terminal accounts
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 21:05:17 GMT

Tue, 23 Mar 1999 20:23:55 GMT -- Eric Rossing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
-> What is the best way to set up a user so he is automatically put into a
-> mailreader (eg. elm) when he logs in, and is automatically logged off when
-> he exits that program?

Edit /etc/passwd and change the person's shell from /bin/bash (or whatever) to
/usr/bin/mutt (or whatever).

-> Thanks!

HTH!

--Matthew

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (zentara)
Subject: Re: SANE is Making Me In----
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 17:28:49 GMT
Reply-To: ""

On Tue, 23 Mar 1999 01:54:03 +0000, Al Tourlakes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>Okay. I'm sitting here with my Linux box, RedHat 5.1, kernel 2.2.3 with
>generic SCSI compiled in. Also sitting here with my HP Scanjet 3C
>scanner. And with the SANE program rpm'ed into the system. Have read
>everything from SANE and about SANE.
>Could someone tell me, in dumbed-down terms, exactly what I should do
>next in order to embark on the road to sane use of SANE.? I simply
>cannot figure out what the hell the SANE documentation is talking about
>as far as configuring and setting  up. If you're willing, tell me the
>first several things I must do, in terms a relative newcomer might
>understand. (I only have about three months of Linux hell under my
>belt.)

OK, I use Sane under Suse6, and it works fine. There are
a few things that you need to do.

1. Determine which generic scsi device is assigned to
the scanner at boot time. You can see these in /var/log/boot.msg
or at boot time. This will be either sga - sgd or sg0  - sg4.

2. Say it comes up with scanner is found at sgb, then you are
using sg1. If it's sga, then you are on sg0. Get the relationship?

3. Now do 
 ln -s /dev/sg1 /dev/scanner
this creates the symbolic link to the scanner

4. Then
chmod 777 /dev/sg1
this allows everyone to use it

5.Now setup Gimp to use it for importing.
cd $HOME/.gimp/plug-ins
ln -s /usr/X11R6/bin/xscanimage xscanimage

Redhat may have xscanimage somewhere else, so check the path.

Now you can run xscanimage from an xterm.
Or you can run Gimp, and acquire a scanner image






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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (zentara)
Subject: Re: Netscape & Freezing
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 17:28:38 GMT
Reply-To: ""

On Mon, 22 Mar 1999 23:06:42 +0100, Ansgar Radermacher
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>    Hello,
>
>I noticed a strange bug in netscape 4.0x and 4.50/4.51:
>
>Netscape freezes on some pages (e.g. http://www.freshmeat.net ), if
>JavaScript is enabled *and* automatic image loading disabled (which is
>quite annoying, because I usually have it disabled to reduce network
>traffic -- and save some time).

Well I must mention that I had all sorts of trouble with Netscape 4.5
under suse5.3.
Suse6 comes with the unsupported glibc version of 4.5, and it
runs fine. There is no problem at freshmeat with this version.




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (zentara)
Subject: Re: xanim troubles
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 17:28:44 GMT
Reply-To: ""

On Mon, 22 Mar 1999 16:41:14 -0600, Jesse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>I recently got the most recent version of xanim and the associated DLL's
>but I can't get it to work.  When I try to run it on a vid file I get
>the following message:
>
>XAnim Rev 2.80.0 by Mark Podlipec Copyright (C) 1991-1999. All Rights
>Reserved
>dlopen of /usr/local/xanim/mods/vid_iv41_1.0_linuxELFx86g21.xa failed:
>/usr/local/xanim/mods/vid_iv41_1.0_linuxELFx86g21.xa: undefined symbol:
>__bzero.
>
>I am running RH5.2 with the 2.2.1 kernel.
>
>The only other thing of note is that when I was trying to compile, it
>wouldn't find files in /usr/X11R6/include/X11/  such as Xos.h.
>I eventually just copied the relevant files into the source directory
>and things compiled okay.
>
>Can anyone give me a suggestion on how to fix this?

You have to edit the makefile. Find the area where it defines
the library locations. It gives a couple of lines of instruction
on how to find the libraries. Then you need to define the
library directory and the one above it.



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From: Matthew Jochum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Ethernet Drvice Trouble
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 13:49:18 -0500

Hi,
    I'm running RedHat 5.2 on a Gateway P166, with a 3COM
etherlink III adapter.
When I install Linux the network sets up fine.  However,
with in 24 hours of configuring the
NIS the eth0 device file dissapears.  when I do an ifconfig,
it only shows the loopback device.
What is causing this, and how do I get my device back?
Also, there is a ifcfg-eth0 file in
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts.
And all the information in it is correct.

Thanks,
Matt

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Edward A. Baron)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linus.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Ensoniq Soundscape PnP card
Date: 23 Mar 1999 18:41:24 GMT

Does anyone have the above card configured for sound under Red Hat
5.2 (2.0.35 kernel)?

I'm pretty sure the pnpdump config I have is correct
but to get my PnP modem to work I had to discover
magic using 

setserial

is there some similar magic I need to know about for the sound
card?

Thanks in advance, please email replies.

-ed baron

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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 16:28:06 -0500
From: "Nevermind" <oneway.com>
Subject: Documentation question....

I'm new to Linux and I want to get a some decent documentation on the ins
and outs of it.  Any recommendations.....???

I've installed RedHat 5.2 and the manual is more or less geared for the
installation only.

Thanks, and please reply to the post, not to me directly.





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From: "Bud Z" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.networking,alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: Enough!! What is the best Linux to install?
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 16:36:46 -0800

Thanks Lee ;-)

Bud Z
Lee Sharp wrote in message ...
>Bud Z wrote in message ...
>
>|I have read through these post's and still don't know which I should
>|install!!!
>|I am a Newbie, Home PC, used to using Win98 with a browser, e-mail,
backup,
>|cdrom, etc.
>|I'm just so tired of MS that I could scream!!! so I've ordered RH 5.2
after
>|doing a little research but there is so much out there that a guy just
>|doesn't know where to start.
>|I need suggestions for a "newbie, first time user, home pc".
>
>   Project Independence.  www.independence.seul.org  It is designed for the
>new user from another OS.  A lot more documentation laid out in a sensible
>way.  It is just as powerful as any other, but with a nicer delivery.  How
>is that...
>
>            Lee
>
>--
>SCSI is *NOT* magic. There are *fundamental technical reasons* why it is
>necessary to sacrifice a young goat to your SCSI chain now and then. *
>Black holes are where God divided by zero. - I am speaking as an
individual,
>not as a representative of any company, organization or other entity.  I am
>solely responsible for my words.
>
>
>
>



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From: Len Cuff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windowmaker- silly question ?
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 19:04:21 +0000
Reply-To: Len Cuff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
>Augusto Cardoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Augusto Cardoso) wrote:
>> 
>>>Len Cuff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I've got SuSE 6 installed and wmaker but when I try startx wmaker I get
>>>>the usual fvwm2 ! How do I get wmaker to work ?
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>        Len
>>>
>>>set the following variable:
>>>
>>>export WINDOWSMAGER=windowmaker
>>>
>>>you can either set it dynamically, for example based on a user choice, or
>>>in a config file running during login...
>>>you can of specify another windows manager (ex.kde, fvwm2, etc).
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Augusto
>> 
>> SORRY IT IS:
>> 
>> export WINDOWSMANAGER=windowmaker
>
>Actually, none of these methods will work out of the box on SuSE 6.0 - there
>is an embarrasing error in one of the scripts.
>
>Here's how it works: the script startx only starts windowmanagers found by
>the script wmlist, which checks a list against the contents of 
>/usr/X11R6/bin. This is the same list as you get in the YaST 'choose default
>windowmanager' dialog.
>
>The problem is that they are using the same wmlist script as in SuSE 5.3, when
>the version of windowmaker shipped was 0.14.?, and the binary exucutable was
>called 'windowmaker', not 'wmaker'.
>
>All you have to do is edit the word 'windowmaker' in the wmlist script to
>'wmaker'. You might also want to maker a link 'windowmaker' to the binary
>'wmaker' for the benefit of automatically updated windowmanagers - ie FVWM, so
>you can still use the 'switch to different windowmanager' option. That is what
>I do.
>
>If you are nervous about fiddling with scripts, try starting blackbox first, 
>then switching to Window Maker from there. Worked for me.
>
>Also note that if you upgraded from SuSE 5.3, and had the themes installed, 
>the global themes are now kept in a different directory 
>(/usr/X11R6/share/WindowMaker), so you'll have to move the files.
>
>
Severe,
        Many thanks for the information, I'll give it a try later
tonight.
Cheers,
        Len

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Subject: Re: Step on the Gnome?
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 18:22:41 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

It was the 23 Mar 1999 14:10:14 +0000...
..and Matthew Faupel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus) replied:
> 
> > Of course. The panel is just another Gnome application. If you choose
> > not to run it, well, more power to you - you don't need to.
> > 
> > Gnome is just a set of libraries. You don't need to have the panel
> > running to use them.
> 
> I tried (with the version of AfterStep shipped with RH5.2) and had at least
> the following problems before I gave up on it:
> 
>  - The menus generated by right click are completely different from those
>    got by pressing the GNOME button; I'd like them to be the same.

Of course; this happens because AfterStep handles those clicks, and as
long as it isn't Gnome compliant, the AfterStep root menu will have
got absolutely nothing to do with the Gnome menu.

>  - AfterStep added unwanted title bars to the icon that the graphical 
>    version of Midnight Commander puts on the desktop.

That's because it doesn't understand Gnome WM hints.

>  - I wanted the GNOME panel applets to run in the Wharf, not the Panel and
>    saw no obvious way of doing this.

This isn't possible. The applets interface heavily with the panel
using CORBA; as long as the AfterStep Wharf isn't Gnomified and
CORBAised, this won't work.

> So if anyone has actually got all this working for AfterStep or Window
> Maker, I'd be interested to hear.  Alternatively, is it possible to make
> Enlightenment and the GNOME panel look like AfterStep and the Wharf
> respectively?

With some GTK and Enlightenment theming, the "look" surely is
possible. But anyway, I think someone out there is writing a "Gnome
Dock". Keep your eyes open.

mawa
-- 
Tcl ist nicht als vollst�ndige Skript- oder Entwicklungssprache
entworfen worden (obwohl [dies] Leute nicht davon abgehalten hat,
50.000-Zeilen-Skripte zur Steuerung von Bohrinseln zu programmieren).
          -- Sriram Srinivasan, _Fortgeschrittene_Perl-Programmierung_

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From: Thomas Zajic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How can root get Permission Denied?
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 21:27:07 GMT

Geoff McCaughan wrote:
> I have a weird problem on my Redhat 5.2 system. When I try to install
> Wordperfect from the CDROM, I get "Permission Denied" even when I'm root.
> The install script is mode 775.
> I've tried it in a Redhat 5.0 system and it works there.

Heve a look at /etc/fstab and check whether the CD gets mounted with
either the "user" or "noexec" option. If it is "user", add "exec"; if
it is "noexec", remove it. If it is neither - no idea.

HTH,
Thomas
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